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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21966 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-19 21:30:00
November 19 2020 21:28 GMT
#14
/in

On November 16 2020 18:27 GreYMisT wrote:
Since when have you been a mod? Nice to see you


Someone at TL probably thought it'd be a funny pun if you get banned by FecalFeast for posting excrement
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21966 Posts
November 23 2020 22:30 GMT
#69
This setup is town of salem, almost.
TickTock are you claiming survivor? I'd lynch the survivor claim on D1, later maybe not.

On November 24 2020 05:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Let's be bold and say that TT is town this game.


Why?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21966 Posts
November 23 2020 22:40 GMT
#72
The loosely posting thingy? Yep that's a bold read, not what I thought of first when I see him claiming something black.
Fefes reaction felt more akin to mine. He can be town for today.

Whether I want to be mayor largely depends on someone being willing to do more legwork and have a good track record.
Hapa comes to mind if he doesn't scum around too much.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21966 Posts
November 23 2020 23:01 GMT
#76
TT is probably not survivor. Survivor would claim N1, assuming he's rational.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21966 Posts
November 24 2020 14:28 GMT
#164
Slam intersecting between rayn + Hapa in a way that seems to favour Hapa strikes me as scummy along with saying he wouldn't run as mayor when mafia. Trying too hard to be the nice guy imo.

Not happy with the volume of Fefes posts so far but purely format-wise it's what I'd expect from town Fefe (lazy posts). But maybe he learned to emulate that as scum, so I'll just leave it at a request for him to post more, especially if he wants to be mayor.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21966 Posts
November 24 2020 14:34 GMT
#165
Grack is making awesome posts so I don't even care what he is, but I need to make up my mind on this mayor thing, I did have a tendency to get N1d over the last 10 games or something like that. And while Grack earned my favour, I can't rule out he's mafia at this point and I don't want a mafia mayor.

Also that reminds me of Slam's comment that mafia wouldn't want the mayor spot or something like that (if I'm not confusing something because I'm not bothering to double check). Add that to his list of sins because it's nonsense imo.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21966 Posts
November 24 2020 14:37 GMT
#166
To conclude, I need to go grab some thingies and while at it decide if I want to run. Also skipped over reading Trfel, Jock and a bunch of other stuff. See you in a while.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21966 Posts
November 24 2020 15:15 GMT
#169
On November 24 2020 09:29 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2020 09:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 24 2020 09:15 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 24 2020 09:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 24 2020 09:12 Alakaslam wrote:
Why is hapa NOT campaigning then?

Now this is actually a townie question i have been waiting anyone to ask.

Well

Yeah which is why you wanting it to be you or him was sus as hell but then Trfel came and put his pants on his head and shat on the carpet so I was too busy going “wtf” at that.

Plus the occam’s razor hamblin’s razor whichever one.

I dont know if you realised it but i have been kinda being after this from my first post to him. I guess i can reveal my this thing: now.
On November 24 2020 06:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay, we'll see about that later on then. Then i am also not gonna post the follow up i was going to yet.


I dont really think Hapa is town atm. I think he should at least maybe have some reads he doesnt atm.



On November 24 2020 10:00 Alakaslam wrote:
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On November 24 2020 09:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont know what is it about gamewise but i like rush hour. :D

Yep

Basically you went and pushed that button man


On November 24 2020 10:02 Alakaslam wrote:
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On November 24 2020 09:57 Hapahauli wrote:
Regardless if you take offense or not, that was uncalled for on my part. I do feel as if the "theme" of our last few games played is that you attribute certain qualities to my very early-game town plan, I do not meet those "expectations", and I get called mafia for a longer period of time than I would prefer.

It is a bit of a self-meta thing, but I tend to dislike making any sort of concrete reads in the early game unless I am very confident in the read. Once I articulate a read, I find it very mentally difficult to go back and re-evaluate it seriously. Hence, I keep my reads "notepad", but I do avoid posting every little one in thread, lest I inadvertently commit myself to a town read for bad reasons.

