EPTI mean I'm not surprised. Because I'm mafia.
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ahrara_
Afghanistan1715 Posts
I mean I'm not surprised. Because I'm mafia. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
The only thing he arguably did wrong was write it in green but any decent townie would know it's not proof of their innocence. The hardest part was like what others said - clues. I think the townies should have just stayed with the inactives and kept the game going (no offense to the new guys brought in) to avoid all this :/ | ||
Bockit
Sydney2287 Posts
It's just gonna take far too long for either side to kill the other. Take that from someone who knows both sides atm. Just call it a draw and have it over. | ||
MasterOfChaos
Germany2896 Posts
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Night[Mare
Mexico4793 Posts
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
 But at least I should be able to make some posts during Night 19. And maybe vote if I get back early enough on Sunday (but I'll probably be so hyped up from the tournament that I might forget T_T). Man, I suck.  | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
it's not like the mafia have suffered from inactivity either  anyways... i guess back to the game? | ||
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Scorch
Austria3371 Posts
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MasterOfChaos
Germany2896 Posts
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Mynock
4492 Posts
And more importantly - will there be a next round? | ||
mikeymoo
Canada7170 Posts
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Mynock
4492 Posts
On July 13 2008 03:28 mikeymoo wrote: If there's a next round we need a way to make sure people are active. Maybe they have to PM Chuiu to say that they've read the Day/Night or something. I'm sure Chuiu has better things to do than read ~100 PMs every time he makes a post  I can imagine the vote tallying is a hassle as it is.Maybe Chuiu could ask a friendly admin to program an automated voting feature for the Mafia game? | ||
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
hey, maybe the number of kills you get should be related to the number of active mafia. wait no that wouldn't work because mafia don't have as much of a reason to 'afk out' from the game because they have a role unless you actually have a suggestion as to how to fix the inactive problem aside from replacing them, then crying won't help at all. keep in mind this game is balanced when all the townies are active. the only reason this game is close is because half the town is afk. IMO replacing is still the way to go except now just list them as "players" rather than "townies" as townie implies innocence (although a mafioso is still a townie, else he wouldn't be able to vote) | ||
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AcrossFiveJulys
United States3612 Posts
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Wizard
Poland5055 Posts
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randombum
United States2378 Posts
On July 13 2008 03:45 JeeJee wrote: lol i can't believe the mafia are complaining about replacing inactive townies hey, maybe the number of kills you get should be related to the number of active mafia. wait no that wouldn't work because mafia don't have as much of a reason to 'afk out' from the game because they have a role unless you actually have a suggestion as to how to fix the inactive problem aside from replacing them, then crying won't help at all. keep in mind this game is balanced when all the townies are active. the only reason this game is close is because half the town is afk. IMO replacing is still the way to go except now just list them as "players" rather than "townies" as townie implies innocence (although a mafioso is still a townie, else he wouldn't be able to vote) First, we are not complaining about replacing inactive players, we are complaining about replacing players and declaring their role. Also, If the game is balanced when all the townies are active, and it is close with 1/2 the town inactive then it clearly isn't balanced if the whole town was here. Finally, there are more inactive mafia than everybody is suggesting, Theres at least 5 or 6 already dead mafia who weren't involved or were barely involved in our actions at all. | ||
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Chuiu
3470 Posts
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
On July 13 2008 05:22 randombum wrote: First, we are not complaining about replacing inactive players, we are complaining about replacing players and declaring their role. Also, If the game is balanced when all the townies are active, and it is close with 1/2 the town inactive then it clearly isn't balanced if the whole town was here. Finally, there are more inactive mafia than everybody is suggesting, Theres at least 5 or 6 already dead mafia who weren't involved or were barely involved in our actions at all. p1: that's fine, if only it'd have happened. I guess to make it clear, Chuiu could refer to them as participants or whatever and not color their name if it helps you p2: yes. let's not forget the fact that mafia got the list of the blues too p3: yes. now if only it affected you guys somehow... you know, similar to how it's affecting town right now =) | ||
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Chuiu
3470 Posts
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Mynock
4492 Posts
On July 13 2008 05:22 randombum wrote: First, we are not complaining about replacing inactive players, we are complaining about replacing players and declaring their role. Also, If the game is balanced when all the townies are active, and it is close with 1/2 the town inactive then it clearly isn't balanced if the whole town was here. Finally, there are more inactive mafia than everybody is suggesting, Theres at least 5 or 6 already dead mafia who weren't involved or were barely involved in our actions at all. The town did an AMAZING good job at rooting out Mafia. Plexa, Ace, MTF and others did a tremendous job here. Mafia on the other hand was playing sloppy (even though you even had the whole lost of blues), that's why you don't deserve the win. Also, even tho the mafia had 5 or 6 inactives, it hurt you what? Jack shit, because it only takes 1 active mafia for the whole fraction to act according to plan, while the Town doesn't have this luxury. And, since the game was basically played with 30 less people for Town than it should have been, I think it's a clear cut victory for Town all things considered. 30 more people would have made things so much more difficult for Mafia - more targets to aim for, lots more analyzing, less potential misses due to randomly lynching inactives, etc, etc... Inactivity only hurt the Town, that's the bottom line. Mafia knows everything beforehand, so in the extreme case of say, 1 active person in the Town fraction, and 1 active person in the Mafia fraction at the start of the game, Mafia wins on first night. In this case, the odds were stacked against Town, but still it took so long for all the actives to perish. Honestly, this can't be a Mafia win after all that happened. | ||
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