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And me and dmb live next to each other like zerg worker drones and it’s annoying | ||
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On May 28 2024 05:47 Trfel wrote: Hm, sorries  You'll be missed. Hope things improve soon.We can chat about it in discord if you want it‘s a very complex history that explains a lot about my development for the worse over the years. Suffice to say I‘ve been victim of numerous ‚grey area‘ attacks, which are easy to pull off in the country, until I snapped. Or maybe I‘m just paranoid, which is what I always get told often although I know some of what was done to me. Probably not everything. What I know for sure is that Austria used to be a place good for those born in it, and most of those are escaping if they can because this isn‘t functional law. No matter their origins. | ||
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Chez, what can you tell me about mannarah. | ||
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Lynch everyone with a beard | ||
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On June 07 2024 11:03 scott31337 wrote: I've never been in a Mason game before. I understand what it is, but what are the advantages for town on its usage? Seemingly harmless question with emphasis on trying to look useful. Scum-meter vibrates slightly. Oats with acceptable vibe so far. | ||
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On June 07 2024 11:22 scott31337 wrote: It was an honest question and Rayn answered what I was looking for. Maybe it was an honest question but it still made you sound like it‘s your first day at school. | ||
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On June 07 2024 11:35 rsoultin wrote: I like where your head's at Viva. Living your best life. I like the perks of having rejected responsibility for a long time. | ||
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Palmar is a typical alpha, he‘s quite enjoyable to be around in games but a pain in the ass to keep in car trunks. He needs a healthy beating now and then. | ||
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He‘s sort of complaining that I have a tr on Oats ig? That‘s really tragic. Mocsta, mate 🧉 In uprising against the oppression of the British as usual | ||
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On June 07 2024 16:44 Kelsi3r wrote: I enjoyed Alpha Zero pointing out that scott had basically answered his own question and giving it a red flag. I love shit like that. What does it say about scott? I don't know But rsoutlin also liked it so I guess I like Alpha and rsoultin at this early stage. Trefl and rayn were posting a lot and having a discussion, i've always been a sucker for activity = town . But ngl I didn't read a lot of the posts and sort of glazed over. That's an ok starting point. When filtering Kelsier this sticks out. He loves red flags, which means he‘s probably a commie, and since commies are red, he‘s mafia. | ||
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The only way the pros gaslight is with loud braps and a lighter. | ||
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I like the original argument on scott the most so far. Sometimes a question can be too generic and harmless on the surface. Kelsier‘s worst was the I love that shit part because of the hyperbole + nonchalant word mix having a sour taste together. | ||
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If you‘re going to look that convinced on someone why switch priorities so easily ? | ||
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I tend to keep some room for doubt in my own interpretation while you seemed very convinced. Doesn‘t look like you are based on the followup. Since I‘ll be working overnight, I‘ll give the game a read and place my vote. | ||
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On June 07 2024 12:57 scott31337 wrote: I think it's helping to drive discussion. I kind of get it, but, it really was a question for someone more experienced to give a point of view of how it helps. That's all I was looking for. I liked what you said and it made sense. I thought Alphazero was doing the red flags to call me scummy at first. This is a weak answer imo. I'm not a good judge of Scotts character imo but all of this is very weasel-y and evasive. His inner bully didn't awaken from being double prodded, so maybe it doesn*t exist altogether because it's something inherent to townies. If I got bombarded with red flags I'd be more inquisitive I think. | ||
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On June 08 2024 00:05 Oatsmaster wrote: Vivax mafia Only on my days off | ||
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I‘d be ok with him or Kelsier as of now. Willing to see what marv, rayn sandro cook up. | ||
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You‘re a townread. Probably that somehow bothers you because you don‘t want to be so easily read after the burn of last game so you prefer to act uncooperatively for shits and giggles. | ||
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On June 08 2024 00:14 AlphaZero wrote: 1.) Sandro has already cooked. 2.) what’s scummy about Kelsier? Kelsier's entire filter tbh On June 07 2024 20:39 Kelsi3r wrote: I find it strange i have to explain this again but fine. On my first read through i didnt even clock that scott has responded to himself but alpha caught it and my reaction was like "ah nice catch" , rsoultin had the same reaction as me. Felt like a good early brain sync . Give them an early town nod and move on. The first sentence of above post is terrible mindset-wise. The 'I love that shit' is terrible diligence-wise. | ||
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I‘m mostly at where marv is in places Slam DMB null. My fav pile to look into would be scott/Kelsier as previously stated but I‘d like to add rsoultin to the mix. | ||
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I‘d like to understand why he seemed so focused on rso in his first two posts. | ||
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On June 07 2024 17:05 Mocsta wrote: *filter starts* Hi On plane about to take off. I'm surprised by quant of posts and even more so that peoples essence is bringing back such strong memories. Pretty cool. Have skim read. Trfel stood out to me as sentiment over a few posts felt forced / overly processed. Not sure if that's his meta though. Certainly not a scum claim. Also felt a little similar with rsoultin. Followed by I‘m back to neutral but it‘s unclear how he‘s reading either of Trfel or rso and where from he reverted to neutral in his next post | ||
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Good time to go into early retirement away from Europe and this country of backstabbers I still keep secrets for. | ||
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I see a genuine effort and I like where his head is at. You don‘t ? | ||
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On June 08 2024 08:02 Oatsmaster wrote: ? Vivax just randomly calling posts town you think is good? Also him bring afraid to post is good? Also him not constantly seeing shadows? AZ calls you blanket top town too and it doesn‘t bother you. Doesn‘t surprise me you‘d miss that detail, so it‘s meh. | ||
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He has this passive aggressiveness about him and then we have AZ trying to fire him up in very obvious manipulation attempts that are almost comical in their obviousness but the best part is that they seem to work. Maybe he even believes that he doesn‘t live in a fascist oligarchy and that a red man brings him presents at christmas. | ||
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On June 07 2024 14:09 Trfel wrote: I think the whisperer mechanic favors skill most of all. It can be powerful or negligible for either alignment, honestly it just depends on how effectively it is used. It's possibly a little easier for town to get value from it, though. Has it been confirmed that AlphaZero is indeed a smurf? Or is our community so dead that we can't possibly have just gotten a new player? My sources say he‘s a pimp in south korea. He also pimps electronically. My sources are the voices in my head I don‘t have any tbh but it‘s better than calling them wild guesses. | ||
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On June 08 2024 11:18 rsoultin wrote: where are you at on the people who didn't vote to lynch you? I don‘t know yet I‘m currently reviewing this game and submitting my posts to an ethics commission to be approved. | ||
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On June 07 2024 20:11 Mocsta wrote: You have my vote now ##vote: kelsi3r For being intentionally obtuse . This shouldn't be this hard mate Ah yes this is a vote that makes Mocsta mafia imo. Town points if you see what I see. | ||
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On June 08 2024 11:53 Oatsmaster wrote: Fuckin bizzaro game where it’s not good to explain reads and it’s not good to talk about players in the game and things reasonably inferred are somehow invalid It takes a fortune teller to figure out what the fuck you are ranting about. Go read Mocsta and put on your columbo costume | ||
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On June 08 2024 12:23 Oatsmaster wrote: Mocsta has been bad so far but I don’t think it makes him scum. One thing I found particularly interesting is that he hasn’t engaged with Scott or vivax at all in his filter You can literally read his first eight posts and spot something that at the very least would likely make him mafia. | ||
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It‘s not fun if I explain it I dropped the cues. Maybe someone else is more willing ? I will explain but not immediately | ||
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On June 08 2024 20:33 Mocsta wrote: I can follow your progression so it's valid just wrong unfortunately. I have enjoyed the vibe the past page even though it's about me. Exclude me fine but it all feels townie including alpha. I will respond to alpha once I finish date night so sometime before cycle. Just not now. One caveat I will add which unfortunately doesn't help anyone is.. my reads are highly volatile and my language is much looser than how others would.use the same phrases. I totally get why alpha says I justify conclusions. In my mind I haven't concluded anything it's just the..peak of my snapshot at that point. Is what it is. Would.like to be different and personally after 6years from this game.im.surprised.myself to see that come.out. I think I'm going to have to commit to a full re read which I really dont want to do but if alpha is actually town I want to remove that bias Right now. If you ask me who to lymch. My strongest inclination is to sheep onto something that I can relate to which i havent yet seen but am.expecting between now and end of cycle. I reckon this will push you more scum into me but again is what it is. Let me just say that this is also pretty meh. Mocsta imo is struggling to form believable reads. I have sympathy for keeping you around on D1 but only cause you don‘t play that often. But then I‘d also want you to be clear in who to lynch instead. Show us who is keeping you lost and shaking in the scum qt. | ||
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On June 08 2024 11:38 Vivax wrote: Ah yes this is a vote that makes Mocsta mafia imo. Town points if you see what I see. His previous read on rsoultin was that he reverted to neutral but when he votes Kelsier it‘s because he expected him to easily see what made her scum after he stopped scumreading her. That‘s not only scummy in itself but implies also rsoultin or Kelsier as teammates if Mocsta is. But that‘s associative so meh. | ||
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On June 08 2024 21:43 AlphaZero wrote: Since when do you shy away from associative reads . That’s like your bag, your house and your 401k I‘ve got wise as they say. Sounds like something iamperfection would say. I‘m evaluating a dmb lynch, got work in an hour. I don‘t know what the fuck rayn is doing, maybe he got masoned and is writing smut with marv in there. | ||
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On June 08 2024 22:03 Trfel wrote: Starting on p10 Kelsi3r: AlphaZero has a good point about scott31337, not sure what it means about scott31337 but it makes AlphaZero and rsoultin look good Mocsta: Asks Kelsi3r why the read on rsoultin matters with regards to AlphaZero, to be honest I don't know what this means Kelsi3r: it's up to you why my read matters Mocsta: you mentioned rsoultin affecting your read on AlphaZero (again idk what he is saying) Kelsi3r: what don't you understand? Mocsta: why isn't rsoultin mafia? Kelsi3r: why is rsoultin mafia? Mocsta: votes for Kelsi3r I really don't think Mocsta is saying that rsoultin is mafia, rather, he is asking why Kelsi3r said rsoultin is towny. Huge difference. I can see what you mean. Maybe you‘re right and I misinterpreted. In which case I‘ll adjust vote to either Kelsier or Scott. But leaning Kelsier. I don‘t have strong convictions otherwise. | ||
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Kelsier doesn‘t try hard to look good so that‘s a plus on his side too. And I remain faithful to the early hunch | ||
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On June 08 2024 22:37 Trfel wrote: Sure thing. Honestly I'm surprised you are considering lynching die_meatbaby, you think she is mafia I assume? No I think she‘s nothingburger. Didn‘t like the part where she felt excluded by rsoultin but that‘s it | ||
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Maybe I'm getting reverse psych'd again but it's just too nonchalant for me. | ||
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On June 08 2024 08:29 scott31337 wrote: I've read the thread but I've had a long day at work as well, so am a bit tired. I searched my name in Alpha's filter - 20 times at the moment And if you have been paying attention - keeps calling me scummy. I search for Vivax - 20 hours ago The rest is quotes from Vivax or others saying his name. A post an hour ago Vivax I think is not consistently giving me good reasons to town read him And now he votes for him. But AZ has been calling me scummy all game so far. Seems suspicious to me. The timing of this post was a bit suspicious because AZ and Oats were going at me at the time so it might have led me to be pocketed by Scott playing devil's advocate. I don't feel like this is going to be an easy game. | ||
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On June 08 2024 00:06 sandroba wrote: Basically if the initial question wasn't fake, definitely what rayn answered is not enough to address the question. If it is fake you are either doing it to create discussion and you don't really care about it, or you are trying to blend in not create discussion. If you intension is the former which could be a townie agenda, you wouldn't try to cut it short when you got the discussion going, which was what scott did. It makes more sense it was the latter which points to mafia agenda. On June 08 2024 06:01 sandroba wrote: Rayn on rsoul: I had similar thoughts to her from reading the initial pages and had a town lean. Her random call out on me seems contrived because she herself does not comment on anything else besides accusing me of lack of commentary. If she really believes I missed something important or more telling than the stuff on scott I would expect she would have commented on that when re-entering the thread. She is in the null pile on kelsier his dismissive attitude towards mocsta's post and not making an effort to understand where he was coming from was totally carefree, it felt really townie Scummy points to rsoultin. Don't look at me I'm just a hat. | ||
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On June 08 2024 23:48 Mocsta wrote: blatantly false Kelsier was intentionally avoiding answering my questions so I phrases in opposite direction Should be bleeding obvious comparing the sequence of posts I don't like this push br0 It's ok br0 Trfel already clarifi3d | ||
