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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-03 00:16:36
August 03 2009 00:16 GMT
#181
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Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
glugluk
Profile Joined July 2009
Qatar27 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-03 00:19:21
August 03 2009 00:18 GMT
#182
On August 03 2009 09:11 Sacrifice wrote:

Show nested quote +
On August 03 2009 08:46 glugluk wrote:
So...hi everyone. Haven't finished reading all the posts yet but I'm here to reveal my plan. While I cannot reveal all the parts of my plan, I will say what my plan will do. We will get two confirmed townies who can be kept alive for the first few days so that we can get a system going. How? By having the two veterans publically claiming. If this plan works we will have two confirmed vets who can be medic protected day one. We might also have a good lynch candidate, something that rarely ever happens on day one. Again, like I said I cannot reveal exactly how this will work. But if you trust me it will work. So please, if your role is veteran please claim ASAP. We need to get up a power structure quickly if we are to get something going in this game. Especially since we don't have mayoral elections to stimulate day one activity.


Hi. Tell us your plan. What if the mafia claim to be Veterans? It can't be confirmed, and they might get into the town circle. Sounds like a bad plan especially without more information.


Like I said, I cannot tell you the specifics of my plan. However, I have made precautions against mafia claiming vets. Trust me, I know what I'm doing.

*edited because of quote tag error
^See my name? This way you won't be able to take me seriously!
ReporterSmurf
Profile Joined July 2009
42 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-03 00:22:09
August 03 2009 00:21 GMT
#183
If your so worried about lynching a town role why don't you just lynch me? Isn't obvious that my news are jokes? yet a few people are taking them seriously, geez. If you don't like them then you should just vote for me to stop in the poll I made in my interview post.
Reporting your Mafia News
Sacrifice
Profile Joined July 2009
10 Posts
August 03 2009 00:22 GMT
#184
On August 03 2009 09:18 glugluk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2009 09:11 Sacrifice wrote:

On August 03 2009 08:46 glugluk wrote:
So...hi everyone. Haven't finished reading all the posts yet but I'm here to reveal my plan. While I cannot reveal all the parts of my plan, I will say what my plan will do. We will get two confirmed townies who can be kept alive for the first few days so that we can get a system going. How? By having the two veterans publically claiming. If this plan works we will have two confirmed vets who can be medic protected day one. We might also have a good lynch candidate, something that rarely ever happens on day one. Again, like I said I cannot reveal exactly how this will work. But if you trust me it will work. So please, if your role is veteran please claim ASAP. We need to get up a power structure quickly if we are to get something going in this game. Especially since we don't have mayoral elections to stimulate day one activity.


Hi. Tell us your plan. What if the mafia claim to be Veterans? It can't be confirmed, and they might get into the town circle. Sounds like a bad plan especially without more information.


Like I said, I cannot tell you the specifics of my plan. However, I have made precautions against mafia claiming vets. Trust me, I know what I'm doing.

*edited because of quote tag error

Sounds fishy. Well, I'm waiting for your plan. Hopefully vets don't claim until you reveal it.
" When you're dead, you're dead. That's it. " - Marlene Dietrich
Sacrifice
Profile Joined July 2009
10 Posts
August 03 2009 00:24 GMT
#185
On August 03 2009 09:21 ReporterSmurf wrote:
If your so worried about lynching a town role why don't you just lynch me? Isn't obvious that my news are jokes? yet a few people are taking them seriously, geez. If you don't like them then you should just vote for me to stop in the poll I made in my interview post.

Falls in the cathegory of appearing to post content but actually not accomplishing anything. Fake activity. Do you think it's the better plan to have 3 votes on 10 different people and have the mafia sway the vote towards a townie near the end? We need to choose someone.
" When you're dead, you're dead. That's it. " - Marlene Dietrich
SatouxKisei
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
233 Posts
August 03 2009 00:41 GMT
#186
-___- i was doing ok with my inactive plan until it got fucked over
jesus if nothing i post is of value i just won't fucking post then goood fucking riddance.
glugluk
Profile Joined July 2009
Qatar27 Posts
August 03 2009 00:41 GMT
#187
On August 03 2009 09:22 Sacrifice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2009 09:18 glugluk wrote:
On August 03 2009 09:11 Sacrifice wrote:

On August 03 2009 08:46 glugluk wrote:
So...hi everyone. Haven't finished reading all the posts yet but I'm here to reveal my plan. While I cannot reveal all the parts of my plan, I will say what my plan will do. We will get two confirmed townies who can be kept alive for the first few days so that we can get a system going. How? By having the two veterans publically claiming. If this plan works we will have two confirmed vets who can be medic protected day one. We might also have a good lynch candidate, something that rarely ever happens on day one. Again, like I said I cannot reveal exactly how this will work. But if you trust me it will work. So please, if your role is veteran please claim ASAP. We need to get up a power structure quickly if we are to get something going in this game. Especially since we don't have mayoral elections to stimulate day one activity.


