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On March 13 2024 15:57 DarthPunk wrote: FFS cake are you scum claiming here again. Like Koshi is your mafia read and you are asking why he was not killed by mafia. No, the answer here is Koshi didnt get killed because he is mafia. Why is it so difficult to understand me? Do i phrase things weirdly or something? I am just asking you those questions to see if we go to the same conclusions. | ||
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DP is not Clear town. The jacob kill also helps mafiaDP to be like “hohohohoho see Jacob gave me a gun I am so town” I really, really tried to work with DP but he just doesnt want to do it, he pretends but he doesnt. Why can I work with people like HF and Rayn when we are all town? Even when we have differences we try to listen to each other and figure out the game using the smartness and the logic of those two and my super ability of town reading ENFJ powers. Like seriously, if you are town why dont you want to work with me? If you are town you should see this world only: if mafia didnt block you when you killed TTS if for a reason. Go ahead, lynch me once me. But I decree when I flip that DP is NOT clearly town. I must be clearly the mafia with the biggest fucking balls in the whole universe. I tried to live in the world you were town, I even wanted to bond as bros and that is why I brought Bluey in the thread so we could talk about it because I fucking love that show and I read you like it, but yeah. | ||
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On March 13 2024 13:33 DarthPunk wrote: Well assuming they have a roleblocker over a strongarm The fact that I got a shot off means that vivax has to be a jail keeper unless from your perspective we are paired Not fighting or anything but how do you know you got shot? | ||
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I think the best thing I can do as town now is to post until I get home and read everything carefully to avoid this. | ||
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I am so good at finding town. | ||
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On March 13 2024 20:13 iamperfection wrote: Cake can you do me a favor and write down a scenario where dp is town. Look at his play in it's entirety and put it in the thread. I am working on this, will be a long post. I am coming to conclusions with is the most realistic world in which DP is town. I dont want to make a mess with several probabilities. All post will be with my perspective of DP town but I will organize my ideas in a pretty way for Koshi’s respect. | ||
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Night 1.- + Show Spoiler + -Jacob gives a gun to DP (Confirmed) That is understandable because Jacob loves DP and trusts him. -Slam checks Oats (Confirmed) -Rayn protected Slam according to Marv, and it fits. We know Marv was town so. -Vivax Jailed DP - Rayn died - Sandro died Conclusion: In my opinion, a mafia vig went for Slam, and Rayn saved him. This is not confirmed, but it is the most likely scenario. I also think Vivax was blocked during this phase. It is not confirmed, but it is very probable. Night 2.- + Show Spoiler + -DP shoots TTS (Confirmed) - Vivax jails slam - Slam dies - Marv dies Conclusion: In this case, it is very likely that Vivax got blocked (duh), and Slam died. This makes me very certain there is a roleblocker. Assuming there is a JK and a Confirmed JOAT, I think balance-wise, there should be a roleblocker, but that is my view of this world. Following this idea (DP town) makes me believe that DP didn't get blocked because 1.- TTS was already getting grilled, and his inactivity would have made him go to the lynch pile instead of VE, perhaps. So, if he died, it was like, meh, besides, he was just "a goon." 2. The Mafia gambled and was very sure DP would shoot either a townie (DMB and I were the ones I remember he mentioned more, apparently I read somewhere he also mentioned VE?) because of how we had been acting the whole game—DP vs. Cake, Cake vs. DP. Point 2 also makes me believe that a Mafia participated in the last game I played and saw the DP vs. Cake that happened there. They are pulling the strings to make us fight, and it doesn't help that my personality and DPs don't get along. It could be his paranoia or my stubbornness; who knows, but I think the Mafia is exploiting this in the worldview that DP is town. Night 3 + Show Spoiler + - Jacob dies This is a bit tricky because I will be assuming things according to what I have seen in the relationship between DP and Jacob so far in this game and the other. DP has shown a soft side for his Aussie boys, TTT and Jacob, who, regardless of whether Jacob is right on his reads