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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
January 18 2021 06:34 GMT
#3054
On January 18 2021 09:28 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2021 08:00 Alakaslam wrote:
Part of the reason I’m essentially pulling a conversion after this is that this game has had it dawn on me that I can literally be a cop with a redcheck and
1. Not be enough of a priority to shoot or save
2. Not be able to convince a town to lynch my target and
3. Garner suspicion for this

Clearly, this game is not for me. If mechanics can’t make up for my apparent lack of skill...

*and 2b. This across multiple days.

**and 4. All this in a game where people are saying it was heavily town favored when not one mafia was lynched.

*** and about 4... please explain how a game with two three at least still have not read all roles- mechanics that can make the team unlynchable for a phase is town favored?

I literally hit my check and could not lynch my target, largely due to those mechanics. The check also took two cycles to form, so you can’t weight my role as a full cop. WoS and others I can’t remember made baller saves, but those could have also snowballed to tons of extra KP.

There were basically two bad lynches iirc, which were GB and ShoCkeyy. Odds of Vivax hitting scum with his role: generally 1 in about 3 tbh. Even when the odds were reduced to 50:50, he obviously missed at my behest. When he SR me too.

People don’t take into account the power of lacking knowledge when they talk balance. I think this one was balanced well. Town played... either like shit or amazingly well, depending where you look, scum played normally and used dandel’s mechanics and shrouding their intent with those well to execute flawless victory. Props, but don’t then claim it was THAT much of an uphill battle before you imagine having an SR all game that you
Just
Cant
Lynch

Albeit I pointed out that was RP, it wasn’t too long before I meant every last bit of it- and still wasn’t certain!

Don't be too hard on yourself. The reason we did not shoot you was that we knew in advance who you would check because of the way your role worked with the need to vote them first. If that hadn't been the case we absolutely would have tried to get rid of you. Your gameplay was not the reason.

No idea what town was doing on day2. Dandel should have been the lynch 100 %.

Oh, I just needed to tunnel to upgrade my checks.

It just so happened that my first scum read turned into my actual game long tunnel, especially when the invalidation of my initial vote caused me to not properly upgrade d1.

Imagine a heal being reversed into KP with a QT then proceeding to shoot town

Game over ? 🤔
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-18 15:07:55
January 18 2021 15:06 GMT
#3057
On January 18 2021 16:15 yamato77 wrote:
Town overall played quite poorly outside of night actions.

Mafia played really well in almost all aspects of the game, and they still could have lost if the final day hadn't gone exactly as it did. Conversion easily could have nuked TT, town could have lynched Dandel, and the game would have come down to JAT attempting to solo against a lot of powerful town roles and at least a few people still trying to make sense of the game.

That's why the game is town favored. The events of this game do not reflect the balance of the setup very well because of how the last 2 days played out. Many people made mistakes, myself obviously included. I am not particularly interested in the minutiae. I will say though, there was a lot of self-fulfilling prophecy this game.

And maybe some actual prophecy too, if I just had more confidence. I hate acting like I really know anything though.
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