Mafia is an educated guessing game of epic proportions. The objective of the game is to lynch or kill all mafia members before they outnumber the rest of the town. It's much like a game of poker because mafia members are also part of the town during the day and may manipulate the vote to their liking. If the mafia at any time outnumber or equal the townspeople, they win. The town's goal is to lynch all the members of the mafia.
The game is typically very active, so the thread may grow large quickly. However, it is essential to read the thread to play the game. If you do not have the time or patience to read the whole thread, do not play.
Rules:
Cheating: Cheating includes (but is not limited to):
Posting after death. You may have one polite goodbye post; but it may not contain any potentially game-changing information.
Ruining the game by doing something like hand out your mafia's member list to the town.
Logging on to someone else's account to get their role or looking over someone's shoulder to get their role.
Comparing role PM times to determine roles.
Posting screenshots of your inbox.
Posting any PM you receive from a host.
Getting yourself modkilled to help your team. Your non-majority-decided death may not be used as a bargaining chip.
Signing up more than once using smurf accounts.
Betting items outside of the game in exchange for in-game benefits.
Sharing accounts with other players. Only you may post on your account.
Posting the link to any QT's you have.
You may not reveal or hint about the identity of your coach. You may not refer to any idea, course of action, etc. as something that was suggested by your coach.
If you feel that any action you are considering may be against the spirit of the game, it is best to contact a host and ensure it is allowed before proceeding.
Posting:
Host Color: The color blue is reserved for the hosts of the game to make our posts easy to notice. Please do not use it.
Questions: The color green is reserved for questions by players for the hosts during pre-game.
Once the game begins, please PM the hosts with any questions.
Smurfs: Smurfs must PM the host because TL doesn't allow multiple accounts otherwise. If the host is unaware of smurfs, you (and/or your smurf) can be banned for having multiple accounts
Editing: Editing is not allowed for any reason. Editing will result in a warning. After that, you will be modkilled. This is the one part of the site where it is okay to be double posting, even triple-posting. "Editing" includes indirect editing like linking an image, then editing the image. Editing your profile or signature are allowed, but if you edit them for any game-related reasons (ie, breadcrumbing, sending messages, etc) this will be considered out-of-thread posting and will be punished.
Inappropriate posts and use of the report post link: If you want to post something insulting or inappropriate and know the TL mods would have a problem with it elsewhere, don't post it here. If you do, a host will warn you or modkill you and request that you be banned from future games. The hosts have the final say on what is inappropriate. If you do not like how someone is talking to you, please PM a host, or FecalFeast before involving the TL moderation staff or using the report post link. If you are unsatisfied with how the situation is resolved, then you can appeal to the TL staff normally.
Ban discussions: Please wait until this game is over to talk about modkills and bans resulting from this game.
Play to win. This means you play your best to help your team win while you are alive and in the game. However, this does not mean that you should try to win by being a jerk to the other players so they all want to quit playing.
This also means that you cannot leave the game without a good reason without a ban. These situations will be dealt with on a case by case basis. PM your host if you need to leave the game.
Out of thread communication:
It is common for players whose roles permit out of thread communication (e.g. mafia, masons) to use a medium outside of TL such as QuickTopics or IRC to communicate during the game. Other players may not attempt to infiltrate such communication channels. Players who have not explicitly been given permission to communicate outside the thread are not allowed to do so.
Voting rules:
Voting is done in a separate voting thread that will be posted at the start of the game. Do not PM your vote to the hosts, it will not be counted.
Please vote in the following format: ##Vote kavdragon.
No conditional voting.
You may vote only for other living players in the thread. You may not vote for yourself.
This game uses plurality voting, so whoever has the most votes at the end of the day is lynched. There is no minimum number of votes required to lynch someone. If there is a tie for most votes, whoever most recently had more votes than the other is the person who is up for the lynch.
The person who is up for the lynch is whoever has the most votes. Bringing another player up to that number of votes doesn't put him up for the lynch; s/he has to have the most votes.
Voting is mandatory. You may NOT abstain.
Signups:
Signup for the game by posting /in in the thread.
You are responsible for being aware when the game begins. I will send a PM to players one (1) day before starting. If you learn you cannot play when I PM you, please let me know ASAP.
Game-specific rules:
Modkills: Modkills will be used at the hosts' discretion.
Replacements: Players who fail to post for an entire day and night cycle will be replaced.
If you are unable to continue playing for a legitimate reason and require a replacement, inform the host(s) via PM. Do not post about it in the thread and do not contact the standby players on your own accord.
Clues: The role PMs and day/night posts are purely flavor text. There are no clues.
PMs: PMs and out of thread communication are not allowed in this game, unless your role explicitly allows them.
Activity: You are expected to keep up with the thread and participate in discussion daily. If for some reason you anticipate that you will not be available for a period longer than the 48 hour day phase, please notify a host ahead of time.
Time Cycle: This game will follow a 48 hour day/24 hour night cycle. Upon reaching the deadline, the game will be put on hold until the next day or night post is posted. Any votes or night actions timestamped up to and including XX:59 will count; those at or after XX:00 will not.
Once the deadline has been reached, you must not post in the thread until the game is resumed by the next daypost or nightpost. Do not wait until the very last moment to try to post!
The deadline for each cycle will be 18:00 GMT (+00:00).
Credits: Thanks to cohosts, coaches and players. Thanks to every active member of the TL mafia community.
Newbie-specific stuff
It's already in the rules, but remember, no editing. If you feel you must correct your post, please make a second post to clarify your statements. You may put EBWOP ("Edit by way of post," a handy acronym invented by semioldguy) at the beginning of your post to indicate that you are clearing up a point you made. If your EBWOP post is several posts after your original, please quote your original post in your EBWOP post for the sake of clarity.
Only sign up if you know you will have the time available to properly play the game. It is essential that players remain active in a newbie game, so only /in if you are able to play to your fullest.
If there is any sort of issue, you are unsure about some mechanic, or you are just wondering if your devilish scheme is even allowed, feel free to PM the host(s). Don't feel shy; these games are meant to be a place to learn and be open.
Behave as gentlemen (or ladies). Things get heated here, but personal attacks will not be acceptable, and will be dealt with accordingly. Remember, this is a game; have fun and happy scumhunting!
Please do not talk about any ongoing games either in-game or pre-game. This can affect other games and is unacceptable. Please do not refer to outside-of- thread activity of players in this thread.
If you receive coaching, don't tell town about it.
This is a semi open setup. What that means is that all possible roles are known, but the exact setup is not known. Any of these roles could potentially be included in the game:
Vanilla Town Unaware Miller (receives a VT PM role, appears as scum when checked by cop or parity cop) Unaware Wanderer (receives a VT PM role, visits the person killed by the scum team every night.)
Veteran (you have 1 bulletproof vest. If shot at night your vest will break but you will survive. You will die if shot at night a second time. If roleblocked your vest doesn't protect you. You will not be notified if you are shot.) Cop (at night you can check the alignment of one person. You will receive "Town", "Mafia" or "No result" at end of night) Tracker (at night you can track a person. And end of night you will receive the name of the people your target visited, "No visit" if your target didn't visit anyone, or "No result" if you couldn't track your target) Doctor (at night, you can protect one person from 1 KP. You cannot target yourself. You will not be notified if you make a save.) Jailkeeper (at night, you can roleblock and protect one person from 1 KP. You cannot target yourself) Vigilante (at night, you can deal 1 KP to one person) Roleblocker (at night you can roleblock one person. You cannot roleblock yourself) Named VT (you do not have any special abilities)
Mafia Goon Mafia Godfather (you appear as Town from alignment checks. You can be tracked though) Mafia Rolecop (at night you can learn the role of one person) Mafia Roleblocker (at night you can roleblock one person. You cannot roleblock yourself)
The roles will be sent via PM just before the start of the game. The PMs will look like this:
You're a Vanilla Town
You're a Cop
FAQ
Each night the mafia team must choose one teammate to deliver the night kill. Players will not be informed if they are roleblocked. Doctor will not be informed if they make a save.
In the case of conflicting roleblocks, the mafia Roleblocker's action will take priority over Town Jailkeeper/Roleblocker. (Suppose the Mafia Roleblocker has roleblocked the Town Roleblocker and vice-versa, but the Mafia Roleblocker is also carrying the night kill, then the Mafia Roleblocker's roleblock will go through first and the night kill will be unimpeded.)
If only one Roleblocker is roleblocked, then the roleblocked Roleblocker's action will not go through. (Suppose the Town Roleblocker/Jailkeeper has roleblocked the Mafia Roleblocker, and the Mafia Roleblocker has roleblocked a Cop. Then the Mafia Roleblocker's action will not process and the Cop will get a check.)
Town can no lynch Mafia cannot no shoot. If mafia fails to submit a shot, the shot will be randomized among town players.
Mafia cannot no shoot. If mafia fails to submit a shot, the shot will be randomized among town players.
I suggest you change this to ALL players for promoting activity you guys wanted to promote.
What's the point of named VT role btw?
I am reluctant to add a non-standard mechanic to a newbie game, even if it "promotes activity". I will keep that suggestion in mind for normal games.
Pretty much the only point of the named VT role is to claim... and that's it. There are no powers associated with the role.
I stole the setup from the last newbie game fwiw.
I believe this mechanic wasn't created to stimulate activity. I proposed this rule before because I've faced this problem and I had to decide between randomizing or no-kill. And when the rules say "mafia cannot no-shoot" town would think there was a protective role. I didn't consider activity in that moment.
Nonetheless, what rayn said is something to be considered. Can you imagine having the mafia team afking the whole game while shots occurs randomly until they win? It reinforces inactivity.
On August 27 2020 02:53 Hapahauli wrote: Pretty much the only point of the named VT role is to claim... and that's it. There are no powers associated with the role.
As like... VT??? Or what? :D What's the difference of me claiming VT or Named townie D1 as town?
On August 27 2020 02:53 Hapahauli wrote: Pretty much the only point of the named VT role is to claim... and that's it. There are no powers associated with the role.
As like... VT??? Or what? :D What's the difference of me claiming VT or Named townie D1 as town?
The difference is that if you actually have a named vt on the game and you're fake claiming, you'll be insta lynched and the guy will be basically confirmed town lol
Mafia cannot no shoot. If mafia fails to submit a shot, the shot will be randomized among town players.
I suggest you change this to ALL players for promoting activity you guys wanted to promote.
What's the point of named VT role btw?
I am reluctant to add a non-standard mechanic to a newbie game, even if it "promotes activity". I will keep that suggestion in mind for normal games.
Pretty much the only point of the named VT role is to claim... and that's it. There are no powers associated with the role.
I stole the setup from the last newbie game fwiw.
I believe this mechanic wasn't created to stimulate activity. I proposed this rule before because I've faced this problem and I had to decide between randomizing or no-kill. And when the rules say "mafia cannot no-shoot" town would think there was a protective role. I didn't consider activity in that moment.
Nonetheless, what rayn said is something to be considered. Can you imagine having the mafia team afking the whole game while shots occurs randomly until they win? It reinforces inactivity.
Mafia cannot no shoot. If mafia fails to submit a shot, the shot will be randomized among town players.
I suggest you change this to ALL players for promoting activity you guys wanted to promote.
What's the point of named VT role btw?
I am reluctant to add a non-standard mechanic to a newbie game, even if it "promotes activity". I will keep that suggestion in mind for normal games.
Pretty much the only point of the named VT role is to claim... and that's it. There are no powers associated with the role.
I stole the setup from the last newbie game fwiw.