Hi. Tell us your plan. What if the mafia claim to be Veterans? It can't be confirmed, and they might get into the town circle. Sounds like a bad plan especially without more information.


Like I said, I cannot tell you the specifics of my plan. However, I have made precautions against mafia claiming vets. Trust me, I know what I'm doing.

*edited because of quote tag error

Sounds fishy. Well, I'm waiting for your plan. Hopefully vets don't claim until you reveal it.


So you want the mafia to know what the plan is? The reason why this plan works is not because of a loophole in the rules that creates a foolproof plan. The plan works on how people act. I don't expect everyone to trust me, in fact I expect most people to criticize the plan. I'm not revealing it because it doesn't make sense to be revealed. However, I do hope people do discuss the merits of vets claiming. What can go right? What can go wrong? If something goes wrong what are the consequences?
^See my name? This way you won't be able to take me seriously!
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-03 00:49:09
August 03 2009 00:48 GMT
#188

Crap.
Uff Da
bEsT[Alive]
Profile Joined July 2009
606 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-03 01:07:40
August 03 2009 00:52 GMT
#189
On August 03 2009 07:21 KomabaHajime wrote:
Best[alive] is there due to being insanely brutish with his posts, yet providing almost no help. He argues clue analysis day 1 (which normally isn't reliable as behavioural day 1), and has brought up the idea of indian red dot idea that people are running with, insanely far stretch imo and seems very antitown.


I've done far more than anyone else you clown. Wake up and smell the fricking coffee. Several people have been PMing already.

Do us a favor and leave it to the experts.

You want to be counterproductive? Not on my watch.

I'm still waiting on a few more players to check in with me.

The good players should know who I am by now. I'm not trying to hide it at all.

EDIT: I agree with the guy above. You've already made your intentions public hence it's a bad plan.

Traps are good for two purposes:

1) matching up smurf accounts with real ID's.

2) catching mafia.

Your Vet plan won't work for several reasons. One being you gave them the leg up on us. Good job.

Another thing.. can you guys stop screwing up? Shit, why don't you tell everyone who you are while you're at it. Jesus.
If you obey all the rules you miss all the fun - Katharine Hepburn
Spoonman
Profile Joined July 2009
10 Posts
August 03 2009 01:06 GMT
#190
On August 03 2009 09:41 glugluk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2009 09:22 Sacrifice wrote:
On August 03 2009 09:18 glugluk wrote:
On August 03 2009 09:11 Sacrifice wrote:

On August 03 2009 08:46 glugluk wrote:
So...hi everyone. Haven't finished reading all the posts yet but I'm here to reveal my plan. While I cannot reveal all the parts of my plan, I will say what my plan will do. We will get two confirmed townies who can be kept alive for the first few days so that we can get a system going. How? By having the two veterans publically claiming. If this plan works we will have two confirmed vets who can be medic protected day one. We might also have a good lynch candidate, something that rarely ever happens on day one. Again, like I said I cannot reveal exactly how this will work. But if you trust me it will work. So please, if your role is veteran please claim ASAP. We need to get up a power structure quickly if we are to get something going in this game. Especially since we don't have mayoral elections to stimulate day one activity.


Hi. Tell us your plan. What if the mafia claim to be Veterans? It can't be confirmed, and they might get into the town circle. Sounds like a bad plan especially without more information.


Like I said, I cannot tell you the specifics of my plan. However, I have made precautions against mafia claiming vets. Trust me, I know what I'm doing.

*edited because of quote tag error

Sounds fishy. Well, I'm waiting for your plan. Hopefully vets don't claim until you reveal it.


So you want the mafia to know what the plan is? The reason why this plan works is not because of a loophole in the rules that creates a foolproof plan. The plan works on how people act. I don't expect everyone to trust me, in fact I expect most people to criticize the plan. I'm not revealing it because it doesn't make sense to be revealed. However, I do hope people do discuss the merits of vets claiming. What can go right? What can go wrong? If something goes wrong what are the consequences?

