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Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-20 10:19:01
March 20 2009 09:59 GMT
#765
EDIT: Wrong thread.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
March 20 2009 23:33 GMT
#801
Good morning everybody - lots of good looking analysis to read through. I'll do so and soon be back to my merry post-happy ways.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
March 21 2009 00:10 GMT
#802
Ver's indict of scaramanga looks pretty good but I feel it is important to mention near all of it is not verifiable for most of us because we don't see the pms, msn messages, etc. Ver's taking a big risk with this accusation I feel, but he may not be alive in the morning so posting it when he did speaks to his fear of the mafia.

Scaramanga's explanation about the BG eff up seems like it would sort of match the type of eff up Chuiu explained in the green post (or maybe an attempt to exploit that? should look at the timing of those missives more closely).

I think we should do our best to find clues and behavior analysis that can implicate the same persyn. Someone said Lurker might be suspicious for his lackluster campaign, though I think that could be as indicative of noob townie and noob mafia (although I think noob townie would know to vote for an experienced persyn). Lurker could also be the mafia waiting around while Incognito tried to dig through the rubble for underground evidence of him.

That's some really poor behavioral analysis and iffy day 1 clue stuff but hopefully we can find better clues to match some of this better behavior analysis once day 2 pops up.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
March 21 2009 02:59 GMT
#807
I'm starting to get upset that the mafia gets an extra day to figure their shit out.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
March 21 2009 06:43 GMT
#840
Why is everyone so pissed at medics, Ace made a list of 12 people, Mafia had 6 KP and apparently they got blocked on 2 of their hits. That's pretty good I think.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
March 21 2009 07:25 GMT
#843
Why is everyone so pissed at medics, Ace made a list of 12 people, Mafia had 6 KP and apparently they got blocked on 2 of their hits. That's pretty good I think.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
March 21 2009 09:02 GMT
#845
On March 21 2009 17:56 Scaramanga wrote:
Nice oneeeee, plan worked out, soaked a hit for you guys, glhf town :D

Is he saying that he faked bodyguard to find out if someone in the Ver/BC/MBH/etc. behind the scenes operation is mafia? That seems like it might be a bit much for a death post.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
March 21 2009 10:37 GMT
#848
On March 21 2009 19:23 semioldguy wrote:
Mandalor is Mafia... I am 100% sure of this.

##I vote to lynch mandalor

Is there anything new against mandalor? I'm still not convinced.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
March 21 2009 10:50 GMT
#850
On March 21 2009 14:13 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:
Hmmm......clues in Camlito's death.....the white flower, torn ticket stubs, popcorn and it even said he picked them up as trash off the floor. This sounds like a bum or hobo....either it's too obvious as a clue or I'm on to something

I don't get it. Why would a bum collect ticket stubs?
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-21 11:17:54
March 21 2009 10:56 GMT
#854
#I vote for mandalor for now in the hope that the honorable Ver got something right. semioldguy's confidence tells me there may be something against mandalor that he can't reveal. I hope he's not the type to throw around 100% when he means something else. Ver got awfully suspicious of Scaramanga and I didn't see that as 100% and Mandalor looks iffier in comparison from what I have in front of me. This vote is certainly subject to change. I'm working on a post where I explain my hesitation about Mandalor as mafia.

FYI: Mandalor seems to be a reference to this: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mandalore
I don't see any clues jumping out at me yet but they could sure be there somewhere in Days 1 and 2.

EDIT: I don't vote for mandalor
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
March 21 2009 11:05 GMT
#858
#I cancel my vote for mandalor

I don't want to cause/help a bandwagon effect until I hear more.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
March 21 2009 11:52 GMT
#866
On March 21 2009 20:50 malongo wrote:

semioldguy, do your magic on this plz
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
March 21 2009 11:56 GMT
#869
Well I lost my post about mandalor but basically it boils down to this:

1. MrBabyHands said mafia was being inactive and then Mandalor posted
-That could just be because he first saw the thread at that point for whatever reason. There are players that haven't even posted yet, I think. Ver didn't post until after this and he flipped innocent. (Not to mention that Ver's other target was Scaramanga, who flipped innocent).

2. Mandalor questioned the list after MrBabyHands praised me for questioning the list
-I do think it is a bit odd that mandalor picked this issue up after it had died down a bit although it was only a page or two back in a timespan heavy with activity. I don't get why MrBabyHands thinks that mafia is offline during night and online during day - that makes no sense to me.