I believe this mechanic wasn't created to stimulate activity. I proposed this rule before because I've faced this problem and I had to decide between randomizing or no-kill. And when the rules say "mafia cannot no-shoot" town would think there was a protective role. I didn't consider activity in that moment.
Nonetheless, what rayn said is something to be considered. Can you imagine having the mafia team afking the whole game while shots occurs randomly until they win? It reinforces inactivity.
Should town not be lynching inactives?
That was not the point. Inactivity in terms of not posting is different than people not doing what they are "supposed" to, i mean like voting and mafia team deciding night actions. As well as townies for not voting, mafia team should be punished for not fulfilling their required action (in terms of AT LEAST the randomized night kill being able to hit themselves too).
Mafia cannot no shoot. If mafia fails to submit a shot, the shot will be randomized among town players.
I suggest you change this to ALL players for promoting activity you guys wanted to promote.
What's the point of named VT role btw?
I am reluctant to add a non-standard mechanic to a newbie game, even if it "promotes activity". I will keep that suggestion in mind for normal games.
Pretty much the only point of the named VT role is to claim... and that's it. There are no powers associated with the role.
I stole the setup from the last newbie game fwiw.
I believe this mechanic wasn't created to stimulate activity. I proposed this rule before because I've faced this problem and I had to decide between randomizing or no-kill. And when the rules say "mafia cannot no-shoot" town would think there was a protective role. I didn't consider activity in that moment.
Nonetheless, what rayn said is something to be considered. Can you imagine having the mafia team afking the whole game while shots occurs randomly until they win? It reinforces inactivity.
Should town not be lynching inactives?
Well, kinda, but it's been a trend to lynch the most outspoken, don't you think?
Mafia cannot no shoot. If mafia fails to submit a shot, the shot will be randomized among town players.
I suggest you change this to ALL players for promoting activity you guys wanted to promote.
What's the point of named VT role btw?
I am reluctant to add a non-standard mechanic to a newbie game, even if it "promotes activity". I will keep that suggestion in mind for normal games.
Pretty much the only point of the named VT role is to claim... and that's it. There are no powers associated with the role.
I stole the setup from the last newbie game fwiw.
I believe this mechanic wasn't created to stimulate activity. I proposed this rule before because I've faced this problem and I had to decide between randomizing or no-kill. And when the rules say "mafia cannot no-shoot" town would think there was a protective role. I didn't consider activity in that moment.
Nonetheless, what rayn said is something to be considered. Can you imagine having the mafia team afking the whole game while shots occurs randomly until they win? It reinforces inactivity.
Should town not be lynching inactives?
Well, kinda, but it's been a trend to lynch the most outspoken, don't you think?
On August 27 2020 05:32 Vivax wrote: I'd tip you guys a beer or coffee for all the hosting you're doing. Thanks, really.
Gonna /in.
A beer would be nice
On August 28 2020 01:55 Alakaslam wrote:
On August 27 2020 04:12 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 27 2020 02:53 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 27 2020 01:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Mafia cannot no shoot. If mafia fails to submit a shot, the shot will be randomized among town players.
I suggest you change this to ALL players for promoting activity you guys wanted to promote.
What's the point of named VT role btw?
I am reluctant to add a non-standard mechanic to a newbie game, even if it "promotes activity". I will keep that suggestion in mind for normal games.
Pretty much the only point of the named VT role is to claim... and that's it. There are no powers associated with the role.
I stole the setup from the last newbie game fwiw.
I believe this mechanic wasn't created to stimulate activity. I proposed this rule before because I've faced this problem and I had to decide between randomizing or no-kill. And when the rules say "mafia cannot no-shoot" town would think there was a protective role. I didn't consider activity in that moment.
Nonetheless, what rayn said is something to be considered. Can you imagine having the mafia team afking the whole game while shots occurs randomly until they win? It reinforces inactivity.
Should town not be lynching inactives?
Well, kinda, but it's been a trend to lynch the most outspoken, don't you think?
It is and it’s bad
Exactly
On August 30 2020 09:45 Dadred wrote: I will whisper sweet things in your ear my good bear
I just had the weirdest deja vu
Guys, I think we won't have newbies. We should just all /in
On September 03 2020 11:16 Monadel wrote: I'm from Aus so I probably won't be around for deadline does that matter?
Just be aware that you might miss some action, but that's all
On September 03 2020 14:41 ShoCkeyy wrote: I wish I can /in atm but work has me beat. I’ve been non stop, and if game starts now or next week, it’ll probably be bad for me :/
Fine :/ I understand
On September 04 2020 14:22 Alakaslam wrote: I cannot join on principle
On September 06 2020 10:46 Alakaslam wrote: Lately i just ruin games
Also I disagree. I think you've played decent games recently and the only thing that people may have been upset for was you not having time to play. If you want to play, you should.
On September 06 2020 10:46 Alakaslam wrote: Lately i just ruin games
Also I disagree. I think you've played decent games recently and the only thing that people may have been upset for was you not having time to play. If you want to play, you should.
On September 06 2020 10:46 Alakaslam wrote: Lately i just ruin games
Also I disagree. I think you've played decent games recently and the only thing that people may have been upset for was you not having time to play. If you want to play, you should.
On September 17 2020 07:10 Trfel wrote: Raynpelikoneet (or anyone else), you can play instead of me if you want. I started a new job so I've been pretty busy/tired lately.
If no one else wants to play, then /confirm
I can play instead of you. So /conf Graz on new job <3 I've also worked over 120 hrs in last two weeks and after tomorrow i will have a couple of days free and normal hours (hopefully) after weekend.
This is an INSTANT MAJORITY LYNCH GAME. The second that someone reaches a majority of votes, they are lynched. I will be capping day lengths at 72 hours.
THIS GAME STARTS AT NIGHT 0. Please submit night actions. Nights will normally last 24 hours. Night 0 is slightly extended due to host's schedule.
Actually my post is not a joke at all. I am literally saying i am not a cop because the cop should claim. For some reason the doctor is allowed to act N0 so 100% the cop should immediately claim. Then we either have one cop claim or two and we work from there.
On September 18 2020 01:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: Actually my post is not a joke at all. I am literally saying i am not a cop because the cop should claim. For some reason the doctor is allowed to act N0 so 100% the cop should immediately claim. Then we either have one cop claim or two and we work from there.
I agree 100%. I'm not the cop, you aren't. It would be better if no one answers you but the cop, or we will just be narrowing the choices for mafia.
No, i had a specific reason to ask YOU that question but i didn't gather any further information from your answer. I don't expect other people to answer that.
On September 18 2020 01:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: No, i had a specific reason to ask YOU that question but i didn't gather any further information from your answer. I don't expect other people to answer that.
Cool, I was just warning people. What did you expect me to answer as mafia or as town?
I didn't expect anything. Your post towards me looked slightly out of place (and still does), but had you answered that you would fakeclaim as mafia i think you would certainly be mafia then. Because if you are telling the truth then you think the best play for mafia is to fakeclaim immediately, i did the opposite, and if you think the best play is to claim i don't think you would think i wouldn't think so.
On September 18 2020 01:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: I didn't expect anything. Your post towards me looked slightly out of place (and still does), but had you answered that you would fakeclaim as mafia i think you would certainly be mafia then. Because if you are telling the truth then you think the best play for mafia is to fakeclaim immediately, i did the opposite, and if you think the best play is to claim i don't think you would think i wouldn't think so.
I see. You mean that, if I, as mafia, would think fakeclaiming was the best option, I should be fakeclaiming right away. But since I answered you something else, you didn't gather anything from me. Is that right?
Why do you think my post is out of place specifically? I think it's pretty sound
On September 18 2020 01:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: I didn't expect anything. Your post towards me looked slightly out of place (and still does), but had you answered that you would fakeclaim as mafia i think you would certainly be mafia then. Because if you are telling the truth then you think the best play for mafia is to fakeclaim immediately, i did the opposite, and if you think the best play is to claim i don't think you would think i wouldn't think so.
I see. You mean that, if I, as mafia, would think fakeclaiming was the best option, I should be fakeclaiming right away. But since I answered you something else, you didn't gather anything from me. Is that right?
Why do you think my post is out of place specifically? I think it's pretty sound
If you said "yes i would fakeclaim as mafia":
If you are telling the truth, then i think you should think that i think that too, and i would be fakeclaiming instead of the opposite (and therefore i should be town since i didn't).
If youre lying then well youre just making a bullshit post and mafia.
The out of place is mostly because of "That doesn’t tell much about your alignmentwhich makes me think you’re mafia". Do you realise what's wrong there?
On September 18 2020 01:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: I didn't expect anything. Your post towards me looked slightly out of place (and still does), but had you answered that you would fakeclaim as mafia i think you would certainly be mafia then. Because if you are telling the truth then you think the best play for mafia is to fakeclaim immediately, i did the opposite, and if you think the best play is to claim i don't think you would think i wouldn't think so.
I see. You mean that, if I, as mafia, would think fakeclaiming was the best option, I should be fakeclaiming right away. But since I answered you something else, you didn't gather anything from me. Is that right?
Why do you think my post is out of place specifically? I think it's pretty sound
If you said "yes i would fakeclaim as mafia":
If you are telling the truth, then i think you should think that i think that too, and i would be fakeclaiming instead of the opposite (and therefore i should be town since i didn't).
If youre lying then well youre just making a bullshit post and mafia.
The out of place is mostly because of "That doesn’t tell much about your alignmentwhich makes me think you’re mafia". Do you realise what's wrong there?
Although I love to think that you think that saying you think that I would think you'd think is funny, and that I think that too, I'll stop it here because I am getting confused
To be fair, it is a bold move to fakeclaim cop claim. I don't think mafia would do that (although not impossible). And IF mafia does that, they won't do it out of the blue. They will plan it in their QT, how will they make it work, how will they breadcrumb, etc.
So IF you claimed here right away, I would assume you're the cop. But if you don't claim, you could be coming from either alignment. But before I proceed with my reasoning, let me ask you something: do you believe that, if townies start saying "I'm not the cop", we are just making it easier for mafia?
On September 18 2020 02:49 GlowingBear wrote: I mean, I get it: the REAL COP claiming he is the cop is good. But townies saying they AREN'T the cop is bad. Right?
why? if the real cop is an idiot and thinks he shouldnt claim then it forces his to do the right thing. Like right now, if we assume me you and dadred are town there are only two more townies who can be the cop. Mafia knows who is who alignment wise so.... What would you do if you hadn't posted yet as a cop?
On September 18 2020 02:49 GlowingBear wrote: I mean, I get it: the REAL COP claiming he is the cop is good. But townies saying they AREN'T the cop is bad. Right?
why? if the real cop is an idiot and thinks he shouldnt claim then it forces his to do the right thing. Like right now, if we assume me you and dadred are town there are only two more townies who can be the cop. Mafia knows who is who alignment wise so.... What would you do if you hadn't posted yet as a cop?
3x Vanilla Townie 1x Cop 1x Doctor 2x Mafia Goon
If 4 townies says they are not the cop, mafia already knows who the cop is, and town doesn't. Doctor can miss the real cop due to this. Mafia can't.
It also narrows the nightkill to 4 people if they want to take a shot on the doctor.
In other words: finding the cop with a cop claim is positive for town. finding the cop by narrowing the possibilities is not good for town.
Which I propose:
REAL COP, CLAIM ASAP Townies, do not tell your role.
