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[LP] If You Build It, They Will Come

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Table of Contents



Yer a wizard, ‘Arry!


Why Do You Do It? Why Get Up?


Infobox Player 2


New Staff


And Now for Something Completely Different


If You Done It, It Ain’t Bragging



If You Build It,
They Will Come


Hello again and happy winter solstice time! Except if you live on the southern hemisphere...if so happy summer solstice time! It’s us again, because we don't know when to shut up; we don't know HOW to shut up! We added a new main portal design a few months ago, and we hope you like it, it’s even friendly to mobile phones.
However this Liquipedia Review will try and shed some light on the people who contribute. We did sneak a feature update in there too, and had so many fun tweets to choose from we went and chose a lot of them.

Yer a wizard, ‘Arry!

by kollin

As an outsider looking in, editing Liquipedia can sometimes be scary, or intimidating. All those templates and all those different types of brackets could well confuse you if you're new to coding in general. They sure as hell confused me, which put me off ever changing anything for a while. I just appreciated how brilliant a tool Liquipedia was, but I never thought about ever being one of the people making it a brilliant tool.

But one day, that changed. I wanted to contribute to the StarCraft 2 scene. I wanted to make a difference, to the game I loved, even if it was only a small difference, I wanted to contribute. So, one fateful (Wiki)DreamHack Valencia 2012, I updated a result. And that was it, I was hooked on editing. I began craving that feeling of “I contributed, I helped.” It felt good knowing that what I was doing was helping my passion. Not all of us can afford to spend money to help their favourite teams in StarCraft 2 or Dota 2. What I could do was update those teams' pages, and the player pages. I could make sure that when (Wiki)TaeJa wanted to know who he would be playing in the next round of (Wiki)DreamHack Summer 2012, the first place he would go would be Liquipedia, to check out the results I updated. I loved seeing my coins go up, and whenever I saw a player at a big tournament look at a page I'd worked on, I'd feel a rush go through my body.

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(Wiki)Rain using Liquipedia at (Wiki)MLG Dallas 2012. Photo by (Wiki)silverfire/Team Liquid.


So to you budding editors who aren't quite sure when and what they should be doing, and get put off as a result of it, I say: Don't leave. The Liquipedia community as a whole loves seeing someone new come in and start contributing. If you don't know how to contribute, please come to our IRC channel and ask! We probably won't bite! The sense of accomplishment you get from having just created a page for player, personality, patch, or tournament is incredible. And perhaps, more importantly than anything, you get some pretty sick coins to show off to the rest of TeamLiquid.

Why Do You Do It? Why Get Up?

by salle

While updating Liquipedia might be seen as trying to chop down a tree with a herring, there’s still hundreds of people doing it each month and we keep building on to the wikis. So awhile ago I asked the Liquipedia Contributors in our forum what reasons they had for contributing. What their motivations were. You've just heard from Kollin what his reasons were but there are many different reasons we contribute. Here's five of the main reasons:

1 Giving Back


“I just love the Team Liquid community and I wanted to contribute something, and in Liquipedia I found a way I could do that without needing any specialist knowledge or training or needing to commit specific time.”

We humans are social animals. We live in groups. We're also mammals and we care for our offspring, and as such nature has provided us with altruism. Doing something for others feels good. This is an immediate reward.

However giving back isn't just an altruistic thing. All around us in the Team Liquid community we see many people contributing in cool ways to better the community, and this can make us feel a sense of debt, wishing there was something that we could do that would also be useful to someone. And Liquipedia is a great way to give back to the community, not just the Team Liquid community, but the StarCraft—and more recently the Dota 2—communities at large.

2 Fixing Errors


“I started out just wanting to correct small mistakes that I came across, no intention of doing something big. Just helping with the little and obvious things I could do at the time.”

There's so many submissions made to the wiki that occasionally an error pops up—some grammar errors, type errors, and the like—that if you wanted to you could spend all day every day just going over every page to find and remove all of these. And for many of us that is something we did in the beginning before we got invested into the wiki. It's a simple edit: read a page, see an error, log in, find the error in the edit window, correct it, preview and save. Well for some of us it's more about things being “RIGHT!” than wanting to help the community.

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itsjustatank's take on an xkcd comic


3 Preservation


“I have been editing BW content because the game had a very important role in my life, and I feel that contributing to Liquipedia is a way to make BW live forever.”

“I think I started editing because I felt some kind of obligation to preserve history, as it were, especially with the first few steps of SC2. I felt that our new beginning needed to be documented properly for future generations.”

The StarCraft and Dota 2 esports communities are niché communities, whether we like to admit it or not. If we want this part of our lives to be preserved who better to do it than you and I?

4 The Other Contributors


“After all of that I joined the Liquipedia community on irc, I found it awesome, saw that a ton of people were doing everything possible to improve the wiki and so I wanted to help [...]”

“Then, I was able to actually talk to people from TL through IRC. Eventually, just the fact that I was no longer a nobody made me keep on editing.”

This is also part of the social aspect of us humans, we like to belong to groups we respect and we respect people and groups who like what we like. Getting help from the more experienced editors, getting to know new people who are fun and quirky, taking part in one of the Liquipedia Contributors Movie or Gaming nights (never forget the clipboards!) is also part of what makes us wanting to contribute.

5 Recognition for Contributions / Coins


“One day, I noticed that my beer-drinking emoticon in my signature on the forums disappeared, replaced by a coin. When hovering over the coin, the alt text said that it was for 'Liquipedia Contribution.' As I kept editing, this coin began to reproduce asexually, and even change color.”

Besides the coins—which is a pretty good way of showing how much someone has contributed—the shout outs from casters, seeing players using a resource you've helped build, it matters. It feels really awesome. This is more an intermediary benefit though, but it keeps on giving. Whenever people compliment Liquipedia for being updated as soon as games are done, or having tonnes of information, even if you haven't made an edit in a while, you still helped build it and those things makes you feel happy. We also can't forget the Liquichievements that contributors of Liquipedia give to each other in recognition for good work.


Infobox Player 2

by shz

We frantically look for things to improve upon on Liquipedia and templates constitute no exception. The infobox for player pages was one of these things we wanted to revise for a long time. But like it is with most projects, some things need to be left alone for awhile and come back to later. We had discussed a good many ideas over the course of the last couple of months and finally they came into existence.
So, What Changed?
We re-structured, scrapped, changed, and added new features to the infobox. To give you a quick overview, this is (Wiki)Mvp's old and new infoboxes.
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These images are side by side. Infoboxes are always shown single file – to hide their numbers.

The Big Picture


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Judge me by my size, do you? Hmm? Hmm.

The first thing you might notice is, that that the picture now covers the entire width of the infobox. This leads to a cleaner, more modern look. And who doesn't like to look at progamers?