3. Mandalor defended a quality of the mafia
-Mandalor only said that MrBabyHands took mafia as stupid because MBH said mafia was inactive and would stay back and not help town or would try to lead town into bad plans - they would never help construct good plans. Well, in Ace's Mafia World I definitely put honest thinking and input into the plans of the town even though I was mafia. Prior to night 1, I voted for my godfather but damn near everything else I did, I did as if I was a highly energetic townspersyn. I knocked holes into plans where I saw them, I suggested things, etc. Some of this was because I thought I had a good shot at getting my Godfather elected mayor but alot of it was just that a good mafia will try to compartmentalize their thinking. They will have a What Would a Townie Do? bracelet on their wrist and not be constantly acting for the mafia's interest but instead will be an honest to goodness townie except for the few key subtle moments where they turn the tide of the game. I don't think that every candidate can be innocent and most were on MBH's list. I'm even beginning to become suspicious of some of the people who voted for me. My suspicion of Pika Chu looks a little crazy in retrospect now that I've settled down into the game a bit and I wonder if some mafia began to vote for me because they think I suck (no offense to those innocents that voted for me).

Mandalor posted this in response to MBH's first post accusing him as mafia for sure, by name:

"In my experience the players who stir the most shit, going on a blind witchhunt are most likely to be mafia. How is that for behavioral analysis?
Your behavioral analysis is based purely on thinking anyone who criticizes you or posted after the first day has to be mafia. That is hilarious and I hope everyone can see that, I haven't read the replies to this, yet."

I remember reading this and thinking it seems like a pretty natural response for a townie and I still kinda feel that way. Although I criticized MBH and he thinks I'm innocent so it's wrong but I could still see an innocent townie getting pissed off and saying that.

On to Ver's accusatory post...

At this point I see that semioldguy is role claiming DT and so I'm going to stop doing all the work digging through this.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
March 21 2009 12:12 GMT
#873
On March 21 2009 19:56 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
semioldguy's confidence tells me there may be something against mandalor that he can't reveal.

Lol, I called it.

Explanation having been given, #I vote to lynch Mandalor.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
March 21 2009 12:17 GMT
#874
Ugh I gtg to bed. Will be back in... I dunno... 10 hours or so. My beloved Zags are playing at 5:00 PST tomorrow so I won't be doing much mafia until that game is over but I'll probably try to get caught up before and after that.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
March 21 2009 21:38 GMT
#948
On March 22 2009 06:26 Versatile wrote:
These are things that stuck out to me from day 2, not including things that have already been expressed by others, for fear of being repetitive.

1. Camlito was killed by someone who he thought was a theatre attendant: could this indicted a mafia in some position of authority, whom he trusted, was his killer?

2. Everyone except Incognito has been killed by stabbing or an explosion; with all the creative ways there are to kill people, why would Chu only use these? I think it might be a theme of sorts.

3. As for the mafia personalities, I've come up with:
a. Powerful, dressed in all black, armed man
b. Weak, pathetic fight man
c. Tattooed biker man
d. Person-in-charge w/ bum characteristics

Just some thoughts.


The trash collection attendant killed his victim with his bare hands, not a gun (like with Incognito), or a stabbing or explosion.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
March 21 2009 21:38 GMT
#949
#I vote for Double Lynch
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
March 21 2009 21:40 GMT
#950
SoG is not in the clear, really at all, if Mandalor turns red. If he turns Miller than it is nearly guaranteed that he is blue, although it could be a DT helping him who trusted him too much (and would probably die tonight), I suppose. If Mandalor is red, mafia is now down a KP but it could still be part of some master plan.

@ Rice who says: "These clues are well thought out, and well hidden. Why would he make such blatantly obvious clues?"

Lol, how would you know how good the clues are at this point if you aren't mafia? No one has tied a clue to Rebirth of Legend, it's possible he died before a clue was made for him, so we don't know how the clues might be working this game yet.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
March 21 2009 21:53 GMT
#952
On March 22 2009 06:49 Versatile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2009 06:38 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
On March 22 2009 06:26 Versatile wrote:
These are things that stuck out to me from day 2, not including things that have already been expressed by others, for fear of being repetitive.

1. Camlito was killed by someone who he thought was a theatre attendant: could this indicted a mafia in some position of authority, whom he trusted, was his killer?

2. Everyone except Incognito has been killed by stabbing or an explosion; with all the creative ways there are to kill people, why would Chu only use these? I think it might be a theme of sorts.

3. As for the mafia personalities, I've come up with:
a. Powerful, dressed in all black, armed man
b. Weak, pathetic fight man
c. Tattooed biker man
d. Person-in-charge w/ bum characteristics

Just some thoughts.


The trash collection attendant killed his victim with his bare hands, not a gun (like with Incognito), or a stabbing or explosion.



hmm, I missed that, thanks.

quick question: what is the virtue of a dbl lynch? I see mandalor is the prime suspect, and there are clues on rice, but are we really ready to vote both of them off today?


The double lynch must be voted on today and activated tomorrow - it is pretty likely we will find another suspect in tomorrow's day post.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
March 21 2009 21:57 GMT
#954
On March 22 2009 06:56 Versatile wrote:
oh wait, nvm. I see that the dbl lynch would be for Day 3, not today's voting.

##I vote for a dbl lynch.

might want to spell out double in case the counter looks for that.
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