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Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 13 2009 12:02 GMT
#1021
On July 13 2009 20:34 Bockit wrote:
Hahaha "My constant lies".

...(gone from 6 eco 6 mot to 6 eco 5 mot)


QFL
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 13 2009 20:45 GMT
#1056
On July 14 2009 03:59 LucasWoJ wrote:
Y'know, first thing that popped into my head was "Why isn't pyrr dead?"

And mafia operates very quickly. :O

You'll notice I called out Falcynn so they couldn't kill me without losing him. I dunno why they killed JeeJee but Foolishness has been playing better than me this game it's clear. I could say the same about you since you seem like an obvious target but maybe they are keeping you around to try to get you linked to Mr Julia again.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 13 2009 20:52 GMT
#1057
Vote Bockit.

Go read this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=96429&currentpage=51#1023

Nothing new in the day post that would refute that.

Foolishness and I had a plan to try to create a big lead for motbob in the polls vis-a-vis ecomania and see if we could spark a bandwagon onto ecomania and prove that motbob was higher rank. Anyway, it was 7-6 ecomania with few voters to go so that plan wasn't going to happen so I devised a new one to try to test Bockit.

+ Show Spoiler +
Alright, so it doesn't look like we're gonna get a big enough separation between motbob and ecomania to detect any bandwagon. I'm pretty sure with that new clue analysis I found on Bockit that he's the GF; the even voting between ecomania and motbob might mean they are equal mafia or may mean all sorts of things. So to get some information out of this lynch here's my strategy: I'll switch my vote to Bockit and see if any suspects take it as an excuse to follow me. If they do, Bockit's probably innocent and it's back to the drawing board on mr julia. If not, its not confirmed that he is gf or anything, but at least we'll get some sort of info. I'll be sure to change my vote back to motbob before voting ends, and if I have to make ecomania win instead of bockit if something crazy happens ill do that and scaramanga can take care of motbob.


Results:

+ Show Spoiler +
I can see this is fruitful, notice motbob is around but not trying to start a bandwagon onto Bockit and also notice that Bockit lies and says I tried to save motbob by changing it from 6-6 to 6-5 when it was 8-6 when I switched.

Editors note: it was actually 7-6 for ecomania due to the vote count fuck up.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 13 2009 22:28 GMT
#1067
Yeah I'm thinking we should vote sunny.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 13 2009 23:12 GMT
#1070
"The only thing is that I still think Bockit is clean (or at least you should wait for lynching him). His votes have nearly all checked out (except for jumping on BC)." This is another reason why I think Bockit is GF. He probably the BC bandwagon knowing he'll turn up green since it was the mafia's most important move this game, then just plays it safe everywhere else.

As for my day 3 voting, yeah I fucked up and got baited badly, I explained that earlier and it's just getting more clearer to me what happened. I figured the uprising against BC was naturally occurring but the double votes should have told me otherwise.

Chaoser looks especially suspicious day 2, changing between two mafia.

ecomania from abstain--> ydg @00:28 (10)
storrzerg from araav (0)-->truthbringer @01:13 (12)
chaoser from abstain --> ydg @07:55 (11)
JeeJee votes for chaoser @08:30
Scamp from abstain -->ydg @09:16 (12)
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 14 2009 04:29 GMT
#1087
Yeah, vote sunny. Also, I think the medic should try to protect the assassin if they can figure out who it is because once he's spent all his hits we should be able to rally around him.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 14 2009 17:37 GMT
#1104
yeah, I guess we should have been more suspicious when things were so unanimous and our other top suspect went along with it -__-
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 14 2009 22:03 GMT
#1111
Yeah, hurry up infundi, I was gonna cover whatever you didn't...
I sent my thoughts to lucas and infundi so one of the three of us should survive to post it / compare it to the new day post but yeah.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 14 2009 22:11 GMT
#1112

The sword from Day 5 could link to the following from GoodWill's profile:

"One, who does not have command over many words must find words that can be used like daggers or swords to swing in the face of the unknowing person who is thought of being an enemy."