New Structure


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We also restructured the player information. First you will find his/hers personal information and background. Real name—in the native spelling and then if needed, romanized name—birthday, and home country. Then you have the player information: race, team, individual sponsorship, and alternate IDs. You may also noticed the removal of the nickname column. We did not like the way it was used, as it lead, in most cases, to a collection of random nicknames a caster used once or twice, instead a list of widely accepted and notable nicknames for a player (an good example is God/Ultimate Weapon for (Wiki)Flash. This led to the cluttering of the infobox and therefore less useful. Alternatively, we encourage you to add these well-known nicknames to a players trivia section (preferably well-cited).

Stalk In Style


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The old infobox had limited functionality to display relevant links. We only had a handful of sites to link to, and many things had to be done manually. Also, the links were text only and were taking a significant portion of the infobox page, where it really isn't necessary. The solution to having more sites to link to, taking up less space, and making it easier to edit in, was actually pretty simple: Why not use icons? So DivinO made these wonderful icons that we can use to link to all relevant sites.
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That way we can finally stalk a players complete online profile and always find the information we are looking for.

Achievements


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Badges? We ain't got no badges! We don't need no badges!

Before we had the “Crowning Achievement” section in the infobox. The idea was to highlight a players most important, career wise, achievement. Whether it was their breakout performance or finally that first place they've been working towards for so long. The problem with this was, that’s really hard to actually decide. Which was more important for MarineKing's career? His 2nd place in his breakout tournament (Wiki)2010 Sony Ericsson Starcraft II Open Season 2, or was it his long awaited first place in a Premier Tournament at the (Wiki)2012 MLG Pro Circuit/Winter/Arena? We decided to cut this feature and replace it with a showcase of a players premier tournament wins and other notable achievements (like MVP awards or all-kills in team leagues). This way it is always clear what to link there and it is obvious in one glance what the player has achieved.

New Staff

by salle


So since last time we’ve added two new members to our staff, Miwi and ChapatiyaqPTSM. They’ve done some really great work and are very helpful so I’m really glad we have brought them onto the team.
Miwi has been doing brackets for us for a long time (that is, more than a year) and he’s been on board and helped us with our Liquipedia for Dota 2 too. Making some new templates for it.
Chapatiyaq has been contributing for a long time too. The coolest thing he’s done, in my humble opinion, is a system to help contributors fill out brackets either before an event has started or after a whole bracket is completed. We’ve got plans to incorporate this better into Liquipedia, look forward to that.

We have also added pPingu to trial staff. He’s Swiss, so there’s got to be a cuckoo clock joke in here somewhere, but I’m pretending to rise above it.

And Now for Something Completely Different

by tofucake

LP: Introduce yourself!

Tephus: Hi, I'm Tephus, Dota 2 writer, and LPD [Liquipedia Dota 2] contributor! While I've followed esports for many years, I was a bit of a lurker. Over the past few months though I've been been trying to give back to this amazing community!


LP: You seem overly enthusiastic, but I suppose that will fade with more time on staff. What got you started on TL?

Tephus: Well, I've always followed TL as a fan, and loved Liquipedia and their news coverage. I forget why I actually made my account, as I really didn't use it for at least a year. What triggered me starting to contribute was actually the hype surrounding The International 2012 (the first event I have attended live), and with TL starting their official coverage I thought it would be a perfect time to try and help out.


LP: Three months from starting to contribute to full staff is quite impressive, and 3 silver LP coins. What's your motivation?

Tephus: It's a combination of things. I currently have a decent amount of free time, and esports is a major hobby. I've always had a dream of somehow making a career out of this, and while I realize it's probably unlikely, I really enjoy what I've been doing recently. If somehow this turns into something bigger in the future, that would be amazing, but for now I'm quite happy where I am. My initial LPD contributions were also motivated by dreams of a Liquid`Dota team (mission accomplished!), and generally promoting this game I love.


LP: What's your favorite food?

Tephus: This may sound a little different, but amazing fresh bread. In North America (where I live) in general, the bread is so blah, and a few years ago I lived in Germany for a Summer and it opened my eyes. When bread is made right, its unbelievably good.


LP: And your favorite Dota 2 team? And your second favorite after TL?

Tephus: While I can't deny how excited I am for Liquid`Dota, I more enjoy good games and innovation than simply cheering for a single team. If I had to pick another team I'm currently watching, I would say 4 Friends + Chrillee. They have been experimenting a bit with some interesting drafts, and I feel their play as of late shows they are on the verge of becoming a top team in EU.


LP: Where do you see yourself a year from now?

Tephus: Other than watching Dota 2, I honestly have no clue. I definitely didn't think four months ago that I would be staff on TL now. If I end up going along a normal path, I assume I will have less time contribute, but I doubt I would ever stop. But who knows, maybe I will be able to turn this into something else, I have been surprising myself recently.


LP:
Normal path in life or on TL, are you a student, and/or working some sort of "job"?

Tephus: Recently graduated.


LP:
Good luck. What degree did you end up with?

Tephus: Thanks. Computer Engineering.


LP: Plans to design new hardware, perhaps you can build a new processor for Flash so he can win everything?

Tephus: My degree was more balanced towards software than hardware, although my biggest internship was designing hardware...


LP: Hopes and dreams for employment then?

Tephus: Well, there is the big dream of some sort of esports employment. But if we are talking more technical work, I'm currently not too picky, as long as the work environment is nice. I've also toyed with the idea of creating Android apps on my own, but my art skills lack so it can be difficult to create something that looks nice. And that would allow me to work from home, which I would probably find enjoyable.


LP: Sorry, I got distracted. I've also forgotten the next question. Please ask yourself a question and then answer it.

Tephus: Tephus, TeamLiquid is offering you a million dollars. Will you take it?

Tephus: Nah, it's k. Put it towards something sexy.


LP: So if you were given $1 million right now, what would you do with it?

Tephus: Pay off all my debts, travel anywhere I wanted for a bit. Save the rest. Or: live of the rest modestly while doing whatever I want with my free time.


LP: How do you think LPD has progressed since launch, and what's it still missing?

Tephus: Well, it now has pretty good coverage on all the tournaments and basic pages for all the big teams. It lacks big time on player pages. It hurts that a huge portion of the EU scene is CIS, and communication is kinda closed off, so we don't know much about the players. It can be tough to create any sort of player page beside of a stub for many of the players... Also, we have decent templates for in depth game coverage (full stats of each game) but actually updating for every game is a huge chore, so it's basically never used.

So in summary: Tournament coverage is pretty strong right now, player coverage bad, team pages are ok.


LP:
What kind of things do you prefer to edit?

Tephus: New things. New heroes, new tournaments, new teams, results. I don't really enjoy cleaning up or adding to old stuff.


