The Stampede Continues - Rain and Soulkey continue the KeSPA Seven winning streak, beating GOM players horror and Coca.
Even for the most avid fan of top class Korean SC2 pro-gaming, there are nights when it's hard to get interested. After what seemed like an endless stream of big ticket match-ups, intriguing championship clashes, and KeSPA superstars going up against their GomTV equivalents, we finally had a night where the games could be passed on.
With MC forfeiting so he could go off to IEM to win some easier cash, the most intriguing match of the night between MC and Hack was called off. That isn't to say Soulkey and Coca wasn't also a match worth hyping up, but with the mirror match-up stigma stuck onto the match between two of the best Zergs the split factions have to offer, it wasn't a strong enough headliner to attract the same number of eyeballs and chatter.
Starting off with Rain and horror, we all came to ask ourselves the question that is going to bug us for the rest of our lives: how the hell did MarineKing, one of the best players in the world, lose to horror in the preliminaries? Either MarineKing had to play the worst games of his life, horror six pooled twice, or the LG-IM Zerg has the worst case of stage fright ever documented in a pro-gamer.
On the Elephant Meter, I can only award a measly half-elephant (
) out of five. Rain played decently and was able to take the series 2-1, but this is the least impressive victory a KeSPA Seven player has had so far in the tournament. If his faction wasn't on a gigantic winning streak and taking down big names like DongRaeGu, his close victory might be impressive, but now it's just another in a long line of KeSPA lower bracket dominance.
horror established himself as the weakest player in the field of 32. If we have a Junkka Awards after this tournament is over, he will be the favorite to take home the award for the player least likely ever seen again in our lifetime. Him or YuGiOh, who looked like he was being sent to the SlayerS dungeon for the rest of eternity after going a miserable 0 - 4 against the elephants this tournament. Hopefully it really just is nerve issues holding him back, and he can become better in the future, but the player we saw last night was clearly outmatched and doesn't stand a chance of winning in the Mokdong studios anytime soon.
In the match between Coca and Soulkey, we saw the disturbing trend continue, as the GOM player once more looked like he was playing with his entire family held hostage. Coca, who had advantages throughout the series, kept making small mistakes and paid for them against one of the strongest KeSPA players. Soulkey, who knows how it feels to do well and then have everything unravel due to a few small mistakes, got to see it from the other side of the window this time around and exploited every gap that Coca left for him.
Gaining a 2-0 victory and extending the KeSPA Seven winning streak to six, Soulkey finally got the taste of beating a GOM player after having the bad luck of being placed against three strong Terrans in a row. For Coca and Slayers, things aren't going so well. With MMA's future still in doubt, Ryung practicing outside the house, Crank leaving and getting sponsored by TotalBiscuit for the upcoming MLG, and now Coca and YuGiOh choking against KeSPA players, things aren't looking any happier after getting all-killed by Gumiho in the GSTL Finals.
For beating a player who really should be in Code S, I'll give Soulkey a 4/5 (
) on the Elephant Meter. We can't forget that while Coca has shown ZvT and ZvP S-class matches, his ZvZ is the reason why he is still in Code B. You can also throw in the fact that he and YuGiOh, out of all the players who had to go up against KeSPA so far this tournament, looked to be the most frightened of losing. For SlayerS' sake, Genius will need to steel his mind as he goes up against the Tyrant, Jaedong, in next day of games.
Finally, we saw dreamertt beat B4 with a double proxy rax bunker rush in the third set. Yeah, that's all you need to know.
The GomTV teams should band together and hire some sports psychologists to counsel their players, because the pressure of being expected to win against KeSPA players is really causing their play to deteriorate. This isn't to say that all of the KeSPA victories are undeserved, because some of the games would have had the same result no matter what mental state the GomTV players were in. But in at least a few of the games you couldn't shake the feeling that a little psychological boost could have been the difference between victory and defeat.
