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DH Valencia: The Finalists Return

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July 18th, 2013 13:37 GMT
DH: VALENCIA

DreamHack:
Valencia 2013



Stardust
Another Fairy Tale?

Jaedong
1,272 days

Brackets and standings on Liquipedia

Read our Lucifron, YuGiOh, and JYP article for more previewy goodness!

The Finalists Return


Here's something that we don't see too often at a DreamHack: both finalists are coming back to compete at the next tournament! StarDust and Jaedong played one hell of a final back at June's DreamHack Summer, and now they're headed to Valencia to (hopefully) play some more awesome StarCraft. TeamLiquid takes a look at the last DreamHack's finalists ahead of the next tournament in Valencia.

StarDust: Another Fairy Tale?

by Monk

In one of the biggest surprises in StarCraft II history, (P)mYi.StarDust breezed his way to a championship at DreamHack Summer 2013. The stars aligned perfectly for Stardust, as his path to the finals was laden with almost exclusively with Korean Zergs and a scattering of weaker Terran and Protoss foreigners. StarDust's unique style in PvZ—his self-professed match-up—hinged on immortals, awkward timings, perfect force fields, and heavy mind games. This unorthodox style confounded the best Zergs DreamHack Summer had to offer in (Z)HyuN, (Z)viOLet, and (Z)Jaedong, opening the path for StarDust to claim the title against all odds. Here's a short breakdown of some of the elements that made StarDust's PvZ so effective.
  • Stalker-less immortal/zealot/sentry compositions
    Unlike stalkers, these units are very specialized and can deal especially well with Zerg's most basic units in roaches and zerglings.
  • Double forge upgrades
    Because the core of StarDust's armies was frequently zealots, his upgrades scaled especially well.
  • Awkward timings
    Because he used such a unique army composition, StarDust hit at timings that Zergs were unfamiliar with. For one example, StarDust often ignored getting gas at his natural in favor of a faster push, attacking with zealot heavy armies at unusual timings.
  • Endless, perfect force-fields
    StarDust liked to dump a lot of his excess gas into sentries, often having 10+ with his main force. On top of having a TON of forcefields, they were almost always perfect.
  • Posturing and mind games
    This is perhaps the core concept of StarDust's build. StarDust had many different timings he could hit after his opener, sometimes staying on two bases and making a massive gateway unit army and sometimes taking a quick third and delaying his attack. His opponents often guessed wrong, making units when they needed drones or drones when they needed units.

    One thing StarDust did beautifully was use pressure and fakes to force his opponents to make early lings and roaches, and then punish them for it several minutes later. He kept Zerg in a vicious cycle where they had to make even more roaches and lings to defend against a growing Protoss army instead of getting the drones and tech they needed. Once StarDust's immortal-sentry-zealot composition reached critical mass, he was able to easily run over a very inefficient Zerg army.

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StarDust is elated to win the first championship of his five year career.
His Zerg opponents tried to adapt on the fly at DreamHack, all with varying degrees of success. You could sense they were getting close to finding a solution toward the end, but Jaedong just couldn't close it out in game five of the grand final.
  • Mass spine crawler defense
    Instead of wasting minerals on zerglings that were going to get shredded by zealots and forcefields anyway, Jaedong made mass spines to survive a massive zealot-sentry-immortal timing in one of his games.
  • Hydralisks
    This seemed to work as long as the Zerg didn't overproduce roach/ling against StarDust's earlier timings, and then attacked Stardust before his deathball got too big. StarDust proved that his army composition could sometimes fight directly with maxed armies of roach/hydra, especially on narrow maps where his forcefields could clinically dissect ground based forces.
  • Mutalisks
    Like hydras, this was all about finding a timing to transition while not getting destroyed by zealot-sentry-immortal. Jaedong actually got the timings right in the grand final, only to lose to probes in a base trade he really, really should not have lost. In any case, it went to show that while StarDust's timings are tricky to figure out, they can be worked around.
  • Swarm hosts
    Another reaction that can theoretically work, but probably not on Whirlwind. When Jaedong tried to do so, StarDust just walked around the swarm hosts and won.


