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SugiuraMidori
Profile Joined May 2009
United States281 Posts
August 02 2009 20:15 GMT
#161
Just letting everyone know I'm here but waiting for access to here on smurf account, thought I had it but I guess not.

Read stuff and you're all being useless ;P

Off to Qatol's, hope to have access later!
Foolish Brother ... If You Want to Kill Me ... Then Hate, Spite ... and Survive Pathetically. Run and Run ... and Cling Desperately to Life.
SatouxKisei
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
233 Posts
August 02 2009 20:21 GMT
#162
Cardinal
Profile Joined July 2009
United States7 Posts
August 02 2009 20:48 GMT
#163
On August 03 2009 04:57 MasonBob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2009 02:04 Acidic Pirate wrote:
A quick note to the abstainers in the voting thread:

Abstaining does nothing for the town. If anything, vote for an inactive townie. He's either an inactive townie, in which case his death wouldn't mean much for us anyway, or he's mafia, in which case we have our first little victory. Besides, by voting for different people, you can see their reactions and use them to try and figure out whether or not a person is mafia or not.

So stop abstaining, and starting voting for people, if nothing else than to see their reaction.

:/

And it's not like by abstaining no one's going to die. Yes, someone is going to die anyway, so abstaining really does nothing. At the earliest stages of the game, we need all the intelligence we can get, and behavioral clues/analysis helps us determine who the mafia are.


thx for the info that ur totally mafia and want help getting rid of townies through posting about inactives
lucky for you pyr clarified that some people dont have access yet
also we need someone else to be more obvious about being mafia like you so we can have a good start on the lynch wars

obviously scum
The Best Argument Against Democracy is a 5 Minute Conversation with the average voter. -Winston Churchill
ReporterSmurf
Profile Joined July 2009
42 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-02 22:45:17
August 02 2009 20:59 GMT
#164
Breaking News:

SatouxKisei's post count is about to surpass SugiuraMidori's post count (nonsmurf). At this rate, SatouxKisei will be a marine in no time. Sat's post mostly contain one liners. Other than that he just posts smiley faces. Sat strongly opposes the inactives and wants them lynch right away. While others feel that the overly hyperactive individuals may need to be lynched instead.

This has been news from the most unbias and most undrivel smurf news organization. Thank you for reading and have fun posting!
Reporting your Mafia News
ReporterSmurf
Profile Joined July 2009
42 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-02 22:44:42
August 02 2009 21:11 GMT
#165
34 of SatouxKisei's posts have been dug up. If anyone finds the lost posts please inform me by pm. This is urgent! If SatouxKisei dies, Falcynn would have been left to find all of these quotes. To Falcynn your welcome!
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 02 2009 07:10 SatouxKisei wrote:
hi guys <3

On August 02 2009 09:21 SatouxKisei wrote:
make that 1,2,3,4 in repeating order. Oh no.

On August 02 2009 10:19 SatouxKisei wrote:

Show nested quote +

But before he could leave the room, a red dot appeared on his forehead.

Cool weapon.

On August 02 2009 11:58 SatouxKisei wrote:
we have 48 hours. there is plenty of time to abstain and come up with a better suspect. Everyone should post, otherwise picking randomly from a list of inactives sounds perfectly fine with me.

On August 02 2009 14:07 SatouxKisei wrote:
Maybe it's the predator gun. That would be kickass.

On August 02 2009 14:08 SatouxKisei wrote:
actually the predator aiming laser has 3 dots. =(

On August 02 2009 15:32 SatouxKisei wrote:
ah. i merely pointed out a clue, in hopes it would reoccur in another day's post. <_<

Yeah totally agree with lynching inactives

On August 02 2009 16:01 SatouxKisei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2009 00:48 Smurfette wrote:
^_^;;

Show nested quote +
On August 01 2009 18:59 Roflsupplecakes wrote:
Whats wrong with this smurf, it's just something nony said one one of the tlattacks
screw you malongo,


two people active prior to day post that have not posted yet. are you two, too busy picking out a godfather?

On August 02 2009 16:05 SatouxKisei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2009 08:00 ReporterSmurf wrote:
On August 02 2009 07:32 Malongo wrote:
Come on people dont be shy. Choose your smurf!

I couldn't find myself in that picture...

Show nested quote +
On August 02 2009 08:17 BadaBing! wrote:
yoyoyoyo guess we're all posting on our smurfs now?

