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On June 08 2024 10:33 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 10:21 rsoultin wrote:On June 08 2024 10:15 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 08 2024 10:06 rsoultin wrote:On June 08 2024 10:04 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 08 2024 10:02 rsoultin wrote:
okay, who i'm not lynching today:
scott, oats, truffle, mocsta, marv
my weakest townreads of those is scott but i get where he's coming from on too many things and i don't like too many people pushing him
everything else is negotiable. i think i'd prefer to lynch into sandy, kelsier and viva
rayn and az i'm not comfy with but don't want to lynch cause i don't trust i'm not just being overly paranoid with them
slam and dmb i don't particularly care about though i'm inclined to sheep marv's sheeping rayn on the slam read why don´t you care about me  cause you haven't posted enough for me to get any sort of read on? i'll let you know if and when that changes why do you think you are paranoid about az? I have this problem with rayn that in every fucking game that we are playing I am reading him wrong. He is mafia I think he is town and the other way around. So it´s really very hard for me to make a opinion on him and i am Paranoid as hell as soon as I think i found his aligment. He is a strong town player but sadly also a strong mafia player. I am scared to make a read on him especially when it´s this early in the game lol same regarding rayn well az reminds me of another player whose scum game consists of buddying top townies (and by this i mean the 'good players' the community here generally listens to) and crawling so far up their asses he goes under the radar. idk that this is the same player but the interchange with marv is giving me those vibes. tbc marv is good, but i guess i mean the people who have the most pull if people are reading them town now i don't know that az's the same person or not so that's not reason enough to scumread him at all. but his view of the game also isn't aligning with mine on several fronts so those two things together earns him the rayn tier of i don't fucking know. i'm hoping if he's town that'll become clear in further discussion lol >< im ok with rayn at this point, mainly because the direction he is leading conversations seem to have aligned with my own points of curiosity. on the other hand i have noticed he appears to be lurking a fair bit (i.e. post increase times with when upper tier players are around). that in itself is not scummy at this point in the game although should be monitored each day as it will increasingly become scummy if activity and direction of conversation diminishes. az, i havent changed my mind on, just view it as desctructive to pursue this cycle.
this is interesting. i know he already said he'd have spotty activity this weekend but it continues to give me good feels about you
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On June 08 2024 11:12 Vivax wrote:
Somehow I hold the belief that if I asked Oats his name in a normal situation I‘d hear him say ‚Hi, I‘m Oafsmaftqh‘ based on his performance in this game.
He has this passive aggressiveness about him and then we have AZ trying to fire him up in very obvious manipulation attempts that are almost comical in their obviousness but the best part is that they seem to work.
Maybe he even believes that he doesn‘t live in a fascist oligarchy and that a red man brings him presents at christmas.
where are you at on the people who didn't vote to lynch you?
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On June 08 2024 11:29 Mocsta wrote:
is there anything that can be made of the lack of mason claim?
to me: i assume scum received whisper and did not use
- main reason being, either mason that is town i believe should have claimed to close out loop with scott situation. by now, there is sufficient reactions / discussion in place that this would be beneficial to town. i have to assume all town would recognise that.
does this point out anything about the scum team?
perhaps that upper tier / mechanic focused player is part of it?
oh i didn't catch that this was at the start of each day...good point. i don't see any reason to keep it quiet either. doesn't mean there aren't any but i don't see it
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it being scum who got it seems a reasonable assumption but inferring who might be on the scum team by it seems like too many assumptions/points of failure? like you could just as easily argue that weak scum players might not want the sort of scrutiny that could come from sitting in a mason qt with a townie who knows for sure it's not alignment indicative
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On June 08 2024 11:50 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 11:40 rsoultin wrote:
it being scum who got it seems a reasonable assumption but inferring who might be on the scum team by it seems like too many assumptions/points of failure? like you could just as easily argue that weak scum players might not want the sort of scrutiny that could come from sitting in a mason qt with a townie who knows for sure it's not alignment indicative Not really sure why you don’t think that’s a strong indicator one of the scum players isn’t confident
i literally just said that in different words oats
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On June 08 2024 12:06 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 11:59 rsoultin wrote:On June 08 2024 11:50 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 08 2024 11:40 rsoultin wrote:
it being scum who got it seems a reasonable assumption but inferring who might be on the scum team by it seems like too many assumptions/points of failure? like you could just as easily argue that weak scum players might not want the sort of scrutiny that could come from sitting in a mason qt with a townie who knows for sure it's not alignment indicative Not really sure why you don’t think that’s a strong indicator one of the scum players isn’t confident i literally just said that in different words oats You say “inferring who might be on the scum team by it seems like too many points of failure” that’s the direct opposite of what I said
-_- ay naku
because mocsta was saying it was a strong scum understanding the mechanics? and while i think mafia having the mason qt seems likely, what exactly will saying it was a weak player net us? or a strong player? what does that say about the scum team composition as a whole? there are so many unknowns there that it just doesn't seem like a fruitful point of inquiry over actually discussing what's going on in the thread
i agree i'd be more inclined to think weak player over strong but that doesn't get me anywhere on who i want to lynch. both can still exist in the team and i think it would be just as misguided to rule out strong players on the scum team as weak because no one's claimed a qt in thread
idk if this helps you at all but i'm not inclined to explain further cause i don't think this gets us anywhere and i feel you're town
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why are you assuming two scum?
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lol ngl i think that makes oats town for stupidass reasons if i didn't already have stupidass reasons to townread him
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i feel like it's prob the thing that's already been brought up numerous times but whatevs, someone else can play the viva tell me what my reads are game
i'm assuming oats you're suggesting that if your scumread flips scum the lack of interaction suggests mocsta may be scum with him and possibly scott too? or am i misunderstanding?
