EPT[NASL] The Verdict - Page 3
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Isaac
United States810 Posts
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emythrel
United Kingdom2599 Posts
On July 20 2011 06:08 omnomMuffins wrote: What you have to realize is the GSL has an amazing budget, years of experience and is run by a TV station. NASL is literally a start up, zero past experience and learn pretty fast on the fly. Three make up artists to cover two people seems slightly extravagant. Also remember that the first few seasons of GSL didn't go particularly smoothly either. The stream was laggy as hell, the production wasn't great and the games were flat out awful. All that from a TV channel with dare i say 1000 times more experience and money behind them. | ||
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bigbeau
368 Posts
On July 20 2011 06:08 omnomMuffins wrote: What you have to realize is the GSL has an amazing budget, years of experience and is run by a TV station. NASL is literally a start up, zero past experience and learn pretty fast on the fly. Three make up artists to cover two people seems slightly extravagant. Then don't hype it up and lie and say it's going to be amazing and don't charge people to watch VODs and HQ streams. For example this: http://i.imgur.com/lW8vm.png That's bullshit, imo. | ||
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Malgrif
Canada1095 Posts
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425kid
416 Posts
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ComusLoM
Norway3547 Posts
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Sv1
United States204 Posts
But because the packaging of your product is so important in planning and execution, I think NASL should have maybe pared off a little off the prize purse in order to spend a little more in the experience department. This product could be delivered to the audience at a cost to both the audience and the provider (e.g. NASL/GSL, any other pay-per-view entertainment) or the product could be delivered just simply at the cost of a provider but in the hopes of generating profits (e.g. superbowl commercials, broadcast advertising in general). In either case, you want the "package" to be robust enough that not only it will give people they are getting what their moneys worth, but you also need to keep sponsors happy. It's a pretty simple concept that the more polished and refined your product is, the better it will sell and the more attractive it will look to both consumers and sponsors. Seeing as how without sponsors professional gaming would be dead in its tracks. The more notoriety you get for your product the better the outcome for everyone. On air personalities, presentation, video segments and montages DO make a difference. They weave storylines (elective affinity) which allow people to become more engaged in what they are about to watch, have you ever seen a movie without even seeing a trailer of any kind? As far as on-air personalities are concerned, I don't agree that it's ok to have some freewheeling announcer who is making wisecracks constantly or being off-base with comments (Jason Bateman in Dodgeball). I think anyone who says that this is ok is both naive and immature. Unfortunately it's hard to look at pro video games because the content is already received as juvenile and the community is made up of tweens, teens, and manchildren, but I think over time this will change as audiences get older. At the end of the day, your on-air personalities are part of your package and you don't want them to polarize your audience because that's both traffic and revenue you may be alienating. I can remember a lot of discussions on SOTG with Incontrol defending NASL's problems with a naivete of someone who just simply didn't yet have the experience of what this industry was. I'll recall the Seinfeld episode in which Jerry and George discuss George's future jobs: + Show Spoiler + GEORGE: I like sports. I could do something in sports. JERRY: Uh-huh. Uh-huh. In what capacity? GEORGE: You know, like the general manager of a baseball team or something. JERRY: Yeah. Well, that - that could be tough to get. GEORGE: Well, it doesn't even have to be the general manager. Maybe I could be like, an announcer. Like a caller man. You know how I always make those interesting comments during the game. JERRY: Yeah. Yeah. You make good comments. GEORGE: What about that? JERRY: Well, they tend to give those jobs to ex-ballplayers and people that are, you know, in broadcasting. GEORGE: Well, that's really not fair. As time went on I saw his arguments becoming a little more mature as he finally understood what is required of someone in that position. Those things are important and to circle back to my main point, keeping both your audience and sponsors happy are what your business essentially is. The bit about the website is a perfect example that goes beyond just the website. It's an organization and presentation of information, how you present information on screen both visually and audibly is what you are delivering to an audience. I think this recap is good, I think the fact that he NASL was so ambitious was part of its problem. After a while I just simply stopped following until the season was winding down. This was essentially the MLB of starcraft. Exciting opening day and May, then summer hits and no one cares until the playoff races. Best of luck to the NASL in the coming season, I think a lot of kinks are going to be ironed out. As an addendum of where I am coming from, I'm 3300pt Grandmaster in the advertising industry with experience in broadcast, I've worked on television shows (both live and pretaped) and have been in the industry for years now. If my younger-fresh-out-of-college self walked into my editing suite now, green with ideas and romanticized views of the industry I would have a very long sit down with him as I do any interns I ever have to work with. And that's what I think the NASL is, the new kid on the block, or the guy in his first year at a new job, after interning in a similar field for 3 months and ready to gnaw off a piece of the acton. | ||
