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[GSL] Liquid`Jinro / EG.IdrA Ro8 Foreigner Special - Page 10

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Playguuu
Profile Joined April 2010
United States926 Posts
January 20 2011 23:20 GMT
#181
Poor soundproofing? is that true?
I used to be just like you, then I took a sweetroll to the knee.
alexninty
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany9 Posts
January 21 2011 00:08 GMT
#182
I hope Jinro will reach the final ;-)
EdSlyB
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Portugal1621 Posts
January 21 2011 00:17 GMT
#183
I really wanted IdrA to win this round. But Jinro won and that is the best second thing to happen

Gogo Terran Gorilla!!
aka Wardo
SkeweredFromEarToEye
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada19 Posts
January 21 2011 00:49 GMT
#184
On January 20 2011 09:26 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2011 09:23 PhiGgoT wrote:
I think Idra left in game 2 as quickly as he did because he was behind from the get go, but also just to show how retarded the state of the game is right now for zerg. Its silly that a terran can just do that and pretty much beat any zerg as long he gets bunker up. Yes you can stop it with a drone but then what? You have to scout too meaning, you are already down 2 drones in close position metaopolis, there is just no point in doing it unless you know it's coming. But who can do that? Z having to put down a drone on choke every game, the thought of that is just fucking retarded. Especially on shit maps.

I think the point is, double bunker going up puts you way far behind while using 1 drone to stop it only puts you a little behind (however many minerals the drone would mine for that time). Patrolling one extra drone is not a guaranteed loss at all, you make it out to be some sort of hugely game altering thing.


terran can just start building the bunkers, drones get pulled off the line, the Z player loses all this mining time, and then the T can just cancel the bunkers. on top of that, the terran player can salvage the bunkers, suffering no loss at all (except the time invested in the push, but the zerg's expo is delayed and the zerg also loses mining time, and has to spend time fending off the push). also, i think it's kind of bs that Z players have to set a drone on patrol and lose that mining time, even if he doesnt know for sure the T player is going to build a bunker. the mechanics are just too forgiving for T imo. but nonetheless, gz to jinro.
On a spit, your head will burn...Charring flesh; brain tissue congeals...Grab the skull; open wide; scoop it out...I consume your mind. Eating the brain, to gain the knowledge of death
PhiliBiRD
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2643 Posts
January 21 2011 00:55 GMT
#185
gl jinro, we all expected better games vs idra but i wouldnt have expected you to do anything different after seeing the positions you entered.

well played
oppS
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada28 Posts
January 21 2011 01:09 GMT
#186
IdrA wearing contacts and a leather jacket. I think he got laid recently. Or wants to.
"If you're not attacking you're probably losing" -- Rootqxc
BalanceFx
Profile Joined July 2010
United States72 Posts
January 21 2011 01:38 GMT
#187
On January 21 2011 09:08 alexninty wrote:
I hope Jinro will reach the final ;-)


Meh. I hope Jinro pwns and takes the whole thing. Go Jinro!
When you understand why you reject all other gods, you will understand why I reject yours as well. --Stephen Roberts
Honeybadger
Profile Joined August 2010
United States821 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-21 02:44:11
January 21 2011 02:43 GMT
#188
On January 21 2011 09:49 SkeweredFromEarToEye wrote:
terran can just start building the bunkers, drones get pulled off the line, the Z player loses all this mining time, and then the T can just cancel the bunkers. on top of that, the terran player can salvage the bunkers, suffering no loss at all (except the time invested in the push, but the zerg's expo is delayed and the zerg also loses mining time, and has to spend time fending off the push). also, i think it's kind of bs that Z players have to set a drone on patrol and lose that mining time, even if he doesnt know for sure the T player is going to build a bunker. the mechanics are just too forgiving for T imo. but nonetheless, gz to jinro.


One drone patrolling the ramp stops everything you just described.

Sometimes we just need to do stuff to make sure a strategy doesn't happen. It's like a terran complaining about magic box mutas countering the unit designed to handle them. We just have to deal with it.
"I like to tape my thumbs to my hands to see what it would be like to be a dinosaur."
cordlc
Profile Joined November 2010
United States360 Posts
January 21 2011 04:45 GMT
#189
On January 21 2011 02:58 Zorkmid wrote:
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On January 20 2011 14:30 WhoaDrugs wrote:
Karma caught up to IdrA. =) Best week ever.
Great job Jinro! Good luck!


Hogwash, IdrA just ran into a very good player that is on a roll right now, a roll unseen in a foreigner in a long long time, perhaps ever.

Eh, I'd say the problem was that IdrA ran into some awful maps / positions, coupled with some bad luck.

