EPTTL Mafia 3 [Night 5]
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On October 27 2008 07:15 Falcynn wrote: Damn it don't give them ideas.  (well unless I end up getting a mafia position...in which case thanks in advance  )Well it could always be a bad idea, look at it, instead plexa might not get any protection and then they waste their bomber... | ||
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On November 03 2008 01:06 Ace wrote: to clarify my previous post: We can't do this. If the mafia know we would lynch the person the DT accuses first, they'll obviously false claim and get the innocent Vet/Jack lynched amd sac themselves for the profit. If mafia know the DT is going to be lynched anyway, they will hesitate to false claim because the guy would flip red, and the accused is most likely legit so he died for nothing. We have to make sure everyone knows the DT WILL be lynched proactively. Couldn't this be averted by having another DT role check that DT? | ||
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Seriously...No one's thought of this? I suspect common sense to rein for all but mafia.... | ||
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No offense, but coffee and a meal....Thats his name, Coffee and a Meal.... | ||
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On November 03 2008 06:40 decafchicken wrote: I just got back to school, to find out i'm a prime mafia suspect lol. As aforementioned, there were coffee clues before in the previous game when i was a jack, not a mafia. Also seems like way too obvious a clue to drop compared to the previous clues, especially on day1. Then again my opinion is a bit biased, eh? I'd say to have a DT check me out, but that wouldn't be very helpful since how could we trust the DT till after he's lynched/murdered? Anyways, im gonna try to catch up on the rest of the thread. We could always allow the DT to role check two people....Lynch the first, if he's mafia, let'em go check another, then lynch the DT....See if he's blue then and if his checks can be trusted....ya'dig? | ||
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On November 03 2008 06:44 ~OpZ~ wrote: We could always allow the DT to role check two people....Lynch the first, if he's mafia, let'em go check another, then lynch the DT....See if he's blue then and if his checks can be trusted....ya'dig? Role check over two days.... | ||
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On November 03 2008 11:24 BloodyC0bbler wrote: After reading through the last insane amount of pages since this morning, i do like bumatlarges idea provided we can get a detective to prove his role to an innocent person he finds to use as a mouth. There giving a legit list that townie could use to update the rest of us would be insanely informative, as if that townie died to mafia hands, chances are the list is legit, or if he is lynched and turned up green his list is good. Issue being, how do you prove who's legit. I have an idea which would kinda work possibly. First day of voting, rather than abstain, we pick two inactives and vote. numbers 1-26 vote for suspect 1 numbers 27-50 vote for suspect 2 now we take the numbers on our main list and number our detectives 1-3 based on who appears first on the list (ie they would know their number, no one else would) D1 and D2 checks how many mafia voted on list one, and D3 and possibly a jack checks the role of someone the town nominates to be safe. If that person is a blue or green, D3 says nothing, then D1 and D2 PM their lists to the safe person. This would give the townie or blue a two identical lists, which would show their innocence as detectives, which gives one person with the knowledge of two roles, and a third person who can then later admit his role as well, giving one person control of three detectives. Note: issue relies on person living through first night, and b) if people speak out against you to prevent this from happening, in the case someone speaks out against you saying your a mafia, we lynch the accuser, and if he turns up green or blue we lynch the person he accused. With all this said and done, it means we as a town, have a support per se, medics know one person they can protect, and then they need just prove they are who they are, same with vig's and jacks. Just means we have to keep that one person alive briefly, as the idea is once you have that one support structure, that group gets pulled together, not needing the one dummy head any longer, and you then change leadership to a veteran. I hope it makes sense, and yes i know there are some sketchy bits in there, but just throwing the idea out Mafia know how many mafia voted for each list. Easy counter, not to lie on that check....It's too vague anyway...Mafia could just split the votes evenly and we'd be at square one......5 mafia one list, 5 the other....gg no re thx? | ||
