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resilve
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom678 Posts
July 20 2011 15:55 GMT
#181
The write-up seems to be sponsored by NASL?

The entire tournament was absolutely atrocious for non-live viewers, bar the last 6-10 games of the last day.

Ignoring the scale of the issues and lack of quality is not helpful, to either improve the league or esports.
Socke Fighting!!!!
p1cKLes
Profile Joined November 2010
United States342 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-20 16:04:41
July 20 2011 16:04 GMT
#182
Great write up!

You know as someone that puts on events, the first event is always and I mean always the toughest. Though in every case you always learn from the previous event, and I find more than anything pre-work is the key to success.

There were a lot of little things that could have been avoided even for a first event. Sound being one of them. That's something they should have figured out the night before not a day after it started. Schedules are important and sticking to schedules are even more important, and I'm not talking about a general outline here. I'm talking a minute by minute schedule for every single thing that is happening. And in this case there probably should have had multiple schedules, ne for stage and the general people that are attending the event and another for the stream. Some of it overlapping obviously.

In some respect it almost felt like it was thrown together and thought about at the last minute. Not that I'm bashing NASL at all. Overall, I truly felt for a first event it was a huge success and the last two days were great, but just as constructive criticism there were a lot of things that could been avoided IMO that would have made it more of a success. Though in general I'm definitely excited for season 2 and hopefully this will be NASL's defining moment by taking all the constructive criticism and capitalizing on it.
NotSoSerious
Profile Joined August 2010
151 Posts
July 20 2011 16:49 GMT
#183
To me,NASL is synonimus with ,,the worst casters out there''...i dig the passion and dedication,but facts are facts;and for some reason,this tournament has no ,,atmosphere'' to it,i don't know,it feels boring as hell.
Really?
emythrel
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom2599 Posts
July 20 2011 16:50 GMT
#184
On July 21 2011 00:17 Primadog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 21:17 tree.hugger wrote:
On July 20 2011 10:39 hmunkey wrote:
You gave NASL far too much credit for the level of production they put on. I understand you're walking a fine line as TL is a major SC2 fansite, but still, why is it so hard for us to be honest?

Why is it that someone always accuses us of having this other agenda behind our newsposts? It's nothing like this at all, if a writer was more positive than you would've liked, it's because they enjoyed it more than you did. If we mark a Liquid' player higher than you thought, it's because we had a different view on how he played.

Hot_Bid isn't editing these articles to further some nefarious ESPORTS plot. It's amazing how often newsposts get accused of this though.



then what is this "Hot_Bid's Master Plan to Take Over the World for Evil" memo for?


Prima, you weren't supposed to talk about that memo in public.....

We write our articles ourselves, they get edited slightly when we write a horrible sentence or if our illustrious editor feels they need a touch up but the content stays exactly the same. No one makes us write an article (well maybe the Feature game one but I pick the game and what i want to say lol) and I've yet to be told I couldn't publish a negative article assuming its well written and generally correct.

When there is nothing left to lose but your dignity, it is already gone.
Dispersion
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Korea (South)504 Posts
July 20 2011 17:20 GMT
#185
You bring barcraft to Chicago or the Twin Cities and I'm there.
Don't worry. Taht's just Halo
Kuni
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Austria765 Posts
July 20 2011 17:42 GMT
#186
At the beginning of NASL I heard someone say, that the number of tournaments increased a lot and the competition would determine which tournaments would prevail and which would just disappear.

Overall, altho the effort has to be respected, the NASL as it was presented in Season 1 is a tournament, which should disappear and make room for better productions and events. From the technical difficulties all the way to Gretorp's "performance" (and altho it is my personal opinion, but still shared with a lot of the viewers). One great final-series doesn't make up for all that mistakes and failures over the course of Season 1.

However, as was more than one season planned from the beginning, it's not like a 2nd season won't happen, but if the organization doesn't turn 180° around, there should not be a 3rd season, no matter how forgiving we should be as a community. Everybody makes mistakes, but the competition (other tournaments) are just FAR superior at the moment.
bonus vir semper tiro
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
July 20 2011 18:19 GMT
#187
Good article & coverage.

1 Major issue omitted:
- Lack of spoiler-free access to VOD's

Maybe I am in a miniscule minority of people who don't have the time to watch the live stream and watch the VOD's, but this pissed me off the most (a LOT), much more than any of the sound issues (the 2nd biggest issue that shouldn't have existed).

Figured out now that SC2ratings.com is spoiler-free with links to VOD's. NASL should have promoted this or something (anything).

The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
Jepsyn
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada364 Posts
July 20 2011 18:21 GMT
#188
While i agree with some of the criticisms my point is this.