Edit: lol nice combo,
Posts:1,2,3
Icon: Terran, Protoss, Zerg

Show nested quote +
On August 02 2009 09:53 Detective Shinigata wrote:
am i doing it right?


three others who posted prior to day post as well.
here's a list of excuses you guys can pick out from

i didn't know game started/see the huge flashy PM sign because

1) was sleeping, time zones duh
2) oh i was on my main account, and the mafia forum is hard to access so i forgot to check it , OOPS!

On August 02 2009 16:16 SatouxKisei wrote:
Oh is that a game thing we're allowed to do? Because im 99% sure i know 3 peoples accounts.

On August 02 2009 16:25 SatouxKisei wrote:
T_T;;

On August 02 2009 16:26 SatouxKisei wrote:
T_T

On August 02 2009 16:30 SatouxKisei wrote:
oh D: sorry

On August 02 2009 16:34 SatouxKisei wrote:
as it shows im not really confident , heh.

On August 02 2009 16:57 SatouxKisei wrote:
i just posted who i thought some smurf accounts were. and i just did edit my post (ooh ~)

On August 02 2009 16:58 SatouxKisei wrote:
frowned upon not disallowed =/. not like i said OMG X IS MAFIA then edited it

On August 03 2009 00:34 SatouxKisei wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [completely useless] +
Inactivity List:

MafiaAreJerks
mOceaNu
Smurfette
Cardinal
Badabing!
OneSnakeOnATrain
lucia
glugluk
PsYchOFisH
blanket
StoneForest
Uch3k
LayOffRage
MasonBob
upeth

voted but no posts in thread(!)

+ Show Spoiler [Cardinal] +
On August 02 2009 13:03 Cardinal wrote:
I vote for Acidic Pirate
Reason: Masonbob


+ Show Spoiler [PsYchOFisH] +
On August 02 2009 18:34 PsYchOFisH wrote:
I vote for bEsT[Alive]

He annoys me.


Of the 5 people I called out for inactivity these responded(!)
ReporterSmurf
Roflsupplecakes
Detective Shinigata
Smurfette
BadaBing!

These have not bothered replying to inactive accusation
Smurfette
BadaBing!

Posted after Inactivity list was made:
+ Show Spoiler [upeth] +
On August 03 2009 00:34 upeth wrote:
Hi, just checking in for now. The town is getting pretty worked up over trying to clue analyze the Day 1 post, though. Day 1 clues are always vague, and this one gives us almost nothing to work with. I'd stick with lynching an inactive player too.

+ Show Spoiler [Smurfette] +
On August 03 2009 00:49 Smurfette wrote:
I am not entirely sure what to think. In a game of experienced players, I am very surprised to see the emphasis of Day 1 clues. This could be a result of not having an election to participate in, leaving nothing else up for speculation, but I see no use in finger pointing and arguing on the first day.

Smurfette checking in. I encourage everyone to be as active as possible, since it will be easier to single out potential mafia members or at least the inactive players.


+ Show Spoiler [BadaBing!] +
On August 03 2009 00:53 BadaBing! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2009 00:49 Smurfette wrote:
I am not entirely sure what to think. In a game of experienced players, I am very surprised to see the emphasis of Day 1 clues. This could be a result of not having an election to participate in, leaving nothing else up for speculation, but I see no use in finger pointing and arguing on the first day.

Smurfette checking in. I encourage everyone to be as active as possible, since it will be easier to single out potential mafia members or at least the inactive players.
Eh, same. I suck at clues so on the first day there really isn't much for me to do.

Ordinarily I'd try to help get whoever I felt was the best candidate for mayor elected. Although as there's no mayor this game, the only thing to do is discuss clues. In other games we could probably make decent accusations based on how people are running/how people support the candidates, but just working with clues on the first day seems a bit difficult =/

Pretty much everyone else has already figured out what I was going to say anyways, so there's not much for me to do. I promise I'll be more active after this day though.

+ Show Spoiler [Uch3k] +
On August 03 2009 01:20 Uch3k wrote:
Good morning fellow townspeople!

After a night of slumber it is finally time for me to leave my first mark here in the thread. I ask thee, off the inactivity list I must go! For now that I am no longer dreaming, I can only seek to help find the mafia, as nothing but a green townie can hope to do.

