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On February 25 2008 02:36 Amber[LighT] wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2008 17:56 Live2Win wrote:
seriously who wants protection tonight If you really are a medic I would suggest protecting myself and try to get someone to protect you. I am also going to say protect Falcynn and Southlight. wait wtf? You think I might get hit tonight? I haven't done anything this day except just expanding on clues that people have already noted and pushing heavily to just lynch random people...
i dun wanna die T.T
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On February 25 2008 04:28 bumatlarge wrote:
IM A MAFIA!.... if i were playing cause townies are screwed. wait...what?
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I vote for Tracil
Tracil's been on my list for a while (not very high on my list, but on it nonetheless) and since at least one of the mayor candidates has to be mafia I figure it's probably smart to vote for him. Also as the days go by and us townies continue failing to lynch any mafia I'm just slowly losing interest and relying on my gut more...
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Damn, as soon as I decide I might just start giving up we finally get one...maybe I'm bad luck or something...
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On February 28 2008 05:49 imDerek wrote:
yes of course my Hamlet quote is related to swords
but you need to look closer to see who else actually HAS a sword
btw, that iiaaargh was said by a mafia so yah. wtf?
Chuiu looked up once again to see his executioner, "You're never going to be trusted iaaagh" the knife pierced his throat quickly, in seconds he was dead. who the hell stabs someone and goes "iaaarrggggh" obviously it was Chuiu who said that, hence why he stopped mid sentence to make that scream. I didn't really think much of it, but since you're defending yourself with lies I'm becoming incredibly suspicious of you now...
Edit: You could've easily defended yourself by saying something like "oh that clue could point to anyone whose name starts with an "i"" but the fact that you chose to defend yourself by just completely throwing out that possibility makes you seem very mafia-ish.
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On February 28 2008 07:50 Eti307 wrote:
Glad we finally got one!
With 5 mafias voting for Tracil, it highly drops the suspicions I had of him... but we don't know maybe he just planned that and the detective just fucked his plan up. How do we know that there were 5 mafia voting for Tracil? I'm not trying to say you're wrong it's just I haven't been as active as I used to be and I'm guessing I just missed something, but if this is true I'd like to see where you guys managed to at least assume this.
Edit: ah, found Alventine's post, nvm what I just said then.
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Also I have a feeling that probably all mafia are active since mafia's are the "special" team and they want to enjoy their priviledges. While all the truly inactive people are probably just people who are sore about the fact that they didn't get to be mafia and are "rebelling" against the game by not playing.
Edit: I mostly say this because in the beginning of the game I noticed a few guys who made comments along the lines of "oh damn I didn't get to be mafia, forget this" and because I'm still bitter about the brats I had to work with as a camp councilor when I was trying to organize any sort of game and they wouldn't stop whining about why they couldn't be on such and such side.
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On February 28 2008 11:46 to miss the mark wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2008 11:26 Fishball wrote:
Doesn't matter if there are inactive Mafias, because the Mafia as a "team" just send in a general hit list to Chuiu using their killing powers.
Which means Mafias doesn't have to be active to be useful, but just to be alive. it's true, i was probably more counterproductive than productive, so in theory you just helped out the mafia. 0-7 baby. What the fuck? Damn it, don't take this away from us!
1 and 6 ok?
ONE AND FUCKING SIX!!!!
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Jack sounds pretty damn awesome as well.
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On February 28 2008 13:53 randombum wrote:
Jack does seem powerful, but the fact that he can only use one skill at a time limits him. He will likely not be able to use all 6, and if he starts using his detective skill (perhaps the best) he will likely get murdered. Well you could use your detective skill, wait one day/night cycle, explain your findings to everyone then use the Veteran skill and hope that a paramedic saves you for insurance.
Or better yet use detective, wait one day/night then vigilante the asshole mafioso, and if you get it wrong...well then you just stfu and hope noone finds out.
Of course this will take a while, but that's probably what helps keep this class somewhat balanced.
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On February 29 2008 11:02 bumatlarge wrote:Show nested quote +On February 29 2008 09:16 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Mafia all agree on a list which one person sends to Chuiu.
Order people die depends on order in the list I think.
If the list is
1. bodyguard
2. bodyguard
3. bodyguard
4. bodyguard
5. mayor
The mayor dies, but if it's
1. bodyguard
2. bodyguard
3. mayor
4. bodyguard
5. bodyguard
He lives. Well a mafia man answered lol SIGN ME UP FOR NEXT GAME CHIU! I hope I'm a townie. If a t is clever enough, he can understand more than a detective. but if a detective is even slightly clever he'll probably know way more than any townie 
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Damn it, there's the fucking syringe again, who the hell can that be?
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Ok, after investigating the syringe clue (and I'm certain it's a clue considering the amount of times it's showed up) all I've managed to trace it to is randombum (because bum's shoot up heroine and shit(seriously doubt this)) and Live2Win (say yes to stim kids). The fact that Chuiu's put that clue up so many times, I"m starting to think that he's trying to tell us that L2W really is mafia despite his claims.
Edit; horrible grammar.
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On March 01 2008 01:09 Southlight wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2008 01:02 Live2Win wrote:I guess this means paramedics don't die when they protect someone  .... cuz I protected Alventine last night. Except Alventine died. So the protection didn't seem to work, which would imply that you're not Para, aye? Well it could just mean that more than one mafia went after him negating the paramedic protection. However that doesn't change the fact that the syringe clue seems to only point to him and that it's shown up so many times there's no doubt as to whether or not it's a clue.