On September 18 2020 02:49 GlowingBear wrote: I mean, I get it: the REAL COP claiming he is the cop is good. But townies saying they AREN'T the cop is bad. Right?
why? if the real cop is an idiot and thinks he shouldnt claim then it forces his to do the right thing. Like right now, if we assume me you and dadred are town there are only two more townies who can be the cop. Mafia knows who is who alignment wise so.... What would you do if you hadn't posted yet as a cop?
3x Vanilla Townie 1x Cop 1x Doctor 2x Mafia Goon
If 4 townies says they are not the cop, mafia already knows who the cop is, and town doesn't. Doctor can miss the real cop due to this. Mafia can't.
It also narrows the nightkill to 4 people if they want to take a shot on the doctor.
In other words: finding the cop with a cop claim is positive for town. finding the cop by narrowing the possibilities is not good for town.
Which I propose:
REAL COP, CLAIM ASAP Townies, do not tell your role.
Btw that's why I said you could be mafia. You're not really telling your alignment in that post while helping mafia narrowing the possibilities. Does it make sense?
On September 18 2020 02:49 GlowingBear wrote: I mean, I get it: the REAL COP claiming he is the cop is good. But townies saying they AREN'T the cop is bad. Right?
why? if the real cop is an idiot and thinks he shouldnt claim then it forces his to do the right thing. Like right now, if we assume me you and dadred are town there are only two more townies who can be the cop. Mafia knows who is who alignment wise so.... What would you do if you hadn't posted yet as a cop?
3x Vanilla Townie 1x Cop 1x Doctor 2x Mafia Goon
If 4 townies says they are not the cop, mafia already knows who the cop is, and town doesn't. Doctor can miss the real cop due to this. Mafia can't.
It also narrows the nightkill to 4 people if they want to take a shot on the doctor.
In other words: finding the cop with a cop claim is positive for town. finding the cop by narrowing the possibilities is not good for town.
Which I propose:
REAL COP, CLAIM ASAP Townies, do not tell your role.
Btw that's why I said you could be mafia. You're not really telling your alignment in that post while helping mafia narrowing the possibilities. Does it make sense?
On September 18 2020 04:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay so much for the confusion, just google number four + klaus + ben. I had my laughs :D
Let's play mafia. Monadel do you think anything sticks out as fishy atm?
No I don't.
I think what Glowingbear is saying is an unescessary over explanation on "the cop should claim" but I dont think it makes him mafia
Why?
Actually I agree. The cop gets n0 check then they need do claim.. 5v2 we get a red check for the cop is a good trade. I think cop shouldn't claim until d2 though.
On September 18 2020 04:10 Number 4 wrote: Detective Glowing Bear, I present myself ready for duty to destroy the mafia guys.
You might call me Number 4 from now on.
Wait, Copcake?
I am eversince.
And I'm inevitable
Good!
Now tell me sme of your reads?
^^
Rayn mafia Damdy meh You and CopCake detectives forever. Who can it be now? Monadel newbie on the forums, may be a bit intimidated to post more, but for now meh. Still waiting Vivax to own the game once more
On September 18 2020 04:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay so much for the confusion, just google number four + klaus + ben. I had my laughs :D
Let's play mafia. Monadel do you think anything sticks out as fishy atm?
No I don't.
I think what Glowingbear is saying is an unescessary over explanation on "the cop should claim" but I dont think it makes him mafia
Why?
Actually I agree. The cop gets n0 check then they need do claim.. 5v2 we get a red check for the cop is a good trade. I think cop shouldn't claim until d2 though.
Rayn why push for a cop claim n0?
To be fair I like the idea of having cop claiming n0 so the doctor knows who to protect. It either forces mafia to fakeclaim or doctor hunt. They will have 25% chance of hitting doctor while we guarantee we have a cop with a check day1.
The problem is when we don't have a clear claim and the doctor can't find out who the cop is because they "assume" it's someone else. This only helps mafia.
On September 18 2020 04:10 Number 4 wrote: Detective Glowing Bear, I present myself ready for duty to destroy the mafia guys.
You might call me Number 4 from now on.
Wait, Copcake?
I am eversince.
And I'm inevitable
Good!
Now tell me sme of your reads?
^^
Rayn mafia Damdy meh You and CopCake detectives forever. Who can it be now? Monadel newbie on the forums, may be a bit intimidated to post more, but for now meh. Still waiting Vivax to own the game once more
I don't think m!Ryan here. Care to talk about it? -ES
On September 18 2020 04:10 Number 4 wrote: Detective Glowing Bear, I present myself ready for duty to destroy the mafia guys.
You might call me Number 4 from now on.
Wait, Copcake?
I am eversince.
And I'm inevitable
Good!
Now tell me sme of your reads?
^^
Rayn mafia Damdy meh You and CopCake detectives forever. Who can it be now? Monadel newbie on the forums, may be a bit intimidated to post more, but for now meh. Still waiting Vivax to own the game once more
I don't think m!Ryan here. Care to talk about it? -ES
Sure, Ben!
I don't like his opening while forcing people to say if they're the cop or not. Just ask for the cop to claim and move on? Also, if I got it right (I might have interpreted it wrong) if I said I was the cop he could think I was mafia fakeclaiming. If he thinks cop claiming is 100% the best option for town, why would I be mafia fakeclaiming?
On September 18 2020 04:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay so much for the confusion, just google number four + klaus + ben. I had my laughs :D
Let's play mafia. Monadel do you think anything sticks out as fishy atm?
No I don't.
I think what Glowingbear is saying is an unescessary over explanation on "the cop should claim" but I dont think it makes him mafia
Why?
Actually I agree. The cop gets n0 check then they need do claim.. 5v2 we get a red check for the cop is a good trade. I think cop shouldn't claim until d2 though.
Rayn why push for a cop claim n0?
To be fair I like the idea of having cop claiming n0 so the doctor knows who to protect. It either forces mafia to fakeclaim or doctor hunt. They will have 25% chance of hitting doctor while we guarantee we have a cop with a check day1.
The problem is when we don't have a clear claim and the doctor can't find out who the cop is because they "assume" it's someone else. This only helps mafia.
On September 18 2020 04:10 Number 4 wrote: Detective Glowing Bear, I present myself ready for duty to destroy the mafia guys.
You might call me Number 4 from now on.
Wait, Copcake?
I am eversince.
And I'm inevitable
Good!
Now tell me sme of your reads?
^^
Rayn mafia Damdy meh You and CopCake detectives forever. Who can it be now? Monadel newbie on the forums, may be a bit intimidated to post more, but for now meh. Still waiting Vivax to own the game once more
I don't think m!Ryan here. Care to talk about it? -ES
Sure, Ben!
I don't like his opening while forcing people to say if they're the cop or not. Just ask for the cop to claim and move on? Also, if I got it right (I might have interpreted it wrong) if I said I was the cop he could think I was mafia fakeclaiming. If he thinks cop claiming is 100% the best option for town, why would I be mafia fakeclaiming?
Mafia can't fake claim n0? That's suicide. Oh you claim n0? We lynch into the two.
On September 18 2020 04:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay so much for the confusion, just google number four + klaus + ben. I had my laughs :D
Let's play mafia. Monadel do you think anything sticks out as fishy atm?
No I don't.
I think what Glowingbear is saying is an unescessary over explanation on "the cop should claim" but I dont think it makes him mafia
Why?
Actually I agree. The cop gets n0 check then they need do claim.. 5v2 we get a red check for the cop is a good trade. I think cop shouldn't claim until d2 though.
Rayn why push for a cop claim n0?
To be fair I like the idea of having cop claiming n0 so the doctor knows who to protect. It either forces mafia to fakeclaim or doctor hunt. They will have 25% chance of hitting doctor while we guarantee we have a cop with a check day1.
The problem is when we don't have a clear claim and the doctor can't find out who the cop is because they "assume" it's someone else. This only helps mafia.
I was about to ask for more reasons why cop should claim N0, but I guess, it just needs to be done, and I really prefer town winning if that's the case here. I really want to trust Rayn and yourself GB for this claim, and really hope that I'm doing the right thing by doing so.
Hi. I'm finally a blue role (cop here [not copcake]) in one of Hapa's games. Who should I check on my N0 action? I was thinking of Monadel since he's new or Number4 since it's a hydra role.
On September 18 2020 04:10 Number 4 wrote: Detective Glowing Bear, I present myself ready for duty to destroy the mafia guys.
You might call me Number 4 from now on.
Wait, Copcake?
I am eversince.
And I'm inevitable
Good!
Now tell me sme of your reads?
^^
Rayn mafia Damdy meh You and CopCake detectives forever. Who can it be now? Monadel newbie on the forums, may be a bit intimidated to post more, but for now meh. Still waiting Vivax to own the game once more
I don't think m!Ryan here. Care to talk about it? -ES
Sure, Ben!
I don't like his opening while forcing people to say if they're the cop or not. Just ask for the cop to claim and move on? Also, if I got it right (I might have interpreted it wrong) if I said I was the cop he could think I was mafia fakeclaiming. If he thinks cop claiming is 100% the best option for town, why would I be mafia fakeclaiming?
Mafia can't fake claim n0? That's suicide. Oh you claim n0? We lynch into the two.
On September 18 2020 04:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay so much for the confusion, just google number four + klaus + ben. I had my laughs :D
Let's play mafia. Monadel do you think anything sticks out as fishy atm?
No I don't.
I think what Glowingbear is saying is an unescessary over explanation on "the cop should claim" but I dont think it makes him mafia
Why?
Actually I agree. The cop gets n0 check then they need do claim.. 5v2 we get a red check for the cop is a good trade. I think cop shouldn't claim until d2 though.
Rayn why push for a cop claim n0?
To be fair I like the idea of having cop claiming n0 so the doctor knows who to protect. It either forces mafia to fakeclaim or doctor hunt. They will have 25% chance of hitting doctor while we guarantee we have a cop with a check day1.
The problem is when we don't have a clear claim and the doctor can't find out who the cop is because they "assume" it's someone else. This only helps mafia.
I was about to ask for more reasons why cop should claim N0, but I guess, it just needs to be done, and I really prefer town winning if that's the case here. I really want to trust Rayn and yourself GB for this claim, and really hope that I'm doing the right thing by doing so.
Hi. I'm finally a blue role (cop here [not copcake]) in one of Hapa's games. Who should I check on my N0 action? I was thinking of Monadel since he's new or Number4 since it's a hydra role.
You check whoever you want to and shut up for the rest of the night unless there is a counter claim.
On September 18 2020 04:10 Number 4 wrote: Detective Glowing Bear, I present myself ready for duty to destroy the mafia guys.
You might call me Number 4 from now on.
Wait, Copcake?
I am eversince.
And I'm inevitable
Good!
Now tell me sme of your reads?
^^
Rayn mafia Damdy meh You and CopCake detectives forever. Who can it be now? Monadel newbie on the forums, may be a bit intimidated to post more, but for now meh. Still waiting Vivax to own the game once more
I don't think m!Ryan here. Care to talk about it? -ES
Sure, Ben!
I don't like his opening while forcing people to say if they're the cop or not. Just ask for the cop to claim and move on? Also, if I got it right (I might have interpreted it wrong) if I said I was the cop he could think I was mafia fakeclaiming. If he thinks cop claiming is 100% the best option for town, why would I be mafia fakeclaiming?
Mafia can't fake claim n0? That's suicide. Oh you claim n0? We lynch into the two.
-ES
no its not.
Claim cop. See flip. Lynch who's wrong? Or am I being stupid? If mafia fake claims and doc saves cop and we have green flip then I'm 100% sure that makes them scum.