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On November 03 2008 13:52 Alventenie wrote: I myself think we should hold off lynching folca until tomorrow. Lynching him today means hes dead for sure, waiting until tomorrow means the mafia either: A) kill him, to make sure he doesn't use any more abilities, or B) let him live, trying to cast suspicion on him making him seem fake. Instead we should try to find another mafia through the clues tonight. Once we lynch them (I am voting for decaf), tomorrow we lynch folca (if he is still alive, i believe he will be if we dont lynch him), that way he can use another ability tomorrow. If he turns blue, we vigi Ace so no one can save him, and with luck, drop the mafia kill count to 4 by tomorrow night. You guys are really charging into this without thinking of your options. Folca pretty much is sacrificing himself, but at least use him for as much as possible. By the town killing him tonight, we give the mafia an extra kill tonight that they wont waste, and it means we have more time to look for other mafia. Lynching him now would be foolish, wasting his potential where we could chance getting a mafia on day 1, not a blue. I vote for decafchicken ps. I believe midnightgladius and jimtudor are people we need to watch for. Midnight for his sig + extremely quick to lynch folca without considering the options. I also think Jimtudor should be watched due to that fact that he is almost certain folca is legit, even though he wouldn't know that by just reading folca (i believe folca, but i am not certain he is legit, so im using him to get the biggest gain for the town). Townies please reconsider folca's proposition of lynching him tonight. Let him live through the night with no paramedics watching him to see if the mafia truly wish to kill him. Pointing out Alventines beautiful post....Best idea....And remember....He was the sacrificial DT in TL MAFIA VOLUME ONE!!!!!! | ||
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On November 03 2008 13:57 Empyrean wrote: If we don't lynch Folca, will he have a chance to use his powers again and report them before he dies? If so, then I wouldn't advise lynching Folca. He'll die anyway, so in death he'll be vindicated. If no mafia target him to make him look suspicious, we'll all lynch him anyway. That's why I don't want to vote Folca. As for who to lynch, I still don't know if we can yet trust Folca (or he could be a mafia roleclaiming DT but Ace is also mafia...this way, Folca gains our trust while the mafia don't lose any killing power, and Folca can direct us to kill someone important later) since he's not dead, so because of this, I wouldn't vote for Ace either. I'll still stay with what few clues we have and vote to lynch decafchicken. I vote to lynch decafchicken. Also, has the town abandoned the Mandalor style plan I suggested earlier? If not, then we should probably coordinate first and second suspects. Also, when will Chuiu compile the vote list? If mafia kill him ACE is Mafia....Because Folca will come up DT. It would be stupid of Mafia to kill him, but allowing him to live allows Folca to use another check, and a vote check.....Then prove himself. Is Ace important enough to them to allow Folca to point more fingers? Is Folca really a detective? Is the drama in the air? WHY did Ace vote to lynch Folca if Folca is a DT and Ace is mafia? Whats with the vengeance Ace? If Folca hangs a blue DT, you committed suicide...but you did take another player out with you....Hmmmm So much to think about. | ||
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On November 03 2008 13:58 RtS)Night[Mare wrote: i disagree with you alventenine. By lynching folca we gain valuable information. either he's mafia and we have 1 hit or he's blue and we have 2 prime suspects. In the end lynching any other wont give us information until later, and by this lynching we have 2 lists we can start analyzing asap I understand your trying to help, or fuck us over, (I'm more inclined to you fucking us over) but your vote idea is bad. Two sets of votes....10 mafia.....Split the mafia. No one will vote according to your list. I don't even like your list. Ace and Folca aren't options for me. Sure, I suspect Ace, and Plexa for that matter....But it's because I can't trust them, and I want to see how Plexa continues. In the mafia games I read that Moose hosted, Plexa is the DapperDan of our forums....and if we trust in him too much he will of done what DapperDan did when he was Mafia.... | ||
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On November 03 2008 14:09 Jimtudor wrote: No, I said it looks to me that he is legit. To me, that's another way of saying imho. Based on logic, it appears why would a mafia do this. He knows he will die first before ace. He dies, turns up red, ace lives. Mafia wasted a life, ace gains even more clout. What? Where's the strategy? But nethertheless, I really hope he turns up red and is just a mafia bluffing. They could have Folca fake claim DT on a real mafia to make it look like Ace isn't mafia....hmmmmmmm | ||
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On November 03 2008 14:21 MidnightGladius wrote: Folca, why do you keep bringing up my contributions to the site? Chu has never set the precedent of doing that in the previous two games, and there's no reason why he should start now. It would make clue interpretation much too erratic and difficult both for him and us. He would have to read through 10 (+ vigil/jack) posting histories on a regular basis and assume that the town does so as well. Also, clues derived from posts would be very easy to see as red herrings. If a mafia mentioned physics, would it be referencing your blog, Empyrean's schedule that he posted in this thread, Chezinu's mad scientist profile, fanaticist's pool table photo, etc. Furthermore, there is no reason not to vote for you, given the claims you've made. Mafia's not going to kill you, since that would tip their hand either way and give the town tempo advantage. As is, the most efficient way to go about this would be to lynch you tonight. If you're red, you're red. If you're green, then screw you. And if you're confirmed DT, then town gets a confirmed kill through lynch, with maybe a second from clue analysis of the first night. Letting you get another cycle's worth of information would be nice, but the fast route is the only likely way the town has to reduce kill power, which is our top priority at the moment. Better question. Why are you posting? I agree with Folca in suspecting you to be mafia....You were quick to jump and stand with Ace WITH ABSOLUTELY NO DISCUSSION. | ||