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On June 08 2024 23:56 Mocsta wrote: yeah saw after I still.dont see how you misinterpreted to begin with..dont believe this is day1 worthy though I already struggled to see your progression on the rsoultin read so it was actually really easy for me to spot you seemingly voting Kelsier for not scumreading her which was my original interpretation. | ||
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On June 09 2024 00:07 Oatsmaster wrote: ##unvote I’ll let vivax play Thanks. I'm already living in bozo country, so I assume you're applying for a passport. | ||
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Marv this is what he had to say about you. He ridiculed my townread on you this is outrageous | ||
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Monologuing herself out of having to push something in perpetuum. | ||
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Yeah. I lowkey think Trfel and rayn are trying to help her be less obvious lol. Or maybe I'm just overconfident. | ||
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It‘d be of help to me if you could be a bit more decisive on the scott vs kelsier debate | ||
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Could you briefly put into words what you think of the two. And why Kelsier is the better choice when he isn‘t trying to hide his awfulness. | ||
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On June 09 2024 01:52 rsoultin wrote: i literally voted kelsier because i don't think scott's mafia and i think kelsier's the next best chance to flip scum after sandy idk what debate you think i'm not weighing in on? did i miss some case talking about the same people again that significantly changes the landscape of the game or you just haven't read my posts? That‘s fine as answer. I just don‘t get the sandro bit but we‘ll see how that evolves. | ||
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On June 08 2024 08:06 Mocsta wrote: well said mofo - hat is my sentiment precisely . Rayn rsoultin read is also different as it's a meta read based on direct experience. Also I interpreted marv read me as townie lol! Well said mofo lmfao what is this reply. Is that what mate autocorrects to in Australia these days. | ||
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It's not sexist when he's a femboy | ||
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Gonna put Oats on ignore now I realize he‘s just here to be a fun killer and manipulate me with shit like that. God that infuriates me. | ||
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On June 09 2024 03:34 Oatsmaster wrote: I’m the fun killer??? Yeah you start bringing sexism into the game because I use the English language I am used to. Man up is common. And you do so selectively. You don‘t complain about anyone being called a mofo either. You‘re some dude who thinks he should infitrate games to sabotage a single person evidently. Regardless of his alignment. | ||
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Yeah woosh thanks for ruining the mood. Now I can't even go on with the rayn prodding because you just had to go out and dig around in your box of -isms. | ||
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On June 09 2024 04:08 Oatsmaster wrote: That sounds like a you problem No that sounds like you can't distinguish between jokes in good and jokes in bad faith. I don't see yours as being made in good faith. | ||
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I'm glad about that. I get PTSD when I'm alone with Oats just casually dropping those remarks though. | ||
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Purely because I'd still take the mafia who's trying over the town who isn't. But I haven't made my mind up about it and would like some more time. | ||
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On June 07 2024 12:50 scott31337 wrote: Scumslip See you already know I'm "pretending" to be mafia. I already know I'm town. Do you see me driving discussion? I've been looking since 10pm. Was this scumslip thing serious? | ||
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On June 08 2024 04:00 Kelsi3r wrote: cant hate the amount of effort you put into this This implies that he thought he should have had a reason to hate Trfel in the first place but Trfel is voting him so meh. Maybe other reasons than alignment. It's like reading through someone slightly cooked. | ||
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On June 09 2024 06:10 die_meatbaby wrote: Sorry, I'll have more time tomorrow and will play properly. Besides, I'm not so happy with both wagons. Put out someone or maybe even a few you're willing to lynch instead otherwise this isn't productive. | ||
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On June 08 2024 05:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: probably first good post from you, keep up!  There's something comical in here I haven't quite decided what. Maybe add Oats voting him now but iirc Oats was one of my 'inane townreads'. | ||
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On June 09 2024 07:03 Mocsta wrote: I'm becoming more and more open to lynch outside kelsier He doesn't looked bullied out to me as his tone is pretty consistent start to finish I still think his tone specifically to me is more unhelpful mafia than town, however the nonchalantness is somewhat consistent even after which I am.imcreasingly.viewing as townie ... I really don't want to vote Scott for mason stuff Is there a case outside of that? .... Rsoultin I will give sandroba a read I think the opposite the less Kelsier does the more I want to lynch him. Feels like a weird defense here if you don‘t have a particularly strong conviction outside of that. | ||
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On June 07 2024 23:03 sandroba wrote: Trfel so far seems overly friendly and lighthearted in his tone, and employing an overuse of smiley faces which should definitely be criminalized in this town. It's different from the past 2 games we played where he was town. This seems silly on a reread. Makes me feel bad for pestering rsoultin maybe she‘s onto something. Also makes me feel better about a switch to Kelsier | ||
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Them pitting Oats against me was a bit dickish tho | ||
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On June 08 2024 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: wait how do you get town vibes from Kelsier in his Mocsta interaction? This is a legitimate question so my vote on rayn remains just posturing. I just wanted him to be around more. | ||
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On June 09 2024 07:46 scott31337 wrote: If you do this, He's going to want to lynch me and I'll flip town. Only if you lynch him D2 is this a suitable outcome. There‘s people I think are around but just choosing not to post. Mocsta and him would be my guess. I‘m moving to Kelsier. He doesn‘t appear motivated anyway. | ||
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Missed you tbh. I also know you have a decent scumgame. I‘ve been fucked almost every single time I thought someone was too scummy to be scum so Kelsier is an okay lynch. | ||
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On June 09 2024 08:09 Trfel wrote: I actually think the Alakaslam self conscious thing is a legit reason. Maybe it's stupid, I know it's unproven, but it's at least a theory I consider worth investigating. Also I think having more time/material with which to read sandroba would benefit me, and I can't say the same for Alakaslam. Side note, I am kinda getting hesitant about the Kelsi3r lynch, especially seeing that Grackaroni is looking for a replacement. If something happened to Kelsi3r forcing him to replace out at the wrong time, I can see that making him look really suspicious but actually being town. But even the Kelsi3r thing with doubts seems better to me than the other options right now. Will keep thinking about it. That‘s very considerate of you but would also overcomplicate the game if enacted. That‘s why we don‘t talk about replacements. Just ride imo | ||
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On June 09 2024 08:16 rsoultin wrote: i'd also be very, very surprised if there wasn't scum between sandy, kelsier and scott. i know that surprises literally no one but still It‘s tough when the nonvoters + sandro seem to be mia at the same time. Sandro‘s thought process that I quoted would be hard to fake though. It‘s always a bit complicated tho | ||
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On June 09 2024 08:30 AlphaZero wrote: This is terrible reasoning. Let’s not lynch scum because it tells us nothing. You would take that every time day one given the chance. And do you think he‘s scum? Hard to say for me with the low input. Rayn seemed to think he was town. | ||
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On June 09 2024 08:36 AlphaZero wrote: I’m not commenting on that. I’m commenting on the reasoning which was off. Yeah and blarantly so. But it‘s meaningless if you don‘t post it with the intention of turning it into action. You either want to call rsoultin or Slam mafia afterwards otherwise it was just a waste of energy. And you don‘t want to look like that‘s your purpose for the tame. | ||
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On June 09 2024 08:41 die_meatbaby wrote: Tbr i would like to lynch az. Also I hate the first lynch after it it always gets easier. Most of the time lynch 1 is misslynch anway. I am stucking at work with a group of austrian mafia, good that tomorrow they are gone. Scott i don't really townread you but for now I don't want to lynch, I rather take K who is more inactiv and I think it would be a more logical lynch. I am really sorry for beeing this inactiv today. Tomorrow I will be here ##vote k Townie post :-) Az and Oats just dropped a lot in my book. But that‘s for another day | ||
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Kelsier might have given up as either alignment. | ||
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On June 09 2024 08:47 Mocsta wrote: town can also not want to be mislynched.. is this 'effort'notion a scott meta thing? The point is that aside from his list, he hasn‘t posted anything that would look like sudden forced effort. I got the opposite vibe from az as of late. | ||
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On June 09 2024 09:16 AlphaZero wrote: You fail to understand the difference in context . I only need to make an effort because I I care about the lynch. In my opinion you pulled off the leader card very effectively in the beginning but you're losing steam. I don*t necessarily think you're paired with Kelsier even moreso if the dichotomy Scott-Kels is TvT, then you have all the more reason to drop off over time as neither outcome affects your survival if that's the case. What stuck out to me is your indifference towards absent players when your self proclaimed interest into finding the correct lynch requires their presence. | ||
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On June 09 2024 09:22 AlphaZero wrote: What do you want me to do about that. I’m not into lynching a lurker day one. He‘s not a lurker ? He leaves enough room for interpretation, it comes down to whether you belive that mafia acts like mafia. Leaving those alive makes it very hard to pursue their lynch at a later time so if we‘re going to lynch him, we have to do it now. | ||
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On June 09 2024 09:29 scott31337 wrote: AZ is not the lynch today unless everyone expands their mind. So forgive me for not spending the energy nested into such. But he's my #2 still - so help me out - maybe I missed a point of yours. Excuse me but what do you mean by the bolded. | ||
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On June 09 2024 09:19 scott31337 wrote: I favor Oats more than the last magical time you are making up. That's a change of read. Rsoul is a little higher on my list as well. Trfel isn't going to change much today unless he does something stupid. What's there to change on DMB,sandroba, and Alakaslam? They haven't posted. Marv isn't coming back tonight from his word. Kelsi3r - nuff said Mocsta - I still town read him even if he gets junk from other people. Is still thinking reasonable, unlike yourself. Vivax - I wouldn't lynch today either. Yes. I'm town. But that doesn't answer the question. If you're so convinced we should lynch AZ which I suppose you are by saying that the mind of town is closed, why isn't he in the list ? | ||
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On June 09 2024 09:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: ##vote Kelsi3r This was a ninja btw. I voted scott again based on what I think is a recent bad blunder. + Show Spoiler + And I also think I know who tried to impersonate me, and probably made me appear worse than I was. But that‘s game unrelated. Sucks for them when I decided to not make them want to be me | ||
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On June 09 2024 10:10 rsoultin wrote: i don't want to vote with sandy can i get a sandy shenany? You don‘t see what‘s wrong with the open mind thing ? Take your time though you‘re probably busy (: | ||
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On June 09 2024 09:43 Vivax wrote: Yes. I'm town. But that doesn't answer the question. If you're so convinced we should lynch AZ which I suppose you are by saying that the mind of town is closed, why isn't he in the list ? Still not answered unless I missed something. Are you scotty ? And Kelsier is…What was his name… | ||
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Getting old when there‘s less competition than ten years ago sucks doubly. For usefulness, I think everyone should vote Scott cause he saw AZ mafia out of nowhere. | ||
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On June 09 2024 10:32 marvellosity wrote: A bookie just told me we are 100-1 to lynch mafia today regardless who gets lynched. Charming. Oh wow bookies in game. Gonna call my insurance agent and go live in the woods bubai. | ||
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On June 09 2024 10:40 Mocsta wrote: hes tried i genuinely dont think thats a fair assessment. At most he‘s been berating the approach of a bunch of town imo. Him ponting out the rsoultin part doesn‘t help anyone in getting Scott lynched. If you want to be convincing you have to speak directly. Not walk past people and ramble (I‘m a bit of a hypocrite on this one cause I may have too much faith in them listening) | ||
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People like that don‘t get distracted. | ||
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On June 09 2024 10:48 scott31337 wrote: cw=counterwagon I guess? ce=? ce is cw but with a typo | ||
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On June 09 2024 10:52 AlphaZero wrote: I’m distracted by real life . I am smurfing cause I wanted to be low effort and still be able to play. I explained why Scott is the best lynch. It’s also on the other townies to come to that realisation like Mocsta and you did. Fair. My best guess rn would be that you‘re Hapa. | ||
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Jat isn‘t the type to say too slow work faster imo | ||
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On June 09 2024 10:58 scott31337 wrote: I really want you to be town and I need a town friend tomorrow - Are you? I think you should be at -1, fakeclaim a blue role to be safe and then explain why you‘re so confident you both would be alive tomorrow to be town friends. Excuse my bluntness. I still cling to the hope one can find mafia on D1 and excees statistics. Tbh I almost wrote you off until the open mind part. | ||
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On June 09 2024 11:39 marvellosity wrote: If I take the worldview that Scott is town, then the case almost makes itself Scott being scum wouldn’t exclude rsoul being scum, how do you get to think that ? | ||