On September 18 2020 04:10 Number 4 wrote: Detective Glowing Bear, I present myself ready for duty to destroy the mafia guys.
You might call me Number 4 from now on.
Wait, Copcake?
I am eversince.
And I'm inevitable
Good!
Now tell me sme of your reads?
^^
Rayn mafia Damdy meh You and CopCake detectives forever. Who can it be now? Monadel newbie on the forums, may be a bit intimidated to post more, but for now meh. Still waiting Vivax to own the game once more
I don't think m!Ryan here. Care to talk about it? -ES
Sure, Ben!
I don't like his opening while forcing people to say if they're the cop or not. Just ask for the cop to claim and move on? Also, if I got it right (I might have interpreted it wrong) if I said I was the cop he could think I was mafia fakeclaiming. If he thinks cop claiming is 100% the best option for town, why would I be mafia fakeclaiming?
Mafia can't fake claim n0? That's suicide. Oh you claim n0? We lynch into the two.
-ES
It's not that mafia can't fakeclaim, it's that if he believes the cop should claim and with his question I immediately claim, why would he even foster the possibility of me being mafia for my answer?
On September 18 2020 04:13 GlowingBear wrote: [quote]
Wait, Copcake?
I am eversince.
And I'm inevitable
Good!
Now tell me sme of your reads?
^^
Rayn mafia Damdy meh You and CopCake detectives forever. Who can it be now? Monadel newbie on the forums, may be a bit intimidated to post more, but for now meh. Still waiting Vivax to own the game once more
I don't think m!Ryan here. Care to talk about it? -ES
Sure, Ben!
I don't like his opening while forcing people to say if they're the cop or not. Just ask for the cop to claim and move on? Also, if I got it right (I might have interpreted it wrong) if I said I was the cop he could think I was mafia fakeclaiming. If he thinks cop claiming is 100% the best option for town, why would I be mafia fakeclaiming?
Mafia can't fake claim n0? That's suicide. Oh you claim n0? We lynch into the two.
-ES
no its not.
Claim cop. See flip. Lynch who's wrong? Or am I being stupid? If mafia fake claims and doc saves cop and we have green flip then I'm 100% sure that makes them scum.
Because if the cop survives long enough there would be around 4 confirmed townies by day2. That's why they always have to claim.
On September 18 2020 04:16 Number 4 wrote: [quote]
I am eversince.
And I'm inevitable
Good!
Now tell me sme of your reads?
^^
Rayn mafia Damdy meh You and CopCake detectives forever. Who can it be now? Monadel newbie on the forums, may be a bit intimidated to post more, but for now meh. Still waiting Vivax to own the game once more
I don't think m!Ryan here. Care to talk about it? -ES
Sure, Ben!
I don't like his opening while forcing people to say if they're the cop or not. Just ask for the cop to claim and move on? Also, if I got it right (I might have interpreted it wrong) if I said I was the cop he could think I was mafia fakeclaiming. If he thinks cop claiming is 100% the best option for town, why would I be mafia fakeclaiming?
Mafia can't fake claim n0? That's suicide. Oh you claim n0? We lynch into the two.
-ES
no its not.
Claim cop. See flip. Lynch who's wrong? Or am I being stupid? If mafia fake claims and doc saves cop and we have green flip then I'm 100% sure that makes them scum.
Because if the cop survives long enough there would be around 4 confirmed townies by day2. That's why they always have to claim.
Oh that makes it reasonable for rayn to think I can be mafia rofl. Okay.
On September 18 2020 05:20 Number 4 wrote: Really that's 2. If mafia claims cop we have 1. If doc fake claims and we have town flip... Well that's both? Seems silly to me.
-ES
Hmm I don't get what you meant by the doc fake claiming.
On September 18 2020 05:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: Let's play mafia instead of this bs? Shockeyy is the cop so far, so who is mafia?
I think mechanics plays a big role in this game so I wouldn't drop this talk so fast.
But anyway, I think you're town (yeah, I called you mafia but I just wanted to have some discussion going on) mostly on gut feeling and I had a reason why would you fakeclaim cop as mafia right away but I forgot.
On September 18 2020 04:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay so much for the confusion, just google number four + klaus + ben. I had my laughs :D
Let's play mafia. Monadel do you think anything sticks out as fishy atm?
No I don't.
I think what Glowingbear is saying is an unescessary over explanation on "the cop should claim" but I dont think it makes him mafia
Why?
Actually I agree. The cop gets n0 check then they need do claim.. 5v2 we get a red check for the cop is a good trade. I think cop shouldn't claim until d2 though.
Rayn why push for a cop claim n0?
To be fair I like the idea of having cop claiming n0 so the doctor knows who to protect. It either forces mafia to fakeclaim or doctor hunt. They will have 25% chance of hitting doctor while we guarantee we have a cop with a check day1.
The problem is when we don't have a clear claim and the doctor can't find out who the cop is because they "assume" it's someone else. This only helps mafia.
I was about to ask for more reasons why cop should claim N0, but I guess, it just needs to be done, and I really prefer town winning if that's the case here. I really want to trust Rayn and yourself GB for this claim, and really hope that I'm doing the right thing by doing so.
Hi. I'm finally a blue role (cop here [not copcake]) in one of Hapa's games. Who should I check on my N0 action? I was thinking of Monadel since he's new or Number4 since it's a hydra role.
You check whoever you want to and shut up for the rest of the night unless there is a counter claim.
On September 18 2020 05:26 GlowingBear wrote: But anyway, I think you're town (yeah, I called you mafia but I just wanted to have some discussion going on) mostly on gut feeling and I had a reason why would you fakeclaim cop as mafia right away but I forgot.
why do you say this? you literally called me mafia because i "DIDNT fakeclaim cop as mafia"....
On September 18 2020 05:20 Number 4 wrote: Really that's 2. If mafia claims cop we have 1. If doc fake claims and we have town flip... Well that's both? Seems silly to me.
-ES
Hmm I don't get what you meant by the doc fake claiming.
On September 18 2020 05:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: Let's play mafia instead of this bs? Shockeyy is the cop so far, so who is mafia?
I think mechanics plays a big role in this game so I wouldn't drop this talk so fast.
But anyway, I think you're town (yeah, I called you mafia but I just wanted to have some discussion going on) mostly on gut feeling and I had a reason why would you fakeclaim cop as mafia right away but I forgot.
On September 18 2020 05:26 GlowingBear wrote: But anyway, I think you're town (yeah, I called you mafia but I just wanted to have some discussion going on) mostly on gut feeling and I had a reason why would you fakeclaim cop as mafia right away but I forgot.
why do you say this? you literally called me mafia because i "DIDNT fakeclaim cop as mafia"....
Hmm I don't remember saying this But talking about mechanics and the way you've approached the situation made me think you might be town. I just recently realized how claiming cop can be important for mafia.
On September 18 2020 04:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay so much for the confusion, just google number four + klaus + ben. I had my laughs :D
Let's play mafia. Monadel do you think anything sticks out as fishy atm?
No I don't.
I think what Glowingbear is saying is an unescessary over explanation on "the cop should claim" but I dont think it makes him mafia
Why?
Actually I agree. The cop gets n0 check then they need do claim.. 5v2 we get a red check for the cop is a good trade. I think cop shouldn't claim until d2 though.
Rayn why push for a cop claim n0?
To be fair I like the idea of having cop claiming n0 so the doctor knows who to protect. It either forces mafia to fakeclaim or doctor hunt. They will have 25% chance of hitting doctor while we guarantee we have a cop with a check day1.
The problem is when we don't have a clear claim and the doctor can't find out who the cop is because they "assume" it's someone else. This only helps mafia.
I was about to ask for more reasons why cop should claim N0, but I guess, it just needs to be done, and I really prefer town winning if that's the case here. I really want to trust Rayn and yourself GB for this claim, and really hope that I'm doing the right thing by doing so.
Hi. I'm finally a blue role (cop here [not copcake]) in one of Hapa's games. Who should I check on my N0 action? I was thinking of Monadel since he's new or Number4 since it's a hydra role.
You check whoever you want to and shut up for the rest of the night unless there is a counter claim.
On September 18 2020 05:20 Number 4 wrote: Really that's 2. If mafia claims cop we have 1. If doc fake claims and we have town flip... Well that's both? Seems silly to me.
-ES
Hmm I don't get what you meant by the doc fake claiming.
On September 18 2020 05:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: Let's play mafia instead of this bs? Shockeyy is the cop so far, so who is mafia?
I think mechanics plays a big role in this game so I wouldn't drop this talk so fast.
But anyway, I think you're town (yeah, I called you mafia but I just wanted to have some discussion going on) mostly on gut feeling and I had a reason why would you fakeclaim cop as mafia right away but I forgot.
It makes the game for now:
TOWN Rayn Shockey GB
NOT TOWN? Ben and Klaus Monadel Damdred Vivax
But you called us town
Why the sudden change of heart?
I am very sad detective Glowing Bear
Very very sad
I called you detective, dear international kiya! Not town yet. I still don't have reasons to believe you might be town. But calm down, I'm not calling you mafia either. Too early to do this to anyone here
On September 18 2020 05:26 GlowingBear wrote: But anyway, I think you're town (yeah, I called you mafia but I just wanted to have some discussion going on) mostly on gut feeling and I had a reason why would you fakeclaim cop as mafia right away but I forgot.
why do you say this? you literally called me mafia because i "DIDNT fakeclaim cop as mafia"....
On September 18 2020 05:26 GlowingBear wrote: But anyway, I think you're town (yeah, I called you mafia but I just wanted to have some discussion going on) mostly on gut feeling and I had a reason why would you fakeclaim cop as mafia right away but I forgot.
why do you say this? you literally called me mafia because i "DIDNT fakeclaim cop as mafia"....
Hmm I don't remember saying this But talking about mechanics and the way you've approached the situation made me think you might be town. I just recently realized how claiming cop can be important for mafia.
On September 18 2020 05:26 GlowingBear wrote: But anyway, I think you're town (yeah, I called you mafia but I just wanted to have some discussion going on) mostly on gut feeling and I had a reason why would you fakeclaim cop as mafia right away but I forgot.
why do you say this? you literally called me mafia because i "DIDNT fakeclaim cop as mafia"....
Hmm I don't remember saying this
you sure? :D
I meant I literally don't remember saying this rofl so no, I'm not sure
On September 18 2020 05:26 GlowingBear wrote: But anyway, I think you're town (yeah, I called you mafia but I just wanted to have some discussion going on) mostly on gut feeling and I had a reason why would you fakeclaim cop as mafia right away but I forgot.
why do you say this? you literally called me mafia because i "DIDNT fakeclaim cop as mafia"....
Hmm I don't remember saying this But talking about mechanics and the way you've approached the situation made me think you might be town. I just recently realized how claiming cop can be important for mafia.
It is important for town, not for mafia.
Hmm, sorry, I guess I didn't understand your reasoning why it's not good for mafia to fakeclaim
On September 18 2020 05:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: Let's play mafia instead of this bs?
Rayn, I've made a list and asked you why do you think Damdred is town. But meanwhile I really want to get through the mechanics because I think it will help us predict mafia behaviour
For mafia is not important, it is for town so it can be protected by the doctor. Mafia can’t give shit about it if the cop claims or not, they are going to kill someone anyways at night (more likely with the claim).
On September 18 2020 05:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: Let's play mafia instead of this bs?
