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On March 05 2024 20:30 Koshi wrote: I need to talk to rayn so he can convince me he is town regardless of his alignment. I am not sure if that's going to happen though. I got annoyed yesterday so i am considering you/Vivax/DP do whatever you want to do. | ||
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I dont understand why JAT keeps complaining about Vivax mayor but cant read anyone as town except Koshi but does nothing about Koshi getiing mayor. Rels doesnt seem to be pushing any agenda. | ||
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On March 05 2024 20:45 iamperfection wrote: I would like a detailed summary of both whisper logs please. I can do that when i am home. | ||
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On March 05 2024 20:59 justanothertownie wrote: Apparently people are dead set on making Vivax mayor. They cannot all be mafia even though I would bet a lot of money that mafia is on board. The logic apparently being Vivax wouldn't make such a bad play as mafia. The disconnect here is that he did the bad play regardless of his alignment but for some reason only town can be bad in people's minds. I disagree with that but I really don't know what to do about it except for complaining and offering a better alternative which is koshi right now. What am I supposed to do in your opinion, rayn? I completely understand your logic here and agree with it. To me it just looks like you are not really trying to do anything about it. Like really really try to do.. | ||
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On March 05 2024 21:32 Koshi wrote: For me Palmar & tfrel need to go. You can swap them out for Hapa and Jealous if you want. But they should be modkilled. It's sad but just unfair after 0 posts. I thought everybody except 3 confirmed? I was one of the 3 that didn't join the discord yet. This is very good. | ||
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Hi. marv says he has complicated timeline, tries to play first 24h in the afternoon M: "20 pages already" R: Yeah 50% of it is DP M: agrees with my iamp and vivax townish reads, then sees i took vivax read back, he still thinks vivax is townish. DMB looks townish, Oats townish, DP looks townish (definitely not telling him that :D) We discuss a little bit about the vivax read. i say vivax is not enough paranoid, marv disagrees it makes him necessarily mafia. i tell him that vivax paranoid level is "MS game DP made a (very good) case on vivax' top scumread, vivax STILL thought DP is mafia with that guy the WHOLE GAME". Marv semi agrees it could mean vivax is mafia, still looks townish tonally, but we'll know better soon enough anyways we discuss a little bit of the DP vs Cake debate, no real conclusions. marv thinks might be townish for Cake to go against DP (or would be insane as mafia, but that doesnt mean Cake isn't insane) I tell marv what i am looking after with my question to cake. marv asks about my slam scumread i tell him i am gonna post it in thread when i am home since phoneposting sucks we talk a little bit about mayor, i say we shoudl elect him, he says he doesnt think town will go for him as mayor anyways since activity issues. he asks me why i am towreading him, i say our reads align very well and the DP thing lol^^ we agree to elect me most likely at second part of D1. marv complains about having issues to read trfel, i tell i have to check something before making a read on him but i think he looked townie. I take back Trfel town read, i had misread something, or thought i saw something that was not there. marv says he is also masons with sandroba. i ask him if he thinks sandroba is town. marv says he thinks i am town and sandroba also looks townie in chat. i tell him to tell sandroba that we are planning on electing me, he says sandroba is on the fence. marv says he still thinks vivax is town, i am coming to agree since vivax' reads look pretty similar to mine, except for sandroba push. we discuss that a little bit and come to conclusion its not a scummy push but definitely wrong. i say that I dont think sandroba's read on Trfel is very good so i kind of understand Vivax there. It is just basically "mindmeld", i don't consider that very good heuristic since scum are going to town read townies all the time anyways, just because Trfel made a same point about MZ that sandroba was thinking should not mean much just by itself. I tell marv he should tell sandroba we need to work together here for mayor election, marv says sandroba seems a bit suspicious of marv. I tell him to tell sandroba that i am very certain of marv being town, and if he thinks i am town he should trust that read. sandroba is still on the fence because he doesnt understand why i townread marv. Vivax claiming JK omg, what the fuck, lol... this game.... slam also claimed cop. I say its not a disaster if vivax is mayor. marv thinks it's a bad idea, what if does something unpredictable for instance shoots sandroba? marv doesnt want to vote for vivax. i quote iamps "moron mayor" post and laugh. marv says thats one of the reasons he thinks iamp is town, he's not that funny as mafia. i say i also laughed at the "i dont wanna be mayor because i dont wanna live that long in this game" post. marv is annoyed at the claiming, i agree, esp as they are people who make weird decisions, worst case scenario is bad. marv is trying to convince sandroba i am best mayor candidate. marv has to leave, but doesnt leave after all :D he tells me to stop arguing with vivax, it doesnt help. marv says Rels' Oats read is super bad, i say i think all Rels' reds so far are bad. I dont know why he would go down that road as mafia though. marv actually leaves for the night. I tell him i am probably just gonna refrain from posting today, and DP, Koshi and Vivax can do whatever they want. I just get annoyed at them. I ask marv why he thinks VE is town. I say Palmar maybe JAT mafia... i have to revisit dmb, trfel, jacob. Everyone else looks more or less town (add VE to maf list here) marv says he doesnt think VE is necessarily town, he doesnt understand why he couldnt play like this as town marv says he talked with sandroba and maybe just elect vivax and not clutter up the thread with that shit anymore marv says VE doesnt look great, takes back the read I tell just elect vivax whatever i say VE can be completely useless as town and i dont thinkthats necessarily alignment indicative for him. I scumread him because he got angry at my post which should not generate that kind of reaction as it was perfectly neutral post. He always does that because he tries to fake his town anger but it is directed in completely unreasonable places. I say Jacob is probably just town because he doesnt realise slam has claimed and the read didnt look fake to me I say yeah Palmar is mafia the end! | ||