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On June 09 2024 11:54 marvellosity wrote: ??? No it wouldn’t, but it’s not the current world view I am exploring It looked a bit like she was burying me whenI pointed out that Scott thought that a AZ scumread should almost be a dogma. She didn‘t mind either. If Scott gave up on pushing him at least he should be equally strong on his counterwagon but in practice he‘ll be biases on the CW no matter his alignment. I‘m more wary of another category. Might talk about it another time. | ||
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Doesn‘t have to be a bad thing but it means we look for 2-3 outside of him. | ||
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On June 09 2024 12:09 die_meatbaby wrote: how about giving a look on ninja rayn or az Az lookedlike he was posting forcibly around EoD, rayn didn‘t make himself readable. Townies can have reasons to refuse to be readable. To be honest everyone has good reason to refuse to be readable. I‘d guess the masons of the day were rayn and Trfel. The flip doesn‘t automatically make Scott more scummy, if you were town in his situation you‘d understand why, so look at those who think so. | ||
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On June 09 2024 12:18 Mocsta wrote: help me out, im being dumb dumb the only reason i can see is this from marv https://tl.net/forum/mafia/625928-sweet-summer-mafia?page=66#1302 like.. why cant mafia have wagoned kelsier to save scott equally? i get in marv of rsoultin, he is expecting the most likely answer is double-town wagon; yet, why cannot it not be an effort to save scott equally? It‘s beneficial to take sides as mafia here. Or maybe look undecided. They only have two buffets to choose from and don‘t have to be active so there‘s zero downside to being active, preferrably on the side of the one who‘s going to remain unflipped. Without accounting for players who are time constrained or just don‘t care enough. | ||
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On June 09 2024 12:32 Mocsta wrote: i see which feeds into my ongoing concerns with how the kelsi3r train was building i dont want to blanket discard how d1 unfolded for you; heuristically for me, its really hard to not acknowledge the complexities of having 1/3 of town to barely post for the 24hrs before lynch. it makes it hard for me to then follow your interpretation. i am in agreement with the other post that there should be options outside of scott tomorrow though. Right ? Wouldn‘t make much sense after a majority decided to spare him. My next favourite would be the rsoultin slot because theirs was one of the deciding votes. Not necessarily to lynch but definitely to consider. | ||
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Make him addicted to hookers and drugs and the usual. Lowers the price. Might do it for free. | ||
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If it isn‘t obvious to you then you must be engaged in hate speech. | ||
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I‘ve been waiting to make a statement for over 20 years now and the fools around here still shit their pants about it but all they’ve done being ignorant chickens about it who aren’t interested into knowing about the origin of one’s actions is to serve me more fuel to attest to the villainy of this government. All Austria will ever care about is to extort money from its citizens in a system that‘s so driven by nepotism that even the Italian mafia would turn green out of jealousy. | ||
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On June 09 2024 12:56 Oatsmaster wrote: You were wrong about the mocsta thing lmao you have no room I have a room. That‘s precisely my problem. It should be more than that but it isn‘t. Because the country is run by morons and crooks. Money is all that matters nowadays. Bur you don‘t get rights for money here. You just get responsibilities and chicanery. | ||
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It was my attempt to get back at Oats calling me sexist. Consider it a parody. Apparently women’s rights around here are so progressive that they can consider you a consenting adult at the age of 13 . Oh whoops, did I just punch the judge in the face ? | ||
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t stop myself from despising those who call themselves healers and helpers. Power is all they wanted, sticking their fake competence in my face, while all the had were names and connections and birthright, ready to spit in your face because your name didn’t sound as German as theirs | ||
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For that purpose, they won’t shy away from funding separatists who act holier than thy in neighbouring countries. They’ll tell you they are honest. criminals? They say. Fuck off and keep lying to yourselves, I say. A bald head no king maketh. | ||
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If they found a bag in your home, you were fucked. Meanwhile they wouldn‘t bat an eye at the guy next door because he owned a corporation and was responsible for raking in millions. Some of those millions would be drug money of course but as a good for nothing cop in Austria all I‘d care about would be a few empty bags of a depressive guy over the tons an elite mogul would be shipping in over the years to fill his filthy pocketa he should best drown on. Or maybe a piece of shit real estate agent with blood ties to the local police, who doesn‘t have scruples to extort people out of the ‚rubles‘ they so necessarily require, while a few kilometers away, a drug lord sets sail with the blessings or crooked police and no consequences to fear whatsoever. | ||
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Austrian bozo police force extorting money from aliens who likely had to fight more for their own survival than said adult toddler larpera ever did. I’d still not be lifting a finger like a certain parent while I parasitically live off relatives under the guise of perpetual disease and victimhood. | ||
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Could be parents, could be this shit ass government Never ever stay loyal to a government of clowns that does its people injustice for money | ||
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On June 09 2024 13:57 Trfel wrote: Vivax, unfortunately I'm not really in a position to be knowledgeable about European politics. Got any thoughts on who is mafia? Or should I come back another time? I‘m in drunk rant mode. I have luggage. And while I do, I don‘t owe any of these krauts anything. But that’s not your issue. | ||
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I’ll gladly stuff it into the fauces of those who thought to exploit me during my period of biggest weakness. With blackmail and extortion. Fuck me I guess I am not related to Austrian apparataschicks. Fuck me I guess I have to pay for criminal government to do a service to me but they still won’t. | ||
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What a negative example of a human being. Loweat tier. | ||
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On June 09 2024 14:24 Koshi wrote: lol mafia just settled the 2 town wagons quickly and fucked off. This is something only town says. Fuck Austria and fuck the rednecks as well. But Koshi town anyways | ||
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The age of consent here is 13 | ||
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Felix Austria Country of robbers | ||
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On June 09 2024 14:38 scott31337 wrote: When you lay out this much truth you will be shot tonight. So lay it all out before you are dead. At least he’d have died for something. Imagine someone’s last words being fuck this piece of shit greedy and human research rights violating chauvinist country of stupid wannabe corrupt narcos country. That must’ve been something. Or maybe it’s just failed Europe | ||
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On June 09 2024 14:49 Koshi wrote: Vivax, you should accept that we live in a simulation. Most of us are vessals for beings that need to learn the emotions that we feel. Just accept that and let them learn while you enjoy yor life. Soothe my rage then because it is proprtion to its growth. Which means it isn’t working as intended | ||
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On June 09 2024 14:56 Vivax wrote: Soothe my rage then because it is proprtion to its growth. Which means it isn’t working as intended At least if I lived in Nk, they’d let you know it‘s Nk. When you‘re in shit ass redneck Austria, you‘ll have to figure it out | ||
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I‘d like a doc on marv. I‘d like rayn to play the game. I love GabeN | ||
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On June 10 2024 00:14 Trfel wrote: Is scott31337 mafia still? I think so. Don‘t understand his post about AZ if he isn‘t. | ||
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That‘s ultimately what it comes down to. We‘re eliminating players we think are faking their effort. I‘m on the lookout for stuff that comes across as forced and I don‘t see it in her. | ||
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On June 10 2024 01:05 marvellosity wrote: There’s no effort to fake, so that tracks… Seems like honest slacking to me. I think she‘d try harder to look useful as scum. Gonna play some games then do some legwork. | ||
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On June 10 2024 01:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: Does your filter fill me in with the fact that Kelsier is dead and not scott, since that's my concern? I mean you two are imo the most likely people to get your message through to other people in this game. Are you not concerned why it was not enough? I hate this mindset. First of all you voted Kelsier and sneakily at that and second you‘re complaining that someone didn‘t do enough to get the person lynched that wasn‘t even your own favourite choice. What is this? | ||
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On June 10 2024 02:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: This has nothing to do what i did. I know why i did what i did. I am simply just asking marv, why he thinks people who are most likely getting their message across didnt get it across. If you dont get that, i cant help you get that better, sorry. Failing to meet your expectations doesn‘t make him mafia. | ||
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On June 10 2024 02:29 Koshi wrote: Just kill sandroba mocsta and then figure out the rest. Marv is talking way too much. Maybe third is dmb or so. I havent read anything from ger. I‘m assuming you have a tr on scott then. | ||
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On June 10 2024 02:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: If he is mafia he is mafia just because he has a townread on me, from all the people in the game i would not expect him to have one. This is a good post. | ||
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Thanks that briefly distracted me from my internal screaming and a crippling ulcer | ||
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It‘s like he intends to not abandon the plot laid out for him | ||
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On June 10 2024 03:51 Koshi wrote: True story. I have not read her filter. Like I told you. This life is a simulation. All life originates from crap that doesn‘t even make sense. But this isn‘t the time for philosophy, this is the time for educated murdering. | ||
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Mostly because I have the high expectation that he should be able to correctly read me. Definitely some omgus. But also because he comes across as detached here. | ||
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He just drew my ire | ||
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Gah I think I should just focus on scott. I wanna see how AZ intends to get him launched tho | ||
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On June 10 2024 04:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: now for real sauna, vivax why arent you angry at me i didnt include you to the bunch of people i did make a bunch of? I‘m good when I don‘t get bunched. You can think whatevs you want as long as it‘s townie. Two pizzas 30€ this place is more expensive than bora bora | ||
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On June 10 2024 04:47 Koshi wrote: 1) In the nested quote you see him playfully attacking Tfrel. Which is difficult to do as mafia. It has a good balance between get off me, + applying pressure to Tfrel to gauge a reaction. 2) Seeing the scumslip here is more likely to come from town reading and interpreting things to a maximum. As mafia things like this are way harder to do on the fly, if one is really good at playing mafia maybe it is possible, but the last part "I know I am town" is an unnecessarily lie at the end to make as mafia. I can't even explain properly why he added it at the end, but I think he tries to be witty with the truth but butchers the joke a bit. 3) He overestimates his own contributions to the thread but again, I can see a townie scott believing he is driving the town into victory more than a mafia scott bluffing. (I will quote some more but this analysis should be teached at schools.) Ah yes microanalysis and overexplaining. It‘s like using a microscope to find a germ while you‘re standing in a puddle of sewage water. | ||
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On June 10 2024 04:59 die_meatbaby wrote: would love to go there finland, norway. I used to love iceland but since I got to know Palmar I don´t want to go there anymore He‘s the chieftain of the island. A very bloodthirsty and savage man I have heard. He wears the skulls of his enemies | ||
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More likely than you think. This place ruined us. | ||
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He‘s the hypno-buddha in the flesh | ||
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Scott - But he should be able to catch a breath and do his thing for a while. Az - There‘s something off with him. Post timing, involvement, tone. Everything. It just doesn‘t feel like he has town‘s best interests at heart. Mocsta - Heavy heartedly. I think he could be scum. I didn‘t like how quickly he wanted scott on the table after the flip. I think he had a rush of sorts as usual for mafia around flip. Oats - He‘s somehow connected to AZ and I just can‘t deal with what appear to be his opinions. On the other hand he annoys me so much that it might be intentional so it‘s more of a fu-read than a scumread. | ||
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Hard to say but it‘s intuition. Feels like you follow a common agenda at times | ||
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On June 10 2024 05:31 die_meatbaby wrote: fewer and fewer town points for you. Maybe I have to reread you filter. you are paranoid about RL but not about the game. Thats kinda strange. I don´t like that Excuse me but how does that post cost me town points ? | ||
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On June 10 2024 05:35 die_meatbaby wrote: it´s not about this post it´s in general like you are not paranoid enough about the game. Pretty narcissist thing to say I‘m not insane enough for you. | ||
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I will be voting her on policy tomorrow because I know it‘s in her nature to antagonize me | ||
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On June 10 2024 05:41 die_meatbaby wrote: not insane enough in the game. more passion pls. more paranoia pls. more game solving pls. Did I really fucking read you wrong? Maybe I should not always be so sure about your first impression in the game. Just because I know you in rl and I always thought it would be easier to read you first, doesn´t mean I should do this.... No I think you are reading me off bullshit. And I think it‘s fair if I want to lynch you for not showing loyalty. | ||
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On June 10 2024 05:48 die_meatbaby wrote: show me why I should trust you, because I am seeing less reasons for it Show me why you‘re obsessed with being anti-me. You‘re a greenhorn here, act like one instead of just ignoring thread consensus and telling me I should doubt myself more. | ||