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On November 03 2008 14:31 decafchicken wrote: Reasons not to lynch me: 1) it fucks up the list between ace and folca, which we can use to determine mafia 2) You gain way more by choosing to lynch ace or mafi 3) All you have to go on me is a clue so strong its gotta be a red herring. 4) Empy = mafiascum! I thought Chuiu doesn't throw in intentional red herrings....and if that was unintentional..... | ||
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On November 03 2008 14:40 Chuiu wrote: To answer some questions I saw: Mafia cannot target each other, it says so in the role description. Please vote in this thread, there will be no separate vote thread due to the low number of players. I have made clues based on posts in the past, these are usually the hardest to find so they tend to go unnoticed. Detectives can use their ability right away, the only class that cannot is Vigilante. Vote Count: decafchicken - 4 ~OpZ~ Jimtudor Alventenie Empyrean Folca - 7 Ace MidnightGladius RtS)Night[Mare mikeymoo BloodyC0bbler Chezinu Camlito Ace HeRoS)Pink Caller Abstain SoleSteeler Super Drunk (probably made out with a transvestite too) FakeSteve[TPR] Curious....if we leave Folca at 7 and vote check that....I wonder how many of them are mafia? I'm betting 4.... | ||
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On November 03 2008 14:40 Ace wrote: Alventenie your thinking assumes mafia are 100% stupid. Mafia wouldn't kill Folca tonight. Leaving him alive forces the town to lynch him tomorrow. Whether he gets a role check in again or a vote check in again means nothing if there are only two lists to check. So you'd actually just be starting from scratch, and taking chances on decaf's unfulfilled clue. Thats the problem people have - your long term plan isn't really long term. You HAVE to lynch Folca tomorrow anyway and he can't do a vote check when he's dead can he? So you might as well go the sure fire route and lynch him today because between me and him, you KNOW one of us is mafia. This is bs... Either way we'd be wasting a Lynch Ace, and you know it. Let me make this obvious to the entire town, (caps time) IF WE LYNCH FOLCA TOMORROW, WE GAIN MORE INFORMATION. TODAY IS A BS LYNCH. IF WE LYNCH FOLCA TODAY WE ARE STILL WASTING A LYNCH. IF MAFIA DONT KILL FOLCA AND FOLCA FLIPS BLUE, ACE IS FUCKED. IF THEY LET HIM LIVE, WHEN WE DO LYNCH HIM, IF HE FLIPS BLUE, A SURE MAFIA IS FUCKED AND THE REST OF HIS INFORMATION HELPS. SO WE GAIN MORE ALLOWING HIM TO LIVE TIL TOMORROW, and no harm except wasting time if he lied. | ||
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On November 03 2008 14:50 Ace wrote: You're right, if this was last game I would say the same thing. I'm going for Folca because we KNOW there is a collision of facts here: either him or myself are going to flip red. With decaf there isn't. The clue pointing to him is really not even that deep. Just like last game when the town has no idea what to do, we start lynching people and hope they turn red. This time, we know for a fact that either myself or Folca is going to flip red and it sounds like you guys are banking on the fact that he flips blue. And if he is red, doesn't get lynched tonight and decaf flips green today then what will we all be saying? On November 03 2008 14:51 Empyrean wrote: We traded off a townie life for more information by a detective that may lead to more mafia deaths. epic rebuttal | ||
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On November 03 2008 15:01 BloodyC0bbler wrote: as one general note as well, im a cook and thinking about the final meal "clue" In a traditional meal setting, as in a banquet or the like, you would have coffee after finishing the entire meal, as a finisher. Rather than just pin decaf as he fits the chicken = meal, and decaf = coffee Yogurt fits the mold by also being a food item, with a picture of it in his profile Falcynn has applesauce repeated as part of his profile Hero's pink has two people sharing a milkshake More than just one food connection, and as a final meal coffee makes sense, so not really a good lynch guys, lets think on it more You can thank me later decaf :p Usually you finish your meal before drinking the coffee.... | ||
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On November 03 2008 15:03 Alventenie wrote: Incorrect, Folca will be lynched tomorrow if he is alive. We won't deviate from our path of killing accusers who role call detective. The fact that we are keeping him alive 1 extra day is to get more info before he dies, but die he will. Its the only way to 100% know if ace is mafia or not. I will probably be voting Ace tomorrow if Folca lives through the night....Just because the mafia might not kill him to make us kill him, just because how staunch Ace is on his murder Folca path.... | ||
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On November 03 2008 15:05 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Unless clues start to point towards ace after tonight, but that isnt likely to be easy to spot let us do remember Ace can possibly have clues pointing at him right now...K? No mayor, No authority....Let us no listen to Ace... | ||