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tbf i am giving viva a bit of a townlean for being like go forth and see what i see to prove thyself! could be townie arrogance that. i don't think it's hard to replicate as scum, but in terms of preferred lynch order that puts him behind others
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On June 08 2024 12:55 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 12:48 rsoultin wrote:
tbf i am giving viva a bit of a townlean for being like go forth and see what i see to prove thyself! could be townie arrogance that. i don't think it's hard to replicate as scum, but in terms of preferred lynch order that puts him behind others Super easy to fake. Would I be correct in assuming your scum game is very good?
i feel it's shit but objectively i've carried my scum team against good players lol >< i'm definitely good at still being active as scum
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On June 08 2024 12:54 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 12:44 rsoultin wrote:
i feel like it's prob the thing that's already been brought up numerous times but whatevs, someone else can play the viva tell me what my reads are game
i'm assuming oats you're suggesting that if your scumread flips scum the lack of interaction suggests mocsta may be scum with him and possibly scott too? or am i misunderstanding? More so those were two pretty significant things that have happened in the game that mocsta seems to have missed
ah i thought you meant interacted with in the thread when you said engaged
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okay, well, this is where i turn into a pumpkin
the little one will be up soon and tbh i can't do another 4 hour sleep day, if only because artanis will murder me if i get sick and land him with all the baby care lolol so i prob won't be around until the last few hours before deadline. toodles folks. prob gonna stick where i'm at unless sandy gets enough traction to be a real lynch, barring anything that substantially changes my reads on him or kelsier of course
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Meh i think az is prob just town and rubbing me the wrong way pfft
Too collaborative with everyone despite us fundamentally disagreeing on shit
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Cause now i have to try and convince someone objectively scummy =/= scum and thats exhausting
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On June 08 2024 20:54 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 20:52 rsoultin wrote:
Cause now i have to try and convince someone objectively scummy =/= scum and thats exhausting Yes yes, everyone knows that.
Yet thats how i perceive your scott case
I also find it genuinely mindboggling how anyone is hard townreading sandy like you and marv are and yet i think you're town so pfft
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Tbf i think the scum in rso/rayn is a good read lolol but pushing rayn also sounds exhausting. \o/ fortunately i rarely see late game so someone else can do it
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On June 08 2024 21:10 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 21:01 rsoultin wrote:On June 08 2024 20:54 AlphaZero wrote:On June 08 2024 20:52 rsoultin wrote:
Cause now i have to try and convince someone objectively scummy =/= scum and thats exhausting Yes yes, everyone knows that. Yet thats how i perceive your scott case I also find it genuinely mindboggling how anyone is hard townreading sandy like you and marv are and yet i think you're town so pfft What makes you think my case is on scummy town rather than scum? Determining this seems purely subjective and is also kind of the point of the game . I don’t see the purpose of this post except to undermine my case on Scott, despite it being framed as needing to “explain” something to me. You can not agree, but you haven’t actually offered much in the realm of proactivity in pushing another read.. I don’t really understand the hard defense of Scott as your direction over offering something better than I have offered.
yeah i don't always post with a purpose lol >< i'm mostly frustrated
i see no point in rehashing why i want to lynch sandy
or don't want to lynch scott
or think kelsier's more likely scum than scott
because i just feel you're gonna be on your but my case is ironclad kick and frankly i don't have the spoons. i agree that his entry looks scummy but i just don't feel that carries the weight you do against sandy literally doing fuck all while everyone's happy to let him skate
regarding your oh no she suddenly had a reads change truffle it's mostly the only reason i had to read kels town is him getting grumpy over multiple people misunderstanding his posts and i empathized but he's got the same problem as sandy and that one tonal thing isn't strong enough for me to townread him. i don't think you are ever capable of bullying anyone out of a thread, least of all kelsier, i just think he doesn't want to play and the longer he does jackall the less likely i think that comes from town
dunnae if that helps
regarding oats idk what to tell you dude. i think you have the same problem with oats that az has with scott
i think he's poking at things that interest him and not caring if that gets him scrutiny. could i be wrong? yeah. on both. but doesn't change i don't want to lynch either of them
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On June 08 2024 21:19 AlphaZero wrote:
At this point there has been nothing stronger than my Scott ‘case’ except for the push on Mocsta.
Which is why it’s so frustrating that people are defending him instead of trying to find the other mafia.
i'm usually better at finding town than mafia, especially d1
different strokes for different folks
understand the frustration though lol ><
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On June 08 2024 21:25 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 21:24 Trfel wrote:On June 08 2024 21:20 AlphaZero wrote:On June 08 2024 21:18 Trfel wrote:On June 08 2024 21:16 AlphaZero wrote:
I want to lynch Scott unless he comes back and shits town flavored rainbows. 🌈
That make sense trfel?? Yes and no, I understand that this is your perspective, but I disagree that doing so makes sense  In my opinion this is the towniest game I've ever seen scott31337 play. I'm just not very inclined to lynch him in it tbh. What do you propose then trfel? Kelsier lynch? It’s almost policy at this point. Yes, I've made it pretty clear that I want to lynch Kelsi3r. I don't think any other lynch is anywhere near as good. I don't think it's policy at all, honestly to me it looks most like either: 1 - he got bullied out of the thread or 2 - he got caught and lost motivation to post Obviously I think it's the latter, though if there is reasoning for the former I am willing to reconsider. Policy is lynching someone for activity or something like that. Kelsi3r was around, walked himself into a hole, got caught, and THEN stopped posting. Very, very different. I don’t think the last part is what happened. I think it’s policy.
it's not policy because it's not just about activity. it's about what he's done while active. i don't think he's done anything interesting at all
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