EPT"Liquid Rising" Documentary - Page 20
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On June 23 2012 06:18 TheHova wrote: I kinda agree with that, but i feel it's because they do genuinely feel the players they have on their team are capable of being one of the best players in the world if it was wasn't for ______. Thus the reason they are on the team in the first place. I don't think it was to purposely create hyperbole although when watching it from a neutral perspective it seems that way. It was really well made, i didn't learn a great deal that i didn't already know but i think for people who don't follow esports almost religiously but still share a passion for it, it is a great watch. I have no regrets donating my money towards it before watching at least because i feel this sort of content should be encouraged and i'm a big believer in offering things for free with the option for you to pay what you feel the product is worth. totally agree | ||
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Adding the tidbit in near the end with HuK and his transfer to Evil Geniuses was deserved because he had accomplished so much for the team at the end of his run with Liquid, it felt for many fans and supporters, including myself, that HuK's departure left a void in Liquid at the time. I'm glad to see that Liquid shows so much support for him still and I'm glad he, TLO, Jinro, and Haypro will still be living in the same house together in Korea. The soundtrack was absolutely fantastic and the documentary did exactly what I expected, I love Team Liquid even more now and jumped for joy when NonY's part came up about an hour into the video. TLO was hilarious and I've gained a huge liking to him, and Nazgul as well for putting everything together. Bottom Line: I wouldn't say it's better than something like Indie Game: The Movie, which I thought was incredible and perfectly put together and it didn't have that personal feel to it like Mike Ross's Focus documentary, but the production team should be very proud of this because I believe this is still the best Starcraft documentary to date. (Still waiting on Sons of Starcraft and Good Game to come out too!) | ||
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On June 23 2012 06:17 cavalier117 wrote: i feel like i can echo this alot. i enjoyed the movie, but as someone seriously follows starcraft, there wasnt much here. the story of TLO getting his handle was great as well the Hotbid slapping story. but Fishuu's art made up a good portion of that as well. but other than that, not much. in truth, i enjoyed listening to Nazghoul talk the most because it was new and insightful, and coming from someone we dont actually hear talk ever. the four main things i took away from this; 1: Nazghoul is probably the most interesting and underrated person in e-sports 2: This movie reminded why i enjoyed TL as a team, and forgot about the growing shortcomings of the community 3: Hero talks painfully slow. seriously one line of subtitles would take 15-20 seconds. i wanted to just fast forward ahead everytime he came on because i would read the subtitles before his face would appear on screen half the time. 4: just dont really like TLO overall, a good movie, but i doubt i need to watch it again. Did I read number 4 right? How could anyone NOT like TLO. He's probably the most likeable person in E-sports! Edit: Aside from Day9 of course. | ||
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btw: how long will the paypal be up , now im sadly broke ,but when my paycheck arrives , TAKE ALL MY MONEYZ | ||
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 Thanks TL for everything. | ||
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6d.Leek
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On June 23 2012 05:59 theBOOCH wrote: I enjoyed watching it as a fan, but from a film standpoint, that wasn't a great documentary. It didn't really have any information that would be useful for a non-starcraft/TL fan, and it didn't have very much new or interesting information on TL or the players either for those of us who follow the scene. Production value wasn't poor, but there wasn't any real visual interest and the music chosen was pretty cheesy. I would rather have seen an "outsider's" perspective on TL and the SC2 scene in general, and sort of an artistic take on what it means to be a progamer. I would like to see some depth I guess. As it is, it was just a bunch of interviews with TL guys. We see those all the time, bring us something new :/ As far as documentaries go, it doesn't have a lot of value. As far as TL propaganda goes, it's not that great either. I can only really see this being important to someone who is new to the scene, but already an interested part of it, who wants a quick refresher course on Team Liquid. You have to understand that every documentary has to have a scope of production, a purpose, an audience, and a time frame to film, so just because one documentary may deal in the realm of SC2 eSports does not necessarily mean it has to target an extremely wide audience and show the world the reasons why eSports has cultivated the following it has. You seem to be dissatisfied with the documentary but I really doubt you ever once reflected and wondered why on earth this thing was produced in the first place. "Artistic take" of a progamer? Outside perspective? This documentary was never supposed to leave the eSports sphere and I don't really understand why you felt it needed to. Did it need to be groundbreaking? Absolutely not and you are foolish to think that in the budding stages of eSports that some monumental statement can be made in just 90 minutes of screen time. I can agree with you it was laid out quite simply at times and maybe the vision maybe wasn't as developed as it could be, but it did accomplish some key tasks: 1. It characterized teamliquid on a much more personal level, showcasing the dynamics of the inter-team relationship as well as the personalities, motivations, and insights of players, owners, etc. This cultivates the image, it works well for the team in gathering sponsorships; you get the idea. 2. It is a reminder to EVERY spectator in eSports that behind every name on a screen/on a forum/in a video is a person. Criticism, negativity, and uncontrolled emotions are a staple to the online community and are extremely petty. No spectator or self-implied critic can rightfully criticize any of these fine individuals. They deal with depression, confusion, sadness, just as you and I do. Without a doubt all players have cultivated a public personality but fundamentally they all struggle to understand humanity. To insult them for not posting results, to criticize their play style or personality based on such limited content provided by streams and tournaments is completely unfair. This doesn't just apply for TL players either. It's extremely easy to type up a half-hearted paragraph of criticisms using only a limited perception of what you believe in a nutshell is eSports, but it's extremely difficult to say something meaningful or derive value from a scandal, a BO3, or a documentary--which you so readily dismissed--that tries to show the legitimacy, the staying power of TL and eSports. | ||
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