Rayn, I've made a list and asked you why do you think Damdred is town. But meanwhile I really want to get through the mechanics because I think it will help us predict mafia behaviour
I just think Damdred would be more involved as mafia, and his posts seemed carefree and not like... idk, forced? Like he agreed to stuff and didnt try to push it into any direction of their liking (as mafia tends to do).
It is not a strong read but for now it is good enough for me (i dont even know what it matters because it is night lol).
I dont know why we should discuss mechanics more than "cop should claim" (done)???????
On September 18 2020 05:39 Number 4 wrote: How claiming cop is important for mafia.
For mafia is not important, it is for town so it can be protected by the doctor. Mafia can’t give shit about it if the cop claims or not, they are going to kill someone anyways at night (more likely with the claim).
Idk if I explained it right.
5v2 n0, 1cop check, confirms 1 player 4v2 d1, 2 confirmed townies, 1 doctor claim. Assuming no fake claims, 66,66% of a scum lynch. The only way mafia can win after this is if they don't get lynched because, if they get lynched 4v1 d1, cop protected, doctor dies Mafia is either checked or the remaining townie is checked, GG.
On September 18 2020 05:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay sue me for it.
Nonono it's fine. Do you now understand why I think you might be town?
not really, but educate me pls
You clearly thought about mechanics when starting the day You clearly knew that claiming cop is the best choice for mafia, so doing it right away would grant it credibility You didn't do that. Hence, you're probably town.
On September 18 2020 05:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay sue me for it.
Nonono it's fine. Do you now understand why I think you might be town?
not really, but educate me pls
You clearly thought about mechanics when starting the day You clearly knew that claiming cop is the best choice for mafia, so doing it right away would grant it credibility You didn't do that. Hence, you're probably town.
On September 18 2020 05:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: Let's play mafia instead of this bs?
Rayn, I've made a list and asked you why do you think Damdred is town. But meanwhile I really want to get through the mechanics because I think it will help us predict mafia behaviour
I just think Damdred would be more involved as mafia, and his posts seemed carefree and not like... idk, forced? Like he agreed to stuff and didnt try to push it into any direction of their liking (as mafia tends to do).
It is not a strong read but for now it is good enough for me (i dont even know what it matters because it is night lol).
I dont know why we should discuss mechanics more than "cop should claim" (done)???????
I disagree, I think he would be more involved if he was town. All he did was saying you're town because reasons and I was probably town because reasons before doing something irrelevant like taking care of his child
On September 18 2020 05:26 GlowingBear wrote: But anyway, I think you're town (yeah, I called you mafia but I just wanted to have some discussion going on) mostly on gut feeling and I had a reason why would you fakeclaim cop as mafia right away but I forgot.
why do you say this? you literally called me mafia because i "DIDNT fakeclaim cop as mafia"....
Hmm I don't remember saying this But talking about mechanics and the way you've approached the situation made me think you might be town. I just recently realized how claiming cop can be important for mafia.
On September 18 2020 05:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay sue me for it.
Nonono it's fine. Do you now understand why I think you might be town?
not really, but educate me pls
You clearly thought about mechanics when starting the day You clearly knew that claiming cop is the best choice for mafia, so doing it right away would grant it credibility You didn't do that. Hence, you're probably town.
On September 18 2020 05:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay sue me for it.
Nonono it's fine. Do you now understand why I think you might be town?
not really, but educate me pls
You clearly thought about mechanics when starting the day You clearly knew that claiming cop is the best choice for mafia, so doing it right away would grant it credibility You didn't do that. Hence, you're probably town.
How about now?
Er? He started off with cop claim? I'm confused.
There is a really really really small "not" in his post.
On September 18 2020 05:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: Let's play mafia instead of this bs?
Rayn, I've made a list and asked you why do you think Damdred is town. But meanwhile I really want to get through the mechanics because I think it will help us predict mafia behaviour
I just think Damdred would be more involved as mafia, and his posts seemed carefree and not like... idk, forced? Like he agreed to stuff and didnt try to push it into any direction of their liking (as mafia tends to do).
It is not a strong read but for now it is good enough for me (i dont even know what it matters because it is night lol).
I dont know why we should discuss mechanics more than "cop should claim" (done)???????
I disagree, I think he would be more involved if he was town. All he did was saying you're town because reasons and I was probably town because reasons before doing something irrelevant like taking care of his child
Okay. I agree to the point where i also wish he was more involved.
On September 18 2020 05:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay sue me for it.
Nonono it's fine. Do you now understand why I think you might be town?
not really, but educate me pls
You clearly thought about mechanics when starting the day You clearly knew that claiming cop is the best choice for mafia, so doing it right away would grant it credibility You didn't do that. Hence, you're probably town.
How about now?
Er? He started off with cop claim? I'm confused.
There is a really really really small "not" in his post.
Ok, Eversince and me agreed to do this. We are the cop. Shockey’s claim is bullshit.
I was thinking in playing a little bit and do not claim, then when I read GB’s post about the 5v2 let me realize that if Shockey is mafia fake claiming then we are screwed since we need the protection of the doctor now because ever asked shockey to talk in two posts so that is kinda an out.
I honestly think GB is mafia, and that is the check I sent btw.
On September 18 2020 05:56 Number 4 wrote: Ok, Eversince and me agreed to do this. We are the cop. Shockey’s claim is bullshit.
I was thinking in playing a little bit and do not claim, then when I read GB’s post about the 5v2 let me realize that if Shockey is mafia fake claiming then we are screwed since we need the protection of the doctor now because ever asked shockey to talk in two posts so that is kinda an out.
I honestly think GB is mafia, and that is the check I sent btw.
On September 18 2020 05:56 Number 4 wrote: Ok, Eversince and me agreed to do this. We are the cop. Shockey’s claim is bullshit.
I was thinking in playing a little bit and do not claim, then when I read GB’s post about the 5v2 let me realize that if Shockey is mafia fake claiming then we are screwed since we need the protection of the doctor now because ever asked shockey to talk in two posts so that is kinda an out.
I honestly think GB is mafia, and that is the check I sent btw.
So that is all.
So You've thought rayn was fakeclaiming, no suspicions whatsoever And that Shockey's claim was bullshit and that's why is mafia And NEITHER of you realized rayn said he is NOT the cop.
On September 18 2020 05:56 Number 4 wrote: Ok, Eversince and me agreed to do this. We are the cop. Shockey’s claim is bullshit.
I was thinking in playing a little bit and do not claim, then when I read GB’s post about the 5v2 let me realize that if Shockey is mafia fake claiming then we are screwed since we need the protection of the doctor now because ever asked shockey to talk in two posts so that is kinda an out.
I honestly think GB is mafia, and that is the check I sent btw.
So that is all.
So You've thought rayn was fakeclaiming, no suspicions whatsoever And that Shockey's claim was bullshit and that's why is mafia And NEITHER of you realized rayn said he is NOT the cop.
I don't think I follow this
That one was ever, she read wrong and she also reacted when shockey claimed cop, so it is safer we just out right now.
On September 18 2020 05:56 Number 4 wrote: Ok, Eversince and me agreed to do this. We are the cop. Shockey’s claim is bullshit.
I was thinking in playing a little bit and do not claim, then when I read GB’s post about the 5v2 let me realize that if Shockey is mafia fake claiming then we are screwed since we need the protection of the doctor now because ever asked shockey to talk in two posts so that is kinda an out.
I honestly think GB is mafia, and that is the check I sent btw.
So that is all.
So You've thought rayn was fakeclaiming, no suspicions whatsoever And that Shockey's claim was bullshit and that's why is mafia And NEITHER of you realized rayn said he is NOT the cop.
I don't think I follow this
That one was ever, she read wrong and she also reacted when shockey claimed cop, so it is safer we just out right now.
So you did realize he wasn't fakeclaiming? Why didn't you tell Eversince?
On September 18 2020 05:56 Number 4 wrote: Ok, Eversince and me agreed to do this. We are the cop. Shockey’s claim is bullshit.
I was thinking in playing a little bit and do not claim, then when I read GB’s post about the 5v2 let me realize that if Shockey is mafia fake claiming then we are screwed since we need the protection of the doctor now because ever asked shockey to talk in two posts so that is kinda an out.
I honestly think GB is mafia, and that is the check I sent btw.
So that is all.
So You've thought rayn was fakeclaiming, no suspicions whatsoever And that Shockey's claim was bullshit and that's why is mafia And NEITHER of you realized rayn said he is NOT the cop.
I don't think I follow this
I also posted I was going to check hydra N0, and now they're trying to counter claim me. FISHY AS FUCK.
On September 18 2020 05:56 Number 4 wrote: Ok, Eversince and me agreed to do this. We are the cop. Shockey’s claim is bullshit.
I was thinking in playing a little bit and do not claim, then when I read GB’s post about the 5v2 let me realize that if Shockey is mafia fake claiming then we are screwed since we need the protection of the doctor now because ever asked shockey to talk in two posts so that is kinda an out.
I honestly think GB is mafia, and that is the check I sent btw.
So that is all.
So You've thought rayn was fakeclaiming, no suspicions whatsoever And that Shockey's claim was bullshit and that's why is mafia And NEITHER of you realized rayn said he is NOT the cop.
I don't think I follow this
That one was ever, she read wrong and she also reacted when shockey claimed cop, so it is safer we just out right now.
There is no reason for rayn to fake claim. And yes I'm getting old and can't read well anymore. So you have just one post to convince me why he's mafia. Be aware rayn literally teached me here. I talk to him off site bits too. Convince me.
On September 18 2020 05:56 Number 4 wrote: Ok, Eversince and me agreed to do this. We are the cop. Shockey’s claim is bullshit.
I was thinking in playing a little bit and do not claim, then when I read GB’s post about the 5v2 let me realize that if Shockey is mafia fake claiming then we are screwed since we need the protection of the doctor now because ever asked shockey to talk in two posts so that is kinda an out.
I honestly think GB is mafia, and that is the check I sent btw.
So that is all.
So You've thought rayn was fakeclaiming, no suspicions whatsoever And that Shockey's claim was bullshit and that's why is mafia And NEITHER of you realized rayn said he is NOT the cop.
I don't think I follow this
That one was ever, she read wrong and she also reacted when shockey claimed cop, so it is safer we just out right now.
So you did realize he wasn't fakeclaiming? Why didn't you tell Eversince?
She/he wasnt posting in our qt and I dont feel like logging out and use my main account to tell her/him that.
On September 18 2020 05:56 Number 4 wrote: Ok, Eversince and me agreed to do this. We are the cop. Shockey’s claim is bullshit.
I was thinking in playing a little bit and do not claim, then when I read GB’s post about the 5v2 let me realize that if Shockey is mafia fake claiming then we are screwed since we need the protection of the doctor now because ever asked shockey to talk in two posts so that is kinda an out.
I honestly think GB is mafia, and that is the check I sent btw.
So that is all.
So You've thought rayn was fakeclaiming, no suspicions whatsoever And that Shockey's claim was bullshit and that's why is mafia And NEITHER of you realized rayn said he is NOT the cop.
I don't think I follow this
That one was ever, she read wrong and she also reacted when shockey claimed cop, so it is safer we just out right now.
i mean safer than what?
Than playing dumb
My plan was to play dumb but then I realized ever kinda outed herself with her/his reaction.
On September 18 2020 06:06 Number 4 wrote: There is no reason for rayn to fake claim. And yes I'm getting old and can't read well anymore. So you have just one post to convince me why he's mafia. Be aware rayn literally teached me here. I talk to him off site bits too. Convince me.
Girls, I suggest you sign your posts because it is kinda hard to follow up
I don't think he is mafia, I've said it recently more than one time.