according to DP or not in an opinion, DP would take a deep breath and try to think about Jacob's point of view. In addition, Jacob's death does not add any new information to the thread except for confirming that he was the gunsmith and that the crazy theory that got planted of Jacob-DMB-DP does not exist. Most people were already assuming he was the gunsmith; tone-wise, Jacob sounded bubbly, adorable, free, and happy. His enthusiasm was pretty townie. Nevertheless, why Jacob and not DP? DP has a more strong presence. This is from my POV, but it is because the mafia more likely wants DP vs Cake and that we fuck up. Marv is an excellent player, and he was one of the people who said, "DP, Cake, please stop." Jacob also was, "Cake, DP is town," and yesterday he said, "I think Cake is town DP." Killing a confirmed blue role is not surprising. If they had killed DP, Jacob would have been confirmed. Killing Jacob doesn't confirm DP; that is why DP is alive if he is in town. If DP is town, the mafia wants the rest of the townies to have paranoia over DP. Let's say DP gets to lynch me; I flip town; who looks BAD? I would assume DP would get all fuck this shit, fuck you, cake, you played so scummy, fuck I need to rearrange my ideas. If he is town, I would believe he would get extremely frustrated and probably a bit - sad?, maybe - because I think he is like a big bear that is super deadly but also has this - soft - side. I mean, he is friends with Jacob, so I guess he is between TTT (who is super serious) and a little less bubbly and shiny than Jacob. In this scenario, DMB is cleared. I also noticed that people act like vultures around her to see if she does something scummy. So that leaves us with these reads from the top of my head. I want to filter dive them with scrutinity but who am I kidding? I might not be able to do it because - irl - + Show Spoiler + Vivax: I think action activity from the night he is almost clear, Jealous: This one is clouded because he makes me go with two emotions simultaneously. Bothers me a lot; he is like CAKE, HAVE YOU READ DPS GAME, CAKE WHERE ARE THE SCREENSHOTS, like I wasn't lying the I am sad thing, etc. I don't want to post anymore. So I cant read a neutral read. I mean he called me out and make a joke of me and jat being stupid for saying vivax could be mafia and now he is trying to recreate the world in which vivax is mafia, say what? Meapak_Ziphh: I think he is town, this read is by tone and personality. Palmar: I have said enough. But after filtering Koshi with scrutinity I am like ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh justanothertownie: He... exists? Iamperfection: I think he is the most neutral one, trying to scum hunt, agressive in a nice way, there was this thing while reading Oats filter that he seemed also so obsessed with Iamperfection, idk if he was trying to pocket Iamp or what. Like the discussed, it wasnt all butterflies and agreements. Koshi: This one is weird too because I dont know how to take his actions from my close lynch and after that. I also feel like I am a doll here, like a "I told you so she was town you fucking idiots" when I flip town if DP gets me lynched. After that he would try to "drive" the town. Rels: The biggest problem I have with Rels is that he town reads me for the same reasons he scum reads me FROM THE SAME GAME; it should be one or the other. I also think, maybe? He tried to save me because my flip would give DP a new perspective of the game? Me being alive creates more chaos, I must admit. So in conclusion: Koshi/Rels/Someone If DP is town, Koshi fits the "let us make DP and Cake fight" besides there are these posts Koshi claims I am unreadable and then that he has read me once. If he cant read me how is he townreading me so hard atm? On March 05 2024 05:24 Koshi wrote: I am on page 25 right now and I am not getting anything out of it anymore. Oats posts too much to be lynched today. I don't enjoy reading his posts but that doesn't make him mafia. I think he deserves time to develop his play due to activity. Copcake is unreadable. I don't feel like she is hiding though. I just don't get what she is thinking yet. tfrel I will filter right now. He is also in my null pile with all these people but the most in hiding. Slam is being slam. Not going to go further into that. He can stay alive, but if rayn kills him I won't be upset. mebaby made bad posts and a couple sensible posts after that doesn't change that. She is in red territory but won't be lynched most likely because she is active enough. (shouldn't be lynched d1 in such a big game imo) On March 05 2024 06:06 Koshi wrote: page 36 and too angry to continue. But town: iamp cuz town best time was in the first pages and he was a driving factor. dp: I wrote 'good interpretation of DP vs Oats' but that seems incorrect. That being said. I don't dislike your copcake stuff but I haven't read it because it doesn't spark anything in me. I am pretty sure I read copcake really good of one of her first posts in a previous game because she backtracked on a story after being called out. So I am waiting on her to fuck up. She is just playing a different game as me here, but not in a bad way. Vivax I like him MZ Ugly posts, but I can see him being town and him finding his way Null Oats Mafia DMB because bad start TheNewGuy because I don't like that entrance Tfrel because reasoning given. Too safe. marv because he can die Here he tells me DP mafia, later he says DP is town. Just remember this. On March 07 2024 05:43 Koshi wrote: Vivax is never mafia. He is too active, too funny and he is making really good observations. The other 2 are fair game if you want to pursue them. I think DP could be mafia. We should limit his posts to 60 for D2. If he does more we policy lynch him. I think he very well could be mafia shitting up this thread. Here I was considering why Mafia didnt kill Slam, but Koshi threw the shade of - Slam might be not blue and lied - to protect Oats? On March 08 2024 02:28 Koshi wrote: Yeah. Why not shoot slam. Would mafia have known rayn was blue? Because that would make it less likely slam also is blue? But then marv is mafia. Here he thinks DP is town (Remember when he told me DP could be mafia) and comments about me like yeah cake is townie but she can be traitor On March 08 2024 17:11 Koshi wrote: CC is not mafia. Worst case she is traitor and played very cool D1. but at the same time, inmediatly considers Jacob not Gunsmith? If you read DP town, shouldnt Koshi consider Jacob lock town there? Here he also says OATS needs to die but later does everything to save him. On March 08 2024 17:18 Koshi wrote: You have to die because I am too time constrained to reread and get invested. I am quite clueless this game. Those names I posted earlier are my choices but I dont have good reasons. It's more PoE. MZ I think is mafia. Really think he is faking activity when he is here. And he has some towntells he didnt show. (Rage after lynch) Rels is playing a safe scumgame and will be very hard to lynch. Is Jacob confirmed blue gunsmith? Because I also think he might be mafia. Bit if he is blue that is wrong ofc. My townreads are pretty solid I think. (Yes I realise my only towncase this game was on a redcheck) So VE, Dmb, Palmar left (cuz rayn) And then TTS who could be anything. He also uses a lot of emo posts to save OATS On March 09 2024 03:46 Koshi wrote: Oats got to say. You did everything right. If people complain about effort in future games I will post your performance. Solid through entire game and this town has no balls. Yesterday I was proud to be in this town. Today I am ashamed. This is also TMI, like how can you be so sure DP is town? LOL On March 09 2024 07:33 Koshi wrote: Worst math I have seen in a while. If they have a framer, the chance they picked Oats is the only thing you need to calculate. Add the chance of a miller in there and you know the odds. The chance they picked Oats is high because our cop decided to bold his fucking name in his reads post after claiming cop. Chance of Slam not being town and cop is low. Our blues and DP are so fucking bad that mafia has 1 rb and 3 blues to pick from. So I guess 2 die tonight. And no tears will be shred. Then we have these weird sequence On March 09 2024 07:59 Koshi wrote: Copcake mafia would explain the rayn kill I guess. But when I questioned Rayn´s death We also have Koshi calling me mafia many times On March 09 2024 08:00 Koshi wrote: Also me being alive. If cc and Oats are mafia I am basically playing for the mafia team. Add in that I prevented a blue rayn from being Mayor. Ohboi Then On March 10 2024 18:54 Koshi wrote: Lynching Copcake is a mistake. I would prefer ve or anything else that is consistent from marv and rayn filter. He is also this dead person said this BUT these are also better lynches. On March 11 2024 04:19 Koshi wrote: Sandroba spent a decent amount of posts calling me mafia, Oats town and copcake mafia. If we disregard those, not that much is left except that list I quoted earlier. So VE+Rels is mafia. "Only because Sandroba" On March 11 2024 04:26 Koshi wrote: VE Rels MZ DMB All other reads are silly. But if you really want to go there I guess Koshi JAT CC (only cuz sandroba) Palmar (only cuz rayn) Idiotic reads would be: iamp Jacob DP I forgot other people Dude... Stop making DEAD PEOPLE THE REASON OF YOUR LYNCHES On March 11 2024 04:32 Koshi wrote: marv would also always lynched VE over cc. Here he says that Darth barely posts if I understood