TAiLS is a strange player, having put in an amazingly clutch performance early in his career when he beat Nestea AND Mvp to send his team to the GSTL finals. That was when Mvp and Nestea were in their primes and easily the #1 and #2 players in the world. The fearless player from that time is gone, and we've been left with a player who had trouble bringing his best against Happy last week. We can't say for sure that he'll crack under the pressure, but he's definitely at high risk.
After seeing him barely lose to Puzzle in the first round of WCS, you have go give herO a fair shake or more at taking out TAiLS. Puzzle has never been the best PvP player in GSL, but he's still an experienced and proven player, and a close series against such a player carries much merit. On the other hand, this is PvP, so you could probably disregard everything written so far and flip a coin for this prediction.
Effort put up a record 4.5/5 elephants on the elephant meter with his victory over DongRaeGu, but it's now likely he will be brought down to earth. DRG is in the biggest slump of his career, and Effort's Proleague record showed even before the match that he was disproportionately strong in the Zerg mirror. He looked extremely ordinary (and thus outmatched) against Liquid's HerO in the first round of the tournament, and if his ZvT is at a similar level, he will get picked apart by Gumiho.
Of all the GomTV players left in this tournament, Gumiho might be the best Terran player, and the one with the steeliest nerves. He scored a magnificent all-kill against SlayerS in the GSTL grand-finals, after which it's hard to think anything would daunt him. On top of that, he's an amazing TvZ harassment player, which makes him the perfect hitman to exploit the biggest weakness we've seen in KeSPA players so far: their inability to deal with Terran mobility in late game ZvT. Effort can probably duel evenly with Gumiho during the lair phase, and maybe even take a win if he plays well enough there, but more likely than not, Gumiho will make him the victim of one of his rapidly performed, messy dissections in the late game.
What to expect here? Reality is kind of a surprise performer from the KeSPA contingent, being one of the less accomplished Proleague players before his WCS debut. Even now you can sense the spotlight on Reality has diminished greatly. He might have led the charge by taking out YuGiOh to give KeSPA players their first series win, but five more KeSPA victories after that, including ones by some of the biggest stars KeSPA has, will understandably draw more attention.
Reality will now be the first KeSPA player to play a GomTV player in TvT, the match-up considered the least volatile mirror. It's hard to predict how he will do, considering that he's barely played any TvT in Proleague, and even his TvZ win over YuGiOh was one of the less remarkable KeSPA wins in terms of opponent defeated or skill displayed. He just played a solid game with few mistakes, and it turned out to be good enough for a win.
Against Happy, that could be sufficient once more. Happy looked very poor against TAiLS, and if we chalk that up to nerves, we can extrapolate he'll be an even bigger wreck against a KeSPA player. He's only here in the first place because Mvp forfeited WCS due to a scheduling conflict (gotta pay the bills), and we were looking forward to seeing how the god-emperor of the GSL would erase an upstart KeSPA player from existence before we received the news.
We have seen Happy play some very good TvT in the GSL, including some games where he showed unique mixes of bio-mech to handle good TvT players like fOrGG and Ryung without much trouble. If he could play at that level in the WCS, then it would be safe to say he's favored against Reality here. However, we're not sold on his mentality here, so it could be a much closer match than it should be.
It's not hard to guess what's going through Jaedong's mind at any given time. Probably "Kill," "Kill more," or "Kill again." Genius is far more complex; his aloof attitude and total acceptance of his public image as a bad, lucky, lazy player melds with his consistently good results to present a player you really don't know what to make of. He could be thinking of better rune setups for Sivir for all we know, as he plays his GSL games and proceeds to win anyway.
It's helped him a lot that he picked the ID he did, as it subconsciously steers Western fans towards the more positive interpretation of his character: a massively talented player who can't find the motivation to do more than coast. If he had chosen the ID 'Lucky' for instance, I'm sure more people would be looking at him with Virus and Ensnare colored glasses.