SatouxKisei, does it matter that people responded after you called them out for inactivity? The game has just started. Surely there are people who have busy lives, unable to check the status of the town as much as some of us. As this is the beginning of the game we must wait for everyone to be given the chance to post. Then we must make our decisions on who to kill. Haste makes waste even if you do taste the cake!

As was previously mentioned by our fellow Smurfette, it is nonetheless suprising to see the emphasis on Day 1 clues. Can we attribute this to lack of elected officials, thus putting the town in an awkward situation of colloquialism? I think so. Clues are very handy, but only in the right hands.

We must be careful not to tread too far into deep waters, less we drown. It is right now I am going to refer back to Sacrifice's post, as he advises us on how to stay in the shallow waters:

What role is the GF most likely to take? Townie? Vet? Unless the infected among us have some scheme, the GF is probably going to appear as a townie.

Should we compose a medic list? As I am but a green townie, there is no reason for me to be on it. A list should certainly be generated, as the are already plenty of actives who are contributing.

What's the plan for getting a confirmed innocent? Any thoughts here would greatly help the town.

These are the questions we must seek to answer!


On August 03 2009 00:51 SatouxKisei wrote:
Good. More inactives please post if you are town aligned!

On August 03 2009 00:57 SatouxKisei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2009 16:01 SatouxKisei wrote:
On August 02 2009 00:48 Smurfette wrote:
^_^;;

On August 01 2009 18:59 Roflsupplecakes wrote:
Whats wrong with this smurf, it's just something nony said one one of the tlattacks
screw you malongo,


two people active prior to day post that have not posted yet. are you two, too busy picking out a godfather?


On August 03 2009 01:01 SatouxKisei wrote:
It's okay. Post is just meant to promote activity(for now)- anyone who obliged is doing town a favor. thanks!

On August 03 2009 01:25 SatouxKisei wrote:
Show nested quote +

SatouxKisei, does it matter that people responded after you called them out for inactivity? The game has just started. Surely there are people who have busy lives, unable to check the status of the town as much as some of us. As this is the beginning of the game we must wait for everyone to be given the chance to post. Then we must make our decisions on who to kill. Haste makes waste even if you do taste the cake!

it is merely an activity incentive for a few and a reference for future accusations and or behavioral analysis. I have not accused anyone, yet.

It is important to come up with a list of suspects, however.

On August 03 2009 01:41 SatouxKisei wrote:
I specified it was a random vote, to reinforce to the mafia if they stay inactive they may be lynched.
No, i wouldn't agree it's an accusation of any sort, I plan to change my vote.

On August 03 2009 01:58 SatouxKisei wrote:
Show nested quote +

Miller - You are told that you are a townie, and you are. However, if a detective checks you, you will appear as mafia.

hurr durr ?? T_T

On August 03 2009 04:49 SatouxKisei wrote:
what the fuck

On August 03 2009 04:50 SatouxKisei wrote:
there goes that -_-

On August 03 2009 05:21 SatouxKisei wrote:


In voting thred:
On August 02 2009 10:20 SatouxKisei wrote:
Abstain for now.

On August 02 2009 10:21 SatouxKisei wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Lynch Count (anyone else feel free to…] +
DontIynchmepIease[1]
ReporterSmurf

Abstain
SatouxKisei
Spoonman
Roflsupplecakes
BadaBing!
MasonBob
LayOffRage

Sacrifice[1]
thatismanycharacters

Acidic Pirate[1]
Cardinal
MasonBob<--- from Abstain

Cardinal[1]
Acidic Pirate

thatismanycharacters[1]
bEsT[Alive]

bEsT[Alive][2]
PsYchOFisH
DontIynchmepIease

Detective Shinigata[1]
ReporterSmurf <--- from Dontlynchmeplease

OneSnakeOnATrain[1]
SatouxKisei<--- from Abstain


On August 02 2009 14:11 SatouxKisei wrote:
Show nested quote +

If anyone feels like adding race, country of origin, birthday, etc., that'd be appreciated.

but it's a smurf game.

also, can you spoiler ^that^ entire thing? :p

On August 03 2009 00:48 SatouxKisei wrote:
#I vote for OneSnakeOnATrain
Reason: random pick from inactive list.

On August 03 2009 05:02 SatouxKisei wrote:
...why?


In Smurf Town News Thread:
On August 03 2009 00:53 SatouxKisei wrote:
I have a vote list im updating in the vote thread.
Also an inactivity list in the main thread.
Thanks for this! Hopefully i can help you out along the way.