Regarding Mayor... I kinda don't want to run? It's a lot of responsibility, and I tend to enjoy games more where I am not forced to take a leadership role. If it becomes apparent that there is no good choice for mayor, I will likely campaign for myself. But I'd like to avoid that if possible.

By the way, this doesn’t make hapa scum

It’s just that I don’t know why he doesn’t want to run as town. Or if I do know, for some reason, I don’t exactly want to draw attention to that possible reason.

Anyway. I’m running gib vote pliss


Don't even know where his Hapa townread came from. He's very one sided in his argumentation here.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21966 Posts
November 24 2020 15:20 GMT
#171
I mean, it's not an outright townread. But to me it looks like his entire approach only makes sense if he does at least believe he's town. Starting with what looks like banter to trying to find out why he isn't running.

Top it off with him saying mafia wouldn't run, shouldn't he be more wary here? This it looks like he was trying to please him, or maybe you, in some way. For the sake of.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21966 Posts
November 24 2020 15:22 GMT
#172
Anyway I don't want to call him mafia before I've read everything. Going to get to that now.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21966 Posts
November 24 2020 15:40 GMT
#177
On November 24 2020 08:21 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2020 05:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Let's be bold and say that TT is town this game.
I have to agree with you, that is quite bold indeed
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2020 08:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Youre wrong.
Fair enough, I suppose we'll see eventually.

In other news, I kinda like Alakaslam this game. Which likely means he's mafia, he has a tendency to be the opposite alignment of whatever I think he is


If possible, I think it may be wise to control the votes such that all of the votes are on the same person, thus making there no Pardoner as there is no one in second place (or would it then be randomized... so many questions). Though unfortunately that seems very difficult to control, and if it's possible to vote for oneself, it may be worthwhile for mafia to ninja vote because it would take two lynches to eliminate them. Maybe not such a good idea after all. Ah well.

Hi all Any thoughts about Alakaslam?


I think I've seen Slam as scum only once, tops twice. IIRC.
Since you have something in mind where this happened, do you remember the game? Or did you just scumread him when he was town. Either way I'm not a fan of this reasoning, mafia sometimes are the friendliest guys in the game, or girls in the case of cop last game.

I like the idea to not have a pardoner in the game but would probably not expect it to work.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21966 Posts
November 24 2020 15:45 GMT
#180
On November 25 2020 00:34 Hapahauli wrote:
Vivax's entrance is uninspiring and scummy, since he makes 6 pointless posts about reads that he's not read enough of the thread to be confident on.


Strike while the iron is hot. I might forget something that caught my eye if I don't instantly write about it.

But noted that to you the posts are pointless. Are they also pointless when I'm caught up?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21966 Posts
November 24 2020 16:08 GMT
#188
On November 24 2020 20:49 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2020 14:09 Tictock wrote:
Took a quick break from leveling (about 40% in) to read and stretch.

I take Trfel's bumbling to be fairly genuine and am ok hand waving Gracks tone as town (honestly have only skimmed his posts though).

If I had to shoot anyone right now (who has posted) I would kill FF.

See you guys in a few more levels.


I saw you throw shade at FF a little yesterday. Why you after him?


The shade throwing by TT is about Fefe not realizing it's mayor vote time, so weird way for Jock to frame what has happened.
In context the post also looks a bit snipey with the Trfel + Grack discussion and Slam talking about HolyPears lawyer status. Looks like an easy question to sneak in and calling it shade throwing suggests laziness, but subsequent posts by Jock seem fine.
So in summary, entrance kinda shitty here but otherwise I feel like Jock is thinking along my lines here in regards to Slam, Grack and Trfel. Which doesn't mean much alignment wise but I can work with him for today.

