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Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
June 18 2008 04:04 GMT
#6240
From Wiki: "The games take mostly one week and every month 3 games are started and finished."

One week? Hehehe...
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
June 24 2008 06:52 GMT
#6310
Ahahaha, I hard so laughed there, great post Chuiu, nice wriggling suresh0t!!
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
July 03 2008 18:24 GMT
#6420
I agree as well.

Also, the inactives problem really kills Town. It obviously is nothing to Mafia, since every one of them gets a cool special role, but that's not how it is with Town. Probably main reason why I always found Mafia's outcries about imbalance ridiculous.

Anyways, this was just to try and breathe some life into this game, would like to see this round end ASAP tho
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
July 07 2008 08:16 GMT
#6463
/Puts fake moustache on. Hallo thar' folks, I been walkin' by an' saw this thread... somebody was lookin' for replacements?
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
July 07 2008 11:10 GMT
#6467
With the inactive townies, the mafia never even has to do anything from the beginning. They might as well just sit around on their asses and wait till all the active portion of the town is dead. Most of mafia's actions this game resulted in them being discovered anyway.

And it takes only 1 (one) active mafia to make the whole fraction effective, not to mention that probably nobody in the Mafia group is actually inactive, since they all have roles.

Giving the win to Mafia after the great game the Town pulled this round would be to spit in Town's face. I hope for a more just solution. :/
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
July 08 2008 07:58 GMT
#6503
Actually, Chuiu just has to post a bit more... damning clues about the mafia, that's all
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
July 12 2008 06:11 GMT
#6538
On July 12 2008 14:58 randombum wrote:
huh? So... Chuiu just randomly handing out random greens to people is what is suppose to happen in this game? And pointing out the faults in him doing it is crying?

So if Chuiu starts going "[insert mafia name] killed [insert town name]" And I said WTF? I'd be crying again?

Or what if in Chuiu's next night it goes "Hand of god strikes down [insert mafia name]", complaining about that would be crying?

Or if Chuiu decides to say "Ok, NM theres 1 townie and 4 mafia, but they all ate something bad and died of over crapping, town wins" I wouldn't be allowed to complain about that either?


For the record, I was wondering whether the two newcomers were actually townies, especially since Mafia only made 2 kills at night, I suspected there might be inactives among them. And just as I was thinking "damn, one of those is probably a mafia, and the town won't even suspect anything, this is bad..." comes along randombum and clears things up.

Thanks!
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
July 12 2008 18:22 GMT
#6550
So... what will this game come to now? :/

And more importantly - will there be a next round?
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
July 12 2008 18:42 GMT
#6552
On July 13 2008 03:28 mikeymoo wrote:
If there's a next round we need a way to make sure people are active. Maybe they have to PM Chuiu to say that they've read the Day/Night or something.


I'm sure Chuiu has better things to do than read ~100 PMs every time he makes a post I can imagine the vote tallying is a hassle as it is.

Maybe Chuiu could ask a friendly admin to program an automated voting feature for the Mafia game?
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
July 12 2008 20:53 GMT
#6560
On July 13 2008 05:22 randombum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2008 03:45 JeeJee wrote:
lol i can't believe the mafia are complaining about replacing inactive townies

hey, maybe the number of kills you get should be related to the number of active mafia. wait no that wouldn't work because mafia don't have as much of a reason to 'afk out' from the game because they have a role

unless you actually have a suggestion as to how to fix the inactive problem aside from replacing them, then crying won't help at all. keep in mind this game is balanced when all the townies are active. the only reason this game is close is because half the town is afk.

IMO replacing is still the way to go except now just list them as "players" rather than "townies" as townie implies innocence (although a mafioso is still a townie, else he wouldn't be able to vote)


First, we are not complaining about replacing inactive players, we are complaining about replacing players and declaring their role.

Also, If the game is balanced when all the townies are active, and it is close with 1/2 the town inactive then it clearly isn't balanced if the whole town was here.

Finally, there are more inactive mafia than everybody is suggesting,
Theres at least 5 or 6 already dead mafia who weren't involved or were barely involved in our actions at all.


The town did an AMAZING good job at rooting out Mafia. Plexa, Ace, MTF and others did a tremendous job here. Mafia on the other hand was playing sloppy (even though you even had the whole lost of blues), that's why you don't deserve the win.

