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On March 09 2024 01:43 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2024 01:35 CopCake wrote:
“I kinda like this thought process”
“Vivax slapping dumb”
“Thought process”
“Thought process” lol wdym
Jelaous asked something to DMB
DMB answered with “vivax is slapping my ass i cant concentrate”
Then jelaous answered in a very serious manner like if he actually read the post and told her “i understand”
The guy who called me crazy and insane just said that “slapping ass” is a very good thought process.
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On March 09 2024 01:31 CopCake wrote:
DMB: “ Also the our major is slapping my ass while i try to translate my thougts correctly. Pls for god sake I have to concentrate Vivax“
Jelaous: “ Okay, now I understand what you were saying before. Thanks for clarifying. I actually kinda like this thought process because at least I get it.”
I love you DMB
Here
I am phone posting. But that is dumbs answer and jelaous conclusion from that answer.
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On March 09 2024 01:29 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 11:33 Jealous wrote:On March 07 2024 11:24 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 07 2024 11:01 Jealous wrote:On March 07 2024 10:51 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 07 2024 10:42 Jealous wrote:On March 07 2024 10:11 die_meatbaby wrote:
But trying to become mayor as mafia is very risky and stupid. Even I understand that.
So does that mean that all of the following have to be town? Vivax (13), raynpelikoneet (3), Oatsmaster (1), Koshi (1) On March 07 2024 10:11 die_meatbaby wrote:
Town dp would feel attacked if you call him mafia and would names reasons why he is not.
Mafia dp plays it of cool, that you don't see the fear of being discovered.
Maybe this is a DP thing, or maybe I'm different from most, or maybe I'm just stupid... But how much evidence can DP have to name reasons for why he is not mafia when we're what, 16 hours into D1? Maybe the volume they put out... but still, let's have a thought experiment: What arguments would you have for your own innocence at this point in the game? On March 07 2024 10:11 die_meatbaby wrote:
Regardless of what I think about cake, but it seems to me that he picks weaker players to annoy until they make a mistake because of beeing annoyd and then he can push the wagon that comes up.
I made an error out the gate (not catching that Alakaslam cop-claimed) and I didn't get my head bit off for it by anyone. It was corrected and we kept it moving. So, I think this point is overblown. If you're not scum, "mistakes" don't magically make you scum, IMO. The mistake itself has to be AI. On March 07 2024 10:11 die_meatbaby wrote:
He waits hours but no body jumps on a cake wagon or he already sees that that wagon will not be successful. So he need to get someelse, but thats good for his record, because Town DP change often his vote just usually with good reasons.
If it wasn't his meta already then I could see this being potentially being true/AI, but because you say that it is his meta... I don't get your point here? On March 07 2024 10:11 die_meatbaby wrote:
Thats the only Post I like. He should play a little bit and then we lynch Ve because thats a vote for active Town
Please clarify your logic here, too. That does not mean that this people are Town for me. It has something to do with my experience of DP's personality. Sorry if I didn´t make that clear. Okay, I can believe that you believe this 👍 On March 07 2024 10:51 die_meatbaby wrote:What arguments would you have for your own innocence at this point in the game? Regardless of my aligment I would not start a fight with dp without having do!!! As mafia I would not do that. That would take the fun away as I had in the last game trying to lynch Palmar  As Town I just to it because I don´t have something more importend in my head. This I am having a much harder time following. If I understand correctly you say that you wouldn't argue with DP regardless of your alignment, then you say you would not do it as mafia, and then you say you would do it as town? Perhaps this will be easier, allow me to rephrase: In this specific game, what can you point to as being reasons for why you are town by the 16 hour mark?I'm just struggling to understand what your ideal response from DP would be here. If someone put me on the spot like that, frankly I'd just be like: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/0KMBuIS.png) On March 07 2024 10:51 die_meatbaby wrote:
And the Ve post is good
He doesn´t really want to play anymore because we always lynch him early.
Compassion would be the best description The way you responded to it is "let them play, then lynch them because they are an active townie," which doesn't make much sense to me as "compassion"? As Jacob said above, that almost sounds like a scumslip, but I am sure I must be misunderstanding something or you misspoke. Starting a discussion with Dp with my English, his ambition and his never-ending questions get on my nerves. I would never voluntarily start a discussion with him if I didn't have to and the only reason I do it is because he is my main scum read. Being scum was really fun for me and that would take the fun out of it ergo I can not be scum Also the our major is slapping my ass while i try to translate my thougts correctly. Pls for god sake I have to concentrate Vivax On March 07 2024 11:29 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 07 2024 11:10 Jealous wrote:On March 07 2024 11:03 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Hmmmmm in your opinion Jealous.