What's the point of that digression? Well, when we talk about the entire psychology of KeSPA vs GomTV – the advantages of having nothing to lose, the disadvantage of playing NOT to lose and what not – we're assuming everyone is your usual progamer. It's the sense of competitiveness and pride in their skill that can cause GomTV players to falter when they're put up against these underdogs with an usual background. In Genius's case, all of that pride and competitiveness might not even matter. He seems to be content to have a decent career, find success when the circumstances align, and make some reasonable money where it's to be found. He might be amused by the KeSPA transition, but probably not so troubled. In other words, Jaedong is just another player, and WCS is just another tournament.
Genius's mechanics aren't the cleanest, but he makes good decisions, chooses builds well, and puts himself in situations where 'good-enough' force-fields will allow him to beat more mechanically gifted players. Jaedong is still largely unrefined talent, with which he might be able to bludgeon lesser GomTV players to death with brute force, but will still struggle against the more experienced tournament players from the GSL.
You know, I like these write ups and reviews and such, but they could do with a little bit of a coser look in the editing phase. I imagine the frequency with which tey have to be put out makes the difficult.
Anyway, as to the games: when does this sense of extreme nervousness vs kespa players end? Several players have mentioned it in their interviews, but what will it take before the kespa players don't inspire bad play in their opponents? Maybe Genius is it, but honestly the zvp performances in kespa matches makes me think genius should have this regardless.
Why are GOM players supposedly such emotional wrecks here? They're professional competitors. It seems rather ridiculous that every single of them so far has been unable to pull it together and play up to their calibre.
On August 16 2012 09:23 GolemMadness wrote: Why are GOM players supposedly such emotional wrecks here? They're professional competitors. It seems rather ridiculous that every single of them so far has been unable to pull it together and play up to their calibre.
Same reason Tossgirl cried when she lost to Idra. GOM players have played for 2 years and every time one of the loses, they get flayed online by the Koreans and foreigners for losing to KeSPA players. Also I wouldn't be surprised if the coaches weren't heavily disappointed if one of their players lost to a guy with 90% less experience.
On August 16 2012 09:23 GolemMadness wrote: Why are GOM players supposedly such emotional wrecks here? They're professional competitors. It seems rather ridiculous that every single of them so far has been unable to pull it together and play up to their calibre.
Same reason Tossgirl cried when she lost to Idra. GOM players have played for 2 years and every time one of the loses, they get flayed online by the Koreans and foreigners for losing to KeSPA players. Also I wouldn't be surprised if the coaches weren't heavily disappointed if one of their players lost to a guy with 90% less experience.
That was more a matter of national pride, though. Did Boxer fall apart when he played against a 15-year-old Flash?
On August 16 2012 09:23 GolemMadness wrote: Why are GOM players supposedly such emotional wrecks here? They're professional competitors. It seems rather ridiculous that every single of them so far has been unable to pull it together and play up to their calibre.
Same reason Tossgirl cried when she lost to Idra. GOM players have played for 2 years and every time one of the loses, they get flayed online by the Koreans and foreigners for losing to KeSPA players. Also I wouldn't be surprised if the coaches weren't heavily disappointed if one of their players lost to a guy with 90% less experience.
That was more a matter of national pride, though. Did Boxer fall apart when he played against a 15-year-old Flash?
those are his younger peers coming up through the system
On August 16 2012 09:23 GolemMadness wrote: Why are GOM players supposedly such emotional wrecks here? They're professional competitors. It seems rather ridiculous that every single of them so far has been unable to pull it together and play up to their calibre.
Most GOM players are not really strong-willed professional competitors at all, the kespa guys have years and years more experience being broadcasted on a big TV network.
On August 16 2012 09:50 Dodgin wrote: DRG must feel like absolute shit for losing to Effort when not long ago he was untouchable at the mlg spring championship
On the scale of gut punch losses, it isn't that bad.