Also, even tho the mafia had 5 or 6 inactives, it hurt you what? Jack shit, because it only takes 1 active mafia for the whole fraction to act according to plan, while the Town doesn't have this luxury.

And, since the game was basically played with 30 less people for Town than it should have been, I think it's a clear cut victory for Town all things considered. 30 more people would have made things so much more difficult for Mafia - more targets to aim for, lots more analyzing, less potential misses due to randomly lynching inactives, etc, etc...

Inactivity only hurt the Town, that's the bottom line. Mafia knows everything beforehand, so in the extreme case of say, 1 active person in the Town fraction, and 1 active person in the Mafia fraction at the start of the game, Mafia wins on first night. In this case, the odds were stacked against Town, but still it took so long for all the actives to perish. Honestly, this can't be a Mafia win after all that happened.
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
July 19 2008 02:07 GMT
#6646
Damn you guys, how long does it take for you to lynch my killer and avengeee meeee -.-

But, my soul will finally rest in peace soon.
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
July 30 2008 08:41 GMT
#6782
On July 30 2008 15:11 Bill307 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2008 14:14 Meta wrote:
Sometimes I wonder if it all was really worth it. Sure, there were 20 mafia amongst are 130 something brethren at the start, but was killing them really worth all this death? How will we pick up the pieces in the future with so few alive, and so few, still, active? This disaster that has struck our town, so much death, will we ever be able to move on? Over the course of three short weeks our numbers have dwindled so low, that if we win, will we really be winning?

Of course you'll be "winning". Just tell all the remaining women that they've gotta help repopulate the town.

... oh wait...


Now you see how difficult it is to keep quiet in the grave!!
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
August 03 2008 12:18 GMT
#6808
Don't stop after the town has won guys. Lynch Dr.Dragoon and ahrara pls.
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
August 04 2008 18:05 GMT
#6829
Whoa, yay, we can raise from our graves, and make this thread go OVER NINE THOUSAND!!!!

Yes, I'm also interested in hearing a detailed explanation as to why Mafia thinks the Town was overpowered. From my perspective, it was a simple combination of good planning (Ace & co.) and great dedication (Plexa & co.) that ensured Town victory even with that IRCgate incident, and later the rolesgate incident.

GJ to all who participated, I wonder how the next round will go

Thanks a lot Chuiu for taking your time and providing all the entertainment!
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
August 05 2008 21:04 GMT
#6898
In retrospect I realized how the biggest mistake I made was being overprotective against TOWN instead of against Mafia. Somewhere instinctively I was worried more of getting lynched by the Town than being hit by Mafia, because I myself was just a plain townie with no special role, thus of little use as a target for mobsters.

Ace's early note regarding me might be pleasant to read, but was also the cause of my early downfall Ah well, I wanted to do so much more in this game - here's hoping I'll survive a bit longer to accomplish some of it in the next.

Oh, and reading that "defense" by Oz was absolutely hilarious, I literally LOL-ed at some places
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
August 06 2008 00:05 GMT
#6907
On August 06 2008 08:03 randombum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2008 00:57 Empyrean wrote:
Ace, you have no clue how much I wanted you guys to focus on randombum.

Too bad I died.


Oh yea, We agreed that I definitely needed to laugh at you for stealing your role and preventing you from getting BG protection.

So,

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA NO PARDONER FOR YOUS


While I, in turn always wanted to add, that Mafia never had the chance of putting you into Mayor seat tho. Up until the very last minute both Ace and I (who both voted for you at that time) were on standby to change our votes if need be. Add to that the fact that there's a miscalculation in your votes (there's a guy who voted on you who isn't even in the game) and you would have needed 6 more votes to get the mayoral seat. So a no-go for you guys, don't blame those 2 inactive mafias
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
August 06 2008 01:27 GMT
#6914
Anyone dare to press "All" in the page selection?
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
August 06 2008 20:52 GMT
#6923
On August 07 2008 05:16 HotZhot wrote:
So in the end I turned out to be mr.blonde...that's ironic, I seriously didn't know.

Anyway GG town, this one was closer and I'm proud I was the last one to fall. Hope you guys have fun on the next one.

Chuiu please replace me, GL to all (especially to mafia), getting a mafia role is just epic.


I basically had to wait THE WHOLE FUCKING GAME to be avenged.

Grrr.
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
October 23 2008 21:38 GMT
#6958
Yay, time for a Chuiu mafia game again! I'm excited
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