Interestingly enough, StarDust has a great opportunity to win yet another championship on the back of his PvZ. This Dreamhack sports almost the same lineup as the previous iteration, except it has even less notable Terran and Protoss players than DH: Summer.
  • Not-returning: (P)Squirtle, (P)NaNiwa, (T)TaeJa, (T)GuMiho, (T)Sting
  • Newcomers: (T)Center, (P)JYP

From StarDust's point of view, DreamHack Valencia is basically an easier version of DreamHack: Summer. The best players besides himself are mostly Zerg, the tournament is a bit Zerg heavy in general, and there are even less strong Terran and Protoss players to stand in his way.

The flip side of the coin is that StarDust's style is now much more exposed. With both Hyun and Jaedong losing to StarDust in the last tournament, they've surely analyzed their replays and now have a better understanding of how to deal with his unique and hard-to-decipher style. On the other hand, StarDust surely knows he's being examined under a microscope, and will surely have added new twists and turns to his style to keep it viable.

Jaedong: 1,272 Days

by Waxangel

It's been very clearly and very painfully demonstrated that (Z)Jaedong did not adjust well to StarCraft II. It's hard to blame Jaedong for it, considering that just about every facet of his professional life was turned upside down. He's on a team that has totally different priorities from any KeSPA team. He's in the position of being a challenger, not an established titan, for the first time since 2008. He wasn't even playing StarCraft II full-time for six months when HotS was released, forcing him to adapt yet again.

Unfortunately for Jaedong, his pesky rival Flash has decided to make him look bad in comparison by almost instantly (in StarCraft time) becoming a top tier player. Goddammit Flash, wasn't it enough to take three Brood War championships away from Jaedong in the game's final years?

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Every victory for Jaedong seems like a milestone.
Despite Jaedong's slow start, it's undeniable that he's been making progress. In fact, if Jaedong wasn't eternally saddled with this Flash comparison and had come into SC2 with anything resembling normal expectations, we'd be lauding him for the progress he has made. When you take into account that TLO and Grubby are praised for developing into fringe championship contenders over the course of two years, then shouldn't the player who in half the time, came within ONE MAP of winning DreamHack Summer get some credit?

Nope, not when your rival has been busy locking down the most wins in Proleague award and dragging his team to the playoffs. Being Flash's rival is a pretty raw deal, even when you're not actually playing him in a game.

There is one thing that Jaedong can do to keep this rivalry respectable, one achievement he can attain first, one way he can still one-up Flash: Win a major StarCraft II tournament. No, the HyperX Tournament doesn't count. I'm talking about tournaments that tens if not hundreds of thousands of people will watch and care about. Both players have come close, but they're still tied with silvers being their best result. Flash came up short against Life at MLG Dallas, while Jaedong conceded the DH: Summer title to Stardust.

So far, Evil Geniuses have done just about everything they can to help Jaedong reach this goal. They've sent him to nearly every major tournament possible since his signing, and he is inching closer and closer to winning a title. He placed top eight at MLG Anaheim, top four at DreamHack: Stockholm, and was one map away from winning DreamHack: Summer. Now, he's headed toward his fourth international tournament in as many months.

In each previous attempt, Protoss came between Jaedong and his goal of a championship. In Stockholm and Anaheim he was thwarted by housemate NaNiwa, while StarDust narrowly edged him out at DH Summer. While amusing at first, JvP became a less and less funny joke each time around (or more and more hilarious, if you're a Flash fan). JvP is a worthy successor to JYPvT and RyungvP from the WoL era, being an unusually awful match-up for a player who is otherwise rather good. While Jaedong seems to have the nuances of ZvZ and ZvT down, for some reason he can't seem to stop himself from running into horrible meatgrinder deathtraps in ZvP.

Yet, even JYP and Ryung eventually found ways to get over their single match-up troubles, and Jaedong is showing signs that he is slowly figuring out how to not be an atrocious ZvP player in tournaments. Even though he lost to NaNiwa at MLG, he also did beat Stats, one of KT Rolster's best players not named Flash. Even now, the badness of Jaedong's ZvP gets a bit exaggerated. He typically plays well for 95% of his games, but it's the 5% where he makes strange and incomprehensible decisions that holds him back. With a bit more improvement at ZvP, and perhaps slightly better bracket luck in avoiding Protoss opponents, the age of the Tyrant may very well return.

It's been 1,272 days since Jaedong won his last major championship. It's been 1,272 days since Jaedong could say he was better than Flash. In Valencia, Jaedong can start making up for lost time.