If you expect perfection after one season you are expecting far too much.
And JTV chat should just be disabled because as much as everyone is entitled to be critical no one has THE RIGHT to be a douchebag... you just don't

The NASL was an awesome tournament despite the few glitches ( the jtv trolls were wayyyyyyyyy worse than any audio problem) and i look forward to next season
"Wonder what this game would be like if protoss units cost money" - IdrA
WightyCity
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada887 Posts
July 20 2011 19:37 GMT
#189
I liked the finals. just only tuned in for the final finals. because i saw how long it took between games after the first game. i think they should have fun 2v2 or ffa in the waiting times
90% watching it 8% talking about it and 2% playing it - sc2
VenomBRA
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands168 Posts
July 20 2011 20:53 GMT
#190
Great coverage! Can't wait for more stuff on these guys activities in the NASL house.

White-Ra <3!
"We got a lot of nothing to say"
Giryit
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada11 Posts
July 20 2011 21:43 GMT
#191
Wow, Great Post! :D Can't wait for Season 2
Build Build RUSH!!
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 03:32:10
July 20 2011 22:00 GMT
#192
On July 21 2011 03:19 Wabbit wrote:
Good article & coverage.

1 Major issue omitted:
- Lack of spoiler-free access to VOD's

Maybe I am in a miniscule minority of people who don't have the time to watch the live stream and watch the VOD's, but this pissed me off the most (a LOT), much more than any of the sound issues (the 2nd biggest issue that shouldn't have existed).

Figured out now that SC2ratings.com is spoiler-free with links to VOD's. NASL should have promoted this or something (anything).



sc2ratings is awesome. I have a chance to talk to the guy behind it (Koibu0) at the finals and he's working hard to help tournaments like the NASL with make a half decent VOD rating system.
Thank God and gunrun.
edc
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States666 Posts
July 20 2011 22:10 GMT
#193
White-Ra, as usual, is awesome. Also, NASL Season 1 was excellent. Enough said.
“There are two kinds of people in this world, those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.” - Clint Eastwood
Synwave
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2803 Posts
July 21 2011 01:39 GMT
#194
Grats on season 1, heres to hoping season 2 goes smoother and is more...umm for lack of a better word...user friendly!
Thanks for the extra content and this write up was cool to read.
Bye bye White-ra!
♞Nerdrage is the cause of global warming♞
zipz0p
Profile Joined February 2010
United States123 Posts
July 21 2011 04:44 GMT
#195
Am I the only person who didn't really have any issues with the NASL? That is, other than that it took all of my time by broadcasting so many games!

There were hiccups, but I really would call them that. As jimlloyd pointed out: these are things that can be fixed. I expect that we will see a much better NASL S2, with better players and smoother operation. I, for one, can't wait. Though it will be difficult to find the time to watch with as much dedication as I did in S1.
u gotta skate
Zethiel
Profile Joined September 2010
Bolivia39 Posts
July 21 2011 05:03 GMT
#196
dang I hate myself for missing this but the first article was amazing description of the game, I was happy to read it, I almost felt like I was watching the game!
Si no duele, no sirve - Esteban Zenteno
Fritti
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands52 Posts
July 21 2011 10:44 GMT
#197
I liked the NASL and the finals were amazing, but I totally agree with jimlloyd's writeup here: NASL needs people who want to work to make all the tiny stuff invisible.

My personal most glaring example about this is the music: right after the gg, some 20 seconds of music was played, during which nothing happens at all. To me this always felt like a cheap rip-off of the GSL background music, thrown in because 'we should have epic music after a game'.

In my opinion, the music is a necessary component of a good production -- but it should be there in the background, NOT drawing your attention to itself. It is a supporting component; if it is not there, people will miss it, but it's value is in making you excited / pumped / cheering without even realizing that the music helps you.

One of the reasons that GSL's music lists are so wanted is that the music director there consciously selects tracks that help set the mood without drawing attention to them. And furthermore, the GSL audio producer simply starts the tracks while the commentators are busy hyping the upcoming or previous match -- invisibly!

Anyway I'm interested to see how NASL season two will turn out!
bluemirror
Profile Joined May 2011
United States12 Posts
July 21 2011 23:22 GMT
#198
totally wish I knew about BarCraft Seattle, would've bought drinks for EVERYONE
OliverDONG
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada151 Posts
July 21 2011 23:40 GMT
#199
Great wrap-up of the first season. I hope NASL learns from that first season and grows even bigger. I think the final bo7 pretty much showed how much potential NASL has!
Ciraxis
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia400 Posts
July 22 2011 10:54 GMT
#200
Great article... So much content... and <3 White-Ra!
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