In QuickStriker's blog:
On August 02 2009 09:19 SatouxKisei wrote:
coo'

On August 02 2009 09:20 SatouxKisei wrote:
you lost your bloginity i see


Reporting your Mafia News
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17064 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-02 21:21:41
August 02 2009 21:20 GMT
#166
Anyone know when everyone will be granted access?

EDIT: Fuck, not on my smurf account.

Oh well XD
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Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
August 02 2009 21:25 GMT
#167
On August 03 2009 06:20 Empyrean wrote:
Anyone know when everyone will be granted access?

EDIT: Fuck, not on my smurf account.

Oh well XD

Plexa has recently approved another round of smurfs. There may be a few still outside the game, if you are one of these, make sure you have asked Plexa to let you in.
Acidic Pirate
Profile Joined July 2009
United States38 Posts
August 02 2009 21:33 GMT
#168
On August 03 2009 04:57 MasonBob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2009 02:04 Acidic Pirate wrote:
A quick note to the abstainers in the voting thread:

Abstaining does nothing for the town. If anything, vote for an inactive townie. He's either an inactive townie, in which case his death wouldn't mean much for us anyway, or he's mafia, in which case we have our first little victory. Besides, by voting for different people, you can see their reactions and use them to try and figure out whether or not a person is mafia or not.

So stop abstaining, and starting voting for people, if nothing else than to see their reaction.

:/

And it's not like by abstaining no one's going to die. Yes, someone is going to die anyway, so abstaining really does nothing. At the earliest stages of the game, we need all the intelligence we can get, and behavioral clues/analysis helps us determine who the mafia are.


thx for the info that ur totally mafia and want help getting rid of townies through posting about inactives
lucky for you pyr clarified that some people dont have access yet
also we need someone else to be more obvious about being mafia like you so we can have a good start on the lynch wars


I don't even know how to respond to this :/...when I first posted that, I didn't know about some people not having forum access. And still, it's solid advice. Maybe after everyone has access, check the inactives and target them.

By the way, a common tactic for mafia in previous games was to sow confusion in the townspeople. I'm not sure what exactly you're trying to accomplish, but you're playing terribly. So either get some common sense, learn how to play the game, or lose the game for all of us. Your posts aren't useful or helpful in any capacity, and if you want to help us out, you should probably work on making coherent and sensible arguments.

On August 03 2009 06:20 Empyrean wrote:
Anyone know when everyone will be granted access?

EDIT: Fuck, not on my smurf account.

Oh well XD


Ok seriously, I know it's hard sometimes, but these slip-ups could potentially ruin the game. If people manage to find out (or easily guess) identities, that kind of ruins the purpose of smurfing.

Try to keep mistakes like that to a minimum please?
All happy families are alike; every unhappy family is unhappy in its own way. --Tolstoy
SatouxKisei
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
233 Posts
August 02 2009 21:53 GMT
#169
On August 03 2009 05:59 ReporterSmurf wrote:
Breaking News:

SatouxKisei's post count is about to surpass SugiuraMidori's post count (nonsmurf). At this rate, SatouxKisei will be a marine in no time. Sat's post mostly contain one liners. Other than that he just posts smiley faces. Sat strongly opposes the inactives and wants them lynch right away. While others feel that the overly hyperactive individuals may need to lynched instead.

This has been news from the most unbias smurf news organization. Thank you reading and have fun posting!

Uhh. ok I don't really care about inactives anymore , it's kinda useless cause anyone could just say "i had no forum access, boo hoo"

I certainly don't mostly post one-liners and im fairly certain i redeem myself with huge posts?
and last, you could just ask me for my posts? i don't see why you had to waste your time looking when i have a "post" button that lists all of them.
Acidic Pirate
Profile Joined July 2009
United States38 Posts
August 02 2009 21:54 GMT
#170
Sigh, just when I got done telling people not to confuse the accounts, I accidentally posted in the BW forum. Total fail =/
All happy families are alike; every unhappy family is unhappy in its own way. --Tolstoy
SatouxKisei
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
233 Posts
August 02 2009 21:59 GMT
#171


This has been news from the most unbias smurf news organization.

organization? you mean people actually collaborated to create that pile of drivel? =/
SatouxKisei
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
233 Posts
August 02 2009 22:04 GMT
#172
do you even know what a "one-liner" is? it's a short joke. Other than my 3 one-liners prior to the day post i posted none. I could just go ahead and tear apart your entire pathetic post -_-
KomabaHajime
Profile Joined July 2009
Japan18 Posts
August 02 2009 22:21 GMT
#173
sheesh, I go to sleep, get up and see random accusations flying everywhere.