LP: List 5 reasons why Liquipedia > Writers

Tephus: Anyone can instantly contribute to LP.
Puzzle piece glows.
I don't get any coins for writing.
Writing has deadlines


LP: Just remember that you have editors to fix all your mistakes

Tephus: If something doesn't work you can always yell at miwi.


LP: Which is the better icon: puzzle piece or pen?

Tephus: Well, I've never had a puzzle piece...


LP: But which looks better?

Tephus: Pen, except for the nice glow on the puzzle piece...


LP: Sorry wrong answer. Any final words for the readers?

Tephus: Thanks for reading! Never thought I would be interviewed for Liquipedia! If you are at all interesting in helping out, please don't hesitate, all you need to do is log in with your TL account and you can edit away!


LP: Thanks for your time, traitor!

If You Done It, It Ain’t Bragging

by shz

We just read about some insight why people edit Liquipedia, but other than the obvious reason, we always cherish thanks and shout-outs from our ESPORTS celebrities and fans. But to be serious here for a moment, most of us do this to contribute and give back to this community. Whether we love the game or the people, we want to make our little bubble a bit better and getting recognition from the people we do this for is always a special feeling. So please enjoy these moments of recognition and random fun with us and let us brag a little.

@jacquelinesg
      @LiquipediaNet is my best friend. #SC2

@mouzMaNa
Whoever did edit my liquipedia page. I just wanted to say Thank you, it's really well written (Wiki)MaNa


@followgrubby
      @ApolloSC2 bly won WCS ukraine
            @ApolloSC2
                  @followgrubby fml I forgot, damn liquidpedia (Wiki)Bly/Results
                        @AdebisiSC
                              @ApolloSC2 @followgrubby only one d in liquipedia.

@AdebisiSC
      Teamliquid is down, no Liquipedia, casters are fucked.
@AdebisiSC
I think the commentators managed to open like 30 Liquipedia tabs while it was briefly up so we should be ok.


@Kidjica
@StarCraft Where can i see all results?
@StarCraft
@Kidjica We're addressing a bracket issue on the #BWC site. In the meantime, we recommend visiting @LiquipediaNet: (Wiki)2012 Battle.net World Championship


@StimiLant
      @LiquipediaNet hey liquipedia, amazing job in 2012, keep up the great work in 2013 gogogo

@PaulChaloner
Here is my personal shoutout to all those who contribute to @LiquipediaNet for their amazing help in 2012 http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/149cmx/shoutout_a_huge_thank_you_to_everyone_who/




If you've been inspired to make your mark on Liquipedia, remember that all you need to make a contribution is a tiny bit of time, the will, and an account on Teamliquid.net. We need more help with our Dota 2 wiki as Tephus stated, but not only for the esports coverage (player pages), we need help with the hero pages too. So if you want to support Liquipedia, and the fact that Liquipedia is growing outside of StarCraft, you know what to do.

Thanks for reading, and see you on the wiki!
- Liquipedia staff

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kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
December 23 2012 22:41 GMT
#2
WOOOOOH LIQUIPEDIA! Though I can't tell if salle fucked up the HTML or if it's just me -.-
Sunnyyyyy
Profile Joined November 2012
36 Posts
December 23 2012 22:41 GMT
#3
Something is broken in this article, not sure what exactly but I can feel it :O
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
December 23 2012 22:42 GMT
#4
Something is not right here I feel...
salle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden5554 Posts
December 23 2012 22:43 GMT
#5
*whistles*
Administrator"Ambitious but rubbish!" - Jeremy Clarkson
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
December 23 2012 22:43 GMT
#6
Yay it's fixed. And again...WOOOOH LIQUIPEDIA!
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-23 22:50:00
December 23 2012 22:47 GMT
#7
Good work as always guys.
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
salle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden5554 Posts
December 23 2012 22:50 GMT
#8
*keeps whistling*
Administrator"Ambitious but rubbish!" - Jeremy Clarkson
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
December 23 2012 22:50 GMT
#9
So discrete salle.
derpface
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden925 Posts
December 23 2012 22:52 GMT
#10
Liquipedia, Fuck ye?! GJ LADDIES!
gg no re #_< no1 Hydra and Leta fan >_#
Mariosatr
Profile Joined September 2012
294 Posts
December 23 2012 22:57 GMT
#11
I remember, I once updated a result during IEM Singapore and I felt that rush you talk about never really had a spark for it though, someone usually beats me to it.
A mind sharper than any blade.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
December 23 2012 22:59 GMT
#12
Good work guys!
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Ichabod
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1659 Posts
December 23 2012 23:00 GMT
#13
Nice new player info template, more elegant presentation ftw
robih
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria1086 Posts
December 23 2012 23:02 GMT
#14
liquipedia is the best thing ever in esports
astroorion
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1022 Posts
December 23 2012 23:04 GMT
#15
Yay Liquipedia! Now I just need to keep making bracket edits until I get staff ~_~
MLG Admin | Astro.631 NA
moskonia
Profile Joined January 2011
Israel1448 Posts
December 23 2012 23:05 GMT
#16
All the code stuff is the only reason I still haven't contributed yet, wish there was a guide on how to use it and every function of liquipedia. Anyways gj all who did contributed! Very nice to read articles and and the results are always really fast.
Danger Boy
Profile Joined June 2011
United States47 Posts
December 23 2012 23:06 GMT
#17
SO much good work. thank you guys!!
Fun only makes dieing worse...
a9arnn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1537 Posts
December 23 2012 23:06 GMT
#18
#5 is a driving force to do more, those coins are so sexy, you just want more once you get the first one .
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kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
December 23 2012 23:07 GMT
#19
On December 24 2012 07:57 Mariosatr wrote:
I remember, I once updated a result during IEM Singapore and I felt that rush you talk about never really had a spark for it though, someone usually beats me to it.

That's why you be a total pimp and have 8 streams open at once and then another 16 tabs ready to update with every possible combination. Dedication yo.
forsakeNXE
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany539 Posts
December 23 2012 23:07 GMT
#20
nice! gj guys!
Let's learn together!
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
December 23 2012 23:08 GMT
#21
On December 24 2012 08:05 moskonia wrote:
All the code stuff is the only reason I still haven't contributed yet, wish there was a guide on how to use it and every function of liquipedia. Anyways gj all who did contributed! Very nice to read articles and and the results are always really fast.

Well if you come to our IRC linked on the main page of LP as well as in my article we'll be happy to help you. And if you search around you can find templates for pretty much everything you want. It doesn't take long before the code becomes second nature as its pretty intuitive.
ngooo
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany102 Posts
December 23 2012 23:13 GMT
#22
YAY neat! <3 Liquipedia. Always trying to be the first editing the results of live events - oh the fun to have :D
Nuclease
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1049 Posts
December 23 2012 23:14 GMT
#23
Looks much nicer. I think it's time to start contributing!
Zealots, not zee-lots. | Never forget, KTViolet, Go)Space. | You will never be as good as By.Flash, and your drops will never be as sick as MMA.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
December 23 2012 23:20 GMT
#24
Congrats to the new staff.