Sure mistakes happen but do you think DMB's "mistake" and reaction to it (not noticing we were even pointing out the mistake for ages) is more or less suspicoius than Koshi's "Mistake" and reaction to it. (ignoring it entirely and being like I'm town fuck you)
I think that both are NAI. I wouldn't even call Koshi's "mistake" that. As someone else told you, I consider "if" and "when" to almost colloquially interchangeable in that context. DMB's mistake reads as far more damning to me but there are mitigating factors and I think that even some as seemingly erratic as them wouldn't have brought it up just to slip up like that, IMO. I'm more concerned about the fact that most of what they wrote that wasn't a mistake felt pretty weak to me. This is their best case on their strongest scum read, and now they are too lazy to stick around, because "I don't wanna be town I wanna be mafia"? That's hella weak IMO. I can see a genuine town doing that, I guess, kinda like how we have people who didn't vote and aren't posting for various reasons. However, I also see it as sufficient reason to keep them on my lynch list, because mafia isn't precluded from claiming laziness after flailing under some light pressure. I put myself under pressure to start that shit with dp. I know i couldn´t handle that as well as I should so why should I do that as mafia? I knew he gonna give me a lot of pressure more then all the other players would, so again why should I start that and not just take someone easyer do try do lynch and go more with the crowd thoughts. Why even start with the master? I would not be that stupid as mafia Okay, now I understand what you were saying before. Thanks for clarifying. I actually kinda like this thought process because at least I get it. Good to know Jelaous is a very serious person that finds the logic of Vivax slapping DMB logical to determine her alignment .
Whole net of quotes.
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Jelaous is just pretending to care to have reads, complains about people derailing the thread, but he considered “vivax slapping dumb” a very good answer.
I think he doesnt care about reads but just wants to look “good”
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On March 09 2024 02:00 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Copcake now voting jealous is why I was trying to figure out how serious she was when she said something to the effect of "guess Oats is scum bc of the NKs" I'm phone posting at work otherwise I'd try and quote it but it happened after my initial conversation with her yesterday morning.
I never called Oats scum…
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In fact, me and oats are pancakes twinsies.
We have been vibing.
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On March 09 2024 02:06 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 14:06 CopCake wrote:
So in conclusion
oats is either mafia or miller. I would go mafia for Rayn’s death.
So
##vote: Oats Hi cake, what is this?
Oh my bad, I forgot.
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Btw I refuse to take my vote on Jelaous.
He was an ass to me but “Vivax slapping my ass” is a good thought process.
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On March 09 2024 02:21 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2024 02:15 CopCake wrote:
Btw I refuse to take my vote on Jelaous.
He was an ass to me but “Vivax slapping my ass” is a good thought process. I have no idea what you’re on about tbh.
Jelaous asked questions to dmb to understand her
Dmb said vivax was slapping her etc etc
Jelaous said ok I likr that thought process
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On March 09 2024 02:29 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2024 02:27 CopCake wrote:On March 09 2024 02:21 marvellosity wrote:On March 09 2024 02:15 CopCake wrote:
Btw I refuse to take my vote on Jelaous.
He was an ass to me but “Vivax slapping my ass” is a good thought process. I have no idea what you’re on about tbh. Jelaous asked questions to dmb to understand her Dmb said vivax was slapping her etc etc Jelaous said ok I likr that thought process So? Like I’m positive there has been some misunderstanding here, but even if there wasn’t, why is it a mafia thing to say or do that? You think mafia want to look like idiots?
Jelaous was like absolutely too mean to me. To the point I almost quit the game for that.
He said I spoke bullshit,
How is “Vivax is slapping me” a good answer?
I think they are partners.