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On November 03 2008 15:06 Ace wrote: Emp of course I'm defending decaf: no one has yet to give strong evidence to why he should die. and like I've said countless times, myself and Folca already present a CLEAR path to a resolution. You and Alventenie are BANKING on the best case scenario when you have no idea whether decaf is gonna flip or not. Did any of you cite any DT investigation into decaf? No. Your whole thing is "I think this clue fits him", and neither of you are even known for being great at clue analysis. Thats why I'm not buying it. And of course I'm sure you would say that. Me defending decaf paints both of us mafia. So lynch me first now, instead of Folca even though the burden of proof is on him and he has nothing to do with decaf. Right. Makes perfect sense don't you think? Why not bank on the best case scenario....Decaf might flip blue....he might flip red....he might flip green....Either way Folca dieing today would be stupid....Instead why not vote you dead today and cut out the middle? | ||
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On November 03 2008 16:40 fanatacist wrote: I think MTF's clue on MidnightGladius is particularly strong. I was like "GOD DAMN O:" Agreed. | ||
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On November 03 2008 17:19 Mandalor wrote: Did Folca use his second role check already? I've read through the last pages, but probably missed it. If you haven't, I suggest checking either nemY or SoleSteeler. It really only is a gut feeling I have, but first of all they posted the exact same things: "I abstain, because I don't have a clue. Good Luck to the town blah blah." Sort of. It's the exact same thing 80% of us mafia did at the beginning of the last game before we had a plan. I vote to lynch Folca, for now. How are you going to ask if he used it, THEN VOTE HIM?! | ||
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On November 03 2008 17:22 fanatacist wrote: I have to disagree with you. People abstain from voting when they don't agree with the current trends in the game (the current Folca vs Ace thing is kind of ugly and fishy to me, it seems a bit too weird that someone would impale themselves on the cross for 1 Mafia kill. There is definitely a ploy in there to fuck the town over, imo.). Mafia would be more likely to play along with the plans in motion so as to mix themselves in with the crowd. At least that's how I see it. EDIT: Good night all. It would be more useful to vote some random person....Mafia can hide by abstaining...They can't hide by voting someone random. For all abstaining, vote for me. Don't hide yourselves by abstaining. That is suspicious. | ||
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On November 06 2008 15:07 Chuiu wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n99/chuiu/TLday.png) Audaciously anticipating accessible attempts an anonymous assumed a angle. As Empyrean advanced around adversely his advantage abated. As abruptly as Empyrean agitated an anonymous accelerated. Aroused, anonymous attacked actively accusing an abrasion abhorrent and animating. Anemic and asthmatic Empyrean assuredly after all'ed. Marked man maneuvered muted into mysterious mien. Alventenie mindlessly massaged as man made most merrily memories the milestone materializing. Mediating machete with misfit man murderously mutilated Alventenie monstrously. Murdered and massacred Alventenie mangled the mat. Indifference innovated ingenious individual to invent initiative. Instinctively individual intervened impetuously in Caller inflicting insult and injury. Irrationally irritated Caller insisted in improvement. Insulted, individual interpreted as insurrection and inflated Caller into inextricable. Nervously Fishball nudged nearly to navigator. Nefarious neighbor non-belligerently narrowed nukes nearer. Nastily needling nuggets nefarious neighbor naturally newbied Fishball. Nevermore. [noCluesArea] You know the drill Who was protected....? And thx for the temp ban Plexa....I couldn't change my vote ;-; </end hatred.> | ||
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On November 07 2008 01:35 fanatacist wrote: Next time just compile all your responses into one post instead of continuously posting without checking the thread. He warned you repeatedly but because you were busy spamming posts every minute you didn't see it. Just have some common sense man. I'm aware...I was just lazy and didn't feel like cutting and pasting @_@ Oh well...I don't really care anymore....I suggest whoever got protected speak up.... Until then, BECAUSE HE SURVIVED.... I would like to vote for Plexa p.s. Not cuz you banned me, but unless you were the one protected last night, and two hits on one went down, or a vet was hit....you would be MAFIOSO, I'm highly open to changing my vote if any of that is the case. p.p.s. I mean, come on, Plexa living? Get real. | ||
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I mean...that could just be a lie? I don't doubt exams though, I have a mid term next Monday.... Just curious if he said he'd be inactive.... Edit: I've already said....I'm entirely willing to accept the fact you just lived... I'm still all for lynching Decaf too, even though I'd like to tie more, but I gotta head to class.... | ||