I'll have to look over his voting again, I know he was the second vote for BC at one point. He also ended up as the first vote for ecomania (on Day 4). When Truthbringer was up 12-11 he voted Truthbringer so that doesn't look bad, though he couldn't have made ydg die.

Also note that a knife was used in an earlier day.

Day 4:

"ydg was confident in his ability to defend himself and as such had gone for his daily midnight stroll. On the home stretch he came across a rather tall man wandering about aimlessly. Confused, he approached the man and quickly realised that the man had no idea that he was even there. “Hey, what are you doing out this late?” inquired ydg. The man drew a knife and lunged aimlessly at ydg, missing terribly. “Hey what’s with the hostility?!” exclaimed ydg as he quickly put together the pieces. “You’re... Mafia!!”"

Ydg sounds like an "unknowing person" getting slashed at with a dagger. Also notice ydg keeps asking questions but the mafia doesn't / can't say anything in response. Contrast with Mr Julia who talks, for example.

Could be chaoser if he's a ninja, since he's begging for clue analysis.

Sometimes swords are used and aren't clues (the theme is supposed to be ancient although guns have been used and there are factories so I guess Plexa doesn't care lol). I think I used a sword in my game a few times without meaning it as a clue and I know in one game some game admin kept using swords without realizing it or meaning it as a clue and someone innocent died because of that.

However, Lenwe could also link to the not talking clue that links better to goodwill. Lenwe has a bad voting record as Lucaswoj explained (of course lucaswoj said we [pyrrhuloxia and infundibulum] had terrible records too :/), but look at this post:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=96429&currentpage=55#1106

I dunno what to think about that. It's like he got some sort of PM telling him to say something so he blindly followed it without reading up on the thread first to make sense. Or maybe he's trying to fake having been in favor of motbob's death or something (he didn't vote).

Also, we still have that flying clue for Falcynn and if you load up the whole thread with the "all" option and ctrl-f his name to look at all his posts, you'll see that pretty much every clue of his is suspicious. He wants snow instead of fog, says sorry for being inactive without doing anything productive afterward (see ecomania), he says he is prone to bandwagoning and that's why he bandwagoned on to bc and ydg, says he hopes to be lynched because he's useless to town, etc. We need people to be more active than ever but since ecomania's death, all he's done is say "yay" when ecomania died and "well... shit" when Faronel died (posting pure reactions like that usually means noob mafia).

BC figured if Storrzerg was mafia he'd be a zerg. I'm pretty sure JeeJee
was killed by a zerg. The "scraping sound" in the airvent makes me think
of a zergling, but what really looks suspicious to me is this:
"The Mafioso stared at him with dagger eyes and rushed at him. JeeJee
evaded the frontal rush but as a result was gored in the back."
Zerglings have sufficiently dagger-like eyes:
http://us.blizzard.com/blizzcast/_images/episode1/zerg.jpg
Zerglings rush, we all know that.
Zerglings can gore with those big arm spikes or those tusks from any
direction (front or back).
(or those things behind their knees, or their tails, or nearly any part of
their body lol)
Also, doesn't it seem like a zerg reference how JeeJee defeats the frontal
assault but is defeated by his opponent maneuvering behind him (flanking
him) and then killing him?

Oh one more thing, Foolishness is in a basement. I know when I've made
clues in the past, I've often had death scenes underground when the killer
is related to zerg to allude to the burrow ability.
However, storrzerg's voting record is very innocent looking, so I wouldn't put storrzerg high on the priority list.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 14 2009 22:12 GMT
#1113
Pretty unorganized because I put together the highlights from various PMs but yeah.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 14 2009 22:27 GMT
#1114
Also, the humming thing could either be ilovekt's profile pic or maybe infundibulum's. I linked some clue and behavior stuff to ilovekt earlier but the clue stuff was mostly Mr Julia stuff before I thought about the Phantom of the Opera.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 14 2009 22:31 GMT
#1115
other stuff that might be helpful if I die...