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On June 10 2024 05:55 die_meatbaby wrote: then show me your green ass because I can´t see it anymore, but I want. I am lost and I need help and nobody is here who I can trust. I have to fucking many scumreads in my head and I just don´t see you as townisch as I did in the start of the game. Was it fake? Did you fake the start? why are playing like this right now? I want you to be green but pls help me to see it. I‘ll show you my green ass cause tomorrow the hulk might policy you outta here and back into the mafia classroom | ||
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On June 10 2024 05:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: Vivax? Your opinion? I can vote her on policy. As for the personality I think it‘s glaringly obvious | ||
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On June 10 2024 06:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: On policy? That doesnt matter that she lied? Sometimes it isn‘t lies, but people actually creating memories out of thin air to fit the narrative, but unconsciously so | ||
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An antagonist, but I couldn‘t call her slamdunk mafia | ||
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On June 10 2024 06:03 Vivax wrote: Sometimes it isn‘t lies, but people actually creating memories out of thin air to fit the narrative, but unconsciously so So called true lies | ||
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I think it‘s within her capacity | ||
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On June 10 2024 06:07 die_meatbaby wrote: Days go by so does the reads on people He started good, now he playing strange. Where the fuck is the problem here Where do i begin to be paranoid enough for you ? | ||
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On June 10 2024 06:12 die_meatbaby wrote: A green vivax would not need to ask that That type of reply won‘t work here. If you want your assessment of me to look reasonable you need to explain the metric behind it. | ||
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On June 10 2024 06:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: do vivax and dmb think each other is mafia? It isn‘t always about alignment sometimes it‘s personalities we‘re dealing with. Or disorders. Once you get past that you can look at the alignment. | ||
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I told you she‘s on a tier with Oats. She struggles too much in cooperating with me. It‘s like it‘s a mental block of hers. She will never be on my side in games we‘re in together. That‘s just who she is. | ||
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Ah yes when you got lynched because you couldn‘t vote to save Palmar with me… | ||
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On June 10 2024 06:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: also what is the tier of Oats? Dude it‘s on the last two pages or so. I‘m not going to quote that now. | ||
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On June 10 2024 06:34 die_meatbaby wrote: Because i voted on actuall mafia... dp You didn't believe me See what I mean ? I was voting DP but she leaves it out to make it fit the narrative. It‘s not something that makes her mafia it‘s just how her mind works so you need to read her differently. | ||
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On June 10 2024 06:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: Vivax who do you think is mafia ? … I was under the impression you were done reading | ||
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On June 10 2024 06:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: yeah, what has my question to do with it? Az, scott mocsta Maybe but big maybe sandro In that order. And I hate that I have to put Mocsta in there | ||
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Now that I think of it I forgot Slam is in the game. Rayn do you still believe Slam is town ? He‘s a bit quiet for his standards. | ||
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On June 10 2024 02:53 Alakaslam wrote: You looked like you had tmi on me being town. Why would you be upset with a mafia suspect being as shittily absent as I have been? So I assumed you knew I was town. Only one way to know (as a player) that an unflipped player is town This is meh | ||
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Like, read what he said and tell me how that makes any sense. Marv upset about him being an absent mafia suspect means he has tmi on Slam being town? Le wat ? | ||
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You‘re gloomy br0. Can I cheer you up ? | ||
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Thinking he‘s mafia is alright but wouldn‘t want him to hate playing the game. I like the effort. Seeing AZ on the defensive would be some fresh air. | ||
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On June 10 2024 07:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: Vivax go with me on sandroba, mocsta, az, ok? Ok give me a moment to take my clothes off | ||
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Ah yes I have to mark it as joke for correctness | ||
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On June 10 2024 07:55 Mocsta wrote: yeah yeah all this is a setup to say I'm playing very bad when town Hopefully see you on d2 If Koshi dies and you‘re mafia you win an Oscar for that last part | ||
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On June 10 2024 08:23 Oatsmaster wrote: I really don’t like this post tbh, he comes back to the thread and just randomly quips this when a million other things have substantially happened I agree with you for a change. What tefel posts makes me think he got the wrong shrooms on his pizza lately | ||
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On June 10 2024 08:27 Mocsta wrote: 👍 I don't care if people want to call me scum It's the pairing of me and az or me and marv that's ridiculous Haven't posted on other substantial stuff because as you have pointed out, it's substantial You are doing the same thing btw but I still love ya Eh thing to say especially the combination. | ||
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On June 10 2024 08:39 AlphaZero wrote: I also don’t understand how vivax can think I’m paired with Mocsta and Scott. Guess I‘m paranoid enough to get rid of this stupid argument that I‘m not paranoid enough then. What kind of person needs another to act crazy to be able to believe them ? | ||
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On June 10 2024 08:46 AlphaZero wrote: No that’s not the same. And I don’t mean paranoid in the crazy sense. I mean “overly suspicious particularly of strong confident players, to a point slightly beyond it making common sense’ I‘m suspicious of you and you don‘t make that count, so I guess that‘s how you told on yourself being mafia. | ||
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On June 10 2024 08:54 AlphaZero wrote: People having inexplicable reads should not be a thing that is allowed. It‘s really irritating to mafia though. They‘ll be like ‚tell me why‘ and put on the backstreet boys because they don‘t know how to answer | ||
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On June 10 2024 08:58 AlphaZero wrote: No it’s bad for town because mafia can say whatever and not be accountable. It should be policy lynch able in all honesty. Yeah I get it. But it‘s still information. I‘m more wary of someone writing a lot while having fuck all opinions about alignments. | ||
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On June 10 2024 09:05 Mocsta wrote: tone There's an anger/frustration that comes out that makes you feel like being back at school lol Part of why I found you scummy originally But I can understand in your smurf situation this being the case too Ah you know each other ? What school ? Not so ridiculous to pair you while I‘m reading this because you seem familiar with each other. | ||
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On June 10 2024 10:00 Trfel wrote: Might also be worth noting that raynpelikoneet's high post count, discussion heavy game without conclusions or real pushes matches his no scumread buddy-buddy play from Day 1 (before the period of inactivity Sadly I seem to have scared raynpelikoneet away Was really curious how he would respond.This isn‘t you at all lol | ||
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On June 10 2024 10:15 Vivax wrote: AZ has that bond villain vibe he must be scum. Looks less bad to me on review. It‘s very calculated posting which bothers me. But progression looks fine. Guess I‘m just struggling with the character. Might retract the scumread altogether at least for D2. Slam/Scott/Moc on the table seems ok to me. | ||
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On June 10 2024 10:37 Trfel wrote: I think he thinks Alakaslam is mafia? Bottom of the second to last page of his filter? Side note, I kinda like how Oatsmaster dismissed my post and Vivax ignored it. And they're both not committing to a stance on raynpelikoneet. Makes me think we might be on to something. The biggest lesson of all though seems to be that the game is just infinitely easier to play if AlphaZero agrees with you. I have a hard time taking your opinions as serious so I assume you just want to play with me a la me fake voting rayn on D1 and the best answer to that is to ignore it until you get serious. Maybe you‘ll tell me you‘re serious but I still wouldn‘t believe you. But it‘s entertaining | ||
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On June 10 2024 10:42 Trfel wrote: And I'm supposed to think you are town why, again? I don‘t care if you think I am town. I do my thing but it‘s not going to be to explain to you why I am. | ||
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On June 10 2024 11:08 Alakaslam wrote: Marv probably 100% badass in that filter. Well he did mention you. You‘d be my nr. 2 after scott | ||
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Town. He comes across as exhausted and was a bit repetitive with his questions but that‘s a point in his favour. I especially like his involvement with marv during the exhange between me and dmb. Looked like he was attempting a fair assessment. | ||
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Why should I ? Townreading rayn doesn‘t mean that I just copy his reads | ||
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In my experience that has yielded me mafia very reliably in my latest games unless i mindfucked my way out of my reads, sometimes with help of their teammates. | ||
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On June 10 2024 11:32 AlphaZero wrote: Doesn’t it make you pause though? And reconsider. Did you do that? I may have missed it. I haven‘t been pushing him aggressively because I assumed that‘d distract him from being active in his own way. But I don‘t really doubt my read no. | ||
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But I also trust my own more than anyone else‘s. | ||
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conversion became ghostofconversion eventually but conversion also loved to have fun in games and shitpost a bit. I don‘t see that here | ||
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On June 10 2024 11:56 die_meatbaby wrote: That he didn't die in the night is strange as hell in my eyes It was fake obviously. The only strange thing is that the prot wasn‘t on marv. And the list of afks is really small and…Maybe you can already figure out who the medic/jk is. | ||
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On June 10 2024 12:08 Oatsmaster wrote: Vivax mocsta slam final answer Lol you think I‘m double bussing ? | ||
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On June 10 2024 12:15 Trfel wrote: For example, what is this? It doesn't make sense to lynch scott31337 because the majority kept him alive, so instead we should look at the rsoultin/Koshi slot for helping keep scott31337 alive? Which only has weight if scott31337 is mafia? But remember, it doesn't make sense to lynch scott31337?!?! Just too many suspicious things to lynch them all Ah yes but the nonsense slam wrote about his marv read must make sense to you. What you‘re quoting is the translation of my frustration that scott didn‘t get lynched | ||
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The effort comes across as very coordinated and full of nonsense | ||
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But that‘s less likely imo | ||
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On June 10 2024 12:29 Mocsta wrote: Why does everyone keep posting combos We don't have the flips for association We have the marv flip. Trfel suddenly pushing mislynches and ignoring the NK and generally not looking very believable. AZ sitting around like some kung fu master sorting people into japanese fighting game tiers. Oats being Oats. | ||
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I disagree. It tells you who was actually leading vs who was just pretending. | ||
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Mighty sus. He was his biggest obstacle. | ||
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Basically trying to pull off a save on the original target of the guy who just got nkd | ||
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On June 10 2024 12:58 Trfel wrote: Vivax, can you talk to me? Even if just a little? I'm willing to work with you here but that seems like the last thing you want to do. And honestly I'm just confused as to why. If you don't agree with what I'm saying, can you just tell me why? If I'm wrong, it'd help to know, that way I can at least try to adjust. What‘s there to agree with ? Az during the night said that Scott has revealed himself mafia three times and now he‘s just sheeped you and is voting together with what he said was obvious mafia. Doesn‘t that seem a bit odd to you ? | ||
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Maybe Koshi can turn this around. Especially the Az-Scott progression from both into voting me is a massive red flag. | ||
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Because him townreading scott for that stupid reason reeks a lot of tmi. | ||
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Because the reasoning he‘s used on the last two pages is mostly crappy and he‘s way too sure on scott. ‚Because he wouldn‘t put marv in black before shooting him‘ That‘s not town Koshi | ||
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But I‘m going to take my time. I‘m phoneposting 90% of it | ||
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On June 10 2024 21:34 die_meatbaby wrote: @vivax thats way to risky to post as mafia lol you have no clue | ||
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On June 10 2024 04:19 Koshi wrote: I know you wont. You need to lynch me tomorrow to protect your scumbuddy mocsta. And the sassiness of this post oh my god I know exactly what you did here | ||
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On June 10 2024 22:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: Vivax do you have any response to Trfel's case? No, my job is nailing mafia it‘s pointless to tell others why they‘re wrong | ||
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On June 11 2024 00:06 sandroba wrote: I'm around page 70, the beginning of N1. My worldview right now is: Town: trfel mocsta oats scott Likely town: vivax AZ Mafia is here: rsoul, rayn, dmb, slam rsoul ? Aside from that it‘s not bad. Koshi/dmb/slam/rayn/mocsta is my newest pool. But it‘s thrown together I‘m busy moving and I won‘t post boxes. | ||
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On June 11 2024 00:25 scott31337 wrote: So are you saying your mindset has changed from me? Maybe. I haven‘t concluded. I‘m not in a good state of mind for this game I have too much anger inside and nobody tells me shit. I‘ve literally just been the useful gullible idiot for 90% of people in my life I hate it. | ||