To those spending time on day 1 clues, doesn't seem like its something to concentrate on. Not much there, and the last few games seem to have useless day one clues until you compare them to later in the game.

Instead we should be looking at peoples behaviour to this point.
to name a few general names
best[alive]
detective shinigata
cardinal

Best[alive] is there due to being insanely brutish with his posts, yet providing almost no help. He argues clue analysis day 1 (which normally isn't reliable as behavioural day 1), and has brought up the idea of indian red dot idea that people are running with, insanely far stretch imo and seems very antitown.

detective shinigata has just had some bad analysis, most likely failing at helping.

cardinal for voting based on a reasoning of masonbob, guess what, masonbob hadn't posted at that point linking anything, which means that cardinal and masonbob are working together closely already (usually only mafia are the only ones able to work that closely), and seems like a slipup on his part.

I would strongly suggest we sit down and analyze behaviourally, or find some obvious openings before we start random voting, which is what we have now.
Everything was to force the wolf into playing his hand
LayOffRage
Profile Joined July 2009
52 Posts
August 02 2009 22:59 GMT
#174
Alright, so I just got my access to the forum. This is good. To start things off lets get some shit strait.

NOT EVERYONE HAS ACCESS TO THE FORUM YET. I just got mine earlier. I am currently abstaining, I see no point in voting yet. Day one clues suck, and pyrrs not going to clue rape after last game he played in.

I saw some talk about medic protection in this game, and how it doesn't 100% confirm someone as innocent because the mafia can hit themselves.

This is retarded, the mafia has 3 hits, for this awesome situation to work, they would have to have to predict the medic protecting a mafia, then WASTE a hit hitting there own mafia in the HOPE that is actually protected or they just killed one of their own.

If they can arrange all that, chances are they know who the medic is and can kill him or get into a circle of trust in an easier way.

Now if a medic actually does protect someone who gets hit, you fucking role call that person. Start some conversation. I find its always good to have someone to bounce ideas off of. Two is usually better, I have only seen one situation where someone ended up talking to two mafias.

So talk to people however you want. Don't reveal your role under any circumstance except with the aforementioned situation. A medic correctly protecting is rare anyway, if it actually happens jump on it. Yeah its not 100% but its as damn close as your going to get.


With that out of the way, day one clues suck. Search the inactives for someone who might link up and kill him. The worst that can happen is we kill an inactive and narrow down who the clue applies to.

With that said, most clues aren't going to make sense until we have more to work with, like day two or three clues in conjunction with everything.

And everyone, read posts carefully and think for yourself, really think if something TRULY makes sense. Don't fall into retarded bandwagons just becuase you see a wall of text with a bunch of god damn colors and then people start bandwagoning it. Thats what zombies do. Don't be a zombie, because your just going to get us killed.

With that said, I really won't really post much more until the next day. I am actually not even going to look for clues tonight, since I feel its useless and a waste of time. When we get our next set of clues I will start searching. With that said, lets get some mafia killed.
ACRO!@! Weakness is a sin~~
PowerOverwhelming
Profile Joined July 2009
Korea (North)14 Posts
August 02 2009 23:03 GMT
#175
On August 03 2009 07:21 KomabaHajime wrote:
sheesh, I go to sleep, get up and see random accusations flying everywhere.

To those spending time on day 1 clues, doesn't seem like its something to concentrate on. Not much there, and the last few games seem to have useless day one clues until you compare them to later in the game.

Instead we should be looking at peoples behaviour to this point.
to name a few general names
best[alive]
detective shinigata
cardinal

Best[alive] is there due to being insanely brutish with his posts, yet providing almost no help. He argues clue analysis day 1 (which normally isn't reliable as behavioural day 1), and has brought up the idea of indian red dot idea that people are running with, insanely far stretch imo and seems very antitown.

detective shinigata has just had some bad analysis, most likely failing at helping.

cardinal for voting based on a reasoning of masonbob, guess what, masonbob hadn't posted at that point linking anything, which means that cardinal and masonbob are working together closely already (usually only mafia are the only ones able to work that closely), and seems like a slipup on his part.

I would strongly suggest we sit down and analyze behaviourally, or find some obvious openings before we start random voting, which is what we have now.