Liquipedia is simply amazing :D
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plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
December 23 2012 23:21 GMT
#25
Excellent work! Looking forward to contributing more in 2013 once I get my internet fixed!
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fusefuse
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Estonia4644 Posts
December 23 2012 23:22 GMT
#26
the iNfobox 5
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Liquipedia@jkursk
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
December 23 2012 23:23 GMT
#27
Finally ~
LiquipediaSouma: EU MM is just Russian Roulette. Literally.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
December 23 2012 23:27 GMT
#28
And this is why TL is the best website around !
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-23 23:31:00
December 23 2012 23:27 GMT
#29
This article is all part of hot bid's master plan, so he can rest on his millions while most of the site is run by volunteers who only want e-recognition and virtual coins. Not that I can blame him, but I'm always fascinated by how many are willing to work for free while others profit greatly from their work, just in the name of e-sports. TL isn't the only company to do that as Dreamhack runs entirely off volunteers from what I've read. It's a genius plan really and if companies in the non esports world could profit off a legion of volunteers, they would do the same.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
December 23 2012 23:28 GMT
#30
lp sooooo goood
salle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden5554 Posts
December 23 2012 23:31 GMT
#31
On December 24 2012 08:27 Canucklehead wrote:
This article is all part of hot bid's master plan, so he can rest on his millions while most of the site is run by volunteers who only want e-recognition and virtual coins. Not that I can blame him, but I'm always fascinated by how many are willing to work for free while others profit greatly from their work, just in the name of e-sports. TL isn't the only company to do that as Dreamhack runs entirely off volunteers from what I've read.

Only 0.03% of the people using Liquipedia contribute... There's no one about to make millions off of Liquipedia.
Administrator"Ambitious but rubbish!" - Jeremy Clarkson
fusefuse
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Estonia4644 Posts
December 23 2012 23:33 GMT
#32
On December 24 2012 08:27 Canucklehead wrote:
This article is all part of hot bid's master plan, so he can rest on his millions while most of the site is run by volunteers who only want e-recognition and virtual coins. Not that I can blame him, but I'm always fascinated by how many are willing to work for free while others profit greatly from their work, just in the name of e-sports. TL isn't the only company to do that as Dreamhack runs entirely off volunteers from what I've read. It's a genius plan really and if companies in the non esports world could profit off a legion of volunteers, they would do the same.


You nailed it. Such a well kept secret. And you managed to dismantle it with such ease & grace!
Liquipedia@jkursk
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-23 23:35:52
December 23 2012 23:34 GMT
#33
On December 24 2012 08:31 salle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 08:27 Canucklehead wrote:
This article is all part of hot bid's master plan, so he can rest on his millions while most of the site is run by volunteers who only want e-recognition and virtual coins. Not that I can blame him, but I'm always fascinated by how many are willing to work for free while others profit greatly from their work, just in the name of e-sports. TL isn't the only company to do that as Dreamhack runs entirely off volunteers from what I've read.

Only 0.03% of the people using Liquipedia contribute... There's no one about to make millions off of Liquipedia.


Not just talking about liquipedia. Talking about most of the things on the site like translations, articles etc. Isn't it pretty well known TL is run mostly by volunteers? Isn't it a badge of honour TL always likes to talk about saying they got tons of volunteers that help make the site what it is? Pretty sure I've read that in interviews from TL staff before.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
Teaser
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany58 Posts
December 23 2012 23:36 GMT
#34
I really <3 liquipedia. Keep up the great work!
Trasko
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden983 Posts
December 23 2012 23:38 GMT
#35
You guys are heros! Thank you for your work
Jaedong <3
shz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany2687 Posts
December 23 2012 23:45 GMT
#36
On December 24 2012 08:22 fusefuse wrote:
the iNfobox 5
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The iPhone 5 led the way, we followed.
Liquipedia
DODswe4
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2157 Posts
December 23 2012 23:45 GMT
#37
On December 24 2012 08:05 moskonia wrote:
All the code stuff is the only reason I still haven't contributed yet, wish there was a guide on how to use it and every function of liquipedia. Anyways gj all who did contributed! Very nice to read articles and and the results are always really fast.


its not to hard, if you cant code (I cant and had the same reason not to do anything as you) just use preview before you post and if its result look at how others are made mostly its just either copy something or change a number really
Henrietta
Profile Joined August 2011
Argentina17 Posts
December 23 2012 23:45 GMT
#38
Bravo TL! You are so so important for eSports.
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
December 23 2012 23:56 GMT
#39
This is not good. LP's staff is being overrun with Swedes, and we are powerless to confront them!
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
December 23 2012 23:58 GMT
#40
On December 24 2012 08:56 Archas wrote:
This is not good. LP's staff is being overrun with Swedes, and we are powerless to confront them!

Too many germans, only two swedes ^__^
LiquipediaSouma: EU MM is just Russian Roulette. Literally.
evaunit01
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States512 Posts
December 24 2012 00:00 GMT
#41
Without Liquipedia I would be lost trying to follow tournaments, how do people stay up to date without it?!
Gamertag: William T. Riker - My life for Aiur!
drazak
Profile Joined November 2011
United States479 Posts
December 24 2012 00:02 GMT
#42
gogo liquipedia!
Sjokola
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands800 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-24 00:07:08
December 24 2012 00:03 GMT
#43
0,03% ?! Much of the time when I try to update live results someone beat me to it.
Edit: how
Many editors are there at this moment?
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
December 24 2012 00:04 GMT
#44
It might be 0.03% but damn it do we work like we are fucking 1% of the community.
HoLe
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada183 Posts
December 24 2012 00:05 GMT
#45
Hot work by hot guys
Terran.
DODswe4
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2157 Posts
December 24 2012 00:06 GMT
#46
On December 24 2012 09:03 Sjokola wrote:
0,03% ?! Much of the time when I try to update live results someone beat me to it.


for the big tournaments yes, for the smaller ones and show matches. not really. I think results is the ones that most people do as well. other information is harder to write and come by
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
December 24 2012 00:07 GMT
#47
On December 24 2012 09:05 HoLe wrote:
Hot work by hot guys

I'm single and ready to mingle ladies.
shz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany2687 Posts
December 24 2012 00:09 GMT
#48
On December 24 2012 09:03 Sjokola wrote:
0,03% ?! Much of the time when I try to update live results someone beat me to it.
Edit: how
Many editors are there at this moment?