I would rank it below getting 3-0'ed by MC and then losing in the ace match of the semifinals in GSTL, losing any chance at all of going home to represent his city. I would rank it above losing to Hero at IPL Car Show Thingy and Polt during WCG Qualifiers.
On August 16 2012 09:23 GolemMadness wrote: Why are GOM players supposedly such emotional wrecks here? They're professional competitors. It seems rather ridiculous that every single of them so far has been unable to pull it together and play up to their calibre.
Same reason Tossgirl cried when she lost to Idra. GOM players have played for 2 years and every time one of the loses, they get flayed online by the Koreans and foreigners for losing to KeSPA players. Also I wouldn't be surprised if the coaches weren't heavily disappointed if one of their players lost to a guy with 90% less experience.
That was more a matter of national pride, though. Did Boxer fall apart when he played against a 15-year-old Flash?
those are his younger peers coming up through the system
the KeSPA-Gom dynamic is more... complex
Agree also though there is no game for an older player to lose to an younger player that's how things are .
On August 16 2012 09:50 Dodgin wrote: DRG must feel like absolute shit for losing to Effort when not long ago he was untouchable at the mlg spring championship
On the scale of gut punch losses, it isn't that bad.
I would rank it below getting 3-0'ed by MC and then losing in the ace match of the semifinals in GSTL, losing any chance at all of going home to represent his city. I would rank it above losing to Hero at IPL Car Show Thingy and Polt during WCG Qualifiers.
I suppose It's not as bad because DRG was already slumping before the series even started, imagine if he will still at the top of his game and just won the previous GSL and then lost to effort in WCS.
Haha better rune setups for sivir xD (for those who don't know it's a reference to League of Legends, the game that progamers play when they don't want to practice )
Is the whole Heads - Tails prediction a joke because it's PvP and is coinflippy? And if it is, where's the score
On August 16 2012 09:23 GolemMadness wrote: Why are GOM players supposedly such emotional wrecks here? They're professional competitors. It seems rather ridiculous that every single of them so far has been unable to pull it together and play up to their calibre.
Same reason Tossgirl cried when she lost to Idra. GOM players have played for 2 years and every time one of the loses, they get flayed online by the Koreans and foreigners for losing to KeSPA players. Also I wouldn't be surprised if the coaches weren't heavily disappointed if one of their players lost to a guy with 90% less experience.
That was more a matter of national pride, though. Did Boxer fall apart when he played against a 15-year-old Flash?
Not everyone has the heart and mind of a champion. Even some champions.
And the point isn't that EVERY single gom player has become a basketcase of nerves. Just that it's very obvious some have. Yugioh for example is known to have the skill of a near-top zerg, but looked so bad in his WCS games. The number of professional competitors that are unable to play up to their calibre overall in sc2 based on certain psychological factors is probably pretty high if you look at each player individually.
On August 16 2012 09:50 Dodgin wrote: DRG must feel like absolute shit for losing to Effort when not long ago he was untouchable at the mlg spring championship
On the scale of gut punch losses, it isn't that bad.
I would rank it below getting 3-0'ed by MC and then losing in the ace match of the semifinals in GSTL, losing any chance at all of going home to represent his city. I would rank it above losing to Hero at IPL Car Show Thingy and Polt during WCG Qualifiers.
This is my order for "gut punch losses" - based on what actually happened in the games as well as the context.
Losing to Leenock in the ace-match (because he already lost the semi's to MC, so this was his last hope. Also, his team was leading something like 3-1 and they still ended up losing)
Losing to MC 3-0 (obvious)
Losing to EffOrt (Although EffOrt does have pretty damn good ZvZ, I think it's the fact that he's a KeSPA player as well as the fact that DRG has already been losing for a while now makes it worse for him. Also, the fact that he had to play on such an outdated (or at least uncomfortable for his macro style where he probably felt confident in beating EffOrt) map in the 3rd game could make him angry -- Just like game 1 vs. MC or the team league match vs. FXO, DRG feels like he should've won but didn't.