Falcynn pmed me for the first time today to ask if I thought Scaramanga was really the assassin or not.

That's about all I can think of actually. I would say goodwill should be the next target.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 14 2009 22:35 GMT
#1116
Notice goodwill hasn't posted in this thread the entire game, yet hasn't missed a vote.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 15 2009 00:52 GMT
#1121
Hmmm I hadn't thought there was a chance tall lanky was still alive. Someone said truthbringer's profile pic looked tall and since he was just a skeleton that would explain his thin nature. I kinda bought that.

Making so no fek sink in the harbour, dumping jeejee in the sea - those point to Bockit "im on a boat". Twig snapping = eco, I think it was bockit with eco that teamed up on so no fek.

Maybe bockit is linked to all this sea stuff and someone else is mr. julia? I still think bockit is the best fit for mr julia. ilovekt could have (T)Flash bulbs growing out of him if he was Mr. Julia, Chezinu has green skin, green is close to yellow on the color wheel, so it could be Plexa's way of hinting at green without saying it. We'll have to see if he pops up in the net day post, if not I'd think we'd have to have killed him by now (I don't think any of the dead mafia link though).
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 15 2009 03:07 GMT
#1125
Who all has received this pm about malongo and chaoser?
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 15 2009 03:58 GMT
#1127
Subject: Mafia

Malongo and Chaoser.

-unknown tipster.

lol.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 15 2009 04:02 GMT
#1128
I think they're either DT or faking DT.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 15 2009 04:24 GMT
#1130
well we're gonna have to get some good medic prots and the DT's gonna have to find some way to safely let us know what they've found out, they've gotta have something useful by now.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 15 2009 07:29 GMT
#1135
Also, "Covered pledges do not show up on lists if they are covered when the list is checked." DTs are nerfed pretty bad this game :-/. he's gotta have something else by day 5/6?
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 15 2009 23:08 GMT
#1149
On July 16 2009 06:08 chaoser wrote:
ok, i'm going to go out there and say this, anyone in a circle that knew storrzerg was medic, you guys gotta speak up cause mafia had to have hit him TWICE (two mafia targetted him) meaning they KNEW he was medic. someone in that circle is RED.

This is all I knew about the medic. I got pissed at Lucas when he posted Foolishness's analysis of who the medic was, but he said he was sure it wasn't malongo.

From LucasWoJ:

No, malongo isn't my bro (literally). 0cz3c is. I called him out being definite blue or mafia in the thread sometime, but mafia chose to ignore it. It's conceivable that he's blue, but again, posting something so publicly should make them wonder.

If you're worried, you could always respond "lol, why did you change the names?" or something to that effect. I don't think it's necessary: the fact that I posted it will make mafia re-consider the blues. But if you agree with foolishness, that's always a way out.

[[REDACTED]] seems to be a blue as well.
-----------------------------------------
Original Message:
What about Malongo, that's who he specifically calls out as medic for what look like pretty good reasons. Guess its too late now, though. I guess if you know Foolishness's wrong (Malongo's your bro after all) then good play.

-----------------------------------------
Original Message:

Because I think he's wrong. I think heav is an inactive green and falcynn mafia. The PM is going to confuse the hell out of the mafia, and will make the last tactic ESPECIALLY powerful (PM'ing them), if they read his PM that is.


-----------------------------------------
Original Message:
Why'd you have to post the part where Foolishness analyzes who the medic is / blues are?

Later from LucasWoJ:

Scaramanga is doing something very stupid. He posted publically saying the mystic should look me up. He claims it's because he wants to put suspicion on me, but if GF cloaks me, I'll come up as red.

If bockit isn't red, I'm giving up.

falcynn seemed ok in the votes I looked at, but I haven't been paying any attention to his posts. That PM seems tremendously fishy. Did you ask him why he sent it to you?

Scaramanga claims to know the medic. He says it's not malongo. oO
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