Writers: monk and Waxangel
Graphics: shiroiusagi.
Banner Photos: 7mk.
Editor: Waxangel.
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Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14460 Posts
July 18 2013 13:43 GMT
#2
I want Jaedong to win !
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danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
July 18 2013 13:47 GMT
#3
Jaedonggggggggggggggg!!!!

I was so sad when he lost in the finals last time. t.t

Please win this time! No pressure.
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Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
July 18 2013 14:05 GMT
#4
Let's go Jaedong! Let god take over your play once again!
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Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1850 Posts
July 18 2013 14:13 GMT
#5
Jaedong fighting!
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Soke
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United States790 Posts
July 18 2013 14:15 GMT
#6
I still want Stephano to win <3
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United States5049 Posts
July 18 2013 14:18 GMT
#7
The Dong is here to win
can i get my estro logo back pls
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United States911 Posts
July 18 2013 14:35 GMT
#8
JvP is still better then Light v Not Zerg. And I really like light lol.
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Australia54784 Posts
July 18 2013 14:48 GMT
#9
gogo lucifron!
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KhaliWear
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Canada159 Posts
July 18 2013 15:10 GMT
#10
dude still has yet to do his military service also...
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Profile Joined July 2011
United States632 Posts
July 18 2013 15:19 GMT
#11
Jaedong hwaitingggg from his stream he's been getting better and better vs P only a matter of time!
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baeric
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany649 Posts
July 18 2013 15:38 GMT
#12
That Jaedong writeup! Jesus I am hyped!
rastaban
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United States2294 Posts
July 18 2013 15:49 GMT
#13
I want JD to go far and win just for all the sick puns we can get! Knock it to them!
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Romania1222 Posts
July 18 2013 16:04 GMT
#14
HYPE!
Nuclease
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United States1049 Posts
July 18 2013 16:05 GMT
#15
It'll be like Noah's second flood if Jaedong doesn't make the finals from all the nerd tears that will be shed.

Including mine.
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Sweden1815 Posts
July 18 2013 16:09 GMT
#16
Stephano coming aswell! ^^
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Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
July 18 2013 16:16 GMT
#17
On July 19 2013 00:10 KhaliWear wrote:
dude still has yet to do his military service also...


Huh, I hadn't thought of that.
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BaRtHeN
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Czech Republic18 Posts
July 18 2013 16:23 GMT
#18
GOGO JD! Stephano vs JD finals pls!
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Profile Joined June 2013
Ireland619 Posts
July 18 2013 17:57 GMT
#19
Woah, bit harsh on the HyperX tournament don't you think?


Should be a great weekend in Valencia though, Stephano v Jaedong? I'd kill for that.
InfusedTT.DaZe
Profile Joined August 2010
Romania693 Posts
July 18 2013 18:24 GMT
#20
let's go stardust !
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PonceDeLEGABE
Profile Joined March 2011
United States117 Posts
July 18 2013 18:33 GMT
#21
Monk and Waxangel very good write up. The hype is eating throw me so much i can't wait. Jaedong hope you win this summers title in Valencia. Good luck to StarDust as well. GLHF
Ichabod
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1659 Posts
July 18 2013 18:35 GMT
#22
I wonder if Stardust will switch up his style or stick with what worked the last time. Zergs have been analyzing his strategy at ends by now.

Jaedong probably got a lot of ZvP practice in, hopefully it will show.
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5 Posts
July 18 2013 19:07 GMT
#23
THE DONG - awesomeness
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viermalvier
Profile Joined December 2009
Austria115 Posts
July 18 2013 19:17 GMT
#24
I love this pushing endings @news.
Hopefully JD can do it for real!

I wouldnt mind if we see the two finalists of Summer again playing for the Title (with the better end for JD ofc) . Since Stardust seems to be a real nice guy and he does (at least try to) Speak english very well.