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On November 07 2008 02:18 XCetron wrote: I think the clue in "Man" can be a possible connection to BloodyC0bbler, here are my reasonings: His user name is BloodyC0bbler, perhaps "man murderously mutilated Alventenie monstrously" is a reference to that. Also another phrase in the "Man" description: "as man made most merrily memories the milestone materializing". CB's quote says "Quote Sweet Water and Light Laughter" , maybe its connected, the merrily and laughter, as those two usually accompany each other. Also "Alventenie mindlessly massaged" perhaps he was in the bathtub, so "Sweet water" is linked to that. How was that looked over? I agree with this....It makes sense... Bloody cobbler....Sounds very gore filled.....Sounds extremely plausible.... I think vigi Ace is better than lynching him....its a sure fire mafia kill, we won't get many of those, so its better than randomly sending vigis after townies....So I disagree with fusion on that... GOD no mayor, can't trust anyone....this makes it difficult....kinda suspicious that fusion said to lynch him instead....vigi hits can't be blocked unless a paramedic's involved...@_@ | ||
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On November 07 2008 02:32 BloodyC0bbler wrote: as could you, or every other player here, I merely observed that due to the nature of my name, for your reasons the connection is slim. Or it could just be strong, if you think of cobbler as the dessert.... EDIT: SORRY FOR THE DOUBLE POST Forgive me, I won't do it again @_@ I forgot....And had two windows open... | ||
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On November 07 2008 03:50 BloodyC0bbler wrote: How does me being a potential dessert be a strong connection? the last meal clue from day 1 already links to like 4-5 people, adding me to it makes it picking between a bunch of people who due to the alliteration could link to everyone on it. I do appreciate the looking into clues, but its more fruitful looking somewhere that will get you a mafia. Honestly I didn't think of the first day clues with this set yet... But I was referring to how cobblers get messy....The attack was messy....That's why I said Chuiu could of been pointing the clue at you...But you just reminded me of the last meal clue.... @_@ | ||
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On November 07 2008 11:48 fusionsdf wrote: it matters fuck all who the vigi targets whether they target ace or target some random player THEY WILL LEAVE CLUES BEHIND however, anyone we try to vigi only has a chance of dying, due to the fact we cant coordinate the vigis/jack, unless we stack all of them on one person. Anyone we lynch is 100% GUARANTEED to die we are 100% sure ace is mafia. so lets use our guaranteed kill on ace. If we try to vigi him and he survives, you will feel reeeeeeeeeeallly stupid. If we tr to vigi someone who may or may not be mafia, thats really not that bad a thing. But....if we Vigi Ace WE KNOW who got vigi'd....That way we know what set of clues NOT to interpret. | ||
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On November 09 2008 11:41 fusionsdf wrote: While I dont trust opz or chezinu, ace isnt going to be so easy to interpret as that mynock Look...I gave you the perfect way to trust me....Vote check my list...I was the only one who voted for Plexa (ass hole). Go...Do that...Townie I bet.... | ||
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On November 10 2008 09:21 Scorch wrote: Before a serious bandwagon is started against me: Don't make a mistake by lynching me. I'm an innocent townie. I'm very active and try to be constructive and helpful. (Just like in the last game btw, I was townie there too.) There are other suspects who can't say that. Please lynch those before me, and see whether more fire clues come up in the meantime. When in doubt, leave the talkative guy alive and kill the silent one instead, who wouldn't be useful even if he was a townie. I can offer to vote for someone that noone else votes for, so that detectives can easily check that list without wasting a role check on me. If someone else has an idea how I can clear my name, please tell me. Lol...I see you like my idea of proving innocence. <3 On November 10 2008 11:43 RtS)Night[Mare wrote: i ask Zbir and Artanix[xp] to vote for some unknown to be able to check for mafia. Failure to do this will result in next in the line for the gallows. What pull do you have to make such a statement? =D I vote for Scorch cuz I love him! Really...I'm just voting you to be different. You will never get enough votes to be higher than Midnight. | ||
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On November 10 2008 11:54 BloodyC0bbler wrote: As to let detectives check that im innocent and not a suspect, I vote for infundibulum You can check me then and see my innocence. My idea is being over used. I only said that idea so the detectives can find mouths so use to post their findings...you'll be a mouth if you do that as a proven townie. Detectives...question chuiu about his vote, then send your findings to him if he is townie. If he doesn't post your shit....we will know he's mafia and slay him with a vengeance. | ||
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On November 10 2008 11:52 fusionsdf wrote: IMPORTANT NEWS someone has PMed me claiming to be a detective, and they used a role check on fanatacist he is mafia (if you believe the PM, which I do, since mafia doesnt gain a ton by faking it) so do we switch votes tonight, or lynch midnight gladius and lynch fanatacist tomorrow? tl;dr: fanatacist is mafia Well....either way you're supporting the lynching of Fanatacist... I change my vote to Fanatacist so as to reduce the Mafia's kill count before nightfall. | ||
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That certainly is a possiblity...But Fusion is probably a vet...we've already proven that the mafia missed a hit.... Edit: Gay...timing on posts.... | ||