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Because we're lynching mafia. | ||
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On March 05 2024 22:43 Palmar wrote: Just so I get it clear. a) Marv votes me and nowhere in your interactions he discusses or mentions the possibility of me being mafia? b) You don't think that's strange at all? Like you say twice I could be mafia, fine. But you don't think it's weird marv doesn't even ponder it in a chat with you? The most important thing he does during the day phase is voting, and he is voting a player he likes and knows very well, and doesn't make a single comment about it? Not weird? marv has not posted anything in the chat after voting for you, aside from answering my VE question and telling me him and sandroba decided to vote vivax for mayor. So no, not really weird. | ||
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On March 05 2024 22:52 Palmar wrote: Let's do a hypothetical, I know you love those and the chances of it ending in us arguing about semantics is close to zero. I die, I flip town. What do you now think of marv (assuming he doesn't post anything else in your topic). I am pretty sure you're not gonna flip town today in case you're town. | ||
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On March 05 2024 23:25 Palmar wrote: Btw I'm like 90% certain sandroba is town now. People don't do this as mafia. He just dropped a post saying I look worse and worse, and then changes his mind like 5 minutes later. It's really hard to come out of an aggressive tunnel like that as mafia, because you kinda have to force yourself to attack someone and when you've spent effort in making an attack on someone you know is town, it's super hard to just throw it away when new evidence presents itself. ergo, I think sandroba is town, and he is now my captain. old news | ||
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On March 05 2024 19:41 Palmar wrote: [...] VisceraEyes Part of me just wants him to be town because I'm happy VE is playing, so I admit it may be an overreaching town read. But it's mostly a tone read. (1): He seems to be happy to be playing the game. (2): He said he wanted mayor and actually made a few follow up posts complaining no one was voting for him. Also this isn't even alignment indicative but it's super good. I have zero interest in lynching VE today. [...] Palmar: 1) Why would VE not be happy to be playing as mafia as "he wishes he was mafia" and two town roles have claimed? 2) Why is this townie? He did absolutely nothing to pursue his mayoral campaign, in fact he did the best to NOT make anyone vote for him by refusing to post a single read on anyone... 3) Why is sandroba super town for his JAT read? I made the exact same read a couple of pages ago. | ||
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On March 06 2024 00:05 Palmar wrote: 1) and 2) I said, it's a little bit of wishful thinking, but there is also just a general tendency of townies to be more carefree and happy than mafia. This is just a fact, because playing town is much easier. Like one of the defining things of mafia is that you have to fake conflict, which almost forces you to be a little bit moody or aggressive or lazy. As town you can just be on your merry way and you will happily bump into conflict. There's no pressure to create reads. 3) I liked his JAT read, but I looved the fact that he also mentioned that my recent posting was indicative. It's the fast paced change of mind that makes me think it looks town. Read above about how mafia has to create conflict. It's hard work and it's mentally expensive to throw it out. Okay to all other points, but "one of the defining things of mafia is that you have to fake conflict" is exactly what i consider VE did. Here: On March 05 2024 06:29 VisceraEyes wrote: What are you expecting rayn? I think most everyone who's posted looks good, most everyone who hasn't looks bad, and you know who I'd kill as mayor, but not who I'd vote to lynch. I'm not going to try and push a lurker lynch because that's fucking stupid as fuck, so I'm going to wait and see what lynch targets emerge. Right now I'm one of them, and I know I'm town, so if it comes to it I'd probably lynch the other guy but otherwise, I'll vote who I think looks worse of the candidates D1. ERMAGERD AND YOU NEEDED ALL THAT SPELLED OUT RIGHT?! Rayn isn't usually this dense, must be mafia. SEE HAO FUCKING STUPID THAT SOUNDS RAYN!?!?!?? classic scum VE post imo, fake rage directed to something that in no way requires such reaction. I mean i just pointed out what he was doing and he even agrees with it himself... | ||
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On March 06 2024 00:09 Palmar wrote: Also I had no idea you thought JAT was mafia rayn, I don't really read your filters. But I mean.... happy we've reached the same conclusion? Friends? I literally posted this after you started posting so i guess you're not really reading the thread either: On March 05 2024 20:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: Rels probably town, JAT maybe mafia. I dont understand why JAT keeps complaining about Vivax mayor but cant read anyone as town except Koshi but does nothing about Koshi getiing mayor. Rels doesnt seem to be pushing any agenda. On March 05 2024 21:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well for instance you could try toget people to actually vote for Koshi, or try to get a read on me, marv, sandroba, iamp, palmar who all are on par with Koshi level. On March 05 2024 21:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: I completely understand your logic here and agree with it. To me it just looks like you are not really trying to do anything about it. Like really really try to do.. | ||
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On March 06 2024 00:13 Vivax wrote: The last time I did that the country slipped into a doctor crisis. that maybe explains you reading me, marv and iamp mafia? | ||
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On March 06 2024 00:18 Vivax wrote: Two of those wouldn't elect a claimed JK mayor but at least you have a motive for that. I cant speak for sandroba but marv thinks youre a loose cannon which is a thought you're kinda enforcing here. | ||
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