GOGO JD
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Profile Joined June 2013
South Africa27 Posts
July 18 2013 19:17 GMT
#25
Jaedong
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Peru184 Posts
July 18 2013 19:25 GMT
#26
Im cheering for Jeadong
nothing special
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Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden135 Posts
July 18 2013 19:25 GMT
#27
Nerdchiiiillls ending Nice writeup
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2771 Posts
July 18 2013 19:41 GMT
#28
Come on Jaedong. You can do it!
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Macedonia563 Posts
July 18 2013 20:06 GMT
#29
If JD learns how to avoid Forcefields (paradoxically as it may sound) - he's probably gonna be the next DH winner..
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Chile167 Posts
July 18 2013 20:31 GMT
#30
Jaedong <3
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United States230 Posts
July 18 2013 20:47 GMT
#31
I heard, (dont quote me on this) that JD is only playing a couple of more tourneys? Do htis have something to do with the military service he needs to do?
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Neonico
Profile Joined May 2013
France24 Posts
July 18 2013 20:56 GMT
#32
More with the end of his EG contract and going back to Team8/Green Wings I guess
skylarr
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Canada209 Posts
July 18 2013 21:08 GMT
#33
On July 19 2013 00:10 KhaliWear wrote:
dude still has yet to do his military service also...

He's got tons of time. Nada is just now starting them at age of 28. You can even wait until you're 30 something. jaedong is only 23 right now
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
July 18 2013 21:09 GMT
#34
Go Jaedong!!!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
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South Africa3 Posts
July 18 2013 21:47 GMT
#35
DA PANDATANK!!!
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Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
July 18 2013 22:03 GMT
#36
Thanks for the write up. GO JAEDONG GO!
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United States10328 Posts
July 18 2013 22:53 GMT
#37
keke good article by wax

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Enemony
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Canada49 Posts
July 18 2013 22:55 GMT
#38
It's been 1,272 days since Jaedong won his last major championship. It's been 1,272 days since Jaedong could say he was better than Flash. In Valencia, Jaedong can start making up for lost time.


I really don't think him winning a Dreamhack would make him able to say he is better than Flash lol
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jinorazi
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Korea (South)4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-18 23:14:28
July 18 2013 23:13 GMT
#39
in all honesty sc2 made jaedong bad. everytime i see him try to control sc2 muta i fucking cringe so hard, its like watching a master dog trainer command a mentally and physically retarded border collie.
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Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3683 Posts
July 18 2013 23:14 GMT
#40
On July 19 2013 06:08 skylarr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2013 00:10 KhaliWear wrote:
dude still has yet to do his military service also...

He's got tons of time. Nada is just now starting them at age of 28. You can even wait until you're 30 something. jaedong is only 23 right now


Thank god for clearing that to everyone. Given our community the fact that somebody said he still has to do militray and another dude rumoring about jd doing it soon is just bs enough that it could start a shit storm. Jaedong isn't going anywhere, at most back to kespa where he belongs, deal with it.

Really hope he finally wins, I can feel the vsP T.T as well as that is also my worst matchup.
MaxField
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2386 Posts
July 18 2013 23:15 GMT
#41
Well after reading this, I dont think there are too many people who want JD to lose.
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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-18 23:17:35
July 18 2013 23:16 GMT
#42
So much hype for Jaedong - granted.
So much hype for Flash - not granted.
No hype for Innovation - what the fuck, I'm not used to that

A great writeup, though I do not like the Stardust hype. I'll bet a few bucks on him not winning that Dreamhack, dropping out before ro8.
Lobotomist
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1541 Posts
July 18 2013 23:19 GMT
#43
On July 19 2013 03:35 Ichabod wrote:
I wonder if Stardust will switch up his style or stick with what worked the last time. Zergs have been analyzing his strategy at ends by now.

Jaedong probably got a lot of ZvP practice in, hopefully it will show.
He certainly won't be able to ride it to victory like last time, bit I think posturing with the msc to force units from zerg is a tactic that's going to be incorporated into pvz more in the future, not less.
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Steel
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Japan2283 Posts
July 18 2013 23:27 GMT
#44
I really hope JD takes it actually I felt bad for him many tournaments in a row.
Try another route paperboy.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
July 18 2013 23:39 GMT
#45
JAEDONG