73 for LP1, 219 for LP2, and 38 for LPD.
Liquipedia
Sjokola
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands800 Posts
December 24 2012 00:10 GMT
#49
On December 24 2012 09:06 DODswe4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 09:03 Sjokola wrote:
0,03% ?! Much of the time when I try to update live results someone beat me to it.


for the big tournaments yes, for the smaller ones and show matches. not really. I think results is the ones that most people do as well. other information is harder to write and come by


I mean also when im doing uninteresring amateur iptl matches. But you're probably right
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
December 24 2012 00:10 GMT
#50
Pretty sure a lot of those aren't active too right, assuming you're talking about the actual editor rank?
shz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany2687 Posts
December 24 2012 00:11 GMT
#51
On December 24 2012 09:10 kollin wrote:
Pretty sure a lot of those aren't active too right, assuming you're talking about the actual editor rank?


These are the users in the editor group, yea. Once you become editor, you stay editor, so this is including all inactives as well.
Liquipedia
DODswe4
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2157 Posts
December 24 2012 00:12 GMT
#52
On December 24 2012 09:10 Sjokola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 09:06 DODswe4 wrote:
On December 24 2012 09:03 Sjokola wrote:
0,03% ?! Much of the time when I try to update live results someone beat me to it.


for the big tournaments yes, for the smaller ones and show matches. not really. I think results is the ones that most people do as well. other information is harder to write and come by


I mean also when im doing uninteresring amateur iptl matches. But you're probably right


haha thoose are the one I keep updated mostly :D
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28090 Posts
December 24 2012 00:12 GMT
#53
LP news is the best news

Also, Tephus is awesome.
Administrator
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
December 24 2012 00:13 GMT
#54
On December 24 2012 09:09 shz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 09:03 Sjokola wrote:
0,03% ?! Much of the time when I try to update live results someone beat me to it.
Edit: how
Many editors are there at this moment?


73 for LP1, 219 for LP2, and 38 for LPD.

It feels like we are 4 lol
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&limit=250
LiquipediaSouma: EU MM is just Russian Roulette. Literally.
shz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany2687 Posts
December 24 2012 00:14 GMT
#55
On December 24 2012 09:13 Epoxide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 09:09 shz wrote:
On December 24 2012 09:03 Sjokola wrote:
0,03% ?! Much of the time when I try to update live results someone beat me to it.
Edit: how
Many editors are there at this moment?


73 for LP1, 219 for LP2, and 38 for LPD.

It feels like we are 4 lol
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&limit=250


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Special:ActiveUsers

Out of the 44 active users in the last 30 days, 15 are editors (+ 1 bot) or above.
Liquipedia
DODswe4
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2157 Posts
December 24 2012 00:16 GMT
#56
when is it you become editor?
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-24 00:17:56
December 24 2012 00:17 GMT
#57
I have 946 edits in the last 30 days. I need to get out more TT
EDIT: You become editor after a certain amount of time, generally more than a month with regular editing. The wiki uses auto promote, so if it's slow like it was for me then sometimes staff will promote you themselves to editor.
shz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany2687 Posts
December 24 2012 00:17 GMT
#58
On December 24 2012 09:16 DODswe4 wrote:
when is it you become editor?


If you contribute regulary you will get autopromoted eventually. I think normally it takes 1 or 2 months.
Liquipedia
Shadden
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada9 Posts
December 24 2012 00:21 GMT
#59
So proud to be part of this big family !
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19086 Posts
December 24 2012 00:25 GMT
#60
On December 24 2012 09:13 Epoxide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 09:09 shz wrote:
On December 24 2012 09:03 Sjokola wrote:
0,03% ?! Much of the time when I try to update live results someone beat me to it.
Edit: how
Many editors are there at this moment?


73 for LP1, 219 for LP2, and 38 for LPD.

It feels like we are 4 lol
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&limit=250

Editors and Reviewers are different. Reviewers burn out quite quickly
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
Steelo_Rivers
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1968 Posts
December 24 2012 00:26 GMT
#61
porn title extravaganza. gj yo's. DOIN WORK
ok
NokaH
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway46 Posts
December 24 2012 00:30 GMT
#62
Love liquipedia :D
"All you have to do is click the right amount of buttons." - Day[9]
RiceAgainst
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States1849 Posts
December 24 2012 00:34 GMT
#63
Yay, Liquipedia FIGHTING! I remember the first time I updated, I messed up and felt bad about it so I never edited again. Hehe, one day, I'll start again. For now, Thank you Liquipedia!
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
December 24 2012 00:35 GMT
#64
On December 24 2012 09:34 RiceAgainst wrote:
Yay, Liquipedia FIGHTING! I remember the first time I updated, I messed up and felt bad about it so I never edited again. Hehe, one day, I'll start again. For now, Thank you Liquipedia!

Do eeet. Do it noooooow!
Sjokola
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands800 Posts
December 24 2012 00:42 GMT
#65
On December 24 2012 09:12 DODswe4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 09:10 Sjokola wrote:
On December 24 2012 09:06 DODswe4 wrote:
On December 24 2012 09:03 Sjokola wrote:
0,03% ?! Much of the time when I try to update live results someone beat me to it.


for the big tournaments yes, for the smaller ones and show matches. not really. I think results is the ones that most people do as well. other information is harder to write and come by


I mean also when im doing uninteresring amateur iptl matches. But you're probably right


haha thoose are the one I keep updated mostly :D

It's you! Lol
iMAniaC
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway703 Posts
December 24 2012 00:44 GMT
#66
On December 24 2012 08:27 Canucklehead wrote:
This article is all part of hot bid's master plan, so he can rest on his millions while most of the site is run by volunteers who only want e-recognition and virtual coins. Not that I can blame him, but I'm always fascinated by how many are willing to work for free while others profit greatly from their work, just in the name of e-sports. TL isn't the only company to do that as Dreamhack runs entirely off volunteers from what I've read. It's a genius plan really and if companies in the non esports world could profit off a legion of volunteers, they would do the same.


Everything you see exists together in a delicate balance. As a TL member, you need to understand that balance and respect all the components, from the silent lurker to the energetic LP editor.

"But, wait, doesn't Hot_Bid get paid for the work we put in?" you asked.

Yes, Canucklehead, but let me explain. When we edit, our edits become the content, and the content needs a server. Besides, when he doesn't have to worry about LP, Hot_Bid can go out and make awesome interviews for us to watch for free. And with all this free stuff, visitors come to watch and provide us with the means to continue to have free servers. And so we are all connnected in the great Circle of ESPORTS.