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Then again the syringe itself might not be important and it's the experimenting that Chuiu's trying to reveal as a clue. So this could relate to Tracil (Probing...ok I just really think tracil's a mafia and I'm just digging everywhere for clues) but more importantly this might relate to Vharox (testing testing 123) as in all of the posts where someone was using a syringe it was because they were testing some sort of drug.
however don't let this take your guard down L2W...I'm still watching you o.o
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On March 01 2008 01:49 Fen wrote:
How long has it been since L2W announced that he was a paramedic? Hes managed to survive 2 nights even though the mafia know that he has a cruicial role? You would think that the mafia would go for a Blue before random greenies wouldnt you? Yeah, times like these I wish we still had double lynches
*looks at everyone who voted to lynch Fakesteve*
-.-
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Seriously, this is why we shouldn't have lynched Fakesteve. Previously I wanted a double lynch to get L2W and Vharox, but after L2W's latest comment I'm pretty much positive that either him or Tracil are mafia...
Edit: wait, but how the hell do you "accidentaly" pm Tracil? I mean you either had to type his name in the "To" box, or click the PM button next to his name. and considering that Chuiu's the first poster it'd seem to make more sense to just go to the first page and click the PM button there....
seriously...wtf?
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On March 01 2008 04:10 Live2Win wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2008 02:56 Fen wrote:
Ok, assuming Live2Win is mafia, lets look at the game.
- A reoccurring theme is that a mafia with a syringe is injecting people with a substance that seems like it is supposed to increase strength. It fits the description of a stim very well and the best fit is Live2Win's Sig.
- He gets in trouble and is about to be townie lynched. He looks at the list, realises that there are 4 paramedic positions still alive. Chances are, one is not playing and he can assume that role. His move pays off.
- After announcing to everyone that he is a paramedic, he is not attacked by the mafia. You would assume the mafia would want to take paramedics down as their power becomes greater as the townie numbers decrease.
- After becoming the medic that is supposed to watch over the townies most valuble asset, he "accidently" sends the PM to the wrong person and the detective dies.
This info is pretty solid against you Live2Win. I'm interested to hear your counterargument.
EDIT: only to make it more readable Recurring theme - I can understand how that can lead to me. I was hoping the suspicion would die down when TMTM died, but apparently he wasn't the one the clues were pointing to. As soon as I saw Day 5's clues, I knew people would mention me once again. Pretending to be Paramedic - Far too risky. Pretending to assume a position means you WILL be uncovered eventually. It puts a timeline on your life. If I was mafia, my goal would be to stay alive until the end. I wouldn't assume a role unless I knew I could live it out. Of course, both cases have no proof to back them up. - Not attacked by mafia - I'm actually baffled by this myself. I figured by night 2 I was going to be a gonner. My only guess is that another medic protected me. If that's the case, I'm screwed unless that person reveals himself. If no one protected me... then perhaps the mafia knew I would get lynched eventually, succesfully making the town waste a lynch on me. - Accident - This one should be easy to defend. What good do I get out from making up this "accident?" If I was mafia, pretending to be medic, why would I even send out a PM to anyone? PMing Chuiu would do no good, and sending a "fake PM" and then posting it would only make me look suspicious. What motive do I have to intentially bring the suspicion back to me? If I was mafia being a paramedic, all I have to do is say I'm protecting someone and pretend to do so. But to intentionally do things that would bring suspicion to myself? Does that make sense? If a paramedic saved you you'd be notified.
Paramedic - You have the ability to watch one other player during night, which you must tell me about before the end of night (preferably before night even starts). You may choose not to use this ability also. When a player is watched he cannot die unless the number of people attacking him outnumbers the number of people watching him. In other words if two mafia attack a person being watched by one paramedic, the person will die. A clue will not be left behind, the town won't know who was saved, but I will let the Paramedic know if he saved the person or not and let the person know if he was saved or not.
The fact that you apparently haven't looked at your role description more carefully either implies you are a mafia and are assuming the role of a medic...or you're just not a very good medic
So that still casts doubt as to why the mafia hasn't killed you. There is the possibility that they want to keep you alive knowing we'll probably lynch you due to the syringe clue...but still. I'm gonna hold my vote for a while until I can gain a firm position on this, don't want to end up changing my vote 2-3 times like I always do. Especially since as I mentioned that drug testing/syringe clue might also point to vharox.
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bah keep forgetting about that list
On February 28 2008 00:28 Alventenie wrote:
Tracil - 9
ZaplinG
Southlight
Fen
Falcynn
SiZ.FaNtAsY
zdd
imDerek
Unforgiven_ve
MyHeroNoob
ok so now four of the guys listed are mafia. So I'll try to look for any clues that may point to them. For now let's try to leave Live2Win and Tracil alone unless we fail to find any dirt on these guys.
Edit; yes I realize that I'm kind of putting myself up for lynch by doing this, but since I know I'm not mafia I hope you guys won't end up finding clues where there aren't any (looking at you Vharox ).
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If we try to find clues on the people in Alventenie's list, then we'll probably have a better chance of hitting mafia. I mean hell, if we just randomly pick someone from that list at this point it's a 50/50 chance. So while the clues against L2W seem obvious, let's also remember all the clues that led us to lynching townies and how obvious they seemed at the time. So even though I still suspect L2W, for now let's at least try to go by Alventenie's list. If not it'll kind of feel as though we just wasted a detective's life for nothing...
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