Best's agreesive style makes him unlikely to be mafia. Anyone doing that as mafia would have to be a complete idiot to throw out random accusations and add crappy clue analysis while drawing attention to themselves.

I'm putting best down as a stupid townie and highly unlikely to be mafia at this point.
Moon Prism POWER -Sailor Moon
ReporterSmurf
Profile Joined July 2009
42 Posts
August 02 2009 23:04 GMT
#176
Interview with SatouxKisei:

+ Show Spoiler +
ReporterSmurf: Ok, first question. What exactly is your role in the smurf society?

SatouxKisei: I don't roleclaim. Next question!

ReporterSmurf: When was the last time you visited the doctor?

SatouxKisei: ...2 months ago... but how is this possibly relevant and not drivel(useless) :O

ReporterSmurf: Well, our viewers want answers. They want to know whether or not you have any social disorders. Rumors are spreading over the internet that your hyperactivity has something to do with a social disorder. Can you clear up these accusations of you having a social disorder that makes you hyperactive?

SatouxKisei: i thought this was an interview not a troll

ReporterSmurf: I don't understand what you mean..This is an interview - if you don't feel comfortable answering the question then I understand *gives a sincere look and pats Satouxkisei* Its okay..I'll go to the next questoin, Who do you think is most likely mafia at this point?

SatouxKisei:
"to make a short list of suspects

Uch3k
he came in and just repeated a lot of things, gave an excuse, then promptly left the spotlight.

cardinal
voting list, weird. plus he doesn't seem too bright , granted he only posted twice, and voted without even looking/posting in thread.

Psychofish
ReporterSmurf
Roflsupplecakes
Detective Shinigata
Smurfette
BadaBing!
(from inactive list, etc.)

I'm not really confident but that's who i think anyways. im pretty sure bEsT[Alive] is town aligned and people who voted for him are
PsYchOFisH
DontIynchmepIease

that concludes my "short" list of suspects."

ReporterSmurf: Thank you for your time, I think that about ends our interview. And last comments?

SatouxKisei: No

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glugluk
Profile Joined July 2009
Qatar27 Posts
August 02 2009 23:46 GMT
#177
So...hi everyone. Haven't finished reading all the posts yet but I'm here to reveal my plan. While I cannot reveal all the parts of my plan, I will say what my plan will do. We will get two confirmed townies who can be kept alive for the first few days so that we can get a system going. How? By having the two veterans publically claiming. If this plan works we will have two confirmed vets who can be medic protected day one. We might also have a good lynch candidate, something that rarely ever happens on day one. Again, like I said I cannot reveal exactly how this will work. But if you trust me it will work. So please, if your role is veteran please claim ASAP. We need to get up a power structure quickly if we are to get something going in this game. Especially since we don't have mayoral elections to stimulate day one activity.
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Azura
Profile Joined July 2009
36 Posts
August 03 2009 00:00 GMT
#178
On August 03 2009 04:17 PowerOverwhelming wrote:
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On August 03 2009 01:45 Azura wrote:
On August 02 2009 21:12 Sacrifice wrote:
Okay. So we have unlimited role checks. That's good. Mafia can "frame" a townie(should be called this, not cover) every night. That's bad. Godfather can appear as anything he wants to. That's bad as well.

Basically, role checks in general cannot be trusted, at least alone. Millers appear as red, Godfather fan frame/cover people, and he himself can still appear as whatever he wants to. DTs still should R/C almost every night, clue checking pretty much only when we need the godfather... Or if there's a really certain clue about someone who was R/C'd to be town. Vigilante should save his hit for a few days until we have a couple of good targets.

Right now, we need to establish a couple of things. First off, what role is the Godfather most likely to appear as and what would benefit him the most? Townie would be the normal, safe choice, but what are the chances that he would appear as, say, a DT or a Medic?

Second, we might have to compose some kind of a medic list for the Medics, although that's not really that high of a priority because this is a vet game and the medics should be reasonably experienced.

And lastly, what are our plans for getting a confirmed townie? Mafia is able to hit themselves in this game, so medic block confirmation doesn't work. Actually, I doubt they'd hit themselves with only 3 KP available to them, so scratch that. Medic block can be considered almost a 100% confimation. Vigilante hit and connecting clues is the obvious choice, but that shouldn't be done until later, when we have enough targets to that a vigi hit would be useful. We also can't confirm the amount of blue roles, only the amount of Mafia, so the benefits aren't as high as they normally would. The confirmed townie would still be useful for acting as a mouth for the DT's, for instance.


