EPTI really loved all the old TLattacks. It's a little bit sad to see the quality deteriorate like this.
[VODs] TLA S3E2 qxc - Page 10
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wadadde
270 Posts
I really loved all the old TLattacks. It's a little bit sad to see the quality deteriorate like this. | ||
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Mortician
Bulgaria2332 Posts
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On August 23 2010 00:10 wadadde wrote: A few people have mentioned it before, Incontrol is way too dominant. I like his relentless barage of comedic chatter, but he needs to learn his place in an event like this. He should just shut the fuck up at certain points. Part of me thinks that he lacks the required control and should just be replaced with a more facilitating personality. Day9 would also be a horrendous mismatch. I really loved all the old TLattacks. It's a little bit sad to see the quality deteriorate like this. It wouldn't be my place to temp ban you or warn you for this post but saying "needs to shut the fuck up" or "learn his place" can come off as a real dickish way of saying what otherwise would be a completely acceptable criticism in a thread where criticism could be helpful. Please be less the douche and more the help in the future. | ||
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wadadde
270 Posts
On August 22 2010 21:33 {88}iNcontroL wrote: some pretty critical criticism guys. You realize this is a really fun event where we are supposed to mock the guests as a distraction right? The accommodation remarks and me being "cancerous" seem a bit overzealous. Don't get me wrong I will take the fact that I am poisonous to this event under consideration but I feel like a lot of people "get it" whereas those that are like "this was so rude!" and "incontrol was trying to be a star too much" are missing the point  No, I did not understand that you had to mock the guest as a distraction. I think you had to distract the guest. The mocking part, or the emphasis on mocking the guest is an innovation, as far as I can tell. Also, you're not going to get any kind of conversation going with a guest if they don't feel they're getting any room to talk the way they usually do, AKA when they're not constantly on the backfoot. edit: sorry about any earlier dickishness on my part | ||
Chill
Calgary26004 Posts
On August 22 2010 21:33 {88}iNcontroL wrote: some pretty critical criticism guys. You realize this is a really fun event where we are supposed to mock the guests as a distraction right? The accommodation remarks and me being "cancerous" seem a bit overzealous. Don't get me wrong I will take the fact that I am poisonous to this event under consideration but I feel like a lot of people "get it" whereas those that are like "this was so rude!" and "incontrol was trying to be a star too much" are missing the point I don't want people to feel nervous to criticize us, but at the same time I never felt like Inc was baselessly or maliciously insulting qxc. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
I just don't think calling me cancerous or needing to "shut the fuck up" really helps lol | ||
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SentrySteve
United States71 Posts
On August 23 2010 00:55 {88}iNcontroL wrote: I want criticism too I just don't think calling me cancerous or needing to "shut the fuck up" really helps lol Do the players know that you're going to be mocking them before going in? Obviously older SC1 players would but at times qxc sounded confused or out of his element. I say that because he would be mocked when he talked, mocked if he was losing, when he tried and started to micro he would be mocked for not talking, etc. I'm not complaining, because I enjoyed all of it, but TLA seems more like starcraft's version of comedy central's roasts on celebrities. The selected 'hero's' personality really matters but most high end starcraft 2 players don't usually double as comedians. If the goal is to put on the show of a lifetime I'd like to see more organization and more of a focus on entertainment. Especially reading this thread it seems like TLA doesn't have an identity. Some people want to see pros do stupid things and win, but complain when it doesn't work out (ie; game 1), and others think the insults were too much as shown in this thread. Neither you or chill strike me as the kind of people who actually want to do pre-show work but having some kind of screening process would be a benefit. For example, if game 1 was against a true bronze league player I bet qxc would have had a good shot at winning while still putting on a great show. By the way, my favorite parts are when you mock the opponent's thought process. "I'll get carriers! That's the counter to ravens!" /edit: Also, I think the vast majority just enjoy it. Forums are usually just reserved for those people who want to complain or voice their opinion while the other 5,000+ people had a laugh and are waiting for the next one. | ||
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bakesale
United States187 Posts
1. Please issue a torrent for each episode, and make the video higher quality (on youtube and the torrent) 2. I think this week's disorganization made it less entertaining. A certain amount of disorganization is funny, too much of it makes the show drag. 3. Take all opportunities to make fun of the participants. There were a lot of chat messages that went unread and un-mocked during some of the matches. These comments were hilarious in S3E1. 4. Involve the player more during the matches. Looking forward to further episodes. | ||
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TheFinalWord
Australia790 Posts
I think the commentary deteriated a bit from episode 1, it seemed less like mocking and more like being mean especially from incontrol. It also takes alot of the fun out of it when incontrol was always saying its over, hurry up and leave, etc even when qxc was about to scv rush or when it was a close game like the first one. Qxc fighting from behind after a failed scv rush was an entertaining prospect that was kind of ruined by incontrol prematurely calling it off. I think the most important point I'm trying to get across is there is a difference between mocking and insulting, I think an understanding of this would greatly improve future TLA's. Also, insulting Qxc is awkard and not funny, insulting the other player is hilarious. They gave up their right to respect when they agreed to play  It seemed like most of the insulting in this particular episode was just complaining about how boring it is, complaining about boredom makes it alot more boring. edit: maybe a poll on favourite game would help gauge the popular parts of the show. Mine were scv rush, mass raven, mass ghost and team game. Oh and I think you should have played twilight fortress or some other unconvential map like qxc suggested. | ||
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aNDRoM
United States637 Posts
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cAPS
United States153 Posts
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Weird
United States832 Posts
I feel that the pro is put in an unwinnable situation, we all want him to win/talk/use crazy strategies all at the same time, and only so many people can do this at a high level. The game is so new, along with Bnet 2.0 that I'm sure it will take some time to flesh things out. Love the show, zero problems with Chill or InControl as commentators, some people are a little too sensitive around here. | ||
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aNDRoM
United States637 Posts
Edit: Showing my n00bness for the moment, does the TL community use "caster" to mean anyone who (broad)casts games, a.k.a. streamers, or to mean those who provide commentary , a.k.a. commentators, or it could mean either based on context? Just curious if my idea should be called "Caster Edition" or "Commentator Edition"... | ||
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SmoKim
Denmark10307 Posts
or just get Artosis and let Incontrol/Chill have their evil ways, that would be amazing  GREAT SHOW | ||
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dim2thesum
United States65 Posts
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Percutio
United States1672 Posts
I think the only change should be a change of the crazy strategies so that they aren't necessarily doomed to fail right away like the BC rush. I did enjoy the matches on weird maps though. | ||
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OmniEulogy
Canada6600 Posts
As for the commentating... good job guys It was enjoyable, I do think InControl took over a bit too much but it fills the silence so I think it's also a needed evil. Still love the random stories though great job guys :DI think the challengers were actually TOO good for this as well, you need worse players so the cheese does more damage xD | ||
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odder
United States405 Posts
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Trap
United States395 Posts
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Toastmold
Canada207 Posts
Oh, and by the way I made this Ultralisk video a while ago that proves that they are balanced. | ||
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