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On April 23 2009 09:20 Showtime! wrote: Detectives, If you would do me a favor. Check either Caller, SoG or myself when you get the chance. For those who are good at interpretation, I'm sure you know where I'm going with this. I don't know where you're going with this. Unless you mean people avoiding voting for Qatol? Also, I PMed this to lucaswoj and then realized it probably should have just been a post: "showtime! is a tank that's all i know of, haven't checked thoroughly also Under Siege is a movie and a video game (or two maybe) I kinda don't think this is a clue though it isn't as awkwardly worded as some of the other phrases and BC hasn't used unit icons as clues before def. wouldn't on day 1 unless it was with someone with no profile, hard name, no pic, no quote, no nothing, so if it is a clue i dont think it links to a unit icon." | ||
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On April 23 2009 09:33 Qatol wrote: Actually he told me he used a unit icon 1 time as a clue last game. However it was for a player who doesn't post much, so there was 0 chance their icon would change. I guess there's a chance that a siege tank could be a clue then because it starts I think at 1000 and goes to 2000 (maybe) so if someone is far from 2000 its doubtful they would hit it before the game ends... still showtime! would have plenty of other things to use, if there's a tank icon attached to someone with no profile etc then maybe | ||
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On April 23 2009 09:35 Incognito wrote: CK: will probably not be wanting to use a RC. He can't use it until day 2, and wont get the results back till the next night: night 3. Which means the info can't be used effectively till the day after. I think the CK will certainly know which way the game is going by this point, so there would be no need to waste all that time if you could be killing people. I think people are going on the wrong track with the CK. We're assuming there IS a separate goal for CK. I'm not so convinced there is, except for possibly a stay alive role. Nonetheless, I will try to present an option. If you look at the first part of the text: you see that pretty much this role is related to the job and only the job. I think its far fetched to think that the CK might have to have some kill objectives like kill one mafia and one DT like someone suggested. I feel from this sentence it is more likely that the CK MUST use his power every turn he can. Hence the bolded part. I think this may be right I don't think there's some complimicated goal thing except to stay alive and make contracts to make havoc. I thought the role description was pretty clear until BC posted about some "boooo seeeeecreeeeets" post that could be a joke. | ||
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as for your plan I don't even understand what it is and you've said yourself you're not even ready to present all the arguments for it so I don't know whether to support it or argue against it or what. qatol's plan of clue checks makes more sense at this point then potentially having out DTs overlap role checks early which could be a mistake (or goal) of your plan. I certainly can't see why we should direct the DTs to use role checks this early until you explain what they are supposed to do with their results. | ||
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On April 23 2009 10:26 t_co wrote: I think mafia will be smarter about that this game. Better to use other tactics, but most importantly don't let mafia know how (the ranking mechanism) town "core" comes to lynch decisions. t_co's sort of right, now that we're posting "this is why so and so is suspicious" the mafia know how to act to look good. Showtime! probably has the right idea hiding back some rationale. | ||
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As for clues, it'd be hard. Does anyone know what his profile pic is of? is that one of those gaia online avatars or something? | ||
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On April 23 2009 13:56 Chuiu wrote: It looks like some retarded male version of a Brats doll. Whatever it is I doubt BC would know. So if he makes a clue from this it would probably relate to different colored eyes or black clothes or something. More likely he'd look at the name. Striker brings to mind a work stoppage or the soccer position, neither of which link to anything I see in the day one post. It's also a type of military vehicle I think. And a bunch of other things according to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Striker_(disambiguation) Nothing jumps out at me as a link to the day post for that or the "quick" part of his name. Maybe "just in time" is a link to the quick part? I mean BC was definitely struck quickly. So on one hand, if you take quick striker in the hitting fast sense it could link to all sorts of things that might appear on a mafia day post. On the other hand, BC in the last game chose to zero in on "fighting" in someone's profile that said "july zerg fighting!" and a bunch of other stuff so picking something vague like that might be something BC would do for the first post to avoid making it too easy. Take it however. | ||
