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LaLuSh
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden2358 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-03 22:02:08
March 03 2013 22:00 GMT
#541
I think the new dynamics of SC2 suited some players worse than others. And one of them was undoubtedly Tyler -- who was always more of a management type of player with perfect build order execution and just... perfect economy management in general.

When I look at the most succesful players in SC2, they all have the following in common:

They spend like 90% of their time staring at their army (through streamlining their play and effictivizing actions they buy themselves the time to do what actually has the most effect in SC2: moving and microing your army looking for a superior engagement).

Look at someone like stephano and you will be amazed at how much time he spends ordering his army around and... simply staring at his and his opponents army... setting up favorable position after position after position until his opponents finally lose their patience.

When you watch Tyler and others stream (including me to a degree), we spend way too much time on the management side of things. Especially Tyler when I've viewed his stream -- won't move around his army a whole lot. He relies on his build orders and his execution of said build orders (which tbh doesn't give much of an edge anymore in SC2).

Don't take this as bashing but rather as constructive criticism. Economy and Production management is... not effective to focus on in SC2. Relentless army movement, constant prodding and constant positioning and re-positioning is what will reward you.

You gain very little in ways of economy or army leads by merely being good at perfect management. Which is a shame for certain really talented players like ret and tyler (even ret has said he has a really hard time playing the BL/Infestor style, because his engagement skills are just inherently worse than some of the top zergs').
crbox
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1180 Posts
March 03 2013 22:01 GMT
#542
gl Tyler, best of luck to you!
Lightbringer
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany37 Posts
March 03 2013 22:01 GMT
#543
i really hope Tyler rediscovers his motivation to play and improve, would be a shame to have him gone forever.
So best of luck to you in the future Tyler, looking forward to your stream!
ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) WHY AM I TRAPPED IN A SIGNATURE
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
March 03 2013 22:03 GMT
#544
Fare thee well Tyler. You're a cool dude.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
lightrise
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1355 Posts
March 03 2013 22:03 GMT
#545
This is pretty crazy. I thought you might take some time off from the team but never expected you to actually leave it. This is pretty insane. I hope things work out for you man. We are all cheering for you.
Awesome german interviewer: "What was your idea going into games against Idra" "I WANTED TO USE A CHEESE STRATEGY BECAUSE IDRA IS KNOWN TO TILT AFTER LOSING TO SOMETHING GAY" Demuslim
KaiserJohan
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1808 Posts
March 03 2013 22:03 GMT
#546
Best of luck tyler!
England will fight to the last American
Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
March 03 2013 22:06 GMT
#547
--- Nuked ---
Fallen33
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States596 Posts
March 03 2013 22:08 GMT
#548
this is one of the worst days of my life.
"Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever." - Napoleon Bonaparte ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
dextrin303
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden320 Posts
March 03 2013 22:10 GMT
#549
I hope you do well, I will continue to support you!
Brindled
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States508 Posts
March 03 2013 22:12 GMT
#550
On March 04 2013 07:08 Fallen33 wrote:
this is one of the worst days of my life.

Me too.
We <3 you Tyler. Good luck in the future and hope to see you around in the scene!
Ua Mau ke Ea o ka ʻĀina i ka Pono @TL_Brindled11
darksub
Profile Joined July 2010
Argentina302 Posts
March 03 2013 22:18 GMT
#551
Besto of luck!
divide et vinces
Rider517
Profile Joined June 2011
70 Posts
March 03 2013 22:18 GMT
#552
good luck
Misacampo
Profile Joined July 2012
167 Posts
March 03 2013 22:19 GMT
#553
I wonder what korean liquid will replace him with
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
March 03 2013 22:24 GMT
#554
Best of luck Nony, it would be fantastic to see you regain the presence you had in BW.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
R4iD
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada142 Posts
March 03 2013 22:25 GMT
#555
best of luck nony. hope that one day you do your crazy livestream of running 24 miles. eating 24 krispy kream donuts and playing starcraft or whatever the madness you had planned i cant really remember but that woulda been a riot to watch and cheer you on.

now ill just have to root for you to regain your intrinsic as you put it.
your either pro or your noob, and thats life
awha
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1358 Posts
March 03 2013 22:27 GMT
#556
gg Nony, best of luck in the future!
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
March 03 2013 22:28 GMT
#557
Good luck in future endeavors.
Beef Noodles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States937 Posts
March 03 2013 22:30 GMT
#558
Nony is one of the very few non-zergs I've always been a fan of. Sad to see him leave Liquid, but obviously still a huge fan
Fake)Plants
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States373 Posts
March 03 2013 22:32 GMT
#559
I'll never forget NonY's victory in TSL2, was such an excellent achievement. Best of luck to you wherever you're headed Tyler.
Q( ' '(Q
testthewest
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany274 Posts
March 03 2013 22:35 GMT
#560
On March 04 2013 07:08 Fallen33 wrote:
this is one of the worst days of my life.


Cheer up! He isn't dead or anything like that.
He not even quit SC2, he just left the team to gain a new perspective.
I'm sure, someday he will rejoin with TL.
War is not about who is right, but who is left.
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