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On June 11 2024 01:57 scott31337 wrote: Vigged isn't NK. Yes I did I was frustrated and down then, thought I would be the lynch again tomorrow/today. Lol you‘re covering that up with semantics. Not a good approach. | ||
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Because I said you begged to be shot not to be NKd and this just looks like you‘re so nervous about it that you need to squirrel yourself out of it. | ||
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Trfel would you consider yourself a honest and genuine person ? | ||
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On June 11 2024 02:57 Trfel wrote: How so? Like I don't want to get too off track but if you're getting at something I can humor you for a bit. You try hard to look like a saint I mean. It seems you try to act positively but I don‘t buy it and I believe you are more interested into burying the truth about people with it. Others or yourself | ||
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On June 11 2024 03:04 Trfel wrote: Middle point is actually very interesting. Good find.Okay, I mean I disagree but you have a right to your opinion. Why are you telling me this? I try to phrase things in a way that is as accurate as possible, I want to leave the least ambiguity and provide the most direct and clear phrasing. Basically I want to deal with as few misunderstandings as possible, if me being more accurate means that there are fewer misunderstandings so we can discuss the actual content more, then that's worth it for me. I‘m telling you this because my bullshit detector is detecting a push on me which isn‘t in good faith but I also refuse to believe you are mafia so you are hiding the true reason for wanting me lynched. | ||
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On June 11 2024 03:13 Koshi wrote: Anyway. I habe time for scott but not for other people. rayn is really weird. Vivax doesnt know what to do with the Tfrel pressure. Sandroba is doing more of the same. They can all get lynched. I think you‘re scum. The only way you lol at what I said is because you know I am right and that both me and Trfel are town. | ||
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On June 11 2024 03:14 Trfel wrote: I'll tell you the true reason, but can I get a few answers first?Were you able to re-evaluate? Is this:Still where your head is at? I have been skirting on my promise. My head is wildly swinging don‘t expect consistency. Koshi right now would be my best pick but I haven‘t re evaluated. | ||
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On June 11 2024 03:20 Koshi wrote: If you pushed dumb bullshit in the thread on purpose in some retarded guise to find mafia you can lynch me and then find mafia on your own. Fake outrage You love it | ||
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On June 11 2024 03:23 Koshi wrote: It's ok Vivax. You will never lynch me. But this is cute. I just want to know what Tfrel did. Why ? I will value that he was honest with it but I think he‘s town so why should I pursue it further. | ||
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On June 11 2024 03:27 Koshi wrote: Can't wait to read how Tfrel will attempt to throw this game. Why is he throwing the game ? I thought you are voting me because you think I am scum ? | ||
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On June 11 2024 03:30 Koshi wrote: Yes. But that only happened because this thread got weird. Now I might read why it got weird. Right… It shouldn‘t matter to you if anyone‘s reasons are genuine as long as they help you get your scumread lynched so I assume you just slipped up by acting so mad about it | ||
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On June 11 2024 03:33 Trfel wrote: Of my possible suspects, I felt that Vivax would be most affected by pressure. Vivax has trouble keeping up his activity as mafia, it stands to reason that he'd struggle even more when facing large odds. (explanation: if you have a hard time posting and keeping active as mafia, then that's even harder when your purpose for posting, staying alive, seems out of reach) Unfortunately it's really hard to get people to vote for something without super incredible reasons, and honestly even then I can't get people to vote for something :/ so the effort that went into getting the votes kinda gave it away. Also Vivax seems to have stuff going on (moving, health issues) that prevent him from playing up to his ideal standard, which makes it harder to get a clear conclusion from the pressure. The ideal result would have been Vivax going on a crusade to find the mafia in the face of insurmountable odds, which didn't happen, but I think the way Vivax played makes me much more able to see him as town than I was before. Because he didn't give up, he kept playing his game and doing his thing, and I respect that a ton. I'd much rather pursue other options for now, I think at this point, Vivax is much less suspicious than several others. ##unvote ##vote die_meatbaby Side note, you can call my play stupid, I wouldn't necessarily disagree. I think we benefited some from it at least, and I think a few factors out of my control limited the impact. But it's hard to know how it will play out before you will do it, and I've never tried something like this before, I figured it was worth a go. I think I'm most interested in die_meatbaby and raynpelikoneet. Second tier would be Oatsmaster, Koshi, scott31337, Alakaslam, sandroba, and Vivax. I'm very glad that raynpelikoneet and AlphaZero are whisperers, I hope that AlphaZero can get some leads there. I'm okayish with sandroba for now, honestly (as in, I am not confident enough that he is mafia to lynch him as opposed for waiting to see more from him). Oatsmaster is paranoia. Koshi is weirding me out, Alakaslam is just confusing. I think that unless something changes dramatically, die_meatbaby is the most sensible lynch. I can get behind that. Mostly because of bias and game integrity. It‘s currently hard for us to stay separated and we both might get influenced in ways not transparent to anyone else like laughter etc. Sorry that we‘re a couple, I know it creates problems in games. | ||
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On June 11 2024 03:55 Koshi wrote: Ok. I cant do shit in this game. Fml. Entirz day wasted waiting on Vivax to do something. He did nothing and this guy removes the pressure and leaves the thread in shambles. That‘s nonsense you wouldn‘t vote me if you didn‘t think I was mafia and if Trfel removed the pressure you‘d pick up said shambles and finish what he started. Crocodile tears | ||
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On June 11 2024 04:20 Koshi wrote: Ok Vivax. Let's pretend you transcended and kept so cool under this pressure. Can you explain to me why I was mafia with reasons prior to 2 hours ago? I already was a bit sus of rsoultin plus you inherited the sandro read which was kinda odd and you usually take me in defense more before committing to lynch me. | ||
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On June 11 2024 04:27 Koshi wrote: Or AZ? Everybody keeps saying he is mafia. I don‘t like his attitude so I tend to think he is mafia but I find it hard to find a proper reason. | ||
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On June 11 2024 04:38 Koshi wrote: Best reasoning for rayn mafia is: He didn't seem to be eager to be in the towncircle with marv and I. And you guys are all blind for not seeing marv and I were going to be BFFs Well he turned up with a knife in the back so maybe you already were | ||
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On June 11 2024 05:29 Koshi wrote: So how many mafia are stuck on Vivax? Asking the important questions | ||
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On June 11 2024 06:47 Koshi wrote: I think I am in the state Vivax was earlier. :D Man that sucks | ||
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On June 11 2024 07:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: Prove it is false then. I am getting angry i need to go to bed. That‘s a mood alright | ||
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On June 11 2024 07:56 Mocsta wrote: Vivax sry if in your filter You still reading me scum? I think I‘m going to pretend to be less important than I usually do and just go with trfel‘s and sandro‘s reads as long as they agree with each other. Short answer no. | ||
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On June 11 2024 08:02 AlphaZero wrote: ok here is where I am at Trfel is the Vivax lynch still the best one in your opinion? | ||
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On June 11 2024 08:09 AlphaZero wrote: Imm not going to be that available this week. so expect my activity to drop. Wait you‘re just going to peace out after that ? Your activity might drop but not for the reason you expect if that is so. | ||
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Scummiest post in the thread right now. Textbook even. | ||
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What I‘m seeing from Mocsta and AZ right now reminds me of that and I can‘t even call them scum for it. I mean I think it‘s scummy but saying it would make me a hypocrite so I will hypocritically call it scummy. | ||
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On June 11 2024 09:27 AlphaZero wrote: It’s an investment level thing. People think it’s scummy because low investment is correlated with scum. For me that ain’t true because. 1. I am smurfing to be low efforts 2. I’m clearly invested when I have time to be. 3. Self meta but investment isn’t alignment indicative for me. An example would be you calling me mafia for missing trfel read progression in the catchup. When in reality I was skimming while doing other things . Well you said ‚keep up‘ in the beginning so I expect you to hold yourself to the same standards you impose on others. I thought Koshi acting so upset over Trfel allegedly faking a read he could push on his own made him mafia, and sandro thought so too. I‘d consider that a pivotal issue that you and mocsta are ignoring while just posting a series of names with brief but not very informative reasoning. | ||
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On June 11 2024 09:33 AlphaZero wrote: I agree with the koshi thing. What more did you want me to say about it? If you agree you think he is mafia and if you think he is mafia you adjust your other reads accordingly. There‘s a maybe 1% chance we‘re scum together for example, or sandro with him. | ||
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On June 11 2024 09:41 AlphaZero wrote: That’s true. And I agree that it’s hard because there are too few obv townies. But I think that’s what points to Rayn koshi as mafia. Cause we know they are capable of being obv town, especially when they are playing together Or maybe you‘re just following sentiment because I don‘t see original thought behind this. And Oats shows up shortly after you do. Which reminds me of me pointing out you were somehow tied together. | ||
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On June 11 2024 09:48 Oatsmaster wrote: picks up phone Oh we have to come into the thread together and push opposite lynches? Okay I’m coming writes furiously That was funny ngl (: Idk you seem like you know each other. | ||
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He‘s not omnipresent which means he‘s the sanest person itt probably. At this rate I‘ll have to vote dmb but that‘s a fine lynch. Her latest appereance didn‘t impress me much and I‘m missing her grumpy walls of text. | ||
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On June 11 2024 16:33 Koshi wrote: Sandroba/DMB/+1 Can we all agree on this? Before we look for the third? I might come around. I just really dislike having sandro as mafia early because he‘s n1 or n2 kill material. | ||
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On June 11 2024 18:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why would anyone ever kill sandroba in this game N2 with the material he has produced? That‘s not an argument though, it‘s your opinion. I‘ll think it through but I also see some merit in sandros koshi+you association, although that‘s not who I want to pursue today. If he was right here and you pulled off a lynch on him it‘d be almost impossible to recover from that. | ||
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On June 11 2024 18:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: That's very stupid way of thinking Vivax. Maybe I‘ll indulge you and vote sandro. If that means you‘ll brighten up it might be worth it. But if he doesn‘t flip scum you‘d definitely be on the table for me. | ||
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On June 11 2024 21:25 Mocsta wrote: Vivax Can rayn and mocsta be tvt? I can see room for mafia rayn he‘s a lot darker than usual. Which is why I‘m unwilling to lynch sandro. And he‘s a great asset if town. Especially when sandro + Trfel agree. | ||
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On June 10 2024 21:34 die_meatbaby wrote: @vivax thats way to risky to post as mafia This I don‘t understand. Why ? Or the mocsta blue read. I don‘t think she‘d believe that was a legit claim. | ||
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On June 11 2024 00:22 die_meatbaby wrote: So you and sandro already working together in the thread? Pls do that on discord not here. Thats to obvious... ##Vote Vivax And this shortly afterwards. How does that compute with Koshi voting me if I scumread scott being too risky for him to be scum ? Should be like the safest play ever. | ||
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On June 11 2024 21:52 Oatsmaster wrote: You think she would be able to tell that mocsta was joking if she was town? Looks like fake dumbtell to me. No one would believe his claim at night. Genius if he actually is though lol | ||
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On June 11 2024 21:57 Oatsmaster wrote: Dmb dumb telled hella a lot in the other game that she played though Hm. I think it‘s dangerous to lynch sandro here still. If he‘s town the game will crumble and we might be facing off with Koshi + rayn. My gut doesn‘t like rayn as it usually does but I don‘t have it in me to dig through him now. DMB would be a less harmful lynch to the game overall, if we‘re wrong. We‘d be arguing over the dumbtells all day, and it causes inner conflict in me while we‘re both in the game. I think it‘s fair to make this day about me vs her | ||
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On June 12 2024 00:53 Koshi wrote: This voting pattern of sandroba + explanation proves he is mafia. But it is ok. DMB is as well. And if you lynch rayn I can live with it because I know most of you are townies. Last line has a hint of bitterness in it. Almost like the scumbutts outside of the game who read my posts and understand them but pretend not to | ||