It's the Ciiiiiiiircle of ESPOOOOORTS!
SovereignT
Profile Joined January 2011
United States28 Posts
December 24 2012 00:54 GMT
#67
yawn
The opinions expressed by this user reflect the official position of both TeamLiquid.net and its staff.
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
December 24 2012 00:56 GMT
#68
Thanks for your opinion, glad to know you appreciate the work we put in.
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
December 24 2012 01:00 GMT
#69
It's these kinds of comments that help the most to keep my motivation up to edit LP everyday
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
December 24 2012 01:04 GMT
#70
LP Review is so awesome. I wish I could do something as awesome as this one day!
Moderator
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
December 24 2012 01:06 GMT
#71
Monk. What if I told you that you could, all you need is your very own teamliquid account!
jackslater
Profile Joined November 2012
Russian Federation604 Posts
December 24 2012 01:08 GMT
#72
Wow great work guys! Thanks a lot!
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
December 24 2012 01:31 GMT
#73
This last dreamhack was the first time I went into hardcore live updating on the wiki. I've done a whole bunch of work, but I've never had four streams open, a binarybrackets page open, and two LP windows open at once. And it went on for an entire day.

Feels great to be a contributor to Liquipedia. After relying on it for so long I decided to contribute myself about a year back. No regrets. Awesome article!
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
stjartrov
Profile Joined August 2012
Sweden81 Posts
December 24 2012 01:50 GMT
#74
If what I do in the Teamliquid forums is called stalking, I don't want to know what I do on Liquipedia is called. Most used site of the year. Lovely work as always!
jnd
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Czech Republic915 Posts
December 24 2012 02:00 GMT
#75
Oh, I want me some coins too! So far I've been trying to update some results, usually it looks like race and I lose, guess I watch too big tournaments. Or I wanted to update some unit info after patch and it was already done, you guys are simply too good! Maybe I find a way to contribute more regularly.
Team 8 BaBy will be the next Terran Bonjwa in HoTS | HSC V, the best tournament in 2012 | GD Studio #1 no fluff esports show
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
December 24 2012 02:22 GMT
#76
If anyone wants coins fast, go to the BW Liquipedia and edit a bunch of old Proleague matches to get them complete. That was the bulk of my edits before school took up too much free time.
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
netherDrake
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Singapore1831 Posts
December 24 2012 02:41 GMT
#77
following esports would be so much harder without LP, thanks to all the contributors
SC2 player for Flash eSports. twitch.tv/nether_drake, https://twitter.com/bryan_sum, http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bryan-Drake-Sum/468389706519567
muthan
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2 Posts
December 24 2012 02:54 GMT
#78
TLDR, I am to drunk to read more than on sentece. So Liquipedia is the most awesome wiki when it comes to Esport. you are more live then the tournaments with their scores. So keep the work up.

YOU ARE AWESOME!!!.

you are the No. #1 when it comes to results in sc2 or dota2

faiza
Profile Joined June 2012
United States451 Posts
December 24 2012 03:27 GMT
#79
This was so motivating, I made my first edit. Hope I didn't fuck up! <3 you guys at Liquipedia.
tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
December 24 2012 03:41 GMT
#80
Sweet! Thanks for all the work you guys do
Crais
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2136 Posts
December 24 2012 04:16 GMT
#81
Liquipedia is the best. /bow
RIP MBC Game Hero
Pugsly
Profile Joined February 2011
United States50 Posts
December 24 2012 04:42 GMT
#82
Always on top your guy's game. :D
Thank You Based God
i3rainless
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany34 Posts
December 24 2012 04:44 GMT
#83
Guys I really love you!!!!

You'r so unbelievable awesome I don'T know what to say.
MatiaasS !
Profile Joined October 2011
Chile167 Posts
December 24 2012 05:06 GMT
#84
Liquipedia ♥
Team EG, TL and IM ! || Tennis For Life ♥ RF ♥
Flench
Profile Joined June 2012
United States21 Posts
December 24 2012 05:48 GMT
#85
Liquipedia always amazes me.
and the gunslinger followed...
Compelled
Profile Joined December 2012
United States2 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-24 08:43:53
December 24 2012 06:00 GMT
#86
This entire forum is just fucking lol...
Let's just pat ourselves on the back while we're here.
Power reveals the retards.
yawnoC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States3704 Posts
December 24 2012 06:23 GMT
#87
I edited something on liquipedia once... and it was approved.

Would edit again.

Nice article. I am really happy that a resource like liquipedia exists.
GG - UNiVeRsE is the best player in the WORLD
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
December 24 2012 07:12 GMT
#88
winter time is also not for germany xD 8am and we have +9°C outside and it will be to +15°C today ... what a christmas
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
Khai
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia551 Posts
December 24 2012 07:15 GMT
#89
Liquipedia is such an awesome resource, I use it like it's the know-it-all book of sc2, keep up the great work guys! Thank you all!
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
December 24 2012 07:21 GMT
#90
Old version was much better. More information, more pellucid.
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-24 07:25:07
December 24 2012 07:23 GMT
#91
On December 24 2012 16:12 CoR wrote:
winter time is also not for germany xD 8am and we have +9°C outside and it will be to +15°C today ... what a christmas


Here is -30 degrees :D
No, yesterday was, now only -20 degrees.
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
PolskaGora
Profile Joined May 2011
United States547 Posts
December 24 2012 07:34 GMT
#92
Hey Liquipedia! I love you yo! Now I need to get back to work.....

Also, special thanks to drazak, salle, and itsjustatank for helping me out/adding new cool features to external media link templates! You guys rock!
Tracking treasure down
Tommymannen
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden27 Posts
December 24 2012 08:20 GMT
#93
Spent a few hours updating the Dota 2 LP, sure was addicting. Will probably end up doing more stuff
Mahanaim
Profile Joined December 2012
Korea (South)1002 Posts
December 24 2012 09:59 GMT
#94
Liquipedia Fighting!
Celebrating Starcraft since... a long time ago.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28090 Posts
December 24 2012 10:00 GMT
#95
On December 24 2012 17:20 Tommymannen wrote:
Spent a few hours updating the Dota 2 LP, sure was addicting. Will probably end up doing more stuff

Awesome!!! Keep at it
Administrator
Farone
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands1219 Posts
December 24 2012 10:13 GMT
#96
new player box looks awesome!
MC, Stephano, Ret, Jjakji, Grubby, Life, HerO, Scarlett, TaeJa
NotoriousBig
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Germany301 Posts
December 24 2012 10:19 GMT
#97
I don´t know what Esports would be without Liquipedia, you guys are play a gbig role of keeping Esports alive, because the way to find the official bracket site, is mostly very complicated and everybody knows the LP design and your beatiful and incredible big database!
Digitalis
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1043 Posts
December 24 2012 10:25 GMT
#98
Good jobs guys, its nice to see liquipedia getting some news. We don't want it to be the unsung hero of e sports
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-24 10:35:27
December 24 2012 10:28 GMT
#99
Awesome update, and fajitas are pretty tasty.