correctly but another posts he says that should be Policy that Darth shoul not post a lot? On March 11 2024 04:38 Koshi wrote: Ohyeah. Him. Forgot he was in the game. He rarely posts. Stop having dead people do your reads wtf, COME TO YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS On March 11 2024 08:44 Koshi wrote: Only if VE isnt mafia. Why go against rayn marv and sandroba to get this cc lynch? I also noticed with his filter he called MZ several times scummy and suddenly trusts him so hard lol but I am too lazy to go back and quote everything. He also spends a lot of Time calling Rels mafia and suddenly On March 11 2024 19:24 Koshi wrote: Ok so Rels is town and played really good. He also has stuff like this: On March 05 2024 06:36 Koshi wrote: i am 100% with you. rayn marv tfrel can die. We shouldn't do tfrel first. rayn or marv. Let's go big. Some fun fact by one of our scummy confirmed mafia: I was the first vote of the voting thread and it was Oats, second was Oats voting Slam, lol. Looks like that guy knew were to put his fangs because he was also being very creepy with DMB. Oats wanted to mayor Koshi Oats praised Koshi Ok I am tired so ##Vote: Koshi | ||
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Would be stupid of mafia koshi to push mafia palmar. | ||
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On March 14 2024 05:10 iamperfection wrote: What are your reasons for clearing dmb I don't understand. I think I have said it before, the way Oats weird votes on her, the way she is trying and questioning everything, the less drama “Plssssssss lynchhhh meeeee and not HolyFlare” to win towncred, the fact she was one of the people DP wanted to kill. | ||
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On March 14 2024 05:23 justanothertownie wrote: I feel at this point this logic has been debunked several times. Mafia literally could not risk roleblocking dp no matter who he was going to shoot since otherwise they could not kill slam (or even worse get a shot blocked directly at the source). They obviously decided to take the risk since TTS was the most obvious target next to you maybe. This does not clear anybody. Especially if you are town. If you have other reasons for townreading dmb feel free to share though. I take it you are in a mason chat. How much experience do you have playing with Koshi? I answered above and last two games I remember I have played with him I have killed him. | ||
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On March 14 2024 05:36 iamperfection wrote: And I feel like you just went through koshis filter trying to find any inconsistency possible. Also not explaining why said inconsistency makes koshi mafia - Koshi says I am unreadable and then says he can read me, then even dares to say he tone reads me. - Koshi is like Oats I need to kill you and then says “yes, I was wrong about Oats” Oats also wanted to mayor Koshi. - He hardcore townreads DP but suspects Jacob??? Even when he claimed gunsmith? He even says “Is jacob even the gunsmith?” Post #4745 so you can see his reads before Is Jacob confirmed blue gunsmith? Because I also think he might be mafia. Bit if he is blue that is wrong ofc Like I said, if he hardcore reads DP as town, why is he questioning jacob? Like if he thinks DP is town, shouldnt he believe Jacob’s claim? - Many of his decisions are based on dead players: Marv would have liked, Sandro this, Rayn that. I didnt went with the eyes of: I must find scum in Koshi. I didnt like how he reacted to me being lynched then no then yes. Felt like he was trying to prepare the scenario of “I told you so”, which I know, it will happen because I am VT. There are more things quoted, and I am phoneposting atm. I dont think I am going to get on the computer because I am tired and almost midnight. If you think is worth to talk to me please do so. If you think my case is trash ignore me. | ||
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On March 14 2024 06:04 justanothertownie wrote: Your case isn't thrash. For someone else it might even be good. In Koshis case however it just does not really work. You will always find loads of inconsistency and illogical borderline idiotic behavior in his town play. It is also perfectly in line that he sheeps the reads of dead players. Unfortunately, only very selectively and usually the wrong ones. He should be all for what I am doing in respecting marvs read but he isn't. Which is irrational but totally expectable. But how do you explain the Heeyy cake is town, maybe not, maybe yes, if ve is town, if ve is mafia, yes, no. Is that normal? | ||
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Isnt Koshi a top tier player? | ||
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