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On June 12 2024 06:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: It highly irritates me that + Show Spoiler + noone else can really see the things here other than Oats and Koshi (but Koshi is playing the i-dont-care-fuck-you-all game). Or well not really that, mainly Trfel (and AZ), because Trfel keeps repeating the point the "rayn has not made any good observations in the game therefore mafia". I was concerned during N1, that when scott didn't get lynched, maybe one or two of marv/AZ is mafia. Obviously i was wrong on marv. We had a talk about my notion that "if youre both town with marv, why didn't you get scott lynched" with AZ in the mason chat. He of course refuses to acknowledge that its a good point since he has to regardless of alignment. He however acknowledges that it was reasonable, "And it’s a good observation I always said that". Except he never says that in thread. Another thing is about the Trfel case on Vivax. I was literally the only person in the game to call that case bad. By default it's a good observation, because Trfel himself said so. Both of those things are considered good observations, even if i am wrong about alignments here. It annoys me a great deal that even after that, nobody even noticed those things, Trfel keeps telling i am playing like shit, and AZ doesn't do any-fucking-thing about that while telling me in mason QT absolutely different story that Trfel is telling here -- and never clears that up in thread. We havent really been talking about anything else too much, aside from our reads on each other, and one other person, which is not really relevant at the moment. Now as for Mocsta, My comment on Mocsta after i said he is only posturing imo, was this: Why do you never ever share a single shred of doubt on Trfel's alignment. You havent played for what, 10 or so years, so you should have no clue about Trfel's recent meta. I do not think it is wrong to assume Mocsta should even for a teeny tiny bit consider Trfel's alignment when Trfel goes like "vote Vivax" ---> Mocsta goes "wow good yeah lets do that shit", "naaah i was just faking a case, rayn and koshi and DMB are mafia", "wow yeah okay, let's kill DMB!", "naah i am actually voting for sandroba WITH rayn and DMB". At this point, why the hell doesn't Mocsta shred a SINGLE moment on reconsidering Trfel's alignment????? AZ calls me mafia for thinking he should. Yet my opinion is: " If Trfel was anyone but Trfel i would say Trfel is mafia because he keeps repeating his awful points and fails to even reconsider anything for a second just because he is too tunneled. Like his points are literally awful!!!! However Trfel is the only player i ever read just by tone, and this is town Trfel. He made me very angry yesterday, and idgaf if you lynch me, even if i could i wont be saying anything to him anymore and let him fucking throw." This however should not be clear to Mocsta. Trfel just pushed all the shit Mocsta apparently "wanted", and ended up on full opposite side of all those things. But no, Mocsta doesn't reconsider him at all, he doesn't even tell him he's being stupid or anything. Like just nothing at all. I think that's mafia. Furthermore there is this thing when he is already gearing up on sandroba mafia lynch. Everything from his post #3099 is simply just preparing himself to look better after flip. There is simply no reason why he should have a thought in his head that rayn is mafia and at least one of DMB/sandroba is mafia. It is simply insane to have a thought that i am mafia with sandroba!! This post is just simply nitpicking on semantics in a very scummy way: On June 11 2024 17:56 Mocsta wrote: well rayn was asked 2 things. 1 direct. 1 indirect Rayn answered neither Direct. "Was their deceit" = there was no need for deceit i.e. reframed scummy by dodging the question Indirect. "But the talk was good.it felt like 5 townies" = mocsta shit. Az dumb. Trfel lost cause. Vivax lose causw I.e. gives 2 of 5 a town read with a caveat... Again scummy reframe. Now.. the counter argument is that rayn is defensive due to votes. Yet... This is both overly antagonist (per my comments above) and bear in mind, as a town!rayn, koshi has mostly been an advocate for rayn and asked very politely. Even oats for all his abrasiveness and bravado does not ignore and reframe in this way. This for me is a very clear approach that only comes from.mafia mindset. I literally answered exactly what Koshi asked, and even more. Mocsta = mafia AZ is being dumb, mafia or town idk Others are town and dumb If he cannot fucking deduce that from the post for real he has to be the dumbest person on earth. He is simply just using semantics of "rayn not answering the question" to painnt me scummy, when i did answer, and more. Probably because he has deduced Trfel is incapable of hearing anything of how rayn could possibly do something townie in this fucking game from behind of his eye-shutters. Yeah end rant. Now my only question is what alignment is AZ? If he is town what am i missing? Counterpoint: You are rayn, you usuall don‘t need to tell us you are irritated, you already radiate it. | ||
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Rayn looks more chaotic. Don‘t like it when he has to emphasize feelings to support his writing. | ||
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He‘s very specific and unfluffy. I don‘t have to wade through a pool of glue to figure out what he thinks exactly. | ||
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On June 12 2024 07:23 Koshi wrote: It screams "I have no conviction and will park my vote anywhere it benefits me" Well no, he didn‘t vote me while having the opportunity. You did. Dmb did. | ||
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On June 12 2024 07:33 Koshi wrote: Ignore Vivax. He is extra edgy today. I don't understand why this town fights so much. I can only hope sandroba is town. Then is makes sense. And you are being a jelq | ||
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On June 12 2024 07:55 Mocsta wrote: Oi You went all jedi meditating to go 1:1 with dmb What happened after.. eh.. eh?? Are you 18 br0 I guess sandro got lucky for not being here to opportunistically vote me like Koshi claimed he‘d do | ||
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I‘m not on my best game because I‘m busy with counter intelligence and need to take a few risks so that‘s a kinda weak threat | ||
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On June 12 2024 08:12 Mocsta wrote: i'm serious with the question you wanted D2 to be vivax vs dmb is this what you meant by you vs her? The point is that I hate having to handle dmb and I think we are both always overly self conscious in games we‘re in together. After my past experiences with DP I know I have to policy kill her or mafia can just generate endless bullshit in lategame when we‘re both alive and have legitimate concerns about conflicts of interest at that. | ||
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The night after Palmar lynch. You can‘t have finely nuanced reads as a couple you just can‘t. It‘s always a dirty read imo. Unless you stay away from each other for the entire duration of the game but it‘s always going to affect moods and behaviours in some way. | ||
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On June 12 2024 08:21 Mocsta wrote: So sandroba is getting lynches today 6 or 7 to 3 last I checked At what point do you follow through to policy lynch Shouldn't you be on dmb >> sandroba then? Well I am. I‘m as suspicious of Koshi and rayn as he is. | ||
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On June 12 2024 08:25 Mocsta wrote: man sorry. I legit thought you were on sandroba This game is killing me right now. 3hrs sleep sigh Love your vibe though it‘s fun to have you around + the book titles lol | ||
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On June 12 2024 09:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: "have chosen" maybe it is just me but everything mocsta writes is in a scummy way Maybe he went to law school | ||
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On June 12 2024 08:57 Grackaroni wrote: Day Two Vote Count sandroba (7); raynpelikoneet, Koshi, Scott31337, Oatsmaster, die_meatbaby, trfel, Alakaslam die_meatbaby (3): raynpelikoneet(1): Mocsta, Vivax (0): Koshi (0): scott31337 (0): With 7 votes, sandroba is currently set to be lynched! The deadline is Wednesday, Jun 12 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in They‘re definitely putting on a fight here. But I know that‘s a bad argument. | ||
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On June 12 2024 09:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: unless ofc you know sandroba is going to flip town. I said tops that means 0-3 | ||
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Tbh this could have been rayn projecting that he knew sandro was town. Really weird accusation but we will find out | ||
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Went over your filter but it‘s mostly questions and little statements imo. | ||
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Scott‘s reasons for being on the wagon are just not satisfying imo. But maybe Trfel just has a default bloc that sheeps him idk. Scott, az, Oats | ||
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On June 12 2024 10:29 scott31337 wrote: I'll let others chime in, but rsoul does a lot of overthinking or overtyping. I'm not the best at phrasing it - but I could see her going in circles - especially when I was leaning town on her. I wanted to be clear. I don't like swearing in mafia (or RL) either but there are times I still do it. You mean you can mentally afford not to swear | ||
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On June 12 2024 10:43 Oatsmaster wrote: Vivax you think it’s dmb rayn koshi? No I just wrote it for fun. Cmon dude | ||
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Lol imagine if you had to. That‘s why the world is descending into anarchy | ||
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So much for the rayn tmi | ||
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On June 12 2024 11:49 Trfel wrote: Koshi is very likey town imo due to rsoultin's desire to lynch sandroba day 1. You mean he‘s outed scum. That was obvious tmi | ||
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On June 12 2024 12:04 Mocsta wrote: maybe we all mature Can‘t get mature here tbh it‘s like the matrix but run by rich folks who use government as a front. Well that‘s probably true everywhere but I prefer when the rich dudes don‘t try to play you using sick relatives (probably) | ||
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It‘s like I was a government in 2008 I bailed out someone who‘d turn me insane over the years and used me for money. Then the entire place became nuts and I got evicted twice and both times for laughable reasons considering what was allowed for people who weren‘t me. And now Austrian right wing ? No thanks, I‘d rather watch you self destruct again from somewhere else. | ||
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On June 12 2024 15:32 Koshi wrote: I suggest we sing kumbaja together during the night. There was too much arguing during the day. Been trying to sleep for 6 hours fml | ||
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This isn‘t high effort mafia we‘re facing. Mb Az/dmb/Oats cuz he dropped off Slam looking good imo | ||
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On June 12 2024 15:32 Koshi wrote: I suggest we sing kumbaja together during the night. There was too much arguing during the day. I suggest you get over here and practice thoracic surgery on me | ||
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On June 12 2024 23:28 Oatsmaster wrote: Vivax where you at right now Not so fast buddy you could invite me to dinner first + Show Spoiler + at work | ||
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On June 12 2024 12:00 Oatsmaster wrote: Mafia pls kill trfel I don’t wanna die I mean what is Oats playing. This post and him asking me stuff repearedly that I literally said 5 minutes ago is just not very trust inducing. | ||
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On June 13 2024 03:54 Koshi wrote: No. If I am alive tomorrow I revisit everything. I dont have a preffered lynch target. I wont lynch Oats. Is this a pocketing attempt because it reads like one. | ||
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On June 13 2024 07:14 scott31337 wrote: Yeah I do. Since I know you'll ask why - The main reason is you seem to be allergic to vote for other mafia. Lowkey townie. Takes balls as mafia to not bus here | ||
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On June 13 2024 07:14 scott31337 wrote: Yeah I do. Since I know you'll ask why - The main reason is you seem to be allergic to vote for other mafia. I just realized you presume that you are 100% correct on dmb being town | ||
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On June 13 2024 05:38 Alakaslam wrote: :O you saw it before it happened? Why on earth did you still go??? I‘m confused. But that‘s okay these days. I survived, for now. I‘m considering joining a foreign army and just start abusing the shit out of my power like is usual here, maybe take a few bribes from rich land owners I‘m related to like is usual here. Carry on the country tradition. | ||
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I might have seen too much (game related) | ||
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The core issue is that those who supposedly prevented me from being damaged for my own good became the biggest damage in my life. It should be almost village sized. By doing so and delegating everything to the one who encouraged them to they made it worse and worse over decades, then came other factors. Basically a huge swathe of land committed to sweeping shit under the rug until it grew bigger and burst over everyone cause it grew for a reason they didn‘t want to question. And we‘re talking entire groups here not just that one person. The evictions and the constant sleep deprivation, vandalism etc plus being manipulated into putting up with all sorts of shit eventually led to the… no fucks given moments | ||
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But it‘s even worse when those who originally had them turn around and do a full force reversal. Even worse when it‘s based on someone manipulating them into it. | ||
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I guess I made mistakes but it was more out of chaos and sometimes intrusive thoughts over targeted malice. Sometimes just wanting to pull on a string to its limits to see when it would snap and finding out who was locally trying to micromanage me using illegal sources. | ||
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On June 13 2024 08:57 die_meatbaby wrote: Plants getting destroyed by humans. Maybe you should wish to be the sun so you could burn the earth, find a New simuliar Planet, be responsibul for the New life whats growing there and basically becoming a kind of god. Wishing to be the sun is all fun and games when you mean it metaphorically and then it turns literal | ||
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It isn‘t always for the players I‘m writing. Rather those who interrupted my pace in an attempt to silence or even harm me. Ba-dum-tss that‘s how they lit themselves up. I don‘t care about that I care about answers. With answers I wouldn‘t need action and I could quit being tormented. And it‘s hard to stay sane in this particular location. Someone‘s taking credit for something they didn‘t do. | ||
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On June 13 2024 09:28 die_meatbaby wrote: strange. I really can´t explain, but he just playing like never before and was reading a lot of games from him. It feels like he don´t want to have interactions if anybody or at least just short ones also this post feeling kinda scummy for me I think that he is praising himself here Not really but I just realized I was thinking from scott‘s frame of thinking and shortly afterwards I realized he might have slipped a rock hard townread of unknown origins on you. | ||
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On June 13 2024 09:36 scott31337 wrote: I'll cover this too, but it's extremely unlikely how the wagon went down DMB is mafia especially with how you and Vivax voted. Not a satisfactory explanation to me but at least you have one. Both wifom and association in it. | ||
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On June 13 2024 09:56 Mocsta wrote: thats pretty close to where i have settled its basically (az + 1 of vivax/slam). more likely vivax koshi shot tongiht most likely I don‘t think dmb is cleared. It‘s kinda wifomy but mafia bus at least 1 partner and if you rule out rayn + Koshi then you‘re left with her. AZ I think I might just townread after all but I got time to read more, something I need to do. | ||
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On June 13 2024 10:02 die_meatbaby wrote: @vivax can you tell me your reads right now? I‘m re-evaluating | ||
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![[image loading]](https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1454088193339494409/J4bUYxwU_400x400.jpg) I recently saw a guy who looked like this, just a lot more psycho aura | ||