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On November 02 2008 14:49 Chuiu wrote: Many in the crowd were excessively enthusiastic about the lynching and many were grave and quiet. *Points finger at fanatacist* Edit: On November 10 2008 12:45 KH1031 wrote: Hmm... Am I missing something here? From what I observed, I posted a possible clue on MidnightGladius and everyone jumped on the bandwagon. Then fusionsdf came out with some breaking news, then everyone switched again. Also, it seems that no one has questioned fusionsdf's identity so far (Seriously, am I missing something here?) Okay...case breakdown again: Assuming that all of the following players are sane (Big assumption, I must say) 1. fusionsdf/fusionsdf got a PM from a DT, whom rolechecked fanatacist, and fanatacist is a mafia. 2. fusionsdf/fusionsdf got a PM from a DT, whom claimed that he rolechecked fanatacist, and fanatacist/fanatacist is not a mafia 3. fusionsdf MADE UP THE PM, and fanatacist/fanatacist is not a mafia. 4. fusionsdf MADE UP THE PM, and fanatacist is a mafia 5. fusionsdf got a PM from a DT, whom claimed that he rolechecked fanatacist, and fanatacist is a mafia. It seems like most of the posts so far only considered cases 1 and 2. Unless you guys know some information that I don't, I cannot see why we should rule out the possibility of case 3. Case 4 and 5 seems rather unlikely, but I think it's necessary to put it up here. Edit: Apparently my reply took a while to type up, and meanwhile more drama happened while I was typing this up. I have to head to bed...maybe tomorrow I'll see what happens. Didn't someone PROVE Fusion was hit by Mafia last night cycle? Or is no one paying attention to that? Or perhaps a vigi hit him and mafia stacked kills on someone, something stupid to do the night you use your suicide bomber.... | ||
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On November 09 2008 11:00 Mynock wrote: + Show Spoiler + Now, the Ace posts: Ace is having fun this game. Well, had. It was obvious from how he posts, he even PMed me about it, whatever. We can make certain observations from his "party behaviour". There are people IN his party team, and people OUTSIDE. How would he address the people IN? Indirectly, because THEY know what it is all about. While addressing people OUTSIDE, he would point at them directly, and the tension would be higher. Watch for these two patterns in how Ace made his posts: Example01: "Ace: Lololol, Town is so dumb, oh my god!" "Player01: Yeah lol, we fucked up a bit, shut up already" "Ace: Lololol, listen to this mafifesto!" "Player01: Mafifesto, lolol, fock off!" <--- Partying MAFIA Example02: "Ace: Hey, you dumb townie, what the fuck do you think you know?! NOTHING! We know so much!!!" "Player02: Shut the fuck up, I'm not interested, you're annoying, go die!" "Ace: I made you waste a lynch, lolol, idiot townie!" "Player02: ...*steaming*" <--- Annoyed TOWNIE Now obviously, this can't be decisive either. But it can prove to be a good starting point. I will look through the previous posts now, and gather out these two patterns, but I can already say that a good example for pattern01 (possible MAFIA) would be Chezinu, fusionsdf and fanatacist (nice friendly chat with Ace and each other, pp 62-63, also, were trying to make less people vote for Ace by splitting the votes up, and fanata was trying to push suggesting bumatlarge is likely mafia because of that famous PM he got from Ace) and , while the other example (probably TOWNIE) would include FakeSteve. Chezinu: I change my vote. I vote for xDark.Carnivalx I think ace is on to something..lol For The MAFIA MANIFESTO! I'd advise the DT to check the DarkCarnival votelist. I'm curious if my analysis works, and if I live another day I will post the result of that (we save a role check) Also, take a look at this exchange between ~OpZ~ and Ace: On November 08 2008 08:36 ~OpZ~ wrote: Isn't....It easier for the detectives to single out individuals if the group they are voting for is tiny....like....If three people voted for midnight, and dt checked, and none were mafia....? I mean....if you have one person vote for some random townie....the DT won't need to rolecheck the person to find out if he's townie or mafia....so you don't waste a rolecheck On November 08 2008 09:18 Ace wrote: ~opz~ I see leaving you alive also won't be an issue. The reason the town doesn't want to vigi me, at least the smart guys anyway has nothing to do with the town going "lolz thats dah vigi right tharr! don't inteput it yoz!". Mafia can also interpret it, so you'd leave the vigis out to hang genius. Instead of arguing with people why don't you actually read their posts and see why it makes sense not to follow your advice. Ace is addressing him very directly, mocking and insulting him. Yet Ace didn't even understand what OpZ was talking about, misinterpreting him completely. If this was two mafias talking, they would know exactly what they're talking about. Again, just my observations, and I'm curious as to how it works out. But hey, if I didn't do any thinking here, I'd just be a dead weight before I die, right? Feel free to look for flaws, but please, do it logically, and politely. So, keep in mind that nonce of these are definitive, but these are my suspects based PURELY on my little post analysis: Chezinu, fisionsdf, fanatacist. Hmm...Maybe thats why you were rolechecked fanatacist. | ||
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On November 10 2008 12:52 fanatacist wrote: FanatIcism, maybe. Fanatacist, no. It's a bastardization of a Russian word that me and my friends used as a band name back in the day. How is Chuiu supposed to know a word you used as a band name? Couldn't it be...Oh I don't know...Like my name? Opz meaning Ops meaning operations. Do I expect Chuiu to know my personal history? | ||