Trfel is probably town, doesn't have the mafia nervous tone. TT is being nonchalant about just giving half a fuck about playing mafia while poking FF so can be town too.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21966 Posts
November 24 2020 16:20 GMT
#190
On November 25 2020 01:01 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2020 00:45 Vivax wrote:
On November 25 2020 00:34 Hapahauli wrote:
Vivax's entrance is uninspiring and scummy, since he makes 6 pointless posts about reads that he's not read enough of the thread to be confident on.


Strike while the iron is hot. I might forget something that caught my eye if I don't instantly write about it.

But noted that to you the posts are pointless. Are they also pointless when I'm caught up?


No.

There is a difference between:

"Slam is mafia/suspicious/whatever for reasons*"

*this read is subject to change after I read the thread.

and

"Slam is mafia/suspicious/whatever for reasons"

The first doesn't inherently state anything.


You are saying I could now go back and take back what I said about Slam because I've read the thread after I said it?

What would I say in the case where you are right and I find three dudes who I want to lynch more than him? Your implication is that I'd invalidate what I said about Slam while I'd just say I found three dudes who are scummier than him.

In conclusion, you'd not like me to spell out whatever is going through my mind at a given moment if it isn't my baked out scumteam (which btw seems impossible D1 with these players)?

Because that's what the purpose of you calling out my post as pointless would be if it isn't to just shovel shit in my general direction, which it felt like.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21966 Posts
November 24 2020 16:28 GMT
#191
On November 25 2020 01:18 Jockmcplop wrote:
Its nap time I'll see you in a bit

me rn:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I didn't know you could do that.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21966 Posts
November 24 2020 16:37 GMT
#193
Grack have you arrived to anything conclusion-wise in regards to Trfel?

Or any other player for that matter. Feels like now you're just sitting back waiting to see what gets thrown at you.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21966 Posts
November 24 2020 16:44 GMT
#200
On November 25 2020 01:43 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2020 23:37 Vivax wrote:
To conclude, I need to go grab some thingies and while at it decide if I want to run. Also skipped over reading Trfel, Jock and a bunch of other stuff. See you in a while.

No, too late bro.

If elected Mayor, I will push for a lynch on Vivax. I will still listen to town, but that is who I suspect most.


Feeling threatened?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21966 Posts
November 24 2020 17:15 GMT
#203
Seems to be a thing atm to just say x is mafia without pointing out anything in specific, ignore questions and peace out again.

At least that's the pattern for Jock and Slam on the last page. For Jock minus the x is mafia but it leaves a bad aftertaste that he dodges or misses Hapas question.

Either way Trfel seems like a reasonable choice for mayor. Pretty much my only TR at this point aside from tentatively ticktock.

I'm kinda in a hurry so hoped I could do more during these hours.

In case someone wants to make me mayor, as in a rebellious maniac who mostly tryhards, here's my program.
If I become mayor I'd use it as a vig shot on Shockeyy or FF if they don't rack up at least 2 pages of filter til the end of the day. That's the only thing that makes sense on a D1 with the awful scum hit rate and peeps should know.

Otherwise I don't trust anyone to be able to figure out Shockeyy anyway.

When they rack up the two pages under duress, my watchful gaze, I'd just try to compromise on a lynch with whom I think is town.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21966 Posts
November 24 2020 17:41 GMT
#207
On November 25 2020 02:20 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2020 01:20 Vivax wrote:
On November 25 2020 01:01 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 25 2020 00:45 Vivax wrote:
On November 25 2020 00:34 Hapahauli wrote:
Vivax's entrance is uninspiring and scummy, since he makes 6 pointless posts about reads that he's not read enough of the thread to be confident on.


Strike while the iron is hot. I might forget something that caught my eye if I don't instantly write about it.

But noted that to you the posts are pointless. Are they also pointless when I'm caught up?


No.

There is a difference between:

"Slam is mafia/suspicious/whatever for reasons*"

*this read is subject to change after I read the thread.

and

"Slam is mafia/suspicious/whatever for reasons"

The first doesn't inherently state anything.


You are saying I could now go back and take back what I said about Slam because I've read the thread after I said it?