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On June 13 2024 10:12 die_meatbaby wrote: btw it's very typical that vivax posts a lot of memes and off topic in his mafia games to seem active but is not really productive... Lool if you actually knew I can turn rooms a lot lighter and darker but it needs the right work setting | ||
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Repetitive questions can be irritating happens but please don‘t make it a habit | ||
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Many reasons that require reading. If you don‘t want to read you can always be loud and opinionated but don‘t spam questions with answers itt | ||
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But it‘s completely wrong. My meta is so massive that it‘s pointless to discuss. Typically just less interested as scum. I‘m bad at it. | ||
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On June 13 2024 10:28 die_meatbaby wrote: so you don't want to talk to me and you don't want to explain to me why exactly you think i'm mafia. Very good. Your filter is full of disturbing posts about Austria and the people who live here, but I can't find what I actually want to know. at least tell me the reasons. I find the people here disturbing so my posts are disturbed. Like what do I need to talk with you about ? Do you need me to convince you that you are mafia ? | ||
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On June 13 2024 10:31 AlphaZero wrote: She is probably not mafia though. Its scott and mocsta. Almost but not quite.  | ||
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I really think you and dmb Sandro got me really hooked on rayn Koshi though, that was impressive. It’s fun to have them as scum regardless | ||
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But it‘s a gut feeling I‘ve been carrying along for a long while. | ||
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On June 13 2024 10:40 die_meatbaby wrote: why not talk about it? are you scared that I can tell you why you are wrong or do you have actually not good reasons do read me as mafia? Talk about what ? I am talking about it. | ||
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I meant it in a different way. But I‘ll explain at another time. | ||
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I can‘t because I‘d be stupid to do so | ||
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On June 13 2024 10:49 die_meatbaby wrote: How am I supposed to explain to you that I am town if I don't even know why you think the opposite of me? In case you might be town, I would like to explain to you that I am town in order to win together. But if you don't want to, don't make a case of me and just vote me after the night phase without any real reason or explanation. It's totally normal what you do here... You‘re town when you look for scum not when you ask for ways to be townread. There‘s no hint that I wouldn‘t vote Az over you tomorrow so you could just decide for yourself if you want to do that rather than making me repeat why I think you‘re scum so you can convince me otherwise. I‘m not that important over what you can do yourself for that to matter. | ||
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On June 13 2024 10:58 die_meatbaby wrote: Mafia fights as a team against individual townies. It is important to find townies and build a team to find and lynch them together But you don‘t need me to necessarily townread you if you can post a convincing case for why someone is more likely mafia than you. | ||
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On June 13 2024 11:02 Mocsta wrote: wow, gg oats is this meant to be a setup on how dumb dmb is? its got to be vivax taking the piss/mickey/glory Please don‘t say stuff like that | ||
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On June 13 2024 11:01 AlphaZero wrote: so basically scott claimed scum. because his DMB read is super waffly, but he slipped that DMB was town. Alrernative scenario is that he had that read on dmb for other reasons than being scum. I was thinking investigative maybe. But the flipside could be mafia. | ||
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On June 13 2024 11:44 scott31337 wrote: I am content with how us town are in the position we are. I just am more focused on solving this and am more straight to the point. Ya'll want to come to the country in the United States? The only way I‘d get in is by dropping out of a plane disguised as a wad of cash | ||
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On June 13 2024 11:51 die_meatbaby wrote: Sorry I rather go to some country in scandinavia. I am searching for real freedom + Show Spoiler + The US is alright the experience depends on where you‘re at. A bit scary though. When you reach freedom‘s end you‘ll notice quickly… Here it‘s more like permanent stasis cause it‘s so small and it‘s gossip-country. I can see it in their faces when they read my posts secretly while I bitch and moan about everything. But it mostly pisses diehard patriots off so it‘s worth it. I‘ll wait on Trfel‘s opinion for a change, regarding the lynch. | ||
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On June 13 2024 11:55 Trfel wrote: No no no you don't want to live in the US, trust me. Not at this day and age no. Maybe I‘ll disguise as greenland shark and drop on Palmar instead… | ||
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On June 13 2024 22:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: ##vote Mocsta That was unexpected | ||
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On June 14 2024 01:20 Alakaslam wrote: Was it, though? What was rayn yelling all yesterday? Idk it was from my egocentric view of it. I don‘t think I‘d want to vote mocsta so quickly I find most of his posts likable. Except when he calls dmb dumb but that doesn‘t mean he‘s mafia. | ||
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On June 12 2024 12:00 Oatsmaster wrote: Mafia pls kill trfel I don’t wanna die Maybe Trfel is mafia for that night kill. Just so he could have something to laugh about. | ||
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On June 07 2024 12:40 Trfel wrote: The real question here is if we are lynching scott31337 today or waiting until tomorrow? This is such an odd post | ||
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On June 14 2024 02:54 Trfel wrote: I mean, if I was mafia I probably wouldn't have listened to Oatsmaster's plea here. Probably. Idk it would be an evil mastermind move. Are you into that ? | ||
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On June 13 2024 16:20 Trfel wrote: Can I just say: If someone says they have a power role for no reason, when saying so makes no sense, they probably are joking? And even if they are serious, it's best to ignore it until later? Just like you should keep discussing things at night? And don't make associative reasons for people to not be mafia unless you are absolutely sure? Gosh, when did I become the thread police Lol you reminded me of posts like these On April 09 2013 00:48 austinmcc wrote: WEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEE It is not terribly important whether this is similar to the yamato/kurumi shot in Personality 2. This is a different game, and I don't think either of you can go from proving your point as to whether it's similar --> scumhunting effectively in this game. So please, drop it. I'm slacking heavily kinda distracted by thinking about the irl villagers who tried to vig me irl for not being right wing enough and whose identities I haven't found yet, though I tried really hard to appear like it. Personal safety reasons. Let me think about the game 1 sec | ||
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On June 14 2024 03:19 Koshi wrote: I think the mafia team is Vivax/dmb tbh You mean to say I've been bussing for two days straight? Trust me bro I usually don't do favours but in that case I'd be willing to die first :p , theatrically at that | ||
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One can bitch about Uncle Sam but at least they got technology that can stop entire governments from bending the truth or using people as scapegoats or creating false virtuosos. Anyway. I‘m operating under a dmb + Az assumption and am keeping the apparent Tmi from scott in mind but postponing that. I believe sandro would at least include a teammate and it‘d be one who was already at risk of being lynched if so, so most likely so dmb fits. I‘m wildly guessing rayn and koshi are just town cause him bussing two would be a bit much but it‘s not impossible, just not worthy of consideration for now. | ||
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On June 14 2024 04:14 Koshi wrote: Hmm. No. I just don't know who is left atm. Everybody must have bussed 1 person pretty loudly. AZ and Slam? I don‘t understand it from your wording. Who is everybody. In my opinion sandro bussed dmb. If not dmb then one of you or rayn is scum. I remember that sandro loved how I thought you were scum for fake outrage and that he thought you looked very bad. You don‘t need rayn‘s permission to scumread slam either so ugh | ||
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On June 14 2024 04:16 Koshi wrote: It feels so real. This is the post order that would actually be worth something | ||
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On June 14 2024 04:37 Koshi wrote: Did you see the dmb post rayn quoted? Would dmb do that? Attack both sandroba and mocsta? Mocsta would be supacool under pressure in that case. He just parked on rayn and said ‚fuk da cred‘ | ||
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On June 14 2024 04:48 Trfel wrote: Idk... You can't just post as egregiously as you did and then come back to business as usual, surely? It feels belligerent, flaunting even. "Look what I can get away with!" It makes me not want to let you get away with it. That‘d be one way to snap out of apathy together with a copious amount of stimpaks | ||
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I don‘t advocate for murder, just camps full of shrinks, drugs and cabins where people can tell the truth to each other. Basically music festivals but less expensive | ||
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Now all I want is knowing what the hell is going on and have inner peace cause it always feels like I‘m in the middle of manipulative schemes no matter what I do around here. | ||
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On June 14 2024 05:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: Is this the day when we are all FRIENDS and then lynch mafia? Sounds good | ||
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On June 14 2024 06:05 Alakaslam wrote: Lol No u Anyway, we have peace amidst all this shit flinging You maybe, I have a library of personality disorders. | ||
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On June 14 2024 06:23 die_meatbaby wrote: I already made my iced coffee with vanilla. And you didn‘t bring me any, scum tbh I had an apple | ||
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On June 14 2024 07:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: Oooogooohooooogooooo-ooo caught in a bad romance lol <3 | ||
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On June 14 2024 08:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: vivax what's your mafia team rn? Same as before. Dmb and Az. Oats died. Otherwise scott could be but I don‘t currently view that as an option today. If not dmb I‘d begin with considering you and Koshi for pretty much the same reasons as before. | ||
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It‘s a bit trust based I think the way he posts is townie. He‘s unafraid to overstep some boundaries. Generally posting out of his arse at times, I‘m on the lookout for cautious and calculated. You don‘t test boundaries when you‘re afraid. That‘d mean you have something to lose. | ||
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On June 14 2024 08:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: What are those boundaries you are talking about? Example? Calling dmb dumb. | ||
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On June 14 2024 08:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: My opinion is all obs thinks i am mafia at D2, so FUCK YOU ALL IN THE OBS TOO! :D I don‘t believe you :p | ||
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On June 14 2024 08:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: you know i am never shooting you in the face unless it is dmb <3 wtf o.O | ||
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See that‘s also something scummy Koshi did he thinks he needs rayn‘s permission to scumread people. Maybe az koshi after all | ||
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On June 14 2024 08:54 AlphaZero wrote: this is shit, of course you need to reconsider alternative scenarios. But im arguing with rayn about scott, im not asking for permission for my reads. That‘s not reconsidering other scenarios that‘s bending your reads to be a people pleaser | ||
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Maybe it was just weird wording | ||
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Ok what makes mocsta mafia allegedly ? | ||
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On June 14 2024 09:01 scott31337 wrote: So I scum read my partner Sandroba the whole game I vote Sandroba 3rd Lynch Sandroba even with all the other thread stuff And I'm still mafia ![[image loading]](https://media1.tenor.com/m/43riVRFX3HMAAAAC/jennifer-lawrence-j-law.gif) Lol that‘s the scummiest defense ever. Unless you can build a case for someone being mafia for how they voted or not voted sandroba. | ||
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You deserve it anyway for my sins. | ||
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On June 14 2024 09:08 AlphaZero wrote: im going to be thoroughly unpleasant to deal with in the post game if scott is mafia, The comma at the end makes this really creepy | ||
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On June 14 2024 09:19 scott31337 wrote: I think AZ and Slam, but that could be the OMGUS coming out of me on Slam. If not Slam than Vivax or conspiracy theory land but I'm not doing that until D4. I still think DMB and Mocsta are both town. Lol @ slam scum Guys a sunshine | ||
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On June 14 2024 09:28 Alakaslam wrote: I swear I am suffering this right now My mood during our first game on MU together, especially when I went over your posts No brain just laugh | ||
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On June 14 2024 09:34 AlphaZero wrote: rayn should just go to poland. done. Also flights are cheap as hell in europe. ok, can we focus on the game now. why is vivax voting mocsta here? I‘m sheeping rayn. He has my word and my fax | ||
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Why so quick to give up though, nobody means to offend you. We need something more tangible in this game I think. Maybe I should towncase you to sway rayn instead of just sheeping him. Unless I think the opposite upon review. | ||
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On June 14 2024 10:34 Alakaslam wrote: I mean he has a lot more reason than I did, in the context of the game. Shit is getting tough globally too it seems but honestly things are not going well for Moc as either alignment here Mate is this a war room conference or a mafia game sometimes I wonder | ||
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The post doesn‘t read as genuine as I originally thought. Just chill out, have a wank idk | ||
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Don’t leave lol we’re in half the day. I care I can change vote | ||
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I unvoted. Maybe I’ll have a wank and think about the game. | ||
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Omae wa vote shindeiru | ||