I'm just trying to understand in which world both of you did not see the "not" and yet considered he was fakeclaiming.
On September 18 2020 06:06 Number 4 wrote: There is no reason for rayn to fake claim. And yes I'm getting old and can't read well anymore. So you have just one post to convince me why he's mafia. Be aware rayn literally teached me here. I talk to him off site bits too. Convince me.
Girls, I suggest you sign your posts because it is kinda hard to follow up
I don't think he is mafia, I've said it recently more than one time.
I'm just trying to understand in which world both of you did not see the "not" and yet considered he was fakeclaiming.
She read wrong, dont make it bigger.
Me as cake never considered rayn as mafia for that joke fake claim.
I think you are focusing too much on eversince and her reading wrong the rayn fake claim than actually checking the facts or do a shockey vs eversince.
And that is why I think you are mafia.
Btw for those who dont know or are new, there was a game in which rayn fake claimed cop (but I was the cop) and I never counter claimed, so yeah that is it if you need “meta”
On September 18 2020 06:06 Number 4 wrote: There is no reason for rayn to fake claim. And yes I'm getting old and can't read well anymore. So you have just one post to convince me why he's mafia. Be aware rayn literally teached me here. I talk to him off site bits too. Convince me.
Girls, I suggest you sign your posts because it is kinda hard to follow up
I don't think he is mafia, I've said it recently more than one time.
I'm just trying to understand in which world both of you did not see the "not" and yet considered he was fakeclaiming.
I'll try my bestest!
It was obviously a fake claim. We played along for information. Also this bird is blind .
On September 18 2020 05:20 Number 4 wrote: Really that's 2. If mafia claims cop we have 1. If doc fake claims and we have town flip... Well that's both? Seems silly to me.
-ES
I must say it's kinda hard to believe that you're the cop when you post this I would be so hyped to start Shockey's inquisition if I was the cop.
On September 18 2020 06:08 Number 4 wrote: ever kinda outed herself with her/his reaction.
what is this reaction?
#139 and #144 the one I confused and believed you posted, you asked shockey to shut up because he claimed cop but ever went against you.
If shockey is mafia he probably now knows ever is more likely the cop for how she reacted, since you are a very vocal person and ever is more of a quiet/cute kind of person.
On September 18 2020 06:06 Number 4 wrote: There is no reason for rayn to fake claim. And yes I'm getting old and can't read well anymore. So you have just one post to convince me why he's mafia. Be aware rayn literally teached me here. I talk to him off site bits too. Convince me.
Girls, I suggest you sign your posts because it is kinda hard to follow up
I don't think he is mafia, I've said it recently more than one time.
I'm just trying to understand in which world both of you did not see the "not" and yet considered he was fakeclaiming.
She read wrong, dont make it bigger.
Me as cake never considered rayn as mafia for that joke fake claim.
I think you are focusing too much on eversince and her reading wrong the rayn fake claim than actually checking the facts or do a shockey vs eversince.
And that is why I think you are mafia.
Btw for those who dont know or are new, there was a game in which rayn fake claimed cop (but I was the cop) and I never counter claimed, so yeah that is it if you need “meta”
All I'm saying is that if you see someone fakeclaiming and you are the actual cop you would probably go after him. It didn't happen. But looking at it again, even if you didn't see the "not", it is fair to assume he was joking. So I'll drop this.
About the meta thing, meh. I am checking all the facts I can to be honestly and I still don't understand why you think I might be mafia lol
On September 18 2020 05:20 Number 4 wrote: Really that's 2. If mafia claims cop we have 1. If doc fake claims and we have town flip... Well that's both? Seems silly to me.
-ES
I must say it's kinda hard to believe that you're the cop when you post this I would be so hyped to start Shockey's inquisition if I was the cop.
Why dont you like, idk... check the time and compare shockey and us?
Because you are focusing too much in us and shockey is like 0000000.
On September 18 2020 06:06 Number 4 wrote: There is no reason for rayn to fake claim. And yes I'm getting old and can't read well anymore. So you have just one post to convince me why he's mafia. Be aware rayn literally teached me here. I talk to him off site bits too. Convince me.
Girls, I suggest you sign your posts because it is kinda hard to follow up
I don't think he is mafia, I've said it recently more than one time.
I'm just trying to understand in which world both of you did not see the "not" and yet considered he was fakeclaiming.
She read wrong, dont make it bigger.
Me as cake never considered rayn as mafia for that joke fake claim.
I think you are focusing too much on eversince and her reading wrong the rayn fake claim than actually checking the facts or do a shockey vs eversince.
And that is why I think you are mafia.
Btw for those who dont know or are new, there was a game in which rayn fake claimed cop (but I was the cop) and I never counter claimed, so yeah that is it if you need “meta”
All I'm saying is that if you see someone fakeclaiming and you are the actual cop you would probably go after him. It didn't happen. But looking at it again, even if you didn't see the "not", it is fair to assume he was joking. So I'll drop this.
About the meta thing, meh. I am checking all the facts I can to be honestly and I still don't understand why you think I might be mafia lol
For fuck sake we are hydras and eversince is very polite she would never do something without both of us agreeing, me neither. I read our hydra qt and the first post she made was that we should out asap.
If she didnt out earlier is because I didnt read her message.
On September 18 2020 05:20 Number 4 wrote: Really that's 2. If mafia claims cop we have 1. If doc fake claims and we have town flip... Well that's both? Seems silly to me.
-ES
I must say it's kinda hard to believe that you're the cop when you post this I would be so hyped to start Shockey's inquisition if I was the cop.
Why dont you like, idk... check the time and compare shockey and us?
Because you are focusing too much in us and shockey is like 0000000.
Because his claim makes sense and yours doesn't, sorry. ES reaction was... weal compared to the hype you get when you catch mafia fakeclaiming.
It makes more sense to realize mafia needs to fakeclaim and saying "ok we need to fakeclaim"
On September 18 2020 06:06 Number 4 wrote: There is no reason for rayn to fake claim. And yes I'm getting old and can't read well anymore. So you have just one post to convince me why he's mafia. Be aware rayn literally teached me here. I talk to him off site bits too. Convince me.
Girls, I suggest you sign your posts because it is kinda hard to follow up
I don't think he is mafia, I've said it recently more than one time.
I'm just trying to understand in which world both of you did not see the "not" and yet considered he was fakeclaiming.
She read wrong, dont make it bigger.
Me as cake never considered rayn as mafia for that joke fake claim.
I think you are focusing too much on eversince and her reading wrong the rayn fake claim than actually checking the facts or do a shockey vs eversince.
And that is why I think you are mafia.
Btw for those who dont know or are new, there was a game in which rayn fake claimed cop (but I was the cop) and I never counter claimed, so yeah that is it if you need “meta”
All I'm saying is that if you see someone fakeclaiming and you are the actual cop you would probably go after him. It didn't happen. But looking at it again, even if you didn't see the "not", it is fair to assume he was joking. So I'll drop this.
About the meta thing, meh. I am checking all the facts I can to be honestly and I still don't understand why you think I might be mafia lol
For fuck sake we are hydras and eversince is very polite she would never do something without both of us agreeing, me neither. I read our hydra qt and the first post she made was that we should out asap.
If she didnt out earlier is because I didnt read her message.
I don't have access to your QT, cake, I can't know this if you don't post this in thread
On September 18 2020 06:06 Number 4 wrote: There is no reason for rayn to fake claim. And yes I'm getting old and can't read well anymore. So you have just one post to convince me why he's mafia. Be aware rayn literally teached me here. I talk to him off site bits too. Convince me.
Girls, I suggest you sign your posts because it is kinda hard to follow up
I don't think he is mafia, I've said it recently more than one time.
I'm just trying to understand in which world both of you did not see the "not" and yet considered he was fakeclaiming.
She read wrong, dont make it bigger.
Me as cake never considered rayn as mafia for that joke fake claim.
I think you are focusing too much on eversince and her reading wrong the rayn fake claim than actually checking the facts or do a shockey vs eversince.
And that is why I think you are mafia.
Btw for those who dont know or are new, there was a game in which rayn fake claimed cop (but I was the cop) and I never counter claimed, so yeah that is it if you need “meta”
All I'm saying is that if you see someone fakeclaiming and you are the actual cop you would probably go after him. It didn't happen. But looking at it again, even if you didn't see the "not", it is fair to assume he was joking. So I'll drop this.
About the meta thing, meh. I am checking all the facts I can to be honestly and I still don't understand why you think I might be mafia lol
For fuck sake we are hydras and eversince is very polite she would never do something without both of us agreeing, me neither. I read our hydra qt and the first post she made was that we should out asap.
If she didnt out earlier is because I didnt read her message.
I don't have access to your QT, cake, I can't know this if you don't post this in thread
Ofc you dont have access, I am explaining the reason of why us (or most likely her) didnt counter claim asap.
If shockey is mafia he probably now knows ever is more likely the cop for how she reacted, since you are a very vocal person and ever is more of a quiet/cute kind of person.
On September 18 2020 05:20 Number 4 wrote: Really that's 2. If mafia claims cop we have 1. If doc fake claims and we have town flip... Well that's both? Seems silly to me.
-ES
I must say it's kinda hard to believe that you're the cop when you post this I would be so hyped to start Shockey's inquisition if I was the cop.
Why dont you like, idk... check the time and compare shockey and us?
Because you are focusing too much in us and shockey is like 0000000.
Because his claim makes sense and yours doesn't, sorry. ES reaction was... weal compared to the hype you get when you catch mafia fakeclaiming.
It makes more sense to realize mafia needs to fakeclaim and saying "ok we need to fakeclaim"
Wells we know who mafia between two very soon is.
Mafia is outs their mind if they claim here. Reasons rayn is town.
If shockey is mafia he probably now knows ever is more likely the cop for how she reacted, since you are a very vocal person and ever is more of a quiet/cute kind of person.
If shockeyy is mafia???????????????????
Yes
But then he denied he wasnt fake claiming or joking so now he is mafia.
If shockey is mafia he probably now knows ever is more likely the cop for how she reacted, since you are a very vocal person and ever is more of a quiet/cute kind of person.
If shockeyy is mafia???????????????????
Yes
But then he denied he wasnt fake claiming or joking so now he is mafia.
If shockey is mafia he probably now knows ever is more likely the cop for how she reacted, since you are a very vocal person and ever is more of a quiet/cute kind of person.
If shockeyy is mafia???????????????????
Yes
But then he denied he wasnt fake claiming or joking so now he is mafia.
Why do you have to say IF IF IF IFI FIFIFIFI shockeyy is mafia??? You fucking know if he is mafia or not and if he is yopu should be proving he is instead of guessing if he is....
If shockey is mafia he probably now knows ever is more likely the cop for how she reacted, since you are a very vocal person and ever is more of a quiet/cute kind of person.
If shockeyy is mafia???????????????????
Yes
But then he denied he wasnt fake claiming or joking so now he is mafia.
Why do you have to say IF IF IF IFI FIFIFIFI shockeyy is mafia??? You fucking know if he is mafia or not and if he is yopu should be proving he is instead of guessing if he is....
If shockey is mafia he probably now knows ever is more likely the cop for how she reacted, since you are a very vocal person and ever is more of a quiet/cute kind of person.
If shockeyy is mafia???????????????????
Yes
But then he denied he wasnt fake claiming or joking so now he is mafia.
Why do you have to say IF IF IF IFI FIFIFIFI shockeyy is mafia??? You fucking know if he is mafia or not and if he is yopu should be proving he is instead of guessing if he is....
