Winter Warfare Mafia

To be honest I am having a hard time figuring out what raynpelikoneet is getting at here. But the point is that he is suspicious of Holyflare and thinks he is mafia for two reasons. If I recall correctly, this didn't gain much momentum and I am interested to see how exactly raynpelikoneet reacted to that.I do like the followup. It may not be what I'm used to from raynpelikoneet (no shouting) but it's still solid, I'll take it.

Surprised he doesn't include sandroba, given the discussions he had and some suspicions shared, but I don't know if it's super alignment indicative other than possible TMI that sandroba is town but that's on pretty sketchy ground. This is post #412, at this point die_meatbaby's only post in the game is this:Which really sticks out to me. I'm very surprised that raynpelikoneet would include die_meatbaby in the best lynch list, alongside Holyflare, who he is strongly scumreading, and more than sandroba, who he is suspicious of. Why not include Chezinu, if it's a pure policy? This by itself isn't the most incriminating (though I do think it sticks out) but I'm very interested to see what he thinks about policy lynches/Chezinu lynch later. If he's one of the people that speaks out against policy/gamble lynches then this looks decently suspicious to me.Unless raynpelikoneet actually thought something about this is suspicious?And also suspicious of Vivax? It's possible there is a line of reasoning/association I am missing here, but this doesn't seem like a town thought process to me. Yet he never voted for Vivax.

Raynpelikoneet ended up switching from Holyflare to sandroba at end of day to save Vivax, seeing that Vivax had been active. This is understandable, as he'd been out for a while and was just coming back with 13 minutes until end of day.Here I'm very surprised that die_meatbaby ended up not on this list? Wasn't raynpelikoneet saying we should lynch her earlier? To be fair she'd only made one post at that time, by now she'd posted more, but this means there must have been something that raynpelikoneet liked about die_meatbaby's posts. This is post 1195, before this point what did die_meatbaby do? Answer: just a page and a half of filter. I'm going to assume that the (presumed) townread is for being around at EoD and trying to save Vivax. This is reasonable ish I suppose.Here's the explanation. I actually think this makes sense, this is actually a very valid point. Props to raynpelikoneet.So Chezinu is more than just a policy...Says Palmar may not be town. I don't quite follow the reasoning but it seems understandable that raynpelikoneet could think this.Still confident in sandroba being mafia.Still confident in sandroba.
Confused by what raynpelikoneet was talking about in the post about lynching Vivax, maybe it was a joke that I missed? Because I generally thought you lynch people you are scumreading...Ends up voting for Chezinu. No reason given.This is interesting. Suddenly actually thinks Chezinu is mafia:That wasn't what I got before, I thought he only had one thought on Chezinu other than seemingly POEing him? To be fair it's possible that that one thought was enough here.Raynpelikoneet stands by this. I don't know if this logic for reading Chezinu makes much sense, but that doesn't matter, all that matters is if raynpelikoneet thinks it makes sense, and that I cannot say.How impactful raynpelikoneet was in getting Chezinu lynched has already been debated for a while, I don't care to argue about that. I am interested though how important raynpelikoneet thought his own vote on Chezinu was, like how passionate he was about it. Because I didn't get a ton of passion. His scumreads have felt fairly static this game to be honest.

Then he seems to think that Koshi could be mafia.Then surprised that Koshi or I aren't worth considering? Or sandroba? He said that the game is likely solved, but it seems like there are a lot of people he is still suspicious of here?
This was pretty funny.But they aren't on his scum team and the game is solved? Confused.

I thought Holyflare made a post about this but I can't seem to find it. It must have been someone else. Die_meatbaby has been scumreading Palmar the whole game, it's been quite the anti-Palmar crusade. However, she hasn't actually made any efforts to trying to lynch Palmar. She didn't even vote for Palmar until late day 3!

Sure, die_meatbaby was scumreading Palmar night 1, and seemed pretty upset about it night 2. But when it actually comes down to it, die_meatbaby seems exceptionally content to vote for people other than Palmar, while Palmar is by far her biggest scumread. This doesn't match the mindset of someone who has been dead set on lynching Palmar this whole game.

If you doubt this, read her filter yourself, or check the vote thread. When it's time to vote, die_meatbaby doesn't seem to care if Palmar lives or dies.

This has become more clear towards the later portions of the game. Look at this series of posts after the day 3 lynch:So, Palmar is mafia. Sandroba was saved by Chezinu when he voted for Vivax, which means sandroba is mafia, right? But Trfel is also maybe mafia! But there are only two members left alive for mafia?Suddenly posting about raynpelikoneet as well. Is she suspicious of him also? That makes four mafia in a two player game.And here goes marvellosity and Alakaslam too.

Please understand, it's not scummy to be suspicious of lots of people. The suspicious thing is the lack of desire to figure out which suspicious people are actually mafia and which are town. Die_meatbaby is very content to just have everyone as suspicious, which is extremely mafia motivated and shows no desire to solve the game.
She's just coming up with whatever reason to be suspicious of anyone that she can, here it relies on me being town. This all makes no sense from a town perspective.

Die_meatbaby is very angry and emotionally invested. But you don't see that investment in actual scumhunting. If someone is angry, if they are spending a lot of energy in the thread, it's because they care about the game, and thus presumably want to find mafia and win. But you don't see die_meatbaby trying to figure out people's alignments on anywhere NEAR the same magnitude as she is emotionally invested. Lots of the quotes above support this, or you can read her filter.

She finds lots of things suspicious but doesn't seem to care to figure out who is actually mafia and who isn't.