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On November 10 2008 13:03 fanatacist wrote: I understand this point, but the spelling is not the same. Cat and hat are off by one letter, does that make one of them a possible clue for the other? No. If you want me to look up clues in this fashion I'm sure I can give you a rather long list of names where you change one or two letters to make it apply to a phrase in Chuiu's post. Can you please do this then? Please? Stop throwing out the fact that your name is extremely close to fanaticism. | ||
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And I'm sry Fanatacist...I took it out, after I realized you replied to it later on. | ||
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On November 10 2008 13:43 RtS)Night[Mare wrote: hahaha i bet i wont wake up next morning >.< I hope not, Mafioso | ||
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On November 10 2008 20:22 wurm wrote: lol.. random indeed. Here we go again with the roleclaim/pm and lynch move. Hopefully this turns out right this time and we get a red. ## I vote for fanatacist It turned out right last time. | ||
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On November 10 2008 09:14 RtS)Night[Mare wrote: ZBiR, Artanis[Xp], HeRoS)Pink, Lenwe, BloodyC0bbler Listen : because you people are being suspected heavily, you should split your votes; since its only 5 of you, i really doubt it will swing the balance to any side so: imDerek <--- vote for him ZBiR Artanis[Xp] i think you guys should only vote for imDerek, he's rather inactive so whatever. Heroes)PinkHeRoS)Pink, Lenwe, BloodyC0bbler vote wherever you want. I think the town has not agreed in one top suspect but should we agree on one we should vote on him. As for my self, i think the strongest suspect is scorch atm; i would tell you to vote for him but this is free will haha Scorch and Cobbler are voting seperate people by themselves so DT's could check them if need by. Edit: Lol...My Sig is evil....I'd be the perfect suicide bomber ;>> | ||
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Wurm - 1 Scorch Midnight Gladius - 5 ulszz ShadowDrgn xDark.Carnivalx goldenkrnboi Fanatacist Fanatacist - 16 KH1031 ~OpZ~ fusionsdf HeRoS)Pink mikeymoo clazziquai FakeSteve[TPR] Bockit MidnightGladius RtS)Night[Mare Jimtudor Camlito [GiTM]-Ace araav SoleSteeler wurm XCetron infundibulum - 1 BloodyC0bbler imDerek - 1 Artanis[Xp] Not Voted Yet This Cycle - 12 aZnvaLiaNce MTF Chezinu JeeJee iNfuNdiBuLuM Falcynn Plexa KF91 Lenwe G.s)NarutO ZBiR imDerek 25 of 37 Votes | ||
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On November 12 2008 12:25 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: i like the rest of what you wrote very much, but i don't think that interpretation makes a lot of sense because of the use of the word needling. otherwise it would be like smaug from lord of the rings. Maybe "needling" as in trying to pry or provoke "nuggets" of information? Or perhaps he was needling the nuggets (bullets) into the barrel of his gun? I think shadowdrgn is mafia now....Lol.... | ||
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On November 12 2008 12:25 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: i like the rest of what you wrote very much, but i don't think that interpretation makes a lot of sense because of the use of the word needling. otherwise it would be like smaug from lord of the rings. Maybe "needling" as in trying to pry or provoke "nuggets" of information? Or perhaps he was needling the nuggets (bullets) into the barrel of his gun? I would like to attract some more attention to this post...by a mafia....trying to defend ShadowDrgn. Nevermore can indicate a raven, or something that flies....like a dragon....Narrowed nukes nearer? Fired fire blasts closer? Has this list been vote checked? MidnightGladius - 5 fanatacist ulszz ShadowDrgn xDark.Carnivalx goldenkrnboi | ||
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On November 12 2008 15:25 Chuiu wrote: Elsewhere in the town aZnvaLiaNce and Bockit were drinking at a bar. It was getting late by now and they got up to leave the bar. On their way to the car they heard something from the alley. Both of them staggered in to see what was going on and came across two people. Time wasn't wasted as the two men attacked aZnvaLiaNce and Bockit. The first took bold strikes at his opponent and did very little damage as Bockit defended himself against the attacks. The other waited in defense and taunted aZnvaLiaNce to attack him first. Bockit went on the offense and started landing blow after blow on his opponent who was backing up in defense. aZnvaLiaNce finally did strike first but was quickly stopped as his opponent stopped defending and struck at an exposed spot, causing aZnvaLiaNce to fall to the ground instantly in pain. Bockit continued to follow his opponent further but soon stopped as he was tripped to the ground. aZnvaLiaNce got up and just as he did so he was head butted and knocked back to the ground. Bockit was quickly restrained and found his opponent wrapping something around his neck and tightening it, causing him to lose his breath. aZnvaLiaNce was pretty dizzy after the blow and stumbled to his feet, but didn't get far as he was grabbed by his opponent. Bockit struggled all he could but eventually suffocated to death. Readied for a final blow, aZnvaLiaNce was struck hard by another headbutt, this one