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If I were the Contract Killer, I would role check a player before trying to contract out. Then I would know what I'm dealing with. At that point I could choose to either contact them or not. If I contact them I can start killing sooner (which I am guessing I would want to kill people since it's in my role title). This means that my best way to victory is to search for and confirm someone and ride that player to victory.
If I find a town member, I risk losing my only contact, since if the townie dies, he likely doesn't know any other for-sure confirmed townies (unless he is a Detective, which would probably be the best role for me to find since he can find contact-successors as well as help me choose my kills). I wouldn't want to pick a high-profile player like Ace to contact, because I'd say he has higher than normal odds to be night-killed if he is town and I don't want to lose my contact. I would want to choose a lower profile player or one with a smaller target on his head.
Alternatively I might look for a Mafia member, because he knows other confirmed players of his same alignment that he could pass my info on to if he were to die, thus helping ensure that when I lose my one contact that I'd have a higher chance of getting a replacement who already knows what's up.
Of course this also depends on whether or not I am a high-profile player. If I am a high-profile player I don't want to run the risk of getting night killed because I decided to work for the town. I would try to find Mafia and establish contacts there. If I was not a high profile player, I wouldn't need to fear early night-deaths as much and then finding town would still be a good option for me.
I think the Contract Killer should pick a lower-profile type player and go from there. That's the sense I make of it at least.
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fuck CK is prolly gonna go mafia and be like their DT. I mean the risk of getting lynched is really small compared to the risk of getting killed by mafia. and CK can help the mafia with their DT powers a lot more than the town... if they can find the mafia (might have already done so if that email address went to the real CK)
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Please BC answer this: upon rolecheck on a mafia mayor the answer is?
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and of course the CK can find mafia with the CK's DT powers
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On April 22 2009 15:59 Malongo wrote:
Please BC answer this: upon rolecheck on a mafia mayor the answer is?
Mayor. It is in green bold letters at the top of the role listing
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On April 22 2009 15:58 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
fuck CK is prolly gonna go mafia and be like their DT. I mean the risk of getting lynched is really small compared to the risk of getting killed by mafia. and CK can help the mafia with their DT powers a lot more than the town... if they can find the mafia (might have already done so if that email address went to the real CK)
But if the victory condition has to do with killing people (which I suspect it might, otherwise his role name of "Killer" isn't going to be very accurate) then being the Mafia's role-checking buddy is not in the Contract Killer's best interest because by doing that he isn't killing anyone.
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That's if they want to work with us =\
So I guess we should try to make an offer, leave it on the table and wait to see what happens.
I would suggest the contract killer to consider this.
If you pick mafia, and help kill townies, clues could be left behind and you could get lynched. But now if you work with Townies, clues still get left behind but now mafia has to figure you out. Also if you contact a townie/blue or who ever, you might be able to later find a medic who will cover your butt for a while and keep you alive for most of the game.
It might be best for the contract killer to side up with town and maybe ask for med in return.
I really cant leave that offer, but if the town agrees, then we can juts leave it there for the contract killer to decide, that way we can focus on other issues and not worry to much about the contract killer for now. (Though if anyone has a better idea for offers then shoot it out)
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On April 22 2009 16:02 semioldguy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2009 15:58 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
fuck CK is prolly gonna go mafia and be like their DT. I mean the risk of getting lynched is really small compared to the risk of getting killed by mafia. and CK can help the mafia with their DT powers a lot more than the town... if they can find the mafia (might have already done so if that email address went to the real CK) But if the victory condition has to do with killing people (which I suspect it might, otherwise his role name of "Killer" isn't going to be very accurate) then being the Mafia's role-checking buddy is not in the Contract Killer's best interest because by doing that he isn't killing anyone.
lol wot? mafia just tell him someone to kill that won't be on their list for that night if he needs to kill to fulfill some winning condition. unless BC did something dastardly like tell the CK they have to double cross both sides and kill at least 3 on each side or some cat brazy shit like that.
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Hey guys I found a pic of the CK!
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On April 22 2009 16:07 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Hey guys I found a pic of the CK!
Bah, his mustache isn't that sexy.
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On April 22 2009 08:43 tlmafiahitman wrote:
Before this account gets deleted, I am the contract killer in the game. I don't care who you are but if you want my services then please do the stuff in my signature to use them.
Id like to ask to the moderators playing this round for an IP check on this account and who shares it. Im asking this because its a power that not all players have and its important for the game. Thank you.
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On April 22 2009 16:15 Malongo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2009 08:43 tlmafiahitman wrote:
Before this account gets deleted, I am the contract killer in the game. I don't care who you are but if you want my services then please do the stuff in my signature to use them. Id like to ask to the moderators playing this round for an IP check on this account and who shares it. Im asking this because its a power that not all players have and its important for the game. Thank you.
