[M][T] Personality Mafia: Mini Edition

On January 11 2021 16:47 yamato77 wrote:
Alright friends, I promised I would catch up and actually play the game a couple times already and I am here to make good on that promise. I haven't read much of anything since the start of Day 1 so I have a lot of catching up to do. It's currently midnight my time and I still have to work tomorrow. I'd like to establish my thoughts on the game in case I die, and this will likely be my last opportunity to do so before deadline tomorrow.

I am going to type a lot in this post. I don't currently have the luxury of "interacting" with people so there's a lot I need to process, and the best way for me to do that is to write it out. I'd like to establish my thoughts on most of the claims made in the game, all of the actual roles used on Day 1, and obviously my analysis of how the lynch happened and what that says about players' alignments. I'm sure at this point in the game there is likely enough to go on that I should have a few decent townreads and at least one confident scumread.

Lastly, before I get to my reread and my reactions to things that have happened in my general absence, I want to clarify some of the statements I have made previously in my brief and direct filter. I obviously thought Wave was mafia early on based on his N0 posting (very fluff, mostly about setup and whining that people weren't playing like him) and his start to D1 where he concluded that a no lynch was the most viable path forward and took some amount of convincing otherwise. Then he scumclaimed, albeit for an instance of this game that doesn't necessarily apply anymore. However, I do not see the town motivation to scumclaiming in Dandel's game. My current read (before I read D1) is that Wave is playing to disrupt useful discussion and generally be unhelpful in actually forming a cohesive idea about the game and finding a good lynch, which I obviously think is a mafia motivated playstyle. He could also just be "playing around", but that is a convenient excuse for scumWave to fall back on/

Likewise, Conversion's playstyle has only served to create chaos and disrupt the thread. His multiple fakeclaims and his dud of a nuke on myself helped nothing. If he has reads I don't know them, and I stand by my statement saying and I would nuke him. Being a troll and mafia are not mutually exclusive, as it turns out. I didn't like JAT's early posting but as I stated earlier in my filter, I have not caught up on how he has played in some time.

I liked Vivax' posting and thought process, and I obviously believe his claim, which makes me heavily question HF and his counterclaim. I hope some light was shed on this conundrum in my absence.

Now, obviously we all know GB is town now, and I am not here to simply say "I told you so", even though I already did. My initial thought about his lynch, again, having not caught up, is that it might have been a bandwagon led by a strong mafia player given a weak town presence in pushing a lynch. Some of the blame for that inevitably falls at my feet for largely ignoring the game, as Wave pointed out, but nonetheless I feel as if there was some malfeasance going on there. That said, I will not simply call the first person to vote GB mafia without at least attempting to understand how the lynch actually happened, these are just my thoughts as someone who saw a person he thought was fairly town get lynched.

Now, TO READ


This post sticks out to me as another stinker. I think a Vivax lynch is inherently scum favored and obviously a no lynch is as well. Obi goes to the shit pile for me.


This is also a tangent that I find appalling. Slam's push of an impossible lynch on Dandel for a flimsy reasoning about the use of his role is something that I think any town player would quickly and rightly ignore. Hopefully Slam realizes his mistake at some point.


My gut reaction to this is "then find some fucking mafia instead of no-lynching and claiming scum". I usually don't mind survival plays but I also really don't like how hard Wave is working to not have scumreads up to this point in the game.


Going back in time, I wonder if this is the impetus for the GB lynch? It's not bad reasoning IMO if that's what people sheep off of since I think this heuristic is somewhat useful but GB also has reads outside of wanting to lynch Vivax, which I think is an important corollary to the concept. A mafia "hunting" 3p is one thing, a townie not believing a 3p claim is another. GB is not what one might call an optimal player given that he began the game with a scumread on me. Alas, this is an aside.


HF's dismissively brief posting like this irks me, and especially here as a train is forming on Wave that HF himself has at least egged on.





It's also quite frustrating that this gets sheeped immediately by two other people for apparently no reason.


I disagree with a lot of this post and I can feel things turning against GB here, especially given his simultaneous decision to push a lynch on Vivax.


Truly this is a confusing post tho. If HF counterclaims Vivax in rolename, why does he not want to see him lynched? That's a question I hope gets answered.



I guess Slam did realize his mistake? But he couldn't switch his vote for RP reasons... not in love with that, but it sounds like something he would do.


Wave clearly doesn't actually think I'm mafia but he's somehow using my activity as a defense of his own lack of reads when I definitely had more posted reads than him in a fraction of the filter? Good lord.



Wave's 1 actual read is a meta read that Obi is mafia and he literally refuses to play the game despite other people trying to push decent ideas on him.

In the last few pages Conversion made a decent case (I hate to admit) on TickTock that HF echoed and I really wish the lynch had gone in that direction. Wave's excuse for not voting him is his interactivity, but I think that a lot of his posts are seemingly rhetorical questions to get people to reiterate what they've already said in their posts.

I also agree with Conversion's suspicion of Shockey, fwiw. So maybe my fake murderer is JUST a troll and not actually mafia himself.

That said, I would expect a town GB lynch to include some mafia on the wagon SO we'll see.



This post of Wave's I actually like. First one this game I like, and his reads are somewhat close to mine. I still don't think JAT is all that townie up to this point and I would be much less suspicious of GB but the rest of it is ok. His scumread of Obi, tho, is not something I really want to dissect. Seems like a huge waste of time. If Obi's mafia it's not because he made a weird post in a QT.





A literal 1 for 1 recreation of the earlier posting pattern that actually morphs into a real train on GB. I sort of have to believe there's mafia here, and right as of this moment it feels like JAT.


Or maybe this is the mafia. Together with Vivax these are all the votes on GB I believe, and we can expect

I would not be upset if Shockey dies. This likely also means that HF's "counterclaim" of Vivax was fake. Idk why he did this but at this point it's not nearly enough to make me suspicious of HF.

Most of N1's posting is largely irrelevant. Eversince's absence is concerning but not wholly damning. The tone of Eversince's posts is townish. Otherwise I see Shockey being mafia and TickTock analysis Dandel's role (which I think a mafia would really want to do)

That said, Dandel really needs to do something besides discuss his own game at this point. It is not material to the actual game we are playing now. Effectively, he removed himself from the lynch for a day and had some memey flavor. Ha ha. Time to find mafia.

I agree with general thread sentiment on TickTock and Shockey. I trust JAT much less than most people however. Wave is probably bad town. HF is probably town but if there's a sneaky mafia it's him. Conversion is probably town. Obi is town-ish for me but I strongly dislike how easily he sheeped onto GB.

I trust Vivax' claim. I don't think it's worth trying to lynch him for some time.

If I had to guess about Slam's alignment this game I would say town but really who knows. I think that's just about everyone in the game.

This read took me a little over an hour. I don't think I'll be around too long to respond to anything but this should be sufficient to explain my current thought processes and how I view the game going forward. I think there's a strong possibility that a good town cohesion forms from this post and we lynch the sus people. I don't really want to post this at night since mafia could easily choose to shoot me after this but they might already or Obi could have KP and wish to kill me SO here you go.