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Explaining why I said I wasn't going to post due to school and have been anyway: + Show Spoiler + Ugh I get obsessive about mafia games... so I've been trying to keep checking the forum to a reasonable level since I have so many term papers due in a couple weeks but so far I am failing miserably . I have terrible self control. Ocz3c clue/behavior analysis: + Show Spoiler + Ocz3c has "mystery box" in one of his quotes. A TV with a mysterious message on it could match this. Also, his name sounds like an incomprehensible block of text. His profile is in latin which could have been incomprehensible to BC (i remember last game a tattoo that couldn't be made out got some people to think it was korean or whatever in someone's profile). maybe he's abstaining because hes trying to be grassroots mafia candidate and he has to be the one mafia that doesnt vote for himself (because he cant)? I dunno. Is suspicious he didn't mention previous inactivity with an explanation. I kind of agree with his sentiment that there had been too much sole focus on the CK in the thread for a while just would seem so weird if ocz3c is the best candidate the mafia can muster given the high ratio of experienced players this time around. I know mafia has to have some big names this time so maybe they are just inactive so far and thus some mafia are getting antsy waiting. coolcrimefighter clue/behavior analysis: + Show Spoiler + coolcrimefighter could have something to do with Scaramanga warming himself up. (coolcrimefight has only his name to make clues from) coolcrimefighter looks like he's not going to be too helpful so probably not a huge loss unless he turns blue. Quickstriker behavior/clue analysis: + Show Spoiler + QuickStriker's outrage at being pointed out at kind of reminds me of pikachu last game for what its worth. I guess BC's death could have been a "quick strike" but meh. he could be a desperate blue and his comments seem consistent with what a noob innocent might say. I just read malongos post about quickstriker and he makes some good points i hadn't thought of yet, like about how he's not helping us at all. Of course, coolcrimefighter is not helping town at all either. Also, striker is a soccer position. That could be fodder for making clues, but I don't see anything to link to that. Guess there could be something about refusing to work as well. Maybe BC died slowly because the mafia decided to quit doing his job? The TV could have been said to have stopped working. Those are both weak as hell though so I am wasting effort even thinking these links perhaps. why more clue links = more suspicious, even early: + Show Spoiler + One thing I've realized after the last few games is that we often catch people based on the wrong clues. While clearly there is unlikely to be more than one small clue per day linking to a specific person (ie, that one post about how there are 3 seperate phrases linking to 3 lions in the day 1 post), the more plausible links from a suspect to the clue post the higher likelihood that one of them is correct. Last game BC (think it was him) came up with 3 great links to LeperKhan (getting knocked over easily, bullseye in his profile, think there was another one i forgot) but the intended clue was something we linked to someone else. Just something to keep in mind that coming up with a bunch of links for someone doesn't mean they are innocent because there couldn't be so many intended links. I think you should evaluate it taking into account both the quality and number of links (many shitty links is less than a few good links, but many good links is probably better than one great link because if a link is too great its probably too obvious to have been chosen by BC) Inertinept clue/behavior analysis: + Show Spoiler + the last game he played he gave up and admitted being mafia and whined. maybe he is also not putting much effort into this game and is voting for another mafia regardless of what it might cause and without even getting confirmation from / coordinating with ocz3c. That last sentence looks like it could be the truth if neither speak up to explain otherwise with something logical. One other idea, inertinept could be mafia and some mafia are just voting random people to try to spread out suspicion on to the hapless people they are voting for, so when the mafia get caught we go after innocents they alone voted for in an odd fashion. I don't think mafia is clever enough for that and I'm not sure that's even clever because we wouldn't make that mistake more than once. Ok, going to add some inertinept clue analysis here: I didn't find much. "with a gust of wind, perhaps" could be something stoking a fire but really doesn't fit the phrasing / layout of the fire section at all, imo. Can't think of anything about inert or inept to fit. Maybe the sound behind BC was wind? ehhh I don't really have anything good at all for a link to inertinept. | ||
