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Roflsupplecakes
Korea (South)15 Posts
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SatouxKisei
233 Posts
On August 02 2009 16:01 SatouxKisei wrote: two people active prior to day post that have not posted yet. are you two, too busy picking out a godfather? | ||
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Smurfette
Guam15 Posts
To be honest I missed this too. | ||
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SatouxKisei
233 Posts
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Uch3k
21 Posts
After a night of slumber it is finally time for me to leave my first mark here in the thread. I ask thee, off the inactivity list I must go! For now that I am no longer dreaming, I can only seek to help find the mafia, as nothing but a green townie can hope to do. SatouxKisei, does it matter that people responded after you called them out for inactivity? The game has just started. Surely there are people who have busy lives, unable to check the status of the town as much as some of us. As this is the beginning of the game we must wait for everyone to be given the chance to post. Then we must make our decisions on who to kill. Haste makes waste even if you do taste the cake! As was previously mentioned by our fellow Smurfette, it is nonetheless suprising to see the emphasis on Day 1 clues. Can we attribute this to lack of elected officials, thus putting the town in an awkward situation of colloquialism? I think so. Clues are very handy, but only in the right hands. We must be careful not to tread too far into deep waters, less we drown. It is right now I am going to refer back to Sacrifice's post, as he advises us on how to stay in the shallow waters: What role is the GF most likely to take? Townie? Vet? Unless the infected among us have some scheme, the GF is probably going to appear as a townie. Should we compose a medic list? As I am but a green townie, there is no reason for me to be on it. A list should certainly be generated, as the are already plenty of actives who are contributing. What's the plan for getting a confirmed innocent? Any thoughts here would greatly help the town. These are the questions we must seek to answer! | ||
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SatouxKisei
233 Posts
SatouxKisei, does it matter that people responded after you called them out for inactivity? The game has just started. Surely there are people who have busy lives, unable to check the status of the town as much as some of us. As this is the beginning of the game we must wait for everyone to be given the chance to post. Then we must make our decisions on who to kill. Haste makes waste even if you do taste the cake! it is merely an activity incentive for a few and a reference for future accusations and or behavioral analysis. I have not accused anyone, yet. It is important to come up with a list of suspects, however. | ||
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Azura
36 Posts
On August 02 2009 20:10 Detective Shinigata wrote: Azura = google azura = first hit http://www.azura-retreats.com/ = Luxury eco-boutique Indian Ocean Island Hotel = Red dot on forehead = Indian? (this is based on pyyr's last game where on day 1 he used the first hit on google of a mafioso as a clue) Not that it even matters because this line of thinking is utterly retarded, but the first google result for Azura is the entry in the Elder Scrolls wiki for the goddess Azura. Don't spread lies, thanks. | ||
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Uch3k
21 Posts
On August 03 2009 01:25 SatouxKisei wrote: it is merely an activity incentive for a few and a reference for future accusations and or behavioral analysis. I have not accused anyone, yet. It is important to come up with a list of suspects, however. Is a vote, particularly for OneSnakeOnATrain, not an accusation in itself? | ||
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SatouxKisei
233 Posts
No, i wouldn't agree it's an accusation of any sort, I plan to change my vote. | ||
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Azura
36 Posts
On August 02 2009 21:12 Sacrifice wrote: Okay. So we have unlimited role checks. That's good. Mafia can "frame" a townie(should be called this, not cover) every night. That's bad. Godfather can appear as anything he wants to. That's bad as well. Basically, role checks in general cannot be trusted, at least alone. Millers appear as red, Godfather fan frame/cover people, and he himself can still appear as whatever he wants to. DTs still should R/C almost every night, clue checking pretty much only when we need the godfather... Or if there's a really certain clue about someone who was R/C'd to be town. Vigilante should save his hit for a few days until we have a couple of good targets. Right now, we need to establish a couple of things. First off, what role is the Godfather most likely to appear as and what would benefit him the most? Townie would be the normal, safe choice, but what are the chances that he would appear as, say, a DT or a Medic? Second, we might have to compose some kind of a medic list for the Medics, although that's not really that high of a priority because this is a vet game and the medics should be reasonably experienced. And lastly, what are our plans for getting a confirmed townie? Mafia is able to hit themselves in this game, so medic block confirmation doesn't work. Actually, I doubt they'd hit themselves with only 3 KP available to them, so scratch that. Medic block can be considered almost a 100% confimation. Vigilante hit and connecting clues is the obvious choice, but that shouldn't be done until later, when we have enough targets to that a vigi hit would be useful. We also can't confirm the amount of blue roles, only the amount of Mafia, so the benefits aren't as high as they normally would. The confirmed townie would still be useful for acting as a mouth for the DT's, for instance. Yeah, i think the lack of mayor combined with the "inaccuracy" of rolechecks this game could be part of the reason why the kp is a bit lower. I think the only reason the GF would cover himself as DT would be to lure out other DT's into checking him, and then get them killed. Posing as a medic doesn't seem to offer any such incentive, at least that I can think of, because he wouldn't be able to effectively pretend to use the role. I guess if a DT checked him and he popped up medic, the gf might be able to catch the dt. GF has to play a lot smarter to stay undercover as a blue though, so I guess it depends on whether the mafia wants to play it safe or not. The vigi hit clue is really the only way I can think of for confirming a townie as well. Still, that sort of strategy comes with the problems of drawing the medic protection away from other players, and I doubt there are any more than 2 medics this round. | ||