Losing to Polt during WCG
Losing to HerO at that iPL thing (this is least and polt is 2nd to least just because it's not like he was losing before this, so it just looked like a "oh i lost" kind of thing not "OMG WHY CAN'T I WON ANYMORE?!)
About DRG, I don't think he is slumping. Even if you look at the best zvz he has played, he has never experienced such 20mins intensive zergling-baneling crossfire. Actually, I do believe that is the best micro he can do. He did what a human could do but effort acted like a MACHINE.
About Kespa VS GSL, I don't think the psychological burden play that much important place. For example, when I played with a plantium player my decision-making, my macro were extremely good. But when I played with a master player, everything looks bad. I believe the reason why GSL player are disappointing is because the pressure Kespa Players give them in game is too strong, which make GSL players seems to be noob. Actually the Kespa players are too good.
On August 16 2012 10:32 niukasu1990 wrote: About DRG, I don't think he is slumping. Even if you look at the best zvz he has played, he has never experienced such 20mins intensive zergling-baneling crossfire. Actually, I do believe that is the best micro he can do. He did what a human could do but effort acted like a MACHINE.
About Kespa VS GSL, I don't think the psychological burden play that much important place. For example, when I played with a plantium player my decision-making, my macro were extremely good. But when I played with a master player, everything looks bad. I believe the reason why GSL player are disappointing is because the pressure Kespa Players give them in game is too strong, which make GSL players seems to be noob. Actually the Kespa players are too good.
Good post, I pretty much agree with this. It makes me laugh to still see TL writers talk about slumps or psychological blunders etc.. to explain the results. They either forget or do not know that being a Kespa A teamer (for 2007 and onwards) means being a machine.
All the GOM players playing pacman against Kespa players like Jaedong or Effort or even Soulkey, should feel honored.
On August 16 2012 09:19 phyren wrote: You know, I like these write ups and reviews and such, but they could do with a little bit of a coser look in the editing phase. I imagine the frequency with which tey have to be put out makes the difficult.
Anyway, as to the games: when does this sense of extreme nervousness vs kespa players end? Several players have mentioned it in their interviews, but what will it take before the kespa players don't inspire bad play in their opponents? Maybe Genius is it, but honestly the zvp performances in kespa matches makes me think genius should have this regardless.
Can you explain what is wrong with the article that it needs more editing so they know what to work on? Also... it's a bit hard to take you seriously with so many typos in your own post
On August 16 2012 10:32 niukasu1990 wrote: About DRG, I don't think he is slumping. Even if you look at the best zvz he has played, he has never experienced such 20mins intensive zergling-baneling crossfire. Actually, I do believe that is the best micro he can do. He did what a human could do but effort acted like a MACHINE.
About Kespa VS GSL, I don't think the psychological burden play that much important place. For example, when I played with a plantium player my decision-making, my macro were extremely good. But when I played with a master player, everything looks bad. I believe the reason why GSL player are disappointing is because the pressure Kespa Players give them in game is too strong, which make GSL players seems to be noob. Actually the Kespa players are too good.
Coca made tons of blunders. YuGiOh played like crap against Reality and Fero.
The most impressive KeSPA players so far have been Soulkey and Effort, no question.
On August 16 2012 10:32 niukasu1990 wrote: About DRG, I don't think he is slumping. Even if you look at the best zvz he has played, he has never experienced such 20mins intensive zergling-baneling crossfire. Actually, I do believe that is the best micro he can do. He did what a human could do but effort acted like a MACHINE.
About Kespa VS GSL, I don't think the psychological burden play that much important place. For example, when I played with a plantium player my decision-making, my macro were extremely good. But when I played with a master player, everything looks bad. I believe the reason why GSL player are disappointing is because the pressure Kespa Players give them in game is too strong, which make GSL players seems to be noob. Actually the Kespa players are too good.