shattering his skull and killing him in the process. Again, the idea of the mafia being weak, but going at bockit hard. Bockit handled the mafia before he gets tripped again, a reoccurring theme also. Bockit is then chocked by SOMETHING....before dieing from suffocation. This mafia can't fight a standing opponent....tentacles? a tail? A fire hose? Something....Honestly this could be someone throwing units at someone.... Could point at Plexa... The other mafia attacking aznvaliance shows the same characteristic from another day post of counter fighting, and being rather apt in defense, knocks aznvaliance down. He then gets headbutted and falls again before being headbutted a second time as the killing blow. Someone who headbutts repetitively and can defend rather well and quickly.... As dawn was breaking G.s)NarutO felt it was appropriate for him to leave after a night of watching over his benefactor. He went to start up his van only to hear it click. Trying a couple more times: click click. G.s)NarutO popped the hood and went out to take a look at what was wrong with his vehicle. Looking down he saw that the battery wire was loose almost as if it had been tugged off the connector from a weird angel. He bent over to fix it and just as he did someone from behind him smashed his face into the engine. G.s)NarutO was pulled by his hair away from the van and his opponent shared a few blows to the chest with him. Trying to get away G.s)NarutO threw a couple needles in his pocket at his assailant but it did little good especially considering they were safely covered. Cracking a needle on the ground his opponent walked toward G.s)NarutO and gave him an uppercut sending him flying backward landing on the ground. Just before he could get up he felt the stab of the unshattered needle in his skin and fell unconscious. G.s)NarutO died shortly after when injected by several more of his needles. Dawn breaking? Sounds like a Twilight novel =P His van was disabled...and clicks. The battery wires were removed at a weird angle....how can this be done weird? Ow...His face hit the engine...good thing it wasn't hot huh? They both hit each other in the chest a few times. Naruto threw some covered needles at his opponent while trying to get away, but his opponent has time to grab one, crack it, and then uppercut naruto onto the ground? Or did he step on it to crack it? He gets stabbed by an unshattered needle into naruto, or naruto was uppercutted onto it... The mafia kills him by injecting several his (narutos or mafias?) needles into naruto.... | ||
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Mad hatters.... I would like to inform you guys....Your bombs are dangerous. Please don't place them on people unless you are almost certain they are mafia... ![[image loading]](http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3172/2634328432_03dd2ec387.jpg?v=0) | ||
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On November 13 2008 12:02 ulszz wrote: honestly that plexa fusionsdf convo looks so fuckin staged. i wouldn't be surprised if both were mafia... i vote to lynch plexa edit- add convo Fusions trying to get Plexa lynched....Staged? o_o... | ||
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Actually...Next vote cycle we should have a max list of 14 people. Then spread the others onto two groups of 7. That would give both the remaining detectives the perfect equation. Anyone abstaining would be hiding. Anyone "forgetting to vote" would be hiding. I'd try and pin those people down first. With two list checks, and 3 lists we can get the numbers on all the lists. | ||
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On November 15 2008 16:02 mikeymoo wrote: Format: My suspect Day 1 vote, Day 2, etc etc. X means abstain or no vote. + Show Spoiler + 1. imDerek XXFZ 3. Jimtudor FAFMi 5. Camlito FAFZ 9. MTF FXFZ 10. clazziquai AAFZ 11. wurm FAFZ 13. Chezinu XDXMi 15. xDark.Carnivalx DAMZ 21. SoleSteeler XAFZ 23. ~OpZ~ DPFX 32. goldenkrnboi DAMX 34. Scorch DAWZ 37. KH1031 DXFMt 40. Falcynn AAFX 43. Plexa MXXX Out of respect I say we leave Plexa alone. 44. KF91 XXXX (INTERESTING) 49. [GiTM]-Ace FXFZ I voted for ZBiR on that last day.... Edit: Mafia has another reoccurring theme. Head smashing. | ||
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On November 16 2008 04:57 araav wrote: only three mafia left. detectives come and speak! let's finish this off quickly Ignore this. | ||
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On November 17 2008 04:18 MTF wrote: Well, it looks like I'm dead tonight. Before I die I'd like to say that town has been playing pretty damn well this game, especially vigilantes/Jacks who used vigikill abilities. This is on top of town having no beginning structure (which I was not a part of this game ;_; ) and creating one for itself. So, good job to those involved. As for my defense, I don't believe I can come up with a solid one. I'm stuck with my turtle here. :p GG and GL, all. Edit: O, and I vote for [GiTM-]Ace. ;-;....I still refuse to think you're mafia... ## I change my vote from KF91 to Plexa for lynching my idol ;-; | ||
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Aw...I thought I did something useful saving Fusions life two nights ago ;-; | ||
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I protected him every night...Fusion agreed it was a good idea....and he was EVIL?! The game was so stacked....Ace, MTF, Plexa? Wtf?! Ace really messed up jumping to kill folca....but he was toast anyway it went at that point. Props to Folca.... | ||
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