You are so bad at this game now.
so you are a cop and you are GUESSING if your COUNTER CLAIM is mafia or not and i am bad? really?
If shockey is mafia he probably now knows ever is more likely the cop for how she reacted, since you are a very vocal person and ever is more of a quiet/cute kind of person.
If shockeyy is mafia???????????????????
Yes
But then he denied he wasnt fake claiming or joking so now he is mafia.
Why do you have to say IF IF IF IFI FIFIFIFI shockeyy is mafia??? You fucking know if he is mafia or not and if he is yopu should be proving he is instead of guessing if he is....
You are so bad at this game now.
you can call me bad all you want every single day of my life, but not here. not here. either you are mafia or you are bad, not me.
Number 4, listen: if you're the actual cop, no townie can possibly know that. It is normal to be inquired. So, it would be helpful if you can clear any doubt regarding your claim instead of deflecting to Shockey. Solving the game isn't 100% of it, you still have to convince the other players.
If shockey is mafia he probably now knows ever is more likely the cop for how she reacted, since you are a very vocal person and ever is more of a quiet/cute kind of person.
If shockeyy is mafia???????????????????
Yes
But then he denied he wasnt fake claiming or joking so now he is mafia.
Why do you have to say IF IF IF IFI FIFIFIFI shockeyy is mafia??? You fucking know if he is mafia or not and if he is yopu should be proving he is instead of guessing if he is....
You are so bad at this game now.
so you are a cop and you are GUESSING if your COUNTER CLAIM is mafia or not and i am bad? really?
There was a chance he was joking. 🙄 and I wanted to see how it played out, my original plan was to play dumb and claim the next day with my GB check but alas, I realized that if shockey is mafia then it is not safe for us to do this because ever kinda outed herself confronting shockey.
On September 18 2020 05:56 Number 4 wrote: Ok, Eversince and me agreed to do this. We are the cop. Shockey’s claim is bullshit.
I was thinking in playing a little bit and do not claim, then when I read GB’s post about the 5v2 let me realize that if Shockey is mafia fake claiming then we are screwed since we need the protection of the doctor now because ever asked shockey to talk in two posts so that is kinda an out.
I honestly think GB is mafia, and that is the check I sent btw.
So that is all.
So You've thought rayn was fakeclaiming, no suspicions whatsoever And that Shockey's claim was bullshit and that's why is mafia And NEITHER of you realized rayn said he is NOT the cop.
I don't think I follow this
I also posted I was going to check hydra N0, and now they're trying to counter claim me. FISHY AS FUCK.
On April 14 2012 09:46 Tunkeg wrote: Yeah, BH you will just post town on anyone you have claimed to check tomorrow. I on the other hand will post town, scum or doc even.
That's interesting, because my checks only return as town or scum...
On September 18 2020 05:56 Number 4 wrote: Ok, Eversince and me agreed to do this. We are the cop. Shockey’s claim is bullshit.
I was thinking in playing a little bit and do not claim, then when I read GB’s post about the 5v2 let me realize that if Shockey is mafia fake claiming then we are screwed since we need the protection of the doctor now because ever asked shockey to talk in two posts so that is kinda an out.
I honestly think GB is mafia, and that is the check I sent btw.
So that is all.
So You've thought rayn was fakeclaiming, no suspicions whatsoever And that Shockey's claim was bullshit and that's why is mafia And NEITHER of you realized rayn said he is NOT the cop.
I don't think I follow this
I also posted I was going to check hydra N0, and now they're trying to counter claim me. FISHY AS FUCK.
I also think it's
Lynch this scum.
Cake put it in, your call. I'm at 98% now. Ruin this.
The “smart” people are saying we look the worst, we probably do. I give up after those “jokes” because they are kinda saying you didnt read your pm right or you are fake claiming.
On September 18 2020 06:52 Number 4 wrote: I think it is kinda over for us ever
The “smart” people are saying we look the worst, we probably do. I give up after those “jokes” because they are kinda saying you didnt read your pm right or you are fake claiming.
Fun fact, my pm at least says I can investigate.
Gg.
Nah I'll fight this into a 6 foot hole. If I've put in the effort of solving the game in 4 hours.. I will cry myself to sleep if I get lynched.
On September 18 2020 06:59 Number 4 wrote: Rayn if you let us get flipped please clean house.
Shock your claims about as sturdy as wet noodles. I can back mine up. You cant, I know this. So you pushing it means me or you.
I absolutely can back mine up 200% more than you can. I got the role pm to prove it, and will have a check for D1 outside of you. You on the other hand will immediately post that you checked me, and that I'm mafia. I already see your play 100 miles away.
On September 18 2020 06:59 Number 4 wrote: Rayn if you let us get flipped please clean house.
Shock your claims about as sturdy as wet noodles. I can back mine up. You cant, I know this. So you pushing it means me or you.
I absolutely can back mine up 200% more than you can. I got the role pm to prove it, and will have a check for D1 outside of you. You on the other hand will immediately post that you checked me, and that I'm mafia. I already see your play 100 miles away.
Oh ok. I have a role pm. Im not petty to use that. If you weren't lying you know it isn't d2 for a response. Hey a friend it's n0and we have a check this night hum. Sit down sir.
On September 18 2020 07:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: Now i am gonna be interested in who YOU are gonna check Shockeyy?
Possibly Vivax just cause him and I have had our quarrels in the past few games, or Dadred only cause that fucker was mafia last game... and I was fooled.
On September 18 2020 07:06 Dadred wrote: Shockeys claim looks more natural I think....
that's it game is solved
Took us 4 hours? Hooray hun!
If it was a 30 player game i would totally be lynching you two for you bullshit nonsense that doesnt even make any sense ever.....
Yeah but most of the real claims are a bit clunky and illogical. It felt more and more that they were telling the truth and Shockey wasn't really invested in hunting.
On September 18 2020 07:06 Dadred wrote: Shockeys claim looks more natural I think....
that's it game is solved
Took us 4 hours? Hooray hun!
If it was a 30 player game i would totally be lynching you two for you bullshit nonsense that doesnt even make any sense ever.....
Yeah but most of the real claims are a bit clunky and illogical. It felt more and more that they were telling the truth and Shockey wasn't really invested in hunting.
What the fuck are you guys smoking???? I'm invested... I'm literally checking players outside of the person who counter claimed me. It's N0, and I have the best action to help finding mafia. Now town is going to decide I'm mafia because Dadred said I looked more natural? Where the hell is the logic in that.
On September 18 2020 07:06 Dadred wrote: Shockeys claim looks more natural I think....
that's it game is solved
Took us 4 hours? Hooray hun!
If it was a 30 player game i would totally be lynching you two for you bullshit nonsense that doesnt even make any sense ever.....
Yeah but most of the real claims are a bit clunky and illogical. It felt more and more that they were telling the truth and Shockey wasn't really invested in hunting.
What the fuck are you guys smoking???? I'm invested... I'm literally checking players outside of the person who counter claimed me. It's N0, and I have the best action to help finding mafia. Now town is going to decide I'm mafia because Dadred said I looked more natural? Where the hell is the logic in that.
This is point. Doc saves me or mafia. You are mafia. Good day family!
On September 18 2020 07:06 Dadred wrote: Shockeys claim looks more natural I think....
that's it game is solved
Took us 4 hours? Hooray hun!
If it was a 30 player game i would totally be lynching you two for you bullshit nonsense that doesnt even make any sense ever.....
Yeah but most of the real claims are a bit clunky and illogical. It felt more and more that they were telling the truth and Shockey wasn't really invested in hunting.
What the fuck are you guys smoking???? I'm invested... I'm literally checking players outside of the person who counter claimed me. It's N0, and I have the best action to help finding mafia. Now town is going to decide I'm mafia because Dadred said I looked more natural? Where the hell is the logic in that.
On September 18 2020 04:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay so much for the confusion, just google number four + klaus + ben. I had my laughs :D
Let's play mafia. Monadel do you think anything sticks out as fishy atm?
No I don't.
I think what Glowingbear is saying is an unescessary over explanation on "the cop should claim" but I dont think it makes him mafia
Why?
Actually I agree. The cop gets n0 check then they need do claim.. 5v2 we get a red check for the cop is a good trade. I think cop shouldn't claim until d2 though.
Rayn why push for a cop claim n0?
To be fair I like the idea of having cop claiming n0 so the doctor knows who to protect. It either forces mafia to fakeclaim or doctor hunt. They will have 25% chance of hitting doctor while we guarantee we have a cop with a check day1.
The problem is when we don't have a clear claim and the doctor can't find out who the cop is because they "assume" it's someone else. This only helps mafia.
I was about to ask for more reasons why cop should claim N0, but I guess, it just needs to be done, and I really prefer town winning if that's the case here. I really want to trust Rayn and yourself GB for this claim, and really hope that I'm doing the right thing by doing so.
Hi. I'm finally a blue role (cop here [not copcake]) in one of Hapa's games. Who should I check on my N0 action? I was thinking of Monadel since he's new or Number4 since it's a hydra role.
This is the most artificial shit i have ever heard, sorry,
On September 18 2020 07:06 Dadred wrote: Shockeys claim looks more natural I think....
that's it game is solved
Took us 4 hours? Hooray hun!
If it was a 30 player game i would totally be lynching you two for you bullshit nonsense that doesnt even make any sense ever.....
Yeah but most of the real claims are a bit clunky and illogical. It felt more and more that they were telling the truth and Shockey wasn't really invested in hunting.
yes. i bank my game on if doc docs #4 and shockeyy dies and is a cop we lose, and that's on me, you can lynch me D1. There is no way shockeyy is the real cop, and if it is so you can always blame me forever 100%
On September 18 2020 07:06 Dadred wrote: Shockeys claim looks more natural I think....
that's it game is solved
Took us 4 hours? Hooray hun!
If it was a 30 player game i would totally be lynching you two for you bullshit nonsense that doesnt even make any sense ever.....
Yeah but most of the real claims are a bit clunky and illogical. It felt more and more that they were telling the truth and Shockey wasn't really invested in hunting.
What the fuck are you guys smoking???? I'm invested... I'm literally checking players outside of the person who counter claimed me. It's N0, and I have the best action to help finding mafia. Now town is going to decide I'm mafia because Dadred said I looked more natural? Where the hell is the logic in that.
It's not that you're mafia because Damdred said you're town, it's that Damdred is mafia because he said you're town.
You have been present but you are acting like you know me and rayn are town. You haven't directed a single post towards our direction like you don't know we are town.
On September 18 2020 07:06 Dadred wrote: Shockeys claim looks more natural I think....
that's it game is solved
Took us 4 hours? Hooray hun!
If it was a 30 player game i would totally be lynching you two for you bullshit nonsense that doesnt even make any sense ever.....
Yeah but most of the real claims are a bit clunky and illogical. It felt more and more that they were telling the truth and Shockey wasn't really invested in hunting.
yes. i bank my game on if doc docs #4 and shockeyy dies and is a cop we lose, and that's on me, you can lynch me D1. There is no way shockeyy is the real cop, and if it is so you can always blame me forever 100%
Nah, we are on the exact same page. I also felt Shockey's claim was artificial and the girls' posts were sounding townie when we kept pushing them.
I'm not 100% on Damdred but boy saying that Shockey's post was more natural is far from the truth
On September 18 2020 07:06 Dadred wrote: Shockeys claim looks more natural I think....
that's it game is solved
Took us 4 hours? Hooray hun!
If it was a 30 player game i would totally be lynching you two for you bullshit nonsense that doesnt even make any sense ever.....