Coca made tons of blunders. YuGiOh played like crap against Reality and Fero.
The most impressive KeSPA players so far have been Soulkey and Effort, no question.
That is my point. I played like crap against a master player. No player is good enough to make no mistake. A good player will catch the opponent's mistake and make his/her opponent's like a crap but a bad player will skip it. When MKP vs Yugioh in ODT, yugioh late game play like crap too.
It is not fair to say that everytime Kespa's winnings are because of GSL player slumping. It is Kespa's players skill make GSL player like a crap. It is the same when the very top GSL players win Kespa's players and say it is because Kespa's players are slumping.
Obviously, Kespa Player still has a large gap between the very top player like DRG. But at particular matchup like zvz, they are the best of the world now. In addition, zvz is one of the least volatile matchup, a player like effort and DRG with that amazing micro can easily win a game in zergling-baneling play.
I would say the best player in Kespa actually is trap or rain but actually they are at most Code S Ro16 level. (effort zvp is crap of the crap)
On August 16 2012 10:32 niukasu1990 wrote: About DRG, I don't think he is slumping. Even if you look at the best zvz he has played, he has never experienced such 20mins intensive zergling-baneling crossfire. Actually, I do believe that is the best micro he can do. He did what a human could do but effort acted like a MACHINE.
About Kespa VS GSL, I don't think the psychological burden play that much important place. For example, when I played with a plantium player my decision-making, my macro were extremely good. But when I played with a master player, everything looks bad. I believe the reason why GSL player are disappointing is because the pressure Kespa Players give them in game is too strong, which make GSL players seems to be noob. Actually the Kespa players are too good.
Coca made tons of blunders. YuGiOh played like crap against Reality and Fero.
The most impressive KeSPA players so far have been Soulkey and Effort, no question.
That is my point. I played like crap against a master player. No player is good enough to make no mistake. A good player will catch the opponent's mistake and make his/her opponent's like a crap but a bad player will skip it. When MKP vs Yugioh in ODT, yugioh late game play like crap too.
It is not fair to say that everytime Kespa's winnings are because of GSL player slumping. It is Kespa's players skill make GSL player like a crap. It is the same when the very top GSL players win Kespa's players and say it is because Kespa's players are slumping.
Obviously, Kespa Player still has a large gap between the very top player like DRG. But at particular matchup like zvz, they are the best of the world now. In addition, zvz is one of the least volatile matchup, a player like effort and DRG with that amazing micro can easily win a game in zergling-baneling play.
I would say the best player in Kespa actually is trap or rain but actually they are at most Code S Ro16 level. (effort zvp is crap of the crap)
On August 16 2012 10:32 niukasu1990 wrote: About DRG, I don't think he is slumping. Even if you look at the best zvz he has played, he has never experienced such 20mins intensive zergling-baneling crossfire. Actually, I do believe that is the best micro he can do. He did what a human could do but effort acted like a MACHINE.
About Kespa VS GSL, I don't think the psychological burden play that much important place. For example, when I played with a plantium player my decision-making, my macro were extremely good. But when I played with a master player, everything looks bad. I believe the reason why GSL player are disappointing is because the pressure Kespa Players give them in game is too strong, which make GSL players seems to be noob. Actually the Kespa players are too good.
Coca made tons of blunders. YuGiOh played like crap against Reality and Fero.
The most impressive KeSPA players so far have been Soulkey and Effort, no question.
That is my point. I played like crap against a master player. No player is good enough to make no mistake. A good player will catch the opponent's mistake and make his/her opponent's like a crap but a bad player will skip it. When MKP vs Yugioh in ODT, yugioh late game play like crap too.
It is not fair to say that everytime Kespa's winnings are because of GSL player slumping. It is Kespa's players skill make GSL player like a crap. It is the same when the very top GSL players win Kespa's players and say it is because Kespa's players are slumping.