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On March 07 2024 03:43 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 00:12 marvellosity wrote:On March 06 2024 23:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 06 2024 23:39 CopCake wrote:On March 06 2024 23:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 06 2024 23:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 06 2024 23:34 iamperfection wrote:
Cop might just be dumb. I felt like dmb knew trfels alignment ignored me multiple times when I said the play was different. Trfel themselves admitted they were playing bad
yes i am more sure of dmb being mafia here, but cake still said: 1) vivax/dp/iamp changed the lynch from palmar (for no reason as mafia) 2) dp pocketed palmar (and palmar is not town) it does not sit well with me. i just cant wrap my head around it... i dont understand how she is trying to explain this now (she has), if someone can read that to me so i can understand it it would be really nice. You just dont want to understand. 🫨 that's just wrong. im the fucking best town player in this game with JAT even if i am wrong on you and those plebs almost lynched him. Rayn listen to me for a moment please. You’re doing this thing you always do where something doesn’t make logical sense to you and drawing the conclusion it must come from mafia. I think it’s really quite unlikely CC is mafia. Her play feels quite different to when we were mafia. There I struggled to get her to do much other stuff than defend herself. Which is fair enough. Here she has a bunch of crazy opinions and is constantly sticking her neck out. The simple explanation is she is super into the game and is thinking about things in a way you don’t grasp and doesn’t make sense to you. She’s playing like some blend of town Koshi/Vivax. Just consider it for me please I don't want to get too in the weeds here but this is part of my frustration/desire to just lynch CopCake and call it a day. Basically, if we assume the following: town!CopCake = Does weird RP, gets reads from tea leaves and the phases of the moon while Mercury is in Gatorade, and says stuff like "I am bad town but good mafia so that somehow makes me good for town", then I'm not really getting much out of their interactions, they are not pushing the game forward, and I don't see any reason to keep them around. This doesn't make them the scummiest, but it's just a less schizo Race Bannon. ... and... scum!CopCake = Does weird RP, gets reads from tea leaves and the phases of the moon while Mercury is in Gatorade, and says stuff like "I am bad town but good mafia so that somehow makes me good for town", then I'm not really getting much out of their interactions, they are not pushing the game forward, and I don't see any reason to keep them around. This doesn't make them the scummiest, but it's just a less schizo Race Bannon. So QED CopCake, even if town, is being more of a hindrance than a beneficial force. However, I will admit I like what her posting brought out of rayn in my absence, so perhaps I am being a bit too harsh here. Then again, it feels more like rayn putting a lot of work to untangle what CopCake is saying, more so than CopCake saying good things, IMO. TL;DR: I can be convinced to lynch vote someone else with a strong case against them, but CopCake's interactions so far make me think this might be a good lynch in general.
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On March 09 2024 06:35 Palmar wrote:So, I'm going to finally make the case you've all been waiting for. [b] raynpelikoneet is scum[b] The entire case hinges on two points. There is some other weirdness in his postings, but those are by far the most important ones Point 1 - rayn demands, twice and in all caps, that I make a case on VivaxThe reason this is important is because it clearly implies rayn never actually read my filter Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 22:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
WHERE IS YOUR FUCKING CASE ON VIVAX, PALMAR? Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 22:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 06 2024 08:55 Palmar wrote:
I'm finalizing here.
I like a bunch of mafia in:
rayn
jat
rels
mz
tts
then there's gonna be some mafia in the people who should be killed on policy
vivax
trfel
hapa
then there's the people that need constant monitoring and need to improve
iamp
marv
jealous
copcake
slam
ve
and finally we have the people I have somewhere from mild to good reasons to think are town
sandro
oats
dp
dmb
jls
koshi
None of the lists are in any particular order
I don't really think Trfel will flip mafia. It's just a "I believe in people" read that he wouldn't fuck off like that as mafia with the whole "If I get lynched I get lynched" thing. But it's an objectively good lynch so I'm not going to fight it all that hard. Leaving my vote on jat. I've been burned before by placing too much faith in people not doing crazy things as mafia so it's whatever. where is your case on vivax? But the problem is, I had explained my stance on Vivax multiple times in the thread. Like I'm actually kinda annoyed with myself for how often I repeated that same point. Here's a link to a post where I summarized me repeatedly expressing the same stance on Vivax. https://tl.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=28152997In conclusion. rayn considers me his #1 lynch target but hasn't actually read my filter and doesn't know my stances. Point 2 - rayn refuses to acknowledge that I don't think and play like himThis one is a little more nuanced to explain, especially to people who weren't involved in the last game we played, but for context here's the gist of it. On day 3, I am town and kinda think rayn may be town. rayn is however mafia and is tunneling me as an established scumread. The most significant post here is this: Show nested quote +On December 16 2023 22:59 Palmar wrote:On December 16 2023 22:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Palmar can you make a post about why it's reasonable to assume i am mafia with (1) sandroba or (2) holyflare? I don’t make associative reads In the same way as he does this game for the mason thing, rayn demands a townread because I have other people that aren't him as possible mafia, and then claims it's impossible that they could be scum together. To me, this is a clear logical fallacy, because it assumes that I'm always right on my scumreads other than rayn. I explain this even further here in the last game. Show nested quote +On December 17 2023 01:24 Palmar wrote:On December 16 2023 23:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 16 2023 23:33 Palmar wrote:
Rayn, I’m not going to read your entire filter because I don’t hate myself. But I did open it and read from the bottom up. I can’t remember if this is something you normally do but you’re spending almost no effort on forming town reads. The best I could find was like “maybe marv is just town” and something like that.