Nice writing Wax!
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CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
July 18 2013 23:46 GMT
#46
Hah, wouldn't mind jaedong to win after reading that.. should be interesting!
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Interstellar
Profile Joined May 2012
Mexico67 Posts
July 19 2013 00:03 GMT
#47
Jaedong is legendary, but I think Stardust just has his number. His PvZ is so solid.
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igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
July 19 2013 00:04 GMT
#48
I want jd to take it would be so good for jim
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FoShao
Profile Joined November 2012
United States256 Posts
July 19 2013 00:11 GMT
#49
The only thing holding JD back is his ZvP
Bahajinbo
Profile Joined May 2012
Germany488 Posts
July 19 2013 00:12 GMT
#50
Gogo Stardust!
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Italy822 Posts
July 19 2013 00:21 GMT
#51
Stephano and Stardust go!
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Profile Joined May 2013
Canada209 Posts
July 19 2013 01:12 GMT
#52
Is this considered a premier or major tournament?
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
July 19 2013 01:22 GMT
#53
That Jaedong write-up was inspiring
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skylarr
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada209 Posts
July 19 2013 01:33 GMT
#54
Let's not forget JD is 2-0 against flash in sc2
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Profile Joined August 2010
United States175 Posts
July 19 2013 01:40 GMT
#55
Jaedong said it himself, he was used to his muta micro carrying him. Without that incredibly dominant unit at his fingertips, he has great difficulty executing a more "straight up" style.

It's really a shame, considering how he was revered as such a fantastic BW player, but I'm happy to see him gain some success finally now
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Profile Joined April 2012
Germany80 Posts
July 19 2013 01:59 GMT
#56
Im Terran but I really wan´t Jaedong to win.
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Profile Joined August 2012
United States3300 Posts
July 19 2013 02:44 GMT
#57
I want Jaedong to win it all in a dominating fashion, but I must be honest and say that I have my doubts.
Please prove me wrong, JD.
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Profile Joined November 2011
United States375 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-19 03:38:56
July 19 2013 03:37 GMT
#58
1,272 days gentleman! 1,272 failures!

+ Show Spoiler +
Sorry, I couldn't resist D:

Go go Jaedong! You are awesome :D
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Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
July 19 2013 03:38 GMT
#59
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Jaedong.
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United States23 Posts
July 19 2013 04:03 GMT
#60
Jaedong hwaiting! It's his turn!
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Canada2547 Posts
July 19 2013 04:56 GMT
#61
Jaedong got this.
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Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
July 19 2013 06:02 GMT
#62
Would be kinda cool if Lucifron/Vortix won on their homeground, but I don´t think Spain can handle an unleashed Dong.
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Profile Joined July 2012
Germany335 Posts
July 19 2013 06:37 GMT
#63
god damn jd! go for it... its hell about time..
"The voices are back. Excellent." Dexter Morgan
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3748 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-19 07:27:35
July 19 2013 07:27 GMT
#64
On July 19 2013 08:13 jinorazi wrote:
in all honesty sc2 made jaedong bad. everytime i see him try to control sc2 muta i fucking cringe so hard, its like watching a master dog trainer command a mentally and physically retarded border collie.

I'd assume that master dog trainer should be up to the challenge when interacting with retarded canine. Average dog trainer should be good enough for regular border collie. JD plays SC2 long enough that maybe he shouldn't try things that just doesn't work in SC2 unless he wants us to believe that his sole strong point in SC career was SC:BW muta micro.

Go JD!
zmsFlood
Profile Joined April 2013
Finland169 Posts
July 19 2013 08:16 GMT
#65
Wow, the write-up made me hope that JD is going to win even more than I already did. Jaedong hwaiting~
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Mikelius
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany517 Posts
July 19 2013 12:40 GMT
#66
Fuck, I want JD to do awesome and win, but on the other hand I love seeing Protoss win a championship.
Less QQ, more PewPew
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
July 19 2013 13:02 GMT
#67
Can JD find a tournament with a weak enough line up to actually win it?

Such an exciting storyline.
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3748 Posts
July 19 2013 15:41 GMT
#68
Maybe EG.Jaedong will be like Liquid`HerO. After going to enough foreign tournaments he will finally break and become SC2 star.
skylarr
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada209 Posts
July 19 2013 16:14 GMT
#69
On July 20 2013 00:41 nimdil wrote:
Maybe EG.Jaedong will be like Liquid`HerO. After going to enough foreign tournaments he will finally break and become SC2 star.

I wouldn't make that comparison. Hero was a nobody before coming to foreign tournments because he would always choke in the GSL. Meanwhile JD has 9 championships to his name
GunPaladin
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1205 Posts
July 19 2013 17:50 GMT
#70
Jaedong, the hero we need and deserve.
The doctors gave me 9 months to live, ]BIG[ gave me a life time.
jackslater
Profile Joined November 2012
Russian Federation604 Posts
July 21 2013 00:47 GMT
#71
Jae is awesome!
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