Obviously, Kespa Player still has a large gap between the very top player like DRG. But at particular matchup like zvz, they are the best of the world now. In addition, zvz is one of the least volatile matchup, a player like effort and DRG with that amazing micro can easily win a game in zergling-baneling play.
I would say the best player in Kespa actually is trap or rain but actually they are at most Code S Ro16 level. (effort zvp is crap of the crap)
Hm , yesterday I was able to watch WCS for the first time, so I cant compare those games to the other games already played. In my opinion though, Horror vs Sun were very good /enterteining matches :/, not sure why Wax made them look so bad.
On August 16 2012 10:32 niukasu1990 wrote: About DRG, I don't think he is slumping. Even if you look at the best zvz he has played, he has never experienced such 20mins intensive zergling-baneling crossfire. Actually, I do believe that is the best micro he can do. He did what a human could do but effort acted like a MACHINE.
About Kespa VS GSL, I don't think the psychological burden play that much important place. For example, when I played with a plantium player my decision-making, my macro were extremely good. But when I played with a master player, everything looks bad. I believe the reason why GSL player are disappointing is because the pressure Kespa Players give them in game is too strong, which make GSL players seems to be noob. Actually the Kespa players are too good.
drg use to be an absolute master of ling bane. Him getting an advantage and then throwing away a game is not a sign of drg playing to the standard we've come to expect.
On August 16 2012 10:32 niukasu1990 wrote: About DRG, I don't think he is slumping. Even if you look at the best zvz he has played, he has never experienced such 20mins intensive zergling-baneling crossfire. Actually, I do believe that is the best micro he can do. He did what a human could do but effort acted like a MACHINE.
About Kespa VS GSL, I don't think the psychological burden play that much important place. For example, when I played with a plantium player my decision-making, my macro were extremely good. But when I played with a master player, everything looks bad. I believe the reason why GSL player are disappointing is because the pressure Kespa Players give them in game is too strong, which make GSL players seems to be noob. Actually the Kespa players are too good.
drg use to be an absolute master of ling bane. Him getting an advantage and then throwing away a game is not a sign of drg playing to the standard we've come to expect.
That is a 20MINUTE intensive zvz, and effort is the strongest man in zvz,what DRG had not experienced. He used to be perfect in 10 Minute does not mean that he can be perfect in 20minute
This article was dodgeing the Hero/hero naming issue but I have a suggestion:
My stomach always cringes when I see "fake hero" or fero because he's clearly not faking the nickname. Foxer was great for MarineKing because he was clearly faking the name of one of his idols but I doubt thats the case here.
So how can we distinguish the heros? For example liquid Hero is written uppercase and cj hero is lowercase. Back in the days (at least in counterstrike) we used the "mini" tag: Liquid Hero can stay "Hero", CJ hero becomes mini-hero.
I don't how we mix the T8 hero into this - maybe hero2 or "hero II" because his name reads like Jo "hero" Il Jang?
On August 16 2012 10:32 niukasu1990 wrote: About DRG, I don't think he is slumping. Even if you look at the best zvz he has played, he has never experienced such 20mins intensive zergling-baneling crossfire. Actually, I do believe that is the best micro he can do. He did what a human could do but effort acted like a MACHINE.
About Kespa VS GSL, I don't think the psychological burden play that much important place. For example, when I played with a plantium player my decision-making, my macro were extremely good. But when I played with a master player, everything looks bad. I believe the reason why GSL player are disappointing is because the pressure Kespa Players give them in game is too strong, which make GSL players seems to be noob. Actually the Kespa players are too good.
drg use to be an absolute master of ling bane. Him getting an advantage and then throwing away a game is not a sign of drg playing to the standard we've come to expect.
That is a 20MINUTE intensive zvz, and effort is the strongest man in zvz,what DRG had not experienced. He used to be perfect in 10 Minute does not mean that he can be perfect in 20minute
At 7 minutes into the game drg killed both of efforts queens and had more drones and lings. If he was playing at the standard he used to set he would have absolutely won that game.