On December 24 2012 08:56 Archas wrote:
This is not good. LP's staff is being overrun with Swedes, and we are powerless to confront them!


i second this
memes are a dish best served dank
salle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden5554 Posts
December 24 2012 11:02 GMT
#100
One of the things that got left on the cutting room floor:
[image loading]
Administrator"Ambitious but rubbish!" - Jeremy Clarkson
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
December 24 2012 11:03 GMT
#101
Guys you better find the Easter Egg in the news article.
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
December 24 2012 11:22 GMT
#102
--- Nuked ---
Emptyness
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Bulgaria1016 Posts
December 24 2012 12:12 GMT
#103
I want to say many big Thank you to all the contributors .

Keep up the good work and know that it is most welcome, appreciate and inspiring for people like me .
Fall down 9 times, Get up 10.
Lazorstrats
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands43 Posts
December 24 2012 12:20 GMT
#104
GG contributers
It's time to roll the dice. - Mat Cauthon
Pongo
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia79 Posts
December 24 2012 12:45 GMT
#105
On December 24 2012 20:03 kollin wrote:
Guys you better find the Easter Egg in the news article.


Are you talking about the little beer smiley man?
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-24 12:46:28
December 24 2012 12:45 GMT
#106
On December 24 2012 21:45 Pongo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 20:03 kollin wrote:
Guys you better find the Easter Egg in the news article.


Are you talking about the little beer smiley man?

Nope. EDIT: Wait maybe, let me ask salle :D I was thinking of another one, but it could be that one.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
December 24 2012 12:49 GMT
#107
Liquipedia! Only ever done an edit or two to correct grammar though I don't contribute much...
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Lasbike
Profile Joined January 2011
France2888 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-24 12:59:23
December 24 2012 12:58 GMT
#108
The amount of time I spend on liquipedia is incredible. It's been 2 years. Looking forward for at least the next two

Thanks to all contributors !
decotta
Profile Joined August 2011
Argentina43 Posts
December 24 2012 13:07 GMT
#109
I've been trying to help more and more. I feel it's awesome and thanks for whoever takes the time to update it :D
shz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany2687 Posts
December 24 2012 13:09 GMT
#110
On December 24 2012 16:12 CoR wrote:
winter time is also not for germany xD 8am and we have +9°C outside and it will be to +15°C today ... what a christmas


Thank God!
Liquipedia
Big-t
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1350 Posts
December 24 2012 13:21 GMT
#111
On December 24 2012 21:45 kollin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 21:45 Pongo wrote:
On December 24 2012 20:03 kollin wrote:
Guys you better find the Easter Egg in the news article.


Are you talking about the little beer smiley man?

Nope. EDIT: Wait maybe, let me ask salle :D I was thinking of another one, but it could be that one.


Can find anything, plz tell us^^
monchi | IdrA | Flash
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
December 24 2012 13:22 GMT
#112
On December 24 2012 22:21 Big-t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 21:45 kollin wrote:
On December 24 2012 21:45 Pongo wrote:
On December 24 2012 20:03 kollin wrote:
Guys you better find the Easter Egg in the news article.


Are you talking about the little beer smiley man?

Nope. EDIT: Wait maybe, let me ask salle :D I was thinking of another one, but it could be that one.


Can find anything, plz tell us^^

You're not looking hard enough then ^^
firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
December 24 2012 14:05 GMT
#113
I'm sorry, but I just can't stop laughing over the fact that the guys favorite food is bread haha
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fenrysk
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States364 Posts
December 24 2012 14:07 GMT
#114
i forget which pill Salle gave me but the rabbit hole is deep.
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shz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany2687 Posts
December 24 2012 14:08 GMT
#115
On December 24 2012 23:05 firehand101 wrote:
I'm sorry, but I just can't stop laughing over the fact that the guys favorite food is bread haha


You never ate German bread, did you? :D
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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19086 Posts
December 24 2012 14:09 GMT
#116
On December 24 2012 23:05 firehand101 wrote:
I'm sorry, but I just can't stop laughing over the fact that the guys favorite food is bread haha

American bread is basically cardboard :|
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ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1689 Posts
December 24 2012 14:45 GMT
#117
On December 24 2012 23:09 tofucake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 23:05 firehand101 wrote:
I'm sorry, but I just can't stop laughing over the fact that the guys favorite food is bread haha

American bread is basically cardboard :|

Hey! HEY! Lies and slander... Here in England, I always buy German bread. Haters gonna hate though
EleGant[AoV]
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
December 24 2012 14:47 GMT
#118
On December 24 2012 23:45 ImbaTosS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 23:09 tofucake wrote:
On December 24 2012 23:05 firehand101 wrote:
I'm sorry, but I just can't stop laughing over the fact that the guys favorite food is bread haha

American bread is basically cardboard :|

Hey! HEY! Lies and slander... Here in England, I always buy German bread. Haters gonna hate though

What brand of bread do you buy? I just buy Warburton's ^^
Big-t
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1350 Posts
December 24 2012 14:56 GMT
#119
Tzzz anyone who says bread is shit, never ate some real good non industrially produced bread.
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Koerage
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands1220 Posts
December 24 2012 14:57 GMT
#120
On December 24 2012 07:41 Sunnyyyyy wrote:
Something is broken in this article, not sure what exactly but I can feel it :O


there is:
@followgrubbz
@ApolloSC2 bly won WCS ukraine

should be "@followgrubby"
not sure if someone else already pointed it out
OT: nice read!
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
December 24 2012 15:01 GMT
#121
On December 24 2012 23:57 Koerage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 07:41 Sunnyyyyy wrote:
Something is broken in this article, not sure what exactly but I can feel it :O


there is:
@followgrubbz
@ApolloSC2 bly won WCS ukraine

should be "@followgrubby"
not sure if someone else already pointed it out
OT: nice read!

When this was posted salle fucked up the HTML, so you could see all the code, but it's fixed now :D
CrtBalorda
Profile Joined December 2011
Slovenia704 Posts
December 24 2012 15:05 GMT
#122
-.-
Sadly noone seems to care about the stratagy section.
I wouldnt be suprised if the dota 2 wiki gains more content.
Since its much easier to write stratagy for 1 hero.
4th August 2012...Never forget.....
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
December 24 2012 15:08 GMT
#123
WOooOoooO! Information! <3 LP
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Silencioseu
Profile Joined June 2011
Cyprus493 Posts
December 24 2012 16:40 GMT
#124
I would really like to contribute, but sadly there's nothing i can help with unless maybe some fun trivia. I'm not known with most player's achievements and stuff
i kno i r badass no need to repeat
salle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden5554 Posts
December 24 2012 19:17 GMT
#125
On December 24 2012 21:45 Pongo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 20:03 kollin wrote:
Guys you better find the Easter Egg in the news article.