I already pmed you and this is plain obvious to me: Theres a lot more gain to mafia if the veterans are public. With 3 kp you cant go fucking around sending double hits. If a hit is blocked by a veteran or medic mafia is forced to guess on another hit on the same target risking another lost hit if the guy is protected next night. But in case veterans are public with medic protection mafia can send sure 1 hits to anyone they want and leave the veterans alone for as long as the game goes. Plus you are asking the town to blindly trust yourself.
Veterans Get Active And Dont Fucking Roleclaim. DONT.
The tongue is a sharp knife... Kills without drawing blood. Buddha
MasonBob
Profile Joined July 2009
Iceland11 Posts
August 03 2009 01:18 GMT
#191
i believe my last post was grossly misunderstood
what i meant by beating on acidic pirate about the lynching of inactives was how often in any past games has that ever killed a mafia and not a townie
i just tacked on the post about some folks not having access as a stupid method to back up the faulty logic inherent in lynching inactives in an invite game
we need to find someone that can do good behavioral analysis to take care of finding someone out as everyone has pointed out that first day clues are useless to try to analyze and pin to a mafia thus behavioral has a higher chance


as for role claiming to anyone it stands a chance if you would role claim to a mafia like what has happened to qatol in previous games allowing the mafia to vote off stronger or blue players instead of the townies


the whole rushing to lynch inactives nonsense seems to stem from the same players that played in pyrs last game which got them nowhere and inevitably lost town the game
those that bother to post a bunch could still be anyone even with chances being higher for behavioral analysis but if no one plans to play the same as they have on main accounts it wont matter much
Real men build things with their hands. If you cant get down and dirty with your project you should live with your mothers.
Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-03 01:22:31
August 03 2009 01:20 GMT
#192
i.e. Ver and Showtime.

Hi.

EDIT: Great, now I've joined the screw-up club. Golden!

Pi just had to start his game while another one was going on.

Whoopee!
Mini skirt season is right around the corner. ☻
Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
August 03 2009 01:46 GMT
#193
Hi?
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glugluk
Profile Joined July 2009
Qatar27 Posts
August 03 2009 01:48 GMT
#194
On August 03 2009 09:52 bEsT[Alive] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2009 07:21 KomabaHajime wrote:
Best[alive] is there due to being insanely brutish with his posts, yet providing almost no help. He argues clue analysis day 1 (which normally isn't reliable as behavioural day 1), and has brought up the idea of indian red dot idea that people are running with, insanely far stretch imo and seems very antitown.


I've done far more than anyone else you clown. Wake up and smell the fricking coffee. Several people have been PMing already.

Do us a favor and leave it to the experts.

You want to be counterproductive? Not on my watch.

I'm still waiting on a few more players to check in with me.

The good players should know who I am by now. I'm not trying to hide it at all.

EDIT: I agree with the guy above. You've already made your intentions public hence it's a bad plan.

Traps are good for two purposes:

1) matching up smurf accounts with real ID's.

2) catching mafia.

Your Vet plan won't work for several reasons. One being you gave them the leg up on us. Good job.

Another thing.. can you guys stop screwing up? Shit, why don't you tell everyone who you are while you're at it. Jesus.


Wait a sec...who is "the guy above?" The guy who just edited his post or me? What did that post say? Cuz this is really getting confusing people...

Anyway if you're talking about my plan, its not a trap. Its a plan to get confirmed townies. If someone could fill in the gaps as to what qatol said...

How did I give them a leg up on us? Or is this in response to your postulate that my plan is a "trap"?

On August 03 2009 10:06 Spoonman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2009 09:41 glugluk wrote:
On August 03 2009 09:22 Sacrifice wrote:
On August 03 2009 09:18 glugluk wrote:
On August 03 2009 09:11 Sacrifice wrote:

On August 03 2009 08:46 glugluk wrote:
So...hi everyone. Haven't finished reading all the posts yet but I'm here to reveal my plan. While I cannot reveal all the parts of my plan, I will say what my plan will do. We will get two confirmed townies who can be kept alive for the first few days so that we can get a system going. How? By having the two veterans publically claiming. If this plan works we will have two confirmed vets who can be medic protected day one. We might also have a good lynch candidate, something that rarely ever happens on day one. Again, like I said I cannot reveal exactly how this will work. But if you trust me it will work. So please, if your role is veteran please claim ASAP. We need to get up a power structure quickly if we are to get something going in this game. Especially since we don't have mayoral elections to stimulate day one activity.


Hi. Tell us your plan. What if the mafia claim to be Veterans? It can't be confirmed, and they might get into the town circle. Sounds like a bad plan especially without more information.


Like I said, I cannot tell you the specifics of my plan. However, I have made precautions against mafia claiming vets. Trust me, I know what I'm doing.

*edited because of quote tag error

Sounds fishy. Well, I'm waiting for your plan. Hopefully vets don't claim until you reveal it.


