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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
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Dametri
United States726 Posts
At least GTR has a knife | ||
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yarders
United Kingdom194 Posts
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/gaming/2007-05-21-starcraft2-peek_N.htm "South Korea, however, accounts for almost half of the sales. HanbitSoft, the local distributor, says StarCraft has sold 4.5 million copies there." Note that this figure is out of date since the article is from 2007. Since then Starcraft has sold over a million more copies more so this number may be even higher now. | ||
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Krytha
Canada140 Posts
B) Pro gamers will never stand up for themselves in Korea because... that is not the Korean way. Management rules, not the stars like in the US. | ||
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gyth
657 Posts
Korea will continue providing me with highly entertaining broodwar. And the rest of the world will be given a fair chance to league up SC2 without getting schooled by magma. | ||
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Shadeye
Australia75 Posts
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vx70GTOJudgexv
United States3161 Posts
On September 16 2009 15:31 `Orum wrote: The largest prize pool, and you think the players didn't care about it? That's ridiculous. If you thought all the games were of low quality, you clearly weren't watching what I was. Sure, reducing the amount of SC/BW games might be a good idea, but why drop the one that has a GROWING audience, mainly thanks to the English casting? That's biting the hand that feeds you. And people think SC2 is going to help this. Probably not, for several reasons. First off, there won't be pro gamers who are at the level of SC/BW players for a long time--it takes time to get really good at a new game, even if you've played its predecessor. But before that can even happen, SC2 will need to go through many balance changes, because there's no way it can be as well balanced as a game that has matured over 10+ years. And then it has to be accepted by the gamers, and the community, as a game worthy of the legacy of SC/BW, so pros take the time, networks get the sponsorship, and people watch. I bolded the parts that I really want to address. First yeah, they care more about the OSL (and even the MSL) than GOM. Why? Prestige. Money, while the main issue here, didn't mean squat to the players compared to the thought of winning the OSL or MSL. As for the latter part - KeSPA gets nothing from us, why the fuck would they care? On September 16 2009 19:18 hyouro wrote: If you goto North Korea and say you are THE GREAT LEADER'S biggest fan, you will also get treathed very well, but that doesnt make the country any better because they are still fucking insane. But regarding the topic at hand... Blizzard can pull the whole plug on South Korea and just laugh while the money steamrolls from World of Wankers. Blizzard/activision must be the richest gaming company so if they lose south korea they wont go QQ, they would go hmm we are gonna lose "10 mil dollers"..... FUCK THAT we just make another wow expansion, problem solved Actually, it's quite the contrary - KeSPA is backed by the Korean government. They can just pull the plug on SC/WC and move on with their lives (via ratings). I think everyone is underestimating KeSPA here and a lot of things aren't being understood properly. | ||
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Eury
Sweden1126 Posts
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ibutoss
Australia341 Posts
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g0sudj
Korea (South)29 Posts
To me, if anything, GOM is a harbinger of the diminishing corporate returns of Broodwar in face of impending SC 2. It just doesn't make sense for the big sponsors to funnel money into a league targeted largely towards foreigners in a dying game when their support for an upcoming successful game is guaranteed by corporate loyalty/success. 2 cents. | ||
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QibingZero
2611 Posts
I'd still have a couple less than from hearing 'SC2 will replace starcraft'. Really though, how are the vested interests going to get in deep with SC2 when they're actively fighting against Blizzard on this front? If Blizzard realizes they can make a sweet deal on all of this, what stops them from EULAing it up to prevent anyone from even broadcasting the game without being directly involved? Hell, what happens if they reward GOM with restricted rights? What does kespa do then? And even if they were to manage to get in on SC2, are they willing to take a loss if it turns out to be less competitively viable or less fun to watch than SC? Honestly, I think they're best off sitting on what they have. | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
United States3161 Posts
On September 18 2009 18:03 QibingZero wrote: If I had a dollar for all the times I've heard starcraft was dying... I'd still have a couple less than from hearing 'SC2 will replace starcraft'. Really though, how are the vested interests going to get in deep with SC2 when they're actively fighting against Blizzard on this front? If Blizzard realizes they can make a sweet deal on all of this, what stops them from EULAing it up to prevent anyone from even broadcasting the game without being directly involved? Hell, what happens if they reward GOM with restricted rights? What does kespa do then? See, if Blizzard does that, KeSPA will probably influence the rating to fuck Blizzard over. Let's just remember - KeSPA consists of reps from Samsung, SK Telecom, KT and CJ among others - those are all MAJOR corporations in South Korea that can throw money and influence around. The problem for Blizzard is they can EULA SC2 all they want, it just will get fucked over in Korea and they will move on with their lives while Blizzard just dumped all these years into making an eSports-oriented game then lost their largest market. I think "You can't fight fire with fire" is the appropriate line for the situation. | ||
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GoAudio
Sweden400 Posts
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[X]Ken_D
United States4650 Posts
On September 19 2009 04:14 vx70GTOJudgexv See, if Blizzard does that, KeSPA will probably influence the rating to fuck Blizzard over. Let's just remember - KeSPA consists of reps from Samsung, SK Telecom, KT and CJ among others - those are all MAJOR corporations in South Korea that can throw money and influence around. The problem for Blizzard is they can EULA SC2 all they want, it just will get fucked over in Korea and they will move on with their lives while Blizzard just dumped all these years into making an eSports-oriented game then lost their largest market. I think "You can't fight fire with fire" is the appropriate line for the situation. Starcraft is its own entity in Korea. Almost all people know about in some way. KESPA doesn't keep Starcraft alive, it is Starcraft that keeps KESPA alive. These major corporations are benefiting from Starcraft through advertising for the relative price of .. peanuts lol. | ||
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
On September 19 2009 04:14 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote: See, if Blizzard does that, KeSPA will probably influence the rating to fuck Blizzard over. Let's just remember - KeSPA consists of reps from Samsung, SK Telecom, KT and CJ among others - those are all MAJOR corporations in South Korea that can throw money and influence around. The problem for Blizzard is they can EULA SC2 all they want, it just will get fucked over in Korea and they will move on with their lives while Blizzard just dumped all these years into making an eSports-oriented game then lost their largest market. I think "You can't fight fire with fire" is the appropriate line for the situation. Korea might be the biggest market now, but Blizzard is looking to change and move beyond that. I think Blizzard would gladly lose Korea and gain everywhere else if it means SC2 would be a successful E-Sport. While normally I'd doubt such a lofty goal I've learned before to not really doubt Blizzard. The quality of everything they put out is top notch and I have a hard time believing they'd half-ass an E-Sports league should they truly set their sights on running one instead of just endorsing one. | ||
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Masq
Canada1792 Posts
More monopoly, less choice, less quality. | ||
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ChaseR
Norway1004 Posts
This is a rather sad ordeal with Gom, Kespa and the whole "industrialization" of E-Sports, I don't have anything to add other than that TL posters blow away other wannabe gaming forums when it comes to having a discussion. (At least all of the one's I have experienced) | ||
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Sharp-eYe
Canada642 Posts
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peidongyang
Canada2084 Posts
not for long though | ||
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