Are you saying for us to find CK more easily and try to have them join townies lol? What if the mod is mafia and decides to make their own use of the CK or just kill that person off looking at them as an obstacle ;p
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On April 22 2009 16:05 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2009 16:02 semioldguy wrote:On April 22 2009 15:58 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
fuck CK is prolly gonna go mafia and be like their DT. I mean the risk of getting lynched is really small compared to the risk of getting killed by mafia. and CK can help the mafia with their DT powers a lot more than the town... if they can find the mafia (might have already done so if that email address went to the real CK) But if the victory condition has to do with killing people (which I suspect it might, otherwise his role name of "Killer" isn't going to be very accurate) then being the Mafia's role-checking buddy is not in the Contract Killer's best interest because by doing that he isn't killing anyone. lol wot? mafia just tell him someone to kill that won't be on their list for that night if he needs to kill to fulfill some winning condition. unless BC did something dastardly like tell the CK they have to double cross both sides and kill at least 3 on each side or some cat brazy shit like that.
Then he isn't going to be a Mafia DT like you suggested in the post I quoted. I wasn't making a point so much as disproving yours. Obviously he can still offer Mafia a lot, but I doubt he would be offering role-checking services to find our blues.
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On April 22 2009 16:15 Malongo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2009 08:43 tlmafiahitman wrote:
Before this account gets deleted, I am the contract killer in the game. I don't care who you are but if you want my services then please do the stuff in my signature to use them. Id like to ask to the moderators playing this round for an IP check on this account and who shares it. Im asking this because its a power that not all players have and its important for the game. Thank you.
His IP didn't match anyone else onsite as far as I can tell. If it did I would lynch that player out of policy.
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On April 22 2009 16:21 semioldguy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2009 16:15 Malongo wrote:On April 22 2009 08:43 tlmafiahitman wrote:
Before this account gets deleted, I am the contract killer in the game. I don't care who you are but if you want my services then please do the stuff in my signature to use them. Id like to ask to the moderators playing this round for an IP check on this account and who shares it. Im asking this because its a power that not all players have and its important for the game. Thank you. His IP didn't match anyone else onsite as far as I can tell. If it did I would lynch that player out of policy.
I had already had a mod not affiliated with the game check this out, so no need to worry, it had already been taken care of.
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vote me for mayor wooo
ill be a good one
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On April 22 2009 16:18 Tricode wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2009 16:15 Malongo wrote:On April 22 2009 08:43 tlmafiahitman wrote:
Before this account gets deleted, I am the contract killer in the game. I don't care who you are but if you want my services then please do the stuff in my signature to use them. Id like to ask to the moderators playing this round for an IP check on this account and who shares it. Im asking this because its a power that not all players have and its important for the game. Thank you. Are you saying for us to find CK more easily and try to have them join townies lol? What if the mod is mafia and decides to make their own use of the CK or just kill that person off looking at them as an obstacle ;p
i was far more concerned about the fairness of the game other than anything. i asked another mod but he told me that he hadnt time to understand the whole thing.
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On April 22 2009 16:02 semioldguy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2009 15:58 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
fuck CK is prolly gonna go mafia and be like their DT. I mean the risk of getting lynched is really small compared to the risk of getting killed by mafia. and CK can help the mafia with their DT powers a lot more than the town... if they can find the mafia (might have already done so if that email address went to the real CK) But if the victory condition has to do with killing people (which I suspect it might, otherwise his role name of "Killer" isn't going to be very accurate) then being the Mafia's role-checking buddy is not in the Contract Killer's best interest because by doing that he isn't killing anyone.
Well I think we better offer the CK medic protection or something because she/he can still kill for mafia. Actually, going town looks good on second thought because with medics we can keep her/him alive pretty much indefinitely especially later in the game if we've been doing good. If we get organized with DTs or good clue analysis, we can find out who the CK is and kill him/her and the mafia can't do shit to save him/her whereas we can keep the CKs identity safe (plus give her/him a medic just in case) and without the CK the mafia will never have a good shot at figuring out who (s)he is because their clues would be mixed in with the clues of vigis (and no one knows how many of those there are). Basically,from the purely day 1 view of my earlier analysis, mafia looks better for CK. But as the game goes on town looks better and better for the CK. Yet the CK can't really come crawling back to the town if they ditch us early for the mafia because we'll be able to track em down. Also, I said they could be a mafia DT but they really can't because the contracts are only for kills so the role checks are just so the CK can find people to make contracts with.
(aside: there could be 2 or more CKs or even zero according to this game's rules. i think 1 is a relatively safe assumption but just throwing it out there so we can't get blindsided)
EDIT to add: forgot to mention, like Malongo said the real reason CK can't go back to town is that the mafia knows who they are from making contracts with them (unless they try to set up some anonymous bullshit through fake accounts in which case they still won't be able to send that in to BC very well and they are cheating and will get roughed up by mods in any number of ways). So if CK deserts mafia, starts following town orders - mafia will know because clues will point to the CK (who they know the identity of). So they'll be able to stack kills enough to kill them even if we medic them.
IN SUMMARY: The choice is clear: the CK should join us for the entirety of the game because unless the mafia play the best game ever and we are terrible things will get bad for the CK and they certainly won't survive (which i imagine is part of their winning condition).
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We actually have 57 CK's :p
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On April 22 2009 16:33 semioldguy wrote:
We actually have 57 CK's :p
^--- Anyone want to contract me to CK this guy over here? Lol j/k
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