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ReporterSmurf
42 Posts
The sun began to crawl up the eastern skyline of Smurf City to a chorus of sirens, both of the police car and ambulance variety. The story takes place after Pyrrhuloxia's death when the sun is coming up. crawling is an unusual word for describing the sun's movement. Detective Pyrrhuloxia dragged his tired body into police headquarters at 5:00 AM sharp, and couldn't finish pouring himself a cup of coffee before he was forced to look at two murder report folders that were thrust into his hands: the folders, labeled Plexa and Bockit, were mostly empty. Now the flashback happens which explains why its 5:00 AM - where the sun probably isn't up yet. As you can see there was a police car in the previous scene. I guess other police officers don't get up as early as Pyrrhuloxia - he must have been really disciplined. Or perhaps they are in headquarters but weren't mentioned. "We've got nothin'?!" exclaimed Pyrrhuloxia, exasperated. uh oh someone hasn't been doing his job "We're pretty sure the perpetrator or perpetrators are blue," the intern managed. I wonder how many are working on the case and if one of them is mafia. "Well, no shit, Sherlock, everyone in town is blue! It's a city of Smurfs!" yelled Pyrrhuloxia, now fuming. "If you won't do your job, I guess I'll have to get out there and investigate!" hmm, Sherlock... could that mean the intern is..ah nah But before he could leave the room, a red dot appeared on his forehead. A moment later, he was dead. Usually when a red dot appears on someone's head and then a moment later they die, it usually means they were either sniped or kill with a laser pistol. omg Pyrrhuloxia died right when he was about to go investigate the scene! Sounds fishy. By why would mafia give him the folders? So maybe it is a sniper who has night vision. But then again, we didn't hear any glass break.. | ||
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SatouxKisei
233 Posts
Miller - You are told that you are a townie, and you are. However, if a detective checks you, you will appear as mafia. hurr durr ?? T_T | ||
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Acidic Pirate
United States38 Posts
Abstaining does nothing for the town. If anything, vote for an inactive townie. He's either an inactive townie, in which case his death wouldn't mean much for us anyway, or he's mafia, in which case we have our first little victory. Besides, by voting for different people, you can see their reactions and use them to try and figure out whether or not a person is mafia or not. So stop abstaining, and starting voting for people, if nothing else than to see their reaction. :/ And it's not like by abstaining no one's going to die. Yes, someone is going to die anyway, so abstaining really does nothing. At the earliest stages of the game, we need all the intelligence we can get, and behavioral clues/analysis helps us determine who the mafia are. | ||
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Smurfette
Guam15 Posts
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PowerOverwhelming
Korea (North)14 Posts
On August 03 2009 01:45 Azura wrote: Yeah, i think the lack of mayor combined with the "inaccuracy" of rolechecks this game could be part of the reason why the kp is a bit lower. I think the only reason the GF would cover himself as DT would be to lure out other DT's into checking him, and then get them killed. Posing as a medic doesn't seem to offer any such incentive, at least that I can think of, because he wouldn't be able to effectively pretend to use the role. I guess if a DT checked him and he popped up medic, the gf might be able to catch the dt. GF has to play a lot smarter to stay undercover as a blue though, so I guess it depends on whether the mafia wants to play it safe or not. The vigi hit clue is really the only way I can think of for confirming a townie as well. Still, that sort of strategy comes with the problems of drawing the medic protection away from other players, and I doubt there are any more than 2 medics this round. There are tons of reasons to fake medic for the gf. Medics are (potentially) such a good role that the town would never lynch a real medic. Also, medics have sucked so much in the past that it would be ridiculously easy to fake. In one game, even without being a gf, attackzerg managed to fake medic and delay his lynch for a day and get a circle of blues trusting him leading to a complete massacre. So yes, the odds are that the mafia will choose medic for the gf because after a check, its so unlikely they'll die and its so easy to fake. | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
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SatouxKisei
233 Posts
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SatouxKisei
233 Posts
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MasonBob
Iceland11 Posts
On August 03 2009 04:43 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: FYI: several smurf accounts have not been given mafia forum access by Plexa yet, so take that into account with your activity concerns. I might have to extend the day due to this; I didn't realize some players weren't in yet until I started the game... .gg | ||
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MasonBob
Iceland11 Posts
On August 03 2009 02:04 Acidic Pirate wrote: A quick note to the abstainers in the voting thread: Abstaining does nothing for the town. If anything, vote for an inactive townie. He's either an inactive townie, in which case his death wouldn't mean much for us anyway, or he's mafia, in which case we have our first little victory. Besides, by voting for different people, you can see their reactions and use them to try and figure out whether or not a person is mafia or not. So stop abstaining, and starting voting for people, if nothing else than to see their reaction. :/ And it's not like by abstaining no one's going to die. Yes, someone is going to die anyway, so abstaining really does nothing. At the earliest stages of the game, we need all the intelligence we can get, and behavioral clues/analysis helps us determine who the mafia are. thx for the info that ur totally mafia and want help getting rid of townies through posting about inactives lucky for you pyr clarified that some people dont have access yet also we need someone else to be more obvious about being mafia like you so we can have a good start on the lynch wars | ||
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