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Zurich15366 Posts
On September 15 2009 23:32 Kwark wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2009 21:40 zatic wrote:On September 15 2009 21:20 Kwark wrote:
Because ultimately KeSPA don't have the power in this argument. They're using their nuclear option by taking away the players but Blizzard can up the licensing fee beyond their range if they want. It's funny how people think OGN / MBC / Kespa actually pay Blizzard for broadcasting rights. I don't have any definite confirmation on whether they do or not, but I don't think they pay a dime. They just do it. Starcraft belongs to Blizzard, I don't know if they do get licensing fees but they have the right to charge them. KeSPA can't legally profit from the sale of someone elses intellectual property without their consent.
Yepp but they sure as hell can do it illegally. And Blizzard can't do shit about it because suing them would be WAY more expensive than not getting a broadcasting fee. Which is what I am saying.
Apart from that, I don't think any country has had laws or a single ruling about how far the IP rights of computer game makers go, so saying "they have the (legal) right to charge them" is just speculation. This is not clear at all. From my (rather limited) understanding of German copyright law for example it might very well backfire to try to establish IP over broadcasting by a game producing company. In any case it would be a drawn out and expensive trial with the most likely result of no Starcraft broadcasted at all, which obviously is not in Blizzard's interest.
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On September 15 2009 23:57 heyoka wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2009 22:01 Liquid`NonY wrote:
If KeSPA has competition in SC2, and that competition might include Blizzard themselves as they prepare to host their own leagues, then KeSPA could definitely be muscled out. But right now, there isn't really any muscling out going on because they're not in competition right now. The terms of their ongoing relationship could be adjusted but it's too fragile. I was under the impression that it was confirmed KeSPA would have competition for SC2. I'm reasonably sure Daniel said explicitly in a cast over the spring/summer (trying to remember where, Valor maybe?) that Blizzard was planning on organizing everything worldwide themselves and leaving Korean governing bodies in the dust. We also know Blizzard has a 10 man "esports team" or whatever which might support that (or maybe its really just 12 Karunes to post on rumor forums LOL).
Yeah, I think it's more accurate to say that Blizzard will be competition and not that they might be competition. But we'll have to wait and see.
I don't think it really matters though because there will be more incentive for Korean players to leave Korea for SC2 than there is for BW. When faced with the decision of playing in all KeSPA events or all non-KeSPA events, a Korean SC2 player would not be completely insane to opt for the non-KeSPA stuff as a Korean BW player currently would be.
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I will laugh when SC2 comes out and blizzard fucks kespa right left and center. They can stick to their crappy starcraft original and broadcast even crappier events lol... ooowait wtf I love starcraft =_= ahh yeah I hate kespa!
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this just in from daniels twitter:
to me it's pretty certain that league won't continue, at least not in the same fashion as last season,
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On September 16 2009 02:47 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
I will laugh when SC2 comes out and blizzard fucks kespa right left and center. They can stick to their crappy starcraft original and broadcast even crappier events lol... ooowait wtf I love starcraft =_= ahh yeah I hate kespa!
yeah it'd be pretty cool to see GOM prosper when SC2 rolls around
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RAGE!
Just adding to the 20 pages.
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Updated with all his most recent posts
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No more Gom seasons? Kespa?!?!....
*facepalm*
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First SDM says that no pro gamers will participate then he says it's not really for certain...but what the hell, on the flipside consistent people that makes sense aren't really that entertaining.
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Really sad about this. Wonder what will happen to SDM and tasteless now.
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Oh sweet jesus no!!! Gom was the best thing to happen to the progamer scene. Hopefully blizzards new policies will keep kespa completely out of the loop with sc2 or at least play fairly.
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On September 16 2009 04:05 Integra wrote:
First SDM says that no pro gamers will participate then he says it's not really for certain...but what the hell, on the flipside consistent people that makes sense aren't really that entertaining.
How do you feel it doesnt make sense? Hes saying its dead as far as progamers are concerned. Its just not official yet.
SDM if anyone should have inside information about it. What really wouldnt make sense, is if the proteams all said "We wont participate in the next season", then do a 360 and say "Ok, nevermind what we said earlier. Lets do this."
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Calgary26003 Posts
That would actually be a 180.
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On September 16 2009 05:11 Chill wrote:
That would actually be a 180.
Haha. Good point. I stand corrected.
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sad panda  is sad!
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Some people are defending KeSPA...why?! This is the KeSPA that disqualifies you if you type "pp" instead of "ppp" EVEN AFTER your monitor breaks. What's next, an automatic forfeit if your keyboard breaks? This shit is ridiculous, and I hope the pro players are just as pissed off. Ultimately KeSPA is the one to blame here...
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I'm starting to see similarities between KeSPA and the North Korean government. Are we sure that Kim Jong-il has nothing to do with this?
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHH having pro english commentary was what really got me into watching SC religiously. now........now..........i want to cry.
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On September 14 2009 17:08 motbob wrote:OMG STX/KESPA/GOM DRAMA KEPT JULYZERG FROM GOING TO BLIZZCONShow nested quote +too bad julyzerg can't goto blizzcon I know how much that boy wanted to go, he was next in line to go, after flash and iris. STX stood by KESPA, hate it when players gets left out because of politics. Blizzard holding hands with GOMTV isn't affecting KESPA at all. THERE NEEDS TO BE 20 PAGES OF RAGE ABOUT THIS
Unbelievable.
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On September 16 2009 05:11 Chill wrote:
That would actually be a 180.
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SDM does seem pretty serious about it though. He would know better than anyone whats going on in the company and from what I've been hearing it isnt looking good.
Hopefully they can hold out until SC2 and do something with that. As countless others have said, SC2 is going to be a lot different now that its on a global stage again.
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