Not that Jinro isn't a great player, but that isn't quite as relevant, seeing as how we are dealing with the RO8 of GSL Code S (where you expect every player to be a force to reckon with)


Anyway, hope the matches against MKP end up entertaining!
LooKe
Profile Joined October 2010
32 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-21 06:11:57
January 21 2011 06:10 GMT
#190
Here is the artosis interview:
Findhorn
Profile Joined September 2010
17 Posts
January 21 2011 12:21 GMT
#191
Does anyone know when the semi finals will be played exactly ? I have looked through the page quite thoroughly but couldnt find anything really. The linking to gomtv.com requires korean mastery to be usefull and the league standings doesnt even show the matching of the semis. thx.
shinwa
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden225 Posts
January 21 2011 13:36 GMT
#192
On January 21 2011 21:21 Findhorn wrote:
Does anyone know when the semi finals will be played exactly ? I have looked through the page quite thoroughly but couldnt find anything really. The linking to gomtv.com requires korean mastery to be usefull and the league standings doesnt even show the matching of the semis. thx.



http://www.teamliquid.net/calendar/2011/1/#event_3567

If I'm not mistaken.
SteffoDeffo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany48 Posts
January 21 2011 13:53 GMT
#193
jinro fighting!!

nice interview btw
LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
January 21 2011 18:20 GMT
#194
THE CHINNNNNNNNNNN gogoggogogogogo pwn, and i play zerg ^^
JD, need I say more? :D
Sansucal
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany259 Posts
January 21 2011 18:48 GMT
#195
Europe for the win
panther90peppers
Profile Joined January 2011
United States5 Posts
January 22 2011 00:28 GMT
#196
Ya Jinro good job
my life for Aiur toss rockssssss and go Archons
sP4CeMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany28 Posts
January 22 2011 11:45 GMT
#197
jinro ♥
medium.ai
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany11 Posts
January 22 2011 16:01 GMT
#198
On January 20 2011 11:00 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2011 10:04 Zim23 wrote:
On January 20 2011 09:26 Hot_Bid wrote:
On January 20 2011 09:23 PhiGgoT wrote:
I think Idra left in game 2 as quickly as he did because he was behind from the get go, but also just to show how retarded the state of the game is right now for zerg. Its silly that a terran can just do that and pretty much beat any zerg as long he gets bunker up. Yes you can stop it with a drone but then what? You have to scout too meaning, you are already down 2 drones in close position metaopolis, there is just no point in doing it unless you know it's coming. But who can do that? Z having to put down a drone on choke every game, the thought of that is just fucking retarded. Especially on shit maps.

I think the point is, double bunker going up puts you way far behind while using 1 drone to stop it only puts you a little behind (however many minerals the drone would mine for that time). Patrolling one extra drone is not a guaranteed loss at all, you make it out to be some sort of hugely game altering thing.

Plus Jinro was hiding a second SCV anyway, so if IdrA was patrolling a drone that second non mining SCV would have been a complete waste for Jinro thus making them even. Patrolling drone is totally worth it.


the thing is that zerg has to put themselves behind to prevent stuff. if the stuff wasn't planned they're behind for no reason. a zealot on hold position and a supply depot up, doesn't hurt your economy nearly as bad. that's a slight version of imbalance imo.

also, (somebody already mentioned that) if it fails, they're not punished. they regain 100% of the minerals and the enemy looses at least some mining time.

edit: btw nice writeup!


If u want to be meticulous: building a wall in, will hurt the terrans economy. Would u say the game state is stupid for that reason?? seriously plz stop complaining
plan3t
Profile Joined October 2008
Canada75 Posts
January 28 2011 14:46 GMT
#199
I'm glad our foreigner reps are such colorful characters.
Jinro looks like some kind of a nerd-eating badass, while Idra is Idra, man. Look at him. He is half man, half android and all supernerd.
fuzzy_panda
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand1681 Posts
January 28 2011 21:53 GMT
#200
On January 23 2011 01:01 medium.ai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2011 11:00 Jayjay54 wrote:
On January 20 2011 10:04 Zim23 wrote:
On January 20 2011 09:26 Hot_Bid wrote:
On January 20 2011 09:23 PhiGgoT wrote:
I think Idra left in game 2 as quickly as he did because he was behind from the get go, but also just to show how retarded the state of the game is right now for zerg. Its silly that a terran can just do that and pretty much beat any zerg as long he gets bunker up. Yes you can stop it with a drone but then what? You have to scout too meaning, you are already down 2 drones in close position metaopolis, there is just no point in doing it unless you know it's coming. But who can do that? Z having to put down a drone on choke every game, the thought of that is just fucking retarded. Especially on shit maps.

I think the point is, double bunker going up puts you way far behind while using 1 drone to stop it only puts you a little behind (however many minerals the drone would mine for that time). Patrolling one extra drone is not a guaranteed loss at all, you make it out to be some sort of hugely game altering thing.

Plus Jinro was hiding a second SCV anyway, so if IdrA was patrolling a drone that second non mining SCV would have been a complete waste for Jinro thus making them even. Patrolling drone is totally worth it.


the thing is that zerg has to put themselves behind to prevent stuff. if the stuff wasn't planned they're behind for no reason. a zealot on hold position and a supply depot up, doesn't hurt your economy nearly as bad. that's a slight version of imbalance imo.

also, (somebody already mentioned that) if it fails, they're not punished. they regain 100% of the minerals and the enemy looses at least some mining time.

edit: btw nice writeup!


If u want to be meticulous: building a wall in, will hurt the terrans economy. Would u say the game state is stupid for that reason?? seriously plz stop complaining


also, if the zerg manages to make the terran cancel the bunker instead of letting it finish, the terran will actually lose 25 minerals.
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