DRG losing to Effort - even assuming the latter's early game micro is superior, is still a failure on DRG's part for not using his experience to just skip the early game.
On August 16 2012 17:29 Grumbels wrote: DRG losing to Effort - even assuming the latter's early game micro is superior, is still a failure on DRG's part for not using his experience to just skip the early game.
Because he wanted to KILL effort, and if he was superior in micro he would do this. Its pretty simple, you kill crippled opponents and efforts godly defense and simcity turned the tide away. Such things are possible even in SC2...
On August 16 2012 17:29 Grumbels wrote: DRG losing to Effort - even assuming the latter's early game micro is superior, is still a failure on DRG's part for not using his experience to just skip the early game.
Because he wanted to KILL effort, and if he was superior in micro he would do this. Its pretty simple, you kill crippled opponents and efforts godly defense and simcity turned the tide away. Such things are possible even in SC2...
So you're saying that drg when playing properly suicides banelings into queens?
On August 16 2012 17:11 shin ken wrote: This article was dodgeing the Hero/hero naming issue but I have a suggestion:
My stomach always cringes when I see "fake hero" or fero because he's clearly not faking the nickname. Foxer was great for MarineKing because he was clearly faking the name of one of his idols but I doubt thats the case here.
So how can we distinguish the heros? For example liquid Hero is written uppercase and cj hero is lowercase. Back in the days (at least in counterstrike) we used the "mini" tag: Liquid Hero can stay "Hero", CJ hero becomes mini-hero.
I don't how we mix the T8 hero into this - maybe hero2 or "hero II" because his name reads like Jo "hero" Il Jang?
Just call them by their full ID .. Liquid'Hero, herO[jOin]/CJherO, by.hero/T8hero.
Or nicknames work I guess. I nominate herO[jOin] to be shortened to herOin
On August 16 2012 09:23 GolemMadness wrote: Why are GOM players supposedly such emotional wrecks here? They're professional competitors. It seems rather ridiculous that every single of them so far has been unable to pull it together and play up to their calibre.
Same reason Tossgirl cried when she lost to Idra. GOM players have played for 2 years and every time one of the loses, they get flayed online by the Koreans and foreigners for losing to KeSPA players. Also I wouldn't be surprised if the coaches weren't heavily disappointed if one of their players lost to a guy with 90% less experience.
Or maybe there is just a massive gap in skill and talent?
On August 16 2012 09:23 GolemMadness wrote: Why are GOM players supposedly such emotional wrecks here? They're professional competitors. It seems rather ridiculous that every single of them so far has been unable to pull it together and play up to their calibre.
Same reason Tossgirl cried when she lost to Idra. GOM players have played for 2 years and every time one of the loses, they get flayed online by the Koreans and foreigners for losing to KeSPA players. Also I wouldn't be surprised if the coaches weren't heavily disappointed if one of their players lost to a guy with 90% less experience.
Or maybe there is just a massive gap in skill and talent?
Just ridiculous... People are saying that they need about 1 year to be as good as current GOM players, but look at this, in just few months, they are on par with Code A players, simply amazing!
I can't wait for HOTS and to see what strategies will they come up with, the KeSPA vs. GOM fight will be amazing!
A lot of the top GOM players were former BW B-teamers who played well in practice but have nerve issues in front of a TV camera. It's not much of an issue when they are facing each other but many are pretty much wilting when faced with a steely competitor who doesn't care much for the camera.
When a Kespa players goes up against Seed, Taeja or Polt or any other player of the highest caliber then we will see who the best Kespa players. Not that these GomTV players aren't great, but with MC and Nestea out they really aren't going up against the best GomTV has to offer.
That is such a well written article. I may not be a native speaker but I definitely can appreciate that at least to some extent. There is a clear structure and flow, and diversity of form. Talking about so many matchups should lead to some repetitiveness, but this article doesn't fall into that trap at all. Great Job
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