TL Mafia XIV - Smurf Edition - Page 8

On August 02 2009 16:01 SatouxKisei wrote:



two people active prior to day post that have not posted yet. are you two, too busy picking out a godfather?

SatouxKisei, does it matter that people responded after you called them out for inactivity? The game has just started. Surely there are people who have busy lives, unable to check the status of the town as much as some of us. As this is the beginning of the game we must wait for everyone to be given the chance to post. Then we must make our decisions on who to kill. Haste makes waste even if you do taste the cake!

On August 02 2009 20:10 Detective Shinigata wrote:
Azura = google azura = first hit http://www.azura-retreats.com/ = Luxury eco-boutique Indian Ocean Island Hotel = Red dot on forehead = Indian? (this is based on pyyr's last game where on day 1 he used the first hit on google of a mafioso as a clue)

On August 03 2009 01:25 SatouxKisei wrote:

it is merely an activity incentive for a few and a reference for future accusations and or behavioral analysis. I have not accused anyone, yet.

It is important to come up with a list of suspects, however.

On August 02 2009 21:12 Sacrifice wrote:
Okay. So we have unlimited role checks. That's good. Mafia can "frame" a townie(should be called this, not cover) every night. That's bad. Godfather can appear as anything he wants to. That's bad as well.

Basically, role checks in general cannot be trusted, at least alone. Millers appear as red, Godfather fan frame/cover people, and he himself can still appear as whatever he wants to. DTs still should R/C almost every night, clue checking pretty much only when we need the godfather... Or if there's a really certain clue about someone who was R/C'd to be town. Vigilante should save his hit for a few days until we have a couple of good targets.

Right now, we need to establish a couple of things. First off, what role is the Godfather most likely to appear as and what would benefit him the most? Townie would be the normal, safe choice, but what are the chances that he would appear as, say, a DT or a Medic?

Second, we might have to compose some kind of a medic list for the Medics, although that's not really that high of a priority because this is a vet game and the medics should be reasonably experienced.

And lastly, what are our plans for getting a confirmed townie? Mafia is able to hit themselves in this game, so medic block confirmation doesn't work. Actually, I doubt they'd hit themselves with only 3 KP available to them, so scratch that. Medic block can be considered almost a 100% confimation. Vigilante hit and connecting clues is the obvious choice, but that shouldn't be done until later, when we have enough targets to that a vigi hit would be useful. We also can't confirm the amount of blue roles, only the amount of Mafia, so the benefits aren't as high as they normally would. The confirmed townie would still be useful for acting as a mouth for the DT's, for instance.

Miller - You are told that you are a townie, and you are. However, if a detective checks you, you will appear as mafia.

On August 03 2009 01:45 Azura wrote:


Yeah, i think the lack of mayor combined with the "inaccuracy" of rolechecks this game could be part of the reason why the kp is a bit lower. I think the only reason the GF would cover himself as DT would be to lure out other DT's into checking him, and then get them killed. Posing as a medic doesn't seem to offer any such incentive, at least that I can think of, because he wouldn't be able to effectively pretend to use the role. I guess if a DT checked him and he popped up medic, the gf might be able to catch the dt. GF has to play a lot smarter to stay undercover as a blue though, so I guess it depends on whether the mafia wants to play it safe or not.

The vigi hit clue is really the only way I can think of for confirming a townie as well. Still, that sort of strategy comes with the problems of drawing the medic protection away from other players, and I doubt there are any more than 2 medics this round.

On August 03 2009 04:43 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
FYI: several smurf accounts have not been given mafia forum access by Plexa yet, so take that into account with your activity concerns. I might have to extend the day due to this; I didn't realize some players weren't in yet until I started the game... .

On August 03 2009 02:04 Acidic Pirate wrote:
A quick note to the abstainers in the voting thread:

Abstaining does nothing for the town. If anything, vote for an inactive townie. He's either an inactive townie, in which case his death wouldn't mean much for us anyway, or he's mafia, in which case we have our first little victory. Besides, by voting for different people, you can see their reactions and use them to try and figure out whether or not a person is mafia or not.

So stop abstaining, and starting voting for people, if nothing else than to see their reaction.

:/

And it's not like by abstaining no one's going to die. Yes, someone is going to die anyway, so abstaining really does nothing. At the earliest stages of the game, we need all the intelligence we can get, and behavioral clues/analysis helps us determine who the mafia are.