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Goatlust88
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia69 Posts
November 15 2011 07:41 GMT
#61
You guys knocked this one right out of the park. One of (if not) the best SC2 articles so far.
Cuddle
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1345 Posts
November 15 2011 07:41 GMT
#62
Great article! We all needed the hope sooo badly. All future tournaments are so much more exciting because of the October Revolution.
DrZz
Profile Joined May 2011
Romania70 Posts
November 15 2011 07:45 GMT
#63
This article gives one faith, thans!
Evolve, and let the chips fall where they may
MythSC
Profile Joined August 2010
13 Posts
November 15 2011 07:48 GMT
#64
Absolutely amazing article, great job!
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
November 15 2011 07:49 GMT
#65
I'm disappointed you interviewed Idra, Huk and Stephano yet didn't include any quotes from them into your article.
LXR
Profile Joined June 2011
357 Posts
November 15 2011 07:49 GMT
#66
Your post does say that practice is not necessary, and I agree. However, good practice never hurts, so I don't see players slowing down their practice any time soon.
nallard
Profile Joined November 2011
10 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-15 07:51:23
November 15 2011 07:50 GMT
#67
Thank you for the work and thought that you clearly put into this article. As heyoka says there are lots of things to discuss.

With all do respect, concluding that psychology plays a major role in performance at the level these guys are playing doesn't seem like much of a revelation. Any athlete or coach could tell you the same. Believing you can beat someone is an essential part of actually doing so.

One thing the Koreans seem to have that is very likely a product of the discipline and level of training, is consistency. You mention Huk winning MLG Orlando and IdrA placing 4th, but Koreans took 2nd, 3rd, and 5th through 8th. At Blizzcon MVP and Nestea put on a pretty convincing show and Select was only knocked out by consecutive losses to Nestea and Sen (the 3rd place finisher). At IPL, Stephano took first, but again Koreans took 2nd, 3rd, and 4th. IdrA looked impressive in his IEM win, but I don't think that many people would argue that the Koreans who were taking part in that tournament were of the caliber of MVP or Nestea. And at Dreamhack, again the Koreans swept up the rest of the money spots.

The Koreans may not have taken first in the tournaments you mention in your article, but their results certainly seem consistently dominant. IdrA has had recent success, but he is the poster child for inconsistency. Huk's performance at Asus ROG may be an indication that he is wearing himself a little thin. His Code S Ro 16 performance will be a good test of just where he stands. And I'm not sure that Stephano has enough big tournaments under his belt yet to bring him into the conversation. Once people start preparing for him a little more, his 4 hour practice regimen may not seem like such a great idea after all.

Koreans are not inherently more skillful at SC2 than foreigners so it's not really a surprise that some exceptionally skillful players like Huk and IdrA have posted wins. What remains to be seen is if the foreign SC2 players and teams can bring in the kinds of consistent results that the Koreans do.

Also a small technical quibble...the October Revolution was the Russian revolution that brought the communists to power rather than the painting of the French Revolution you have altered.
itkovian
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1763 Posts
November 15 2011 07:50 GMT
#68
+ Show Spoiler +
Teh boobz
>.>
<.<


Nice write up!
I feel like your point is spot on, that how well you do in SC2 is a direct result of how you approach the game mentally. Just because you practice in korean and live in a team house doesn't mean you're going to be given some inherent advantage. It depends mostly on what you seek to gain from your practice and how confident you are in your abilities.

It will be interesting to see how Tyler does in the upcoming tournaments. He seems to be the type of guy that when he sets his mind to something he will achieve it. And much like you've pointed out with this topic, when you have that kind of mentality you don't need a training house to get good results. If Tyler's been working hard, and from what I've heard he has, he should be able to live up to your model of confidence and mentality being the key to success. And obviously, since he doesn't live in a team house, he will be a good measure of your theory.
=)=
ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
November 15 2011 07:51 GMT
#69
this is so fucking good.
Artosis : Clide. idrA : Shut up.
TheMag
Profile Joined April 2011
Romania43 Posts
November 15 2011 07:53 GMT
#70
Just because u spend 10 h a day playing doesn t make u better, of course ur mechanics and build ghet better but after a time all top players will have great macro and micro then the importance of the mind set and playng the map rather then the mach up will matter most like in bw.
up up
Fighter
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1531 Posts
November 15 2011 07:53 GMT
#71
The image of IdrA playing whack-a-mole actually made me giggle lol
For Aiur???
Kybuar
Profile Joined September 2010
United States93 Posts
November 15 2011 07:54 GMT
#72
This article actually inspired me. It was a great read, and your perspective of the different ways to train is what I needed. My goal is to hit Mid-High Master League for a school project, right now at Platinum League. I have been at a slump, and my mentality is just all wrong. Of course I will not be like the pro players, but I think this will help me break through Masters, if not that Diamond.
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
November 15 2011 07:56 GMT
#73
Lovely article, must get my hands on the damn EG book :D
Useless wet fish.
eljezuz
Profile Joined August 2011
Mexico33 Posts
November 15 2011 07:57 GMT
#74
wow, what an amazing article! you have very good writing skills!!
... Top 3 Control!!!
Mataru
Profile Joined June 2010
Norway356 Posts
November 15 2011 07:58 GMT
#75
Excellent article, awesome pictures. This just made me that much more hyped for Providence!
Proud citizen of ESPORTS
Tortious_Tortoise
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States944 Posts
November 15 2011 07:58 GMT
#76
I have only two things to say:

1. One day more. Another day another destiny-- this never-ending road to Calvary. Tomorrow is the judgement day. Tomorrow we'll discover what our God in Heaven has in store-- one more dawn, one more day-- one day more.
2. Do you hear the people sing, singing the songs of angry men? It is the music of a people who will not be slaves again. When the beating of your heart echoes the beating of the drum, there is a life about to start when tomorrow comes.

Fly the flag of freedom, foreigners. Fly it proudly, and let its light burst through the darkness of uncertainty like a comet streaming through a starless night.
Treating eSports as a social science since 2011; Credo: "The system is never wrong"-- Day9 Daily #400 Part 3
derElbe
Profile Joined February 2009
Germany571 Posts
November 15 2011 07:59 GMT
#77
nice artwork.
can't agree 100% on the things said, but it's good to see others views.
Hoejja - Bisu - Leenock - TLO
how2TL
Profile Joined August 2010
1197 Posts
November 15 2011 08:03 GMT
#78
I could not disagree more with this article. Telling foreigners that they don't need more practice is the wrong advice. Unless you're naturally predisposed to play this game, you need more practice, period.

Pointing out what you consider exceptions is pointless when the vast majority of foreigners just don't practice enough. And when they do practice, if they're not practicing seriously in a focused way, it's also useless.

I don't see any up and coming Koreans playing Skyrim anyway...
Adventurekid
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Sweden505 Posts
November 15 2011 08:05 GMT
#79
Awesome thread, thanks :D!
You should build a turtle fence!
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-15 08:14:30
November 15 2011 08:13 GMT
#80
On November 15 2011 17:03 how2TL wrote:
I could not disagree more with this article. Telling foreigners that they don't need more practice is the wrong advice. Unless you're naturally predisposed to play this game, you need more practice, period.

Pointing out what you consider exceptions is pointless when the vast majority of foreigners just don't practice enough. And when they do practice, if they're not practicing seriously in a focused way, it's also useless.

I don't see any up and coming Koreans playing Skyrim anyway...


That's because they don't stream it...

I've read both Jinro and Huk state that they play other things as well in the oGs house. That's like saying an up and coming athlete never do anything else than train his sport. Yeah... no.



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