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Serek
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom459 Posts
July 19 2011 21:46 GMT
#61
Nice write up, however at this stage I am convinced the only redeeming feature of NASL Season 1 was the final games, and that has nothing to do with production and everything to do with the players themselves.

Wish them better luck for Season 2, but I'll be watching from a distance.
Robonord
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States311 Posts
July 19 2011 21:46 GMT
#62
On July 20 2011 06:12 emythrel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 06:08 omnomMuffins wrote:

Yeah, great games awful tournament...
I hope they halve the prize pool and put that money into proffesional help. Tastosis recently said GSL has 3 make up artists on staff... 3 make up artists, while i get the impression NASL did a shoutout on IRC and grabbed the first 10 people volounteering. The difference in production is just astonishing, for me to be interested in the future they need to rethink their budget big-time.

I am soundy pessimistic about season 2, but they did power thru the first season despite all troube so... I am cautiosly optimistic about season 3.


What you have to realize is the GSL has an amazing budget, years of experience and is run by a TV station. NASL is literally a start up, zero past experience and learn pretty fast on the fly. Three make up artists to cover two people seems slightly extravagant.


Also remember that the first few seasons of GSL didn't go particularly smoothly either. The stream was laggy as hell, the production wasn't great and the games were flat out awful. All that from a TV channel with dare i say 1000 times more experience and money behind them.


You mean the stream that was fixed within one week, production from open season 1 that will be better then NASL will probably ever be and the fact that SC2 was 1 month old when open season 1 started which would most likely attribute for those bad games? >_>
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rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 19 2011 21:48 GMT
#63
On July 20 2011 06:31 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 06:28 StyLeD wrote:
It's actually quite disrespectful for WhiteRa to be blatantly texting/using his phone during an interview...I know the community loves him and I do to, but the picture seems wrong to me.


white-ra's a multitasker man

That interview was so awesome!!
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Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
July 19 2011 21:57 GMT
#64
absolutely stunning coverage. Ty so much to all that contributed... gretorp is dead-the-fuck-on btw.. he is a really smart dude. Hope he shines in season 2 even more cause he deserves it. One of the absolutely hardest working people in eSports.

<3
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 22:01:13
July 19 2011 21:57 GMT
#65
Amazing article however there is something I don't agree with, it's in the "What you see is what you don't get" part.
Think about it from the perspective of a person watching Starcraft for the first time. If everything looks exactly like it would on ESPN, the person’s going to think, “Huh, there’s a video game that’s presented just like traditional sports! Isn’t that something?” But if it’s something different, with casters’ personalities coming through during the show, eschewing the “ESPN voice” in favor of whatever they can add to the broadcast through jokes or commentary, the viewer might think, “Oh look, those people are having fun!”

I'd like to know how you came up with this. It might be convenient for your article's consistency but it does not make sense to me, in fact I think this is quite an assumptive statement.

Other than that, very interesting read.

In my opinion NASL could have been a total failure. Fortunately they had good casters (tastosis9) as well as good players who showed good games.

also I may have spotted a couple typos here and there but nothing serious (a couple of missing letters and such)
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Crais
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2136 Posts
July 19 2011 21:58 GMT
#66
Fantastic write up. Many thanks.
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Thrax
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1755 Posts
July 19 2011 22:01 GMT
#67
Awesome article. I'm really looking forward to NASL S2, I think we can expect a great season.
Man.Magic
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States178 Posts
July 19 2011 22:01 GMT
#68
Good read, look forward to the next episode.

Does anyone else see what Gretorp looks like in that picture? Similar too a dressed monkey paired with the Italian man playing music in the park?
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Jtom
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland1044 Posts
July 19 2011 22:02 GMT
#69
Epic write-up thanks guys, I loved reading it !
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hazelynut
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2197 Posts
July 19 2011 22:02 GMT
#70
Lovely writeup. So proud of you, Eve.
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RealRook
Profile Joined September 2010
Czech Republic54 Posts
July 19 2011 22:03 GMT
#71
really nice article, wish every article had this kind of quality and effort put it, well done!!
StateAlchemist
Profile Joined January 2011
France1946 Posts
July 19 2011 22:05 GMT
#72
Very nice article, i enjoyed reading it. Thanks for all that work
Mawi
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden4365 Posts
July 19 2011 22:09 GMT
#73
White RA so awesome <3 <3 <3

Tasteless steals the attention of the Excellent girl the power of his glory in all epicness.
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Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
July 19 2011 22:09 GMT
#74
The live performance as part of 'the good'? Was I really the only one hiding under my couch when that was happening?

Great writeup, but I'm pretty sure that if the finals had been a one-sided walkover, NASL wouldn't be judged half as kindly. And that's fine, the best moment in any competition should be the actual games, not the bullshit around it.
[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
July 19 2011 22:10 GMT
#75
1st news post I've read in agesssssss. Nice wrapup I definitely agree with pretty much everything. But for me the worst was the 10 games in 12 hours crap. The audio problems sucked but I think it was more of the fact that it continued to suck. The other problems just sucked from the get go.
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sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
July 19 2011 22:11 GMT
#76
wow, this is an impressive writeup

i find it funny however that confusedcrib mentions the justintv chat as a negative, pretty much every single chat channel of any stream ever has a huge number of idiots on it, it's not just because nasl had issues. for example huk's chat is unwatchable
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mr.reee
Profile Joined November 2010
121 Posts
July 19 2011 22:22 GMT
#77
Easy to say that the league/NASL staff did not do a single thing right. Stream lag all season, culminating in an unwatchable day 2/3 of the finals and a 2 hour delay (with no explanation) on day 1. Audio problems all season, culminating in single-eared listening for the finals. Game pauses/re-starts/forfeits all season, culminating in constant pausing and re-starting throughout the finals, even in the championship bo7.

There is an obvious problem with Gretorp casting, being that he says the wrong word frequently, and is terribly awkward and corny. The quality of casting during the finals was greatly improved by adding day9 and tasteosis.

The high prize pool has attracted basically all non-korean SCII players that I am interested in watching. This gives the NASL with tremendous potential, which was not remotely realized in season 1.

All in all, trying to follow season 1 of the NASL was highly frustrating and deeply disappointing. The the lag, audio, and casting issues are resolved, I would be very excited to watch season 2. Based on the failure that was the NASL finals, I am pessimistic.


skiptomylou1231
Profile Joined January 2011
United States63 Posts
July 19 2011 22:25 GMT
#78
This write-up might have been the one with most content to sort through.

The one thing about NASL that was the biggest fault for me was the 10 matches in 12 hours. That's simply ridiculous and I think pretty much everyone who was tuning into the stream was irritated by that. But here's hoping for a successful Season 2!
Superouman
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
France2195 Posts
July 19 2011 22:27 GMT
#79
B... B... BarCraft... I... want this... Me... can't wait for this... in France...
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SpaceToaster
Profile Joined October 2010
United States289 Posts
July 19 2011 22:27 GMT
#80
Good write up!

Also
When it was first announced that Sunday's events would be kicking off with a live performance, I think we all braced for the worst. GSL's live performances are something we all begrudgingly sit through to get to the games.


So not true! I love the GSL live performances! Not only cause I can tolerate the music, but also because it makes the whole event seem like that much of a bigger deal.
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