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On June 08 2024 00:14 AlphaZero wrote: 1.) Sandro has already cooked. 2.) what’s scummy about Kelsier? 1 ) here is oddly aware while also evasive of sandro and unapecific and it is followed by a top town read in the next post. Stream of thoughts from phone so bear with me | ||
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I know he said time constraints but still he rushed outta here | ||
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I’m thinking it’s DP now… | ||
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On June 08 2024 21:31 AlphaZero wrote: I will say one thing. Sandroba needs to do things cause I’m getting antsy. Rso is right about that. ew Covering his bases quickly I see I’m voting him | ||
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It also gets progressively harder to lynch him the bigger the game gets in size. | ||
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On June 14 2024 11:59 AlphaZero wrote: why am I mafia vivax? Ah yes it‘s you Well I‘ll try to summarize after sleep & work so mostly go over my filter to recapitulate. The latter two quotes I talked about will be part of it. Recently the fact you bent to rayn‘s opinion, and as for early game your vibe was off and we even briefly had a majority on you. | ||
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On June 14 2024 12:08 AlphaZero wrote: So basically you need time to think of why. It‘s 5 AM. The reasons kept piling on. But maybe you want me to say that it‘s because you didn‘t get sandroba lynched. | ||
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Like when you acknowledged rsoultin’s read and hedged your sandro read but then didn’t really do much about it when sandro still remained at low post count. | ||
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Bussing is one thing you can do it all the time but being the main reason your target gets lynched is another. | ||
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So I’m back to square 1, or n2 | ||
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On June 14 2024 23:03 Mocsta wrote: It's not impossible Well tbf I was thinking you‘re the bus and dmb is the cw | ||
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I think Az is triangulating here | ||
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On June 14 2024 23:09 Vivax wrote: But that can change. I think Az is triangulating here Or maybe that‘s the wrong word but I‘m at work and can only post very little and sneakily | ||
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On June 14 2024 23:12 Mocsta wrote: What do you mean? Is Scott is the triangle? I'm taken slightly back you think me and dmb or Me and az could be a duo Maybe me and dmb There's like no way me and az can be mafia/mafia There's no upside to have it's been playing out I’ll take that into consideration | ||
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On June 14 2024 23:13 Mocsta wrote: Wait Vivax so you're telling me If dmb filter was a smurf You would read the past couple pages and go. Dayam that's townie as fuck? No I think all the fuckfucks flying around are a good sign they’re nervous | ||
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On June 14 2024 23:23 Mocsta wrote: Ok yet I am.syruggling to compute Vivax left hand = dmb is nervous -> implies scummy Vivax right hand = mocsta you shouldn't vote dmb. Press az instead I can't reconcile this? I was talking about az voting you but pushing dmb you git | ||
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On June 15 2024 02:59 Koshi wrote: I truly wonder if Mafia!Vivax is just trolling dmb at this point. Literally doing everything that dmb said would make Vivax mafia. What are you talking about. I’m trolling dmb when I have her and az as mafia ? I wanna go home. | ||
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On June 15 2024 03:00 Koshi wrote: It is criminal he isnt voting dmb though. I did yesterday. No prospect of cred when I don’t wanna lynch her today. Must be dumbest mafia ever | ||
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Then we revisit dmb and joshu | ||
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But the az lynch is glorious | ||
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You are savage | ||
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On June 15 2024 04:44 AlphaZero wrote: I guess it could be dmb/vivax after all. Alphazero the last opinionbender just suckling on that sentiment however it comes | ||
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On June 15 2024 05:02 AlphaZero wrote: Didn’t you have dmb as mafia? Why you flailing around ? Lol nice double standard I‘m not flailing I‘m shitposting | ||
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You just parroted my argument on yourself though | ||
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Boring | ||
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You animal | ||
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I can‘t bring myself to lynch dmb dudes. Fuck you alllll ##Unvote | ||
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On June 15 2024 08:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Im not voting AZ over dmb. Yeah shiny words always work over what‘s in people‘s souls | ||
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On June 15 2024 08:21 Mocsta wrote: @vivax.. what has changed between d2 vote and d3 you were all good to vote off dmb before? Well I prioritize her effort now. This feels like seal clubbing | ||
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On June 15 2024 08:26 Mocsta wrote: but at one point your scum team as rayn/kosh/dmb/slam did you prioritise rayn and koshi scum hunting? i really cant remember much of what you write, as was shocked you are 27p Az will fold you like omelettes | ||
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On June 15 2024 08:30 Trfel wrote: Hm, I think you've had plenty of opportunities. I've reached out to you a ton. I wouldn't call that tunneled. More that there hasn't been much reason to think differently. I'd lynch scott31337, I'd very likely lynch Vivax, I'd mayyyyyyyyyyyybbbbbbbbbbbeeeeeeeeeeeee lynch raynpelikoneet but probably not today. You may be town, but still a bit of a dick. A covert one though. | ||
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On June 15 2024 08:34 Alakaslam wrote: Pissitude is a thing trfel kinda entitled ngl he hasn‘t tasted freedom yet | ||
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On June 15 2024 08:36 Trfel wrote: What did I do this time? Say I want to lynch you? No you only look at surface level stuff. Or how compliant players are to your demands | ||
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On June 15 2024 08:38 Mocsta wrote: no one is lynching you for inactivity you need to stop with this "please pity me" thing Well that‘s sound advice but hard to take out of her | ||
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On June 15 2024 08:42 Trfel wrote: So if I were to translate from Vivax-speak, you're mad because I am ignoring your filter-length-town argument and am trying to gauge how much support there is for different lynches? When it's barely two hours until a deadline? I gave you the reasons for me scumreading az in discord Don‘t act like I didn‘t when you didn‘t give any evaluation on them. | ||
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You don‘t solve games towncasing yourself extensively | ||
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On June 15 2024 08:48 Trfel wrote: Uh, what? First, that has nothing to do with it, and second, I said that I looked into it and your reasons didn't make any sense? didn‘t make any sense *to you* see what I mean by entitlement | ||
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On June 15 2024 08:53 Trfel wrote: How else am I supposed to evaluate something? "Okay well this makes no sense to me but lemme get my buddy over here to see if it makes sense to them" Like isn't that cheating? Most of scumhunting is best done by gut the limitation is that we aren‘t able to put gut into words | ||
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On June 15 2024 08:57 Trfel wrote: Maybe that's how it works for you, but that's not how it works for me. You attacked my character, then attacked my reads, then lied about me not responding to your reasons to suspect AlphaZero, and now you're accusing me of not using my gut to find mafia? Where on earth are you going with this?!?!! What is the point? I have no idea what you're trying to say, it seems like you are making up reasons to attack me and whenever I address them, you're deflecting and coming from a different angle? But we aren't lynching Vivax? I don‘t follow scripts or play the game like you think I should so if you just block off my attempts to work together with you by saying silly things like I‘m scum because I don‘t talk to you immediately you leave me with no choice but to question you in many different manners | ||
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On June 15 2024 08:59 AlphaZero wrote: We could also do vivax just saying. You sound very convinced. More like ‚hey gang why not that guy some of you called scum earlier‘ | ||
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On June 15 2024 09:07 Vivax wrote: Ah yes he voted dmb but if he gets lynched he wants vivax and scott… He‘s shouting it from the rooftops that his vote isn‘t even on hos scumread right now | ||
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On June 15 2024 09:15 die_meatbaby wrote: @Trfel whats your opinion about everyone here is changing vote? Which vote swapping doesn’t make sense do you. Looks someone more scummy here? This drives me fucking crazy here. I only have one question for you. Am I town ? | ||
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Funny that it always worked | ||
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On June 15 2024 09:20 die_meatbaby wrote: I have read many of your games. Green, blue, red.... In none of these games have you ever done as little scumhunting as here... It's not comparable to any game you've ever played. Yes or no | ||
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On June 15 2024 09:23 die_meatbaby wrote: Do I really have to tell what I think of you right now? That‘s one wrong answer too much. I think you‘d always have to townread me here. So I‘m voting you again | ||
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On June 15 2024 09:20 Trfel wrote: Yes, your filter size does indicate that you could be town. But at some point, I think we need to weigh the other reasons vs that one reason. I am really, really reluctant to townread someone for one single reason unless I am absolutely sure. ugh ok use 10 weak reasons to trump the single strong one because you‘d want me lynched anyway… | ||
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On June 15 2024 09:27 die_meatbaby wrote: blue or red?? what are you. You helping kinda less and not trying to stick you neck out to much... I am literally sticking my neck out for hours but you didn‘t conclude I was town. I can‘t help you. | ||
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I mean she has her own kind of insanity but that‘s just the obly correct conclusion if she‘s town | ||
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On June 15 2024 09:32 Mocsta wrote: I'm going to go vivax too At worst (town) it will help change the trajectory for dmb which may be pivotal. Is next lynch possibly mylo? At best, (scum) it will help bring clarity to town at war (like Rayn to me) ##vote: vivax You realize I stopped sheeping rayn on you yes ? | ||
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On June 15 2024 09:35 Mocsta wrote: It's nothing to do with that Your play with trfel now is wank talkkeen to respond but not substantiate Vivax.. me want the jizz There's no jizz This was the most productive chaos I‘ve ever pulled off imo. But it only becomes clear with my alignment | ||
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Mocsta + dmb ggnore His unvote + vote was iconic | ||
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On June 15 2024 09:42 die_meatbaby wrote: you think I am scum because I don´t read you as town? In this case yes. You don‘t have a read at all | ||
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On June 15 2024 09:45 die_meatbaby wrote: dp 80+ pages ... town reads because of pages doesn´t exist any more. 15+ pages of your filter is off topic, not game pertinent I play it safe as mafia. I could just have lynched you but you don‘t see it | ||
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And convince myself dmb was mafia | ||
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On June 15 2024 09:49 scott31337 wrote: I know the database isn't up to date but any game I found it was 10 pages or less if you were mafia. Ugg Thanks for checking. Idk what trfel rayn and az are playing | ||
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I understand your question better than the answer. | ||
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Good night. I have high hopes you will correctly lynch mocsta and dmb without me or change your mind again. I just get too attached or second guess myself to wagon them with you on two opportunities. I‘m weak. My mind needs a rest, and worst case I get to discord with cool folk | ||
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On June 15 2024 10:20 AlphaZero wrote: No. I am saying that the last time he was mislynched it was not like this implying it is not a mislynch. Fucking hell. Do you not think that my selfish scheme here made two things really obvious. 1) Dmb doesn‘t realize I just turned a truck away from her and if she‘s town I had no reason to do so as scum. 2) Dmb is completely unaffected by the relationship component which tells me other things because I am affected by it. 3) Dmb doesn‘t have a real read on me 4) I‘m not salty because I brought this on myself at full awareness. 5) Mocsta ignored the relationship component too after I had compassion for him 6) He only changed his vote opportunistically when I was at majority | ||
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But I think he‘s blue tbh | ||
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On June 15 2024 10:31 AlphaZero wrote: I think the wagon on dmb developed in a way that mafia were satisfied with it. I think trfel was right on that, IM not really convinced by your argument. mocsta had no reason not to try to bury me if he is mafia. How can you think mafia was satisfied with the dmb wagon while you thought she was mafia and I derailed it and now you think I‘m mafia ? What‘s stopping you from saying we are partnered | ||
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On June 15 2024 10:34 AlphaZero wrote: nothing, i just found the wagon analysis compelling from trfel, as did others apparently. I don‘t believe you. You‘re not the sheep type | ||
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On June 15 2024 10:35 AlphaZero wrote: Honestly I am really scared that I am throwing here, but I have to do what I feel is best you know? It doesn‘t mean the game is over. I wouldn‘t risk it with this much wiggle room. So it‘s acceptable to throw this lynch. It‘s still very valuable information. Make sure you don‘t forget where it came from. | ||
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Unless the above was an honest mistake | ||
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I am ashamed | ||
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That‘s not the same. Can‘t be a pianist on a toy keyboard | ||
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On June 15 2024 10:53 die_meatbaby wrote: You know were the car Keys are. Ypu could get everytime your setup and build it up here. Sorry to say but ypu really don't have do Phone post here all the time There‘s also the component of solitude to get yourself into a mad flow. I can‘t be a good mafia player until I find stability and inber comfort. | ||
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A victory that mafia deserved and earned | ||
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But you get my point.![[image loading]](https://svgsunshine.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Svgsunshine-465-280x280.jpg)