Are you talking about the little beer smiley man?

Well more what he links to, but yes.

On December 24 2012 23:07 fenrysk wrote:
i forget which pill Salle gave me but the rabbit hole is deep.

The red pill, clearly.

On December 24 2012 23:56 Big-t wrote:
Tzzz anyone who says bread is shit, never ate some real good non industrially produced bread.

Completely agree, I bake my own bread, sometimes with sour-dough sometimes with brewer's yeast.

On December 25 2012 00:05 CrtBalorda wrote:
-.-
Sadly noone seems to care about the stratagy section.
I wouldnt be suprised if the dota 2 wiki gains more content.
Since its much easier to write stratagy for 1 hero.

I don't think this is necessarily true, my hope is that both wikis grows in strategic content. You can for example copy guides written on the SC2 Strategy forum on TL to Liquipedia if the builds are based on competitive play. However there's not that many people who want to invest the time in writing down guides rather than spend the time practising and improving themselves. (that are high enough in skill level to understand many of the nuances of the build)

On December 25 2012 01:40 Silencioseu wrote:
I would really like to contribute, but sadly there's nothing i can help with unless maybe some fun trivia. I'm not known with most player's achievements and stuff

Most of the stuff people contribute is not original content. For example if you want to help improve a player page, read/watch interviews with the player, sum that up into an article together with information from the achievements/results/TLPD to tell the story of that player.
We like well sourced player articles.
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galtdunn
Profile Joined March 2011
United States977 Posts
December 24 2012 19:47 GMT
#126
hmmm maybe have to start editing again xD
Currently editing items in the DotA 2 wiki. PM for questions/suggestions.
SolidHaze
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada44 Posts
December 25 2012 04:55 GMT
#127
mmmmmmmm... coins...
Excelsior!
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28090 Posts
December 25 2012 07:44 GMT
#128
On December 25 2012 00:01 kollin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 23:57 Koerage wrote:
On December 24 2012 07:41 Sunnyyyyy wrote:
Something is broken in this article, not sure what exactly but I can feel it :O


there is:
@followgrubbz
@ApolloSC2 bly won WCS ukraine

should be "@followgrubby"
not sure if someone else already pointed it out
OT: nice read!

When this was posted salle fucked up the HTML, so you could see all the code, but it's fixed now :D

I did that when posting one of the Dota 2 features to the front page. Luckily Heyoka fixed it in like 20 seconds, and only 20-30 people viewed it.
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Holloworb
Profile Joined November 2011
Norway345 Posts
December 25 2012 09:12 GMT
#129
I got big respect and alot of appreciation for the work you do.
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
December 25 2012 11:49 GMT
#130
True story:

Tonight I dreamed that I was awarded the gold coin.

It's the nerdiest moment of my life thus far.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
j1nzo
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany367 Posts
December 25 2012 11:56 GMT
#131
big shot out to all the contributers of liquipedia! your're doing an awesome job!
everytime i need to know anything about bw or the korean names of pro gamers i never have to google it, so thank you for making my life a little easier
merry christmas to all the tl members/staff and community of teamliquid
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salle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden5554 Posts
December 25 2012 12:23 GMT
#132
On December 25 2012 20:49 KristofferAG wrote:
True story:

Tonight I dreamed that I was awarded the gold coin.

It's the nerdiest moment of my life thus far.

Haha, that's so hilarious and sad at the same time. Keep at it and it will come.
Administrator"Ambitious but rubbish!" - Jeremy Clarkson
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
December 25 2012 12:54 GMT
#133
On December 25 2012 21:23 salle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2012 20:49 KristofferAG wrote:
True story:

Tonight I dreamed that I was awarded the gold coin.

It's the nerdiest moment of my life thus far.

Haha, that's so hilarious and sad at the same time. Keep at it and it will come.

If my dream is accurate it will be delivered by a courier on horse.

I'm really looking forward to it.

=D
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
December 25 2012 12:58 GMT
#134
I heard that it was brought down by angels floating on a cloud of ESPORTS.
JoFeSboyAT
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria128 Posts
December 25 2012 15:41 GMT
#135
teamliquid best community side !
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cYaN
Profile Joined May 2004
Norway3322 Posts
December 25 2012 17:00 GMT
#136
Really like the new clean infobox, and as always great job everyone who contributes. Sincerely thank you^^
THF
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom20 Posts
December 25 2012 18:42 GMT
#137
A nice article. The infobox is much better too
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
December 25 2012 20:55 GMT
#138
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plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
December 26 2012 04:04 GMT
#139
Nothing like trying to edit some results and having the same changes made on 5 different pages to make you realise how much of a noob you are at Liquipedia.
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
December 26 2012 11:14 GMT
#140
I am late for the party. But still yay us !
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
December 26 2012 17:38 GMT
#141
liquipedia is a work of god, by men
ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
YourGoodFriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2197 Posts
December 27 2012 06:11 GMT
#142
Help liquipedia and get coins! Its kind of like Mario...
anonymous is the most famous author that anyone can be
UltimateHurl
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland591 Posts
December 27 2012 11:38 GMT
#143
Great to see the inner workings of a great resource, love the Star Wars reference too
StillRooney
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden106 Posts
December 27 2012 18:36 GMT
#144
Keep up the good work everyone who has contributed
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
December 27 2012 22:10 GMT
#145
Great article yet again ^_^
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Ftwpker
Profile Joined January 2011
United States165 Posts
December 28 2012 00:34 GMT
#146
nice job guys!
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
F14C0
Profile Joined July 2012
Colombia17 Posts
December 28 2012 01:07 GMT
#147
great job guys!

keep doin cool things
Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
December 28 2012 02:19 GMT
#148
Awesome write up, unfortunately, the only player I have semi-access to is KomA from iS, and that sporadically through his brother...

I may start going through and fixing little spelling/syntax errors and maybe an update for a tournament here and there, but I can't catch most tournaments live, bleh...
Steam: rook492
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
December 28 2012 15:55 GMT
#149
I got the taste of gold today.

Now I must have more.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
December 28 2012 15:56 GMT
#150
Nice job
shz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany2687 Posts
December 28 2012 15:59 GMT
#151
On December 29 2012 00:55 KristofferAG wrote:
I got the taste of gold today.

Now I must have more.


Uhhhhhl. Congratz!
Liquipedia
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
December 28 2012 16:17 GMT
#152
Thanks! I think the GSL Up/Down Statistics page for the next season is what tipped me over from silver to gold.

Now, back to editing!
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Nvar
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark150 Posts
January 06 2013 01:29 GMT
#153
What would a SC2 fan do without Liquipedia? Personaly. i would be lost!
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