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Primadog
United States4411 Posts
On July 20 2011 06:12 Isaac wrote: so whitera go back to europe then come back to america a week later. is this normal practice? White-Ra will be in the East Coast to spent time with his family and friends until MLG Anaheim. | ||
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Laneir
United States1160 Posts
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StyLeD
United States2965 Posts
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fusefuse
Estonia4644 Posts
kudos to all the writers and everyone involved and the white-ra vid at the end was just the perfect icing for the article! ^___^ esports hwaiting | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On July 20 2011 06:28 StyLeD wrote: It's actually quite disrespectful for WhiteRa to be blatantly texting/using his phone during an interview...I know the community loves him and I do to, but the picture seems wrong to me. white-ra's a multitasker man | ||
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ELA
Denmark4608 Posts
On July 20 2011 06:28 StyLeD wrote: It's actually quite disrespectful for WhiteRa to be blatantly texting/using his phone during an interview...I know the community loves him and I do to, but the picture seems wrong to me. To me, it dosn't seem like he's not noticing that he's being filmed - The videocamera seems to be just lying on the table? | ||
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AxelTVx
Canada916 Posts
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haegN
Norway540 Posts
With our continued devotion it will happen. Also. I don't know why Time has not nominated Day(9) as the 100 most important persons, because he is very important for me, and I KNOW he is important for a lot of other people as well!! <3 to the community, GREAT writeup. Seeing HuK win dreamhack, MC vs Puma, Ive never had that feeling since Manchester United - Bayern München in 1999. | ||
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LanTAs
United States1091 Posts
On July 20 2011 05:32 tkRage wrote: longest write-up ever O.O  have you seen the writeups form 04? i think they are just about as long :0great write up :D i liked all the White.Ra parts >=D and yeah, the Audio was just plain terrible for 30% of the time | ||
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PcH
United States83 Posts
The "complaining" JTV chat made so many valid points. A lot of paying customers said they weren't going to spend money on a season 2 pass because of overall poor organization, wtf video production, and the the long (well over 1 hour) delay for the tournament to start. No official statement, aside from JTV chat mods, was made on the website or easily visible location. Announcing the delay reasons (projector) in the JTV was a horrible idea because of how active it is and people will just miss it. I await my warning for this post. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Archas
United States6531 Posts
On July 20 2011 06:39 PcH wrote: Is this NASL verdict serious? The only main "ugly" things mentioned were poor audio (agreed), long time (agreed), and the JTV complaining chat? The "complaining" JTV chat made so many valid points. A lot of paying customers said they weren't going to spend money on a season 2 pass because of overall poor organization, wtf video production, and the the long (well over 1 hour) delay for the tournament to start. No official statement, aside from JTV chat mods, was made on the website or easily visible location. Announcing the delay reasons (projector) in the JTV was a horrible idea because of how active it is and people will just miss it. I await my warning for this post. You know, your post would have been completely fine if you hadn't put in that last sentence. >_> | ||
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xXFireandIceXx
Canada4296 Posts
On July 20 2011 06:39 PcH wrote: Is this NASL verdict serious? The only main "ugly" things mentioned were poor audio (agreed), long time (agreed), and the JTV complaining chat? The "complaining" JTV chat made so many valid points. A lot of paying customers said they weren't going to spend money on a season 2 pass because of overall poor organization, wtf video production, and the the long (well over 1 hour) delay for the tournament to start. No official statement, aside from JTV chat mods, was made on the website or easily visible location. Announcing the delay reasons (projector) in the JTV was a horrible idea because of how active it is and people will just miss it. I await my warning for this post. I don't think you're all that unreasonable. I mean, there were a lot of areas of improvement. Some of the glaring mistakes were rather large and I was pretty annoyed at the no-sound-at-all-interviews. But I think if we just take a step back, I think we can all just give NASL another chance. I mean, they deserve it. They did put quite some work into this and just completely dismissing them the very first time seems a bit premature. But you don't have to worry, if this happens in Season 2, it won't just be JTV's chat that will turn ugly. | ||
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
On July 20 2011 06:40 Aeres wrote: You know, your post would have been completely fine if you hadn't put in that last sentence. >_> Yeah, it's so face-palm worthy when people do that. I don't get it. | ||
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