Like have you at any point in this game tried to argue that someone is town? Do youthink that's something that makes me mafia? I mean like its probably the easiest thing to do as mafia, call townies town for correct reasons. I also heavily abuse that fact as mafia. I dont care if you do associative reads or not. I find it suspicious that the people who i sm literally the least likely to be mafia with ate the ones you geoup with me being mafia with snd just sit on that. Also i disagree that i had no influence on the game. Its true i have not been as active as usual. But i was a key factor to almost change the lynch from Vivax to sandroba D1, and i also believe i was one of the key votes to lynch Chezinu. In order cause phoneposting. Not necessarily but it’s different from what I do. I said I can’t remember if it’s normal for you. Again, I don’t think this way. Maybe I’m wrong on something. Maybe mafia is playing lone wolf. I just don’t care at all who is likely to be mafia with who. It has no impact on how I think about any game. You HAVE been active. You have one of the longest filters in the game. You just haven’t been influential. So given that we literally had this discussion last game, rayn's claim THIS game that I must be mafia because I refuse to think in associations like he does means he has to be scum himself. Not because he doesn't know my playstyle, that's actually completely acceptable he's mafia because he's reminded that I just explained my playstyle to him last game, I play like I always do again, and remind him that's how I think, but he still refuses to listenThis means he doesn't WANT to listen, and his objective isn't actually finding out my alignment, just wants to kill me. In conclusion: raynpelikoneetI mean the only other option is that he's a moron.
Rayn is dead and JOAT
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On March 09 2024 11:47 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2024 11:33 DarthPunk wrote:On March 09 2024 11:29 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 09 2024 11:24 iamperfection wrote:
hes just saying either or do they not speak English in Australia. the just speak annoying kangorisch there We speak the kings English more than the Americans do that is for sure. Which is a very different English, kinda like this vosotros shit I am being taught with my high school students Teneís? Really? When is that even useful?
Those words are only used in Spain, is not neutral language.
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Let it be known I think the mafia team is Palmar, DP, jelaous, etc
Ill be voting Ve to save oats
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On March 09 2024 11:52 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
And now cake is voting VE with still no posts here lol
I posted and quoted palmar
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On March 10 2024 12:43 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2024 12:41 Rels wrote:
With this out of the way, going to bed. Very interested to see how CopCake handles this (still thinks she's town but interested nonetheless) How can you think that? She‘s like the witch doctor on team dire at this point. Just going in wolololo at the game when she posts.
##vote: copcake
I am town but
I want to quit the game, I am not enjoying it like I tend to do it.
Rayn might get a bit annoyed but I am a sensitive person and if I do not like something, I just quit. Same happened when Slam was having a difficult moment, I felt bad so I wanted out.
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On March 10 2024 15:14 DarthPunk wrote:
Do you have any ideas about who is what alignment cake if you are town?
I will leave you with these questions
Night 1 .- two deaths (mafia vig/mafia kp?)
Night 2.- three deaths (mafia kp/ gunsmith shot/town vig????)
Town vig didnt happen on night two more likely, because confirmed cop death and townread by all death.
So we have two cases:
Town vig killed either rayn or sandro
Town vig TTS
If you are the guy with the gun, then town vig killed night 1.
So we have 6 blue roles.
- jailkeeper
- cop
- gunsmith
- veteran???
- town vig
- joat
For you, if you are town and got a gun, veteran and gunsmith should be confirmed.
So only jailkeeper is not confirmed for you.
The questions are:
1.- Is it a balanced game to have 6 blue roles?
2.- Did I understood correctly the roles of a single shot for mafia vig/ town vig?
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Why are not playing normal set up?
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On March 10 2024 17:29 DarthPunk wrote:
Cake is your take that I am still mafia seriously?
How deeply tunnelled are you?
I didnt say that, I think killing tts confirmed you. I was thinking on the night kills but then I read that there are two the first two nights.
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On March 10 2024 17:19 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2024 15:05 CopCake wrote:On March 10 2024 12:43 Vivax wrote:On March 10 2024 12:41 Rels wrote:
With this out of the way, going to bed. Very interested to see how CopCake handles this (still thinks she's town but interested nonetheless) How can you think that? She‘s like the witch doctor on team dire at this point. Just going in wolololo at the game when she posts. ##vote: copcake I am town but I want to quit the game, I am not enjoying it like I tend to do it. Rayn might get a bit annoyed but I am a sensitive person and if I do not like something, I just quit. Same happened when Slam was having a difficult moment, I felt bad so I wanted out. This is not about liking or disliking something. You have a sacred duty to your team that you must fulfill. We do not get to choose the battles but we must fight, because we’re not fighting for ourselves but something greater.
Last game rayn was mafia i asked him why he didnt concede (i would), that kinda feels like a responsability, that doesnt change my feelings for the game (would be confirmed after i get lynched)
I admit I have played very bad but it is what it is.
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