Yeah, i think the lack of mayor combined with the "inaccuracy" of rolechecks this game could be part of the reason why the kp is a bit lower. I think the only reason the GF would cover himself as DT would be to lure out other DT's into checking him, and then get them killed. Posing as a medic doesn't seem to offer any such incentive, at least that I can think of, because he wouldn't be able to effectively pretend to use the role. I guess if a DT checked him and he popped up medic, the gf might be able to catch the dt. GF has to play a lot smarter to stay undercover as a blue though, so I guess it depends on whether the mafia wants to play it safe or not.

The vigi hit clue is really the only way I can think of for confirming a townie as well. Still, that sort of strategy comes with the problems of drawing the medic protection away from other players, and I doubt there are any more than 2 medics this round.

There are tons of reasons to fake medic for the gf. Medics are (potentially) such a good role that the town would never lynch a real medic. Also, medics have sucked so much in the past that it would be ridiculously easy to fake.

In one game, even without being a gf, attackzerg managed to fake medic and delay his lynch for a day and get a circle of blues trusting him leading to a complete massacre.

So yes, the odds are that the mafia will choose medic for the gf because after a check, its so unlikely they'll die and its so easy to fake.


Hm, i didn't think it all the way through. I thought that since the person saved gets a PM, it would only work if they got protected by a real medic. But obviously all the mafia has to do is not hit whoever the gf is "protecting." Derp.
"The eye seldom sees what the mind does not anticipate"- Proverb
Azura
Profile Joined July 2009
36 Posts
August 03 2009 00:03 GMT
#179
EBWOP: since there's no role reveal upon death, only alignment reveal, I think I would be right in thinking that GF posing as a blue is a much more powerful move.
"The eye seldom sees what the mind does not anticipate"- Proverb
Sacrifice
Profile Joined July 2009
10 Posts
August 03 2009 00:11 GMT
#180
On August 03 2009 00:03 ReporterSmurf wrote:
News Update:

So far Day 1 clues have been why too obvious and mafia is panicing. They had to use almost half of its member to get people to stop looking at the clues. Fortunately, Sacrifice was able to make a long post to distract the town away from the clues. The red dot clue has been getting a lot of attention as mafia fake argue with each other and laugh about it secretly to themselves.


Complete garbage. It's known that day 1 clues suck. My post is one of the only useful posts on the thread, talking about numerous things that are important for the town to take care of instead of the typical spam or useless analysis. You seem like a mafia trying to spew bullshit or a dumb townie with way too large of an ego for being as wrong as you are.

Only like 2 people actually addressed my last post. Don't you see that the issues in it are imperative for the town's success? Nice post by LayOffRage, the post is completely correct.

On August 03 2009 08:46 glugluk wrote:
So...hi everyone. Haven't finished reading all the posts yet but I'm here to reveal my plan. While I cannot reveal all the parts of my plan, I will say what my plan will do. We will get two confirmed townies who can be kept alive for the first few days so that we can get a system going. How? By having the two veterans publically claiming. If this plan works we will have two confirmed vets who can be medic protected day one. We might also have a good lynch candidate, something that rarely ever happens on day one. Again, like I said I cannot reveal exactly how this will work. But if you trust me it will work. So please, if your role is veteran please claim ASAP. We need to get up a power structure quickly if we are to get something going in this game. Especially since we don't have mayoral elections to stimulate day one activity.


Hi. Tell us your plan. What if the mafia claim to be Veterans? It can't be confirmed, and they might get into the town circle. Sounds like a bad plan especially without more information.


Now the most important thing: EVERYONE has to decide who to vote. TOGETHER. If we just vote random people, Mafia has 6!!! votes that they can throw at one person if needed!!! If we don't vote for one person, Mafia will just vote for the townie suspect! We need to vote together, otherwise we're GUARANTEED!!!!! to lose a townie!!! Understand this!!!

Some potential suspects:

ReporterSmurf - Makes no sense and seems to attempt to confuse the town

SatouxKisei - spammer, seemingly active but posts nothing of value.

MasonBob - Stupid reply to Acidic Pirate's post.

Town HAS to decide on who to vote, IF WE DON'T, WE'RE 100% GUARANTEED TO END UP LYNCHING A TOWN ROLE!!!!!!
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