So you want the mafia to know what the plan is? The reason why this plan works is not because of a loophole in the rules that creates a foolproof plan. The plan works on how people act. I don't expect everyone to trust me, in fact I expect most people to criticize the plan. I'm not revealing it because it doesn't make sense to be revealed. However, I do hope people do discuss the merits of vets claiming. What can go right? What can go wrong? If something goes wrong what are the consequences?

I already pmed you and this is plain obvious to me: Theres a lot more gain to mafia if the veterans are public. With 3 kp you cant go fucking around sending double hits. If a hit is blocked by a veteran or medic mafia is forced to guess on another hit on the same target risking another lost hit if the guy is protected next night. But in case veterans are public with medic protection mafia can send sure 1 hits to anyone they want and leave the veterans alone for as long as the game goes. Plus you are asking the town to blindly trust yourself.
Veterans Get Active And Dont Fucking Roleclaim. DONT.


Ok, so the mafia get to hit anyone else other than the vets. So they just leave the vets alone? Once you find the mafia imposter vet, then you got people to roleclaim to. Which makes the town a lot more coordinated. Better than having random blue roles claiming to mafia. Town organization is critical to many town wins. Infinite rolechecks can be powerful...but only if used correctly and if they are coordinated.

I am not asking people to trust me with roles or anything. I am not asking to run the game. I want to get the town leadership in the right hands so we can get an edge up on the mafia.
^See my name? This way you won't be able to take me seriously!
bEsT[Alive]
Profile Joined July 2009
606 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-03 01:58:04
August 03 2009 01:57 GMT
#195
You do realize our detectives are more important than vets who can take one for the team any night?

Odds are they won't die until they get hit two nights. They can let us know when they've taken a hit.

This puts the game in our court. Not the mafias.

Anyway, Qatol I'm still waiting for you to PM me man. -_-

EDIT: You too Ver.
If you obey all the rules you miss all the fun - Katharine Hepburn
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
August 03 2009 01:57 GMT
#196
On August 03 2009 10:48 glugluk wrote:
Wait a sec...who is "the guy above?" The guy who just edited his post or me? What did that post say? Cuz this is really getting confusing people...

Anyway if you're talking about my plan, its not a trap. Its a plan to get confirmed townies. If someone could fill in the gaps as to what qatol said...

Or not because this account isn't a smurf? (i.e. I screwed up)
Uff Da
glugluk
Profile Joined July 2009
Qatar27 Posts
August 03 2009 02:22 GMT
#197
On August 03 2009 10:57 Qatol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2009 10:48 glugluk wrote:
Wait a sec...who is "the guy above?" The guy who just edited his post or me? What did that post say? Cuz this is really getting confusing people...

Anyway if you're talking about my plan, its not a trap. Its a plan to get confirmed townies. If someone could fill in the gaps as to what qatol said...

Or not because this account isn't a smurf? (i.e. I screwed up)


Ok, it isn't a smurf, but then why is bEsT[Alive] waiting for your pm/talking about your message/not clarifying who is "the guy above"? Still? He just posted...and didn't answer. This smurf stuff is getting pretty funky already...Are smurfs allowed to talk to non-smurf accounts?
^See my name? This way you won't be able to take me seriously!
glugluk
Profile Joined July 2009
Qatar27 Posts
August 03 2009 02:22 GMT
#198
On August 03 2009 10:57 bEsT[Alive] wrote:
You do realize our detectives are more important than vets who can take one for the team any night?

Odds are they won't die until they get hit two nights. They can let us know when they've taken a hit.

This puts the game in our court. Not the mafias.

Anyway, Qatol I'm still waiting for you to PM me man. -_-

EDIT: You too Ver.


um...you are contradicting yourself? DTs are more important then vets...so why not out the vets so DTs have a mouth to send out their informations?
^See my name? This way you won't be able to take me seriously!
bEsT[Alive]
Profile Joined July 2009
606 Posts
August 03 2009 02:28 GMT
#199
No I'm not. DTs have more worth than Vets in the bigger picture. Mafia have 3 KP. They aren't going to waste their fucking hits man. No way. Vets don't need protection until they notify us that they've been hit. The DTs will have a mouth by the end of Night 1 unless they get car jacked. Odds of that happening are slim.
If you obey all the rules you miss all the fun - Katharine Hepburn
Cardinal
Profile Joined July 2009
United States7 Posts
August 03 2009 02:36 GMT
#200
On August 03 2009 11:28 bEsT[Alive] wrote:
No I'm not. DTs have more worth than Vets in the bigger picture. Mafia have 3 KP. They aren't going to waste their fucking hits man. No way. Vets don't need protection until they notify us that they've been hit. The DTs will have a mouth by the end of Night 1 unless they get car jacked. Odds of that happening are slim.

what the hell are you talking about
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