What would I say in the case where you are right and I find three dudes who I want to lynch more than him? Your implication is that I'd invalidate what I said about Slam while I'd just say I found three dudes who are scummier than him.

In conclusion, you'd not like me to spell out whatever is going through my mind at a given moment if it isn't my baked out scumteam (which btw seems impossible D1 with these players)?

Because that's what the purpose of you calling out my post as pointless would be if it isn't to just shovel shit in my general direction, which it felt like.


No one is asking you to throw out a full scum-team less than 24 hours into day 1.

Question: you believe I am "shoveling shit" at you since I pointed out something that you did that I perceived as "scummy" (useless posts, etc.). Is that not exactly the function of posting what you did about Slam? Posting a suspicion with qualifications, and then immediately hedging those suspicions?

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On November 25 2020 00:22 Vivax wrote:
Anyway I don't want to call him mafia before I've read everything. Going to get to that now.




You said pointless and scummy. You explained why the pointless, you didn't explain why the scummy.

On November 25 2020 02:35 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2020 02:15 Vivax wrote:
Seems to be a thing atm to just say x is mafia without pointing out anything in specific, ignore questions and peace out again.

At least that's the pattern for Jock and Slam on the last page. For Jock minus the x is mafia but it leaves a bad aftertaste that he dodges or misses Hapas question.

Either way Trfel seems like a reasonable choice for mayor. Pretty much my only TR at this point aside from tentatively ticktock.

I'm kinda in a hurry so hoped I could do more during these hours.

In case someone wants to make me mayor, as in a rebellious maniac who mostly tryhards, here's my program.
If I become mayor I'd use it as a vig shot on Shockeyy or FF if they don't rack up at least 2 pages of filter til the end of the day. That's the only thing that makes sense on a D1 with the awful scum hit rate and peeps should know.

Otherwise I don't trust anyone to be able to figure out Shockeyy anyway.

When they rack up the two pages under duress, my watchful gaze, I'd just try to compromise on a lynch with whom I think is town.


Where did Jock dodge/miss my question? Upon a review of the thread, he answered what I asked of him to my knowledge.


I somehow missed the "yes" between your post and his. Thought he didn't answer that.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21966 Posts
November 24 2020 17:51 GMT
#209
On November 25 2020 02:46 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2020 01:37 Vivax wrote:
Grack have you arrived to anything conclusion-wise in regards to Trfel?

Or any other player for that matter. Feels like now you're just sitting back waiting to see what gets thrown at you.

I really just don't get quick reads the way other people tend to do. I actually spend a lot of time reading too funnily enough.

You're right that Trfel seems pretty comfortable when talking about me/Rayn but I do think his opening post was an uncomfortable one.

I expected to be scum reading Jock going into a filter dive but I came out thinking his point on Trfel is actually a good one. Trfel seemed like he really wanted to push out his read that Slam was approaching his mayor run in a townie way, but then at the end he's waffling because Slam is being persistent?

The only thing I'd feel pretty strongly so far is that Hapa is town.


Where did that expectation come from?
You sound a lot like you have a Trfel suspicion but are hesitant to say it, which I think Hapa already mentioned (and that makes him town?).
Was the mayor thing serious? Since you haven't really said on what premise you'd lynch.

On November 24 2020 09:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2020 09:15 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 24 2020 09:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 24 2020 09:12 Alakaslam wrote:
Why is hapa NOT campaigning then?

Now this is actually a townie question i have been waiting anyone to ask.

Well

Yeah which is why you wanting it to be you or him was sus as hell but then Trfel came and put his pants on his head and shat on the carpet so I was too busy going “wtf” at that.

Plus the occam’s razor hamblin’s razor whichever one.

I dont know if you realised it but i have been kinda being after this from my first post to him. I guess i can reveal my this thing: now.
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2020 06:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay, we'll see about that later on then. Then i am also not gonna post the follow up i was going to yet.


I dont really think Hapa is town atm. I think he should at least maybe have some reads he doesnt atm.


So, did he build them yet?

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