Ace's Mafia World! - Page 27

On November 18 2008 10:33 Ver wrote:
I forgot to add: DT's don't have to all check Mayor or Pardonner immediately like in the other plan. This is because all their communication is going through the confirmed innocent bodyguards. If there is someone roleclaiming DT, it is better that they figure out who the mole is (likely a traitor). If not, they can immediately split forces to check Mayor/Pardonner and other prominent helpers to form the core.

And just saw Mynocks post:

I don't believe that DT's can differentiate between blue and green. To quote the opening post: "The other ability of the detective is to know whether or not a person is Innocent or Mafia." Both Godfather and Traitor should show up as innocent. This is apparently different from the Capo. So we are still back to having to deal with 4 potential game wrecking people that we risk if we directly PM to Mayor after checking.

Do you really think we can take the risk of no Godfather/Traitor running for office? While they will be will be rooted out eventually by behavior, pming the roles to him will be really damaging, and I think that risk alone is worth sacrificing one or even two bodyguards and potentially messing up Mafia hits.

Is it worth delay in a game that will decide so much early on? (some of these DTs might die first or second night) It's a difficult question, because we can't foresee how well the Mafia will operate and how devastating the first nights will be. TBH, I can't see Mafia running for Mayor who isn't an AoC (can't stop anyways), Godfather, or Traitor. It would just seem so silly to come in visible when people have been discussing the BG plan extensively when they have better means at their disposal.

And I agree we absolutely must keep calm. However, the sheer number of kills early on means that reducing them by any means is extremely important. Getting a Mandalor list votecheck out shortly helps provide a solid base for the rest of the game, and getting a smaller one will be useful for letting the town's autonomous killers have something to work from.

You've been a sharp guy in the past games Mynock, and I definitely support you as well. But my primary goal at this stage (assuming the vote will end tonight) is making sure Plexa does not get Mayor. So I'm going to stick with caller for now.

On November 18 2008 10:36 Caller wrote:


ver, you're forgetting that if the mayor/pardonner is blue, they can exercise their blue ability to demonstrate that he/she is blue. I mean mafia will kill a townie mayor anyways, no point in hiding a role once in power.

On November 18 2008 10:42 Qatol wrote:


However, many of the blue roles (Veteran, Crack Bomber, Martyr, Paramedic) cannot excercise their role in such a way that they can prove that they are blue. Paramedic could save someone from a vigi hit I guess. However, that really feels like a waste. So now you're talking about a reduced blue list.

On November 18 2008 10:45 Caller wrote:


im pretty sure that paramedic mayor (looking at you malongo) would be able to pick a random prominent person to protect, as with 20 mafia hits it's incredibly likely that such person would take a hit. Even if they are mafia, at which point they simply declare that they've taken a hit and the paramedic would confirm it.

i doubt a martyr mayor would be a good idea. Seriously? lol. A crack bomber mayor would be intersting, as would a veteran.

On November 18 2008 10:47 JeeJee wrote:
I suggest everyone to
a) NOT VOTE PLEXA (mainly because he said he doesn't want mayor, so why the heck are you voting for him dumby?)
b) VOTE VER
he's posting like Ace did in that very first game oh so long ago. He's making sense, thus he's probably clean (ok i don't have any good reasoning here aside from that, but same goes for any other candidates)