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I watched the Grand Finals on the stream. The stream quality for me was excellent, better than most streams I’ve watched. I had recently gotten a new big-screen television and on it I was able to watch a crystal clear, lag-free 1080p stream of people milling around a convention center ballroom, interrupted occasionally by Starcraft matches and silent shots of interviewers trying to turn on microphones.
i don't know.... somebody else who has experienced something else?
the games were great.... BUT! just but......
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white-ra is so cool
Hope he does well in the next NASL and future tournaments.
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On July 20 2011 06:57 iNcontroL wrote:
absolutely stunning coverage. Ty so much to all that contributed... gretorp is dead-the-fuck-on btw.. he is a really smart dude. Hope he shines in season 2 even more cause he deserves it. One of the absolutely hardest working people in eSports.
<3
There is a huge contingent of SCII/NASL watchers hoping Gretop or someone who runs/staffs the NASL awakes to the fact that he is a distinctly bad caster, and finds someone less cringe-inducing for season 2.
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I know its that it's NASLs first time and all, but did they even look at what AWESOME tournaments (like Dreamhack Invitational) looked like before they started sketching on this? Compared to aforementioned tournament, NASL was a disaster and extremely poorly executed on every level. I felt embarrassed watching it.
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Without Day9, without Tasteless, without Artosis... this all were NOTHING. Just sayin... forgive me day9
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Such a awesome coverage! Really really great. Thanks! The gretorp interview was very cool. Smart guy he is! 
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On July 20 2011 07:39 The Void wrote:
Without Day9, without Tasteless, without Artosis... this all were NOTHING. Just sayin... forgive me day9
without the fans, the players, or TL, this is all NOTHING as well, so I fail to see your point. The "success" of NASL finals is more about E-SPORTS' unrelenting momentum than any particular person or organization's strengths or failings. That's the whole reason why this article's centerpiece is BarCraft rather than NASL - we are no longer basement dwelling nerds, we are suave sociable creatures whom also enjoys a little beer and game (of a different nature).
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I felt like tha NASL had some of the most dissappointing production value but the quality of the games in the final tourney days were insane. Very mixed feelings about the league
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Ho my god, White-Ra is such a baller.
I'm proud to state this in my 1000th post!
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For me, the greatest problem with NASL was the stream lagging in some regions through the season and specially in the finals (definitely wasn't an isolated problem, as several people reported the same kind of lag at the same times) and poor costumer support when dealing with those issues.
I could live with a bad stream for a good tournament if they promised to eventually fix things, but watching how they handled the many issues in this league just made me lose faith. The impression I had is that they have no clue on what they are doing as a professional business, even though they are good people with good intentions.
My verdict: skeptical and disappointed. It would take a MLG-esque comeback to make me buy another ticket, but I don't see it happening with their organization. Best of luck for them, though, the idea of an american based starleague has so much potential.
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On July 20 2011 07:43 WhiteDog wrote:
Ho my god, White-Ra is such a baller.
I'm proud to state this in my 1000th post!
High-5, me too (last Sunday)!
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Great writeup love the videos, White-ra's fave harry potter character lol!
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On July 20 2011 07:47 DontGiveUp wrote:
For me, the greatest problem with NASL was the stream lagging in some regions through the season and specially in the finals (definitely wasn't an isolated problem, as several people reported the same kind of lag at the same times) and poor costumer support when dealing with those issues.
I could live with a bad stream for a good tournament if they promised to eventually fix things, but watching how they handled the many issues in this league just made me lose faith. The impression I had is that they have no clue on what they are doing as a professional business, even though they are good people with good intentions.
My verdict: skeptical and disappointed. It would take a MLG-esque comeback to make me buy another ticket, but I don't see it happening with their organization. Best of luck for them, though, the idea of an american based starleague has so much potential.
I can't be sure, but I think that the stream lag was a regional justin.tv prob?
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despite the disaster that was Season 1 of NASL, i am optimistic for the future. NASL literally made all the mistakes possible short of burning down the studio, and i think all the criticism will act as huge motivation to improve things for the better the second time round. Have faith guys!
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My verdict: skeptical and disappointed. It would take a MLG-esque comeback to make me buy another ticket, but I don't see it happening with their organization. Best of luck for them, though, the idea of an american based starleague has so much potential. [/QUOTE]
I can't be sure, but I think that the stream lag was a regional justin.tv prob?[/QUOTE]
The stream lag was a constant problem all season and all championship tourney
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On July 20 2011 07:48 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2011 07:47 DontGiveUp wrote:
For me, the greatest problem with NASL was the stream lagging in some regions through the season and specially in the finals (definitely wasn't an isolated problem, as several people reported the same kind of lag at the same times) and poor costumer support when dealing with those issues.
I could live with a bad stream for a good tournament if they promised to eventually fix things, but watching how they handled the many issues in this league just made me lose faith. The impression I had is that they have no clue on what they are doing as a professional business, even though they are good people with good intentions.
My verdict: skeptical and disappointed. It would take a MLG-esque comeback to make me buy another ticket, but I don't see it happening with their organization. Best of luck for them, though, the idea of an american based starleague has so much potential. I can't be sure, but I think that the stream lag was a regional justin.tv prob?
Speaking from my experience as one of the chat mods, regional lag still occur on Justin.tv. It has improved quite a bit since the first few weeks, especially in the European region, but still suffers in Finland region and severely in Asia.
On the bright side, since TheGunRun became JTV staff, they have become much more responsive with load balancing to help resolve these issues. That's not just for NASL, but for every other stream as well.
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What saved the NASL from being a complete disaster and being remembered as "that which shall not be spoken of" were the amazingly brilliant games played during the grand finals. So more or less the players saved the whole organisatorical stupidity. However this is not something one can rely on in the long run, so the NASL better get their stuff running.
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On July 20 2011 07:42 Scrandom wrote:
I felt like tha NASL had some of the most dissappointing production value but the quality of the games in the final tourney days were insane. Very mixed feelings about the league
The game quality really helped out NASL. I mean, without those epic Bo5s and Bo7s, I don't know if ppl will be so forgiving.
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This thread makes me even more mad i went out for a smoke when they took the picture for the Toronto event!
worsssst.
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NASL season 1 was great. Although I might still buy an hd pass just get access to the vast amount of vods, if they had killed the production in the finals I would DEFINITELY be buying one instead of debating about buying one. Here's to hoping they figure it out in season 2
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