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On April 23 2009 15:31 Bockit wrote: It's not that long a thread guys, it's only about 8 or 9 pages of content worth reading! lol yeah thread was 2x as long last game after this much time | ||
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On April 23 2009 16:49 Showtime! wrote: Pyr, I never said that. Read between the lines. Now, let's wait and see how our DTs decide to act. * I'm not ready to get rid of BlindAlbino yet based on that info alone. I rather take out the Blastoise, SoG or our Paranoid Androide Lurker Caller. Said what? you keep responding to me with vague undefined pronouns and confusing the hell out of me. Read between what lines? If you are trying to tell something to me specifically, try PM rather than hieroglyphics. How are we going to even know what our DTs decide to do? We have no way to get them organized at this point qatol can't be proven innocent so maybe he is blue like last mayor was and then DTs can trust but right now no DT should be trusting anyone. Even if they role check someone they could get the GF. Maybe one of SoG, Caller and you are GF?! Are you GF and hoping some DT will get curious and check you, see you as blue or green and trust you then you will kill him? Because that is a big possibility at this point the way you are begging to be role checked without any justification and how you have said you are waiting to earn trust before you start giving more plans to the town. in part 2 of your post you are asking us to kill sog or caller, two great players, without explaining why. my wtf meter is beeping pretty loud. seriously, DTs: you should be following qatol at this point until Showtime! puts some logic behind whatever it is that he is doing. | ||
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In other words, I'm going to be cryptic as fuck. I just reread all of your posts, caller's posts, and SoG's posts from the start of the game to where you said at least one of you three has to be mafia and it still makes no fucking sense why we would lynch one of you three. Especially you. If we kill you how are we supposed to find out what the fuck that was supposed to prove. You are making zero sense. You are bluffing that you are willing to die, so why the fuck aren't you willing to tell us what you are thinking in case that you do. You won't lift a finger to explain yourself so allow me to offer a possible explanation, feel free to refute: You're a godfather faking some blue role and you want to get a DT to check you and befriend you so you raise up a shitstorm around yourself. SoG and/or Caller are regular mafia and they are busy with school work and so they don't mind dying early, in fact they would like to do so because it would help them avoid being distracted around finals time. So, maybe you are a godfather faking DT and call out SoG and/or Caller as mafia and town lynches them and they turn red. Then town loves and adores you, I mean surely the mafia wouldn't sacrifice a player as good as SoG or Caller this early in the game! Likely? I dunno. Most likely thing I can come up with at this point since I can't see anything suspicious about SoG or Caller at this point. | ||
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On April 23 2009 18:38 semioldguy wrote: Showtime!, there is a part of your idea I don't really follow. I'm not opposed to the three of us getting checked out, but why use the first role checks on us? I'm thinking the Mafia want to eliminate key players. If they suspect any of us are going to be getting role checked, they are just going to take us out because not only are they now getting rid of a supposedly good player, which they will probably be aiming to do anyway, but they also made the Detective waste a role check on someone who immediately died. Trying to direct the Detectives is bad because Mafia benefits more from that information than the town does. The best time of the game for players like You, Me and Caller to get role checked would be several nights in if we are still alive. Not on Night Two. If there is a role we should be helping direct, it's the Medics, because that alters the Mafia kills in a positive way for the town. Something like last game, a list of veteran/desirable players which the Medics can be advised to choose from for protection targets. It should be a list larger than the number of Medics we think we have and it makes every person on that list a risk for Mafia to target. In this way we can force the Mafia to either stack up kills on one player, effectively reducing their kill power or we force them to make suboptimal kills each night. Yeah Qatol said he would do that I assume he'll put out a list probably right after the night post (at least that's when Ace did it last game). | ||
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