Yeah but most of the real claims are a bit clunky and illogical. It felt more and more that they were telling the truth and Shockey wasn't really invested in hunting.
yes. i bank my game on if doc docs #4 and shockeyy dies and is a cop we lose, and that's on me, you can lynch me D1. There is no way shockeyy is the real cop, and if it is so you can always blame me forever 100%
On September 18 2020 07:06 Dadred wrote: Shockeys claim looks more natural I think....
that's it game is solved
Took us 4 hours? Hooray hun!
If it was a 30 player game i would totally be lynching you two for you bullshit nonsense that doesnt even make any sense ever.....
Yeah but most of the real claims are a bit clunky and illogical. It felt more and more that they were telling the truth and Shockey wasn't really invested in hunting.
What the fuck are you guys smoking???? I'm invested... I'm literally checking players outside of the person who counter claimed me. It's N0, and I have the best action to help finding mafia. Now town is going to decide I'm mafia because Dadred said I looked more natural? Where the hell is the logic in that.
On September 18 2020 04:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay so much for the confusion, just google number four + klaus + ben. I had my laughs :D
Let's play mafia. Monadel do you think anything sticks out as fishy atm?
No I don't.
I think what Glowingbear is saying is an unescessary over explanation on "the cop should claim" but I dont think it makes him mafia
Why?
Actually I agree. The cop gets n0 check then they need do claim.. 5v2 we get a red check for the cop is a good trade. I think cop shouldn't claim until d2 though.
Rayn why push for a cop claim n0?
To be fair I like the idea of having cop claiming n0 so the doctor knows who to protect. It either forces mafia to fakeclaim or doctor hunt. They will have 25% chance of hitting doctor while we guarantee we have a cop with a check day1.
The problem is when we don't have a clear claim and the doctor can't find out who the cop is because they "assume" it's someone else. This only helps mafia.
I was about to ask for more reasons why cop should claim N0, but I guess, it just needs to be done, and I really prefer town winning if that's the case here. I really want to trust Rayn and yourself GB for this claim, and really hope that I'm doing the right thing by doing so.
Hi. I'm finally a blue role (cop here [not copcake]) in one of Hapa's games. Who should I check on my N0 action? I was thinking of Monadel since he's new or Number4 since it's a hydra role.
This is the most artificial shit i have ever heard, sorry,
Did you even see the timeline? Can you explain why then N4 decided to counter claim me after I said I would check her?
On September 18 2020 07:06 Dadred wrote: Shockeys claim looks more natural I think....
that's it game is solved
Took us 4 hours? Hooray hun!
If it was a 30 player game i would totally be lynching you two for you bullshit nonsense that doesnt even make any sense ever.....
Yeah but most of the real claims are a bit clunky and illogical. It felt more and more that they were telling the truth and Shockey wasn't really invested in hunting.
What the fuck are you guys smoking???? I'm invested... I'm literally checking players outside of the person who counter claimed me. It's N0, and I have the best action to help finding mafia. Now town is going to decide I'm mafia because Dadred said I looked more natural? Where the hell is the logic in that.
It's not that you're mafia because Damdred said you're town, it's that Damdred is mafia because he said you're town.
You have been present but you are acting like you know me and rayn are town. You haven't directed a single post towards our direction like you don't know we are town.
It's called benefit of the doubt. I honestly saw you and rayn actively trying to solve the game from D1 and on top of it, I can easily check you or him without ever having to question either or. It's not hard as cop.
On September 18 2020 07:06 Dadred wrote: Shockeys claim looks more natural I think....
that's it game is solved
Took us 4 hours? Hooray hun!
If it was a 30 player game i would totally be lynching you two for you bullshit nonsense that doesnt even make any sense ever.....
Yeah but most of the real claims are a bit clunky and illogical. It felt more and more that they were telling the truth and Shockey wasn't really invested in hunting.
What the fuck are you guys smoking???? I'm invested... I'm literally checking players outside of the person who counter claimed me. It's N0, and I have the best action to help finding mafia. Now town is going to decide I'm mafia because Dadred said I looked more natural? Where the hell is the logic in that.
On September 18 2020 05:10 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On September 18 2020 05:02 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:52 Number 4 wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:30 Monadel wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay so much for the confusion, just google number four + klaus + ben. I had my laughs :D
Let's play mafia. Monadel do you think anything sticks out as fishy atm?
No I don't.
I think what Glowingbear is saying is an unescessary over explanation on "the cop should claim" but I dont think it makes him mafia
Why?
Actually I agree. The cop gets n0 check then they need do claim.. 5v2 we get a red check for the cop is a good trade. I think cop shouldn't claim until d2 though.
Rayn why push for a cop claim n0?
To be fair I like the idea of having cop claiming n0 so the doctor knows who to protect. It either forces mafia to fakeclaim or doctor hunt. They will have 25% chance of hitting doctor while we guarantee we have a cop with a check day1.
The problem is when we don't have a clear claim and the doctor can't find out who the cop is because they "assume" it's someone else. This only helps mafia.
I was about to ask for more reasons why cop should claim N0, but I guess, it just needs to be done, and I really prefer town winning if that's the case here. I really want to trust Rayn and yourself GB for this claim, and really hope that I'm doing the right thing by doing so.
Hi. I'm finally a blue role (cop here [not copcake]) in one of Hapa's games. Who should I check on my N0 action? I was thinking of Monadel since he's new or Number4 since it's a hydra role.
This is the most artificial shit i have ever heard, sorry,
Did you even see the timeline? Can you explain why then N4 decided to counter claim me after I said I would check her?
Shockey I don't think you will convince rayn.
May I ask you to post your stream of thoughts when looking at the thread? When did you start reading, what did you think of posts at that time, etc.
On September 18 2020 07:06 Dadred wrote: Shockeys claim looks more natural I think....
that's it game is solved
Took us 4 hours? Hooray hun!
If it was a 30 player game i would totally be lynching you two for you bullshit nonsense that doesnt even make any sense ever.....
Yeah but most of the real claims are a bit clunky and illogical. It felt more and more that they were telling the truth and Shockey wasn't really invested in hunting.
What the fuck are you guys smoking???? I'm invested... I'm literally checking players outside of the person who counter claimed me. It's N0, and I have the best action to help finding mafia. Now town is going to decide I'm mafia because Dadred said I looked more natural? Where the hell is the logic in that.
It's not that you're mafia because Damdred said you're town, it's that Damdred is mafia because he said you're town.
You have been present but you are acting like you know me and rayn are town. You haven't directed a single post towards our direction like you don't know we are town.
It's called benefit of the doubt. I honestly saw you and rayn actively trying to solve the game from D1 and on top of it, I can easily check you or him without ever having to question either or. It's not hard as cop.
On September 18 2020 07:06 Dadred wrote: Shockeys claim looks more natural I think....
that's it game is solved
Took us 4 hours? Hooray hun!
If it was a 30 player game i would totally be lynching you two for you bullshit nonsense that doesnt even make any sense ever.....
Yeah but most of the real claims are a bit clunky and illogical. It felt more and more that they were telling the truth and Shockey wasn't really invested in hunting.
yes. i bank my game on if doc docs #4 and shockeyy dies and is a cop we lose, and that's on me, you can lynch me D1. There is no way shockeyy is the real cop, and if it is so you can always blame me forever 100%
Nah, we are on the exact same page. I also felt Shockey's claim was artificial and the girls' posts were sounding townie when we kept pushing them.
I'm not 100% on Damdred but boy saying that Shockey's post was more natural is far from the truth
And in all honesty, why would I think it's you or rayn when I literally had the hydra counter claim me? Like it's kinda ridiculous to think that I would focus rayn or yourself this early in the game when I literally have mafia counter claiming me.
On September 18 2020 07:06 Dadred wrote: Shockeys claim looks more natural I think....
that's it game is solved
Took us 4 hours? Hooray hun!
If it was a 30 player game i would totally be lynching you two for you bullshit nonsense that doesnt even make any sense ever.....
Yeah but most of the real claims are a bit clunky and illogical. It felt more and more that they were telling the truth and Shockey wasn't really invested in hunting.
What the fuck are you guys smoking???? I'm invested... I'm literally checking players outside of the person who counter claimed me. It's N0, and I have the best action to help finding mafia. Now town is going to decide I'm mafia because Dadred said I looked more natural? Where the hell is the logic in that.
It's not that you're mafia because Damdred said you're town, it's that Damdred is mafia because he said you're town.
You have been present but you are acting like you know me and rayn are town. You haven't directed a single post towards our direction like you don't know we are town.
It's called benefit of the doubt. I honestly saw you and rayn actively trying to solve the game from D1 and on top of it, I can easily check you or him without ever having to question either or. It's not hard as cop.
Didn't you find anything scummy at all in our posts?
On September 18 2020 07:06 Dadred wrote: Shockeys claim looks more natural I think....
that's it game is solved
Took us 4 hours? Hooray hun!
If it was a 30 player game i would totally be lynching you two for you bullshit nonsense that doesnt even make any sense ever.....
Yeah but most of the real claims are a bit clunky and illogical. It felt more and more that they were telling the truth and Shockey wasn't really invested in hunting.
yes. i bank my game on if doc docs #4 and shockeyy dies and is a cop we lose, and that's on me, you can lynch me D1. There is no way shockeyy is the real cop, and if it is so you can always blame me forever 100%
Nah, we are on the exact same page. I also felt Shockey's claim was artificial and the girls' posts were sounding townie when we kept pushing them.
I'm not 100% on Damdred but boy saying that Shockey's post was more natural is far from the truth
And in all honesty, why would I think it's you or rayn when I literally had the hydra counter claim me? Like it's kinda ridiculous to think that I would focus rayn or yourself this early in the game when I literally have mafia counter claiming me.
Well, there are two mafias, so if you have one, you still have to find the other, right? I mean, you were here before she counterclaimed, anyone could have been mafia.
On September 18 2020 07:06 Dadred wrote: Shockeys claim looks more natural I think....
that's it game is solved
Took us 4 hours? Hooray hun!
If it was a 30 player game i would totally be lynching you two for you bullshit nonsense that doesnt even make any sense ever.....
Yeah but most of the real claims are a bit clunky and illogical. It felt more and more that they were telling the truth and Shockey wasn't really invested in hunting.
What the fuck are you guys smoking???? I'm invested... I'm literally checking players outside of the person who counter claimed me. It's N0, and I have the best action to help finding mafia. Now town is going to decide I'm mafia because Dadred said I looked more natural? Where the hell is the logic in that.
On September 18 2020 05:10 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On September 18 2020 05:02 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:52 Number 4 wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:30 Monadel wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay so much for the confusion, just google number four + klaus + ben. I had my laughs :D
Let's play mafia. Monadel do you think anything sticks out as fishy atm?
No I don't.
I think what Glowingbear is saying is an unescessary over explanation on "the cop should claim" but I dont think it makes him mafia
Why?
Actually I agree. The cop gets n0 check then they need do claim.. 5v2 we get a red check for the cop is a good trade. I think cop shouldn't claim until d2 though.
Rayn why push for a cop claim n0?
To be fair I like the idea of having cop claiming n0 so the doctor knows who to protect. It either forces mafia to fakeclaim or doctor hunt. They will have 25% chance of hitting doctor while we guarantee we have a cop with a check day1.
The problem is when we don't have a clear claim and the doctor can't find out who the cop is because they "assume" it's someone else. This only helps mafia.
I was about to ask for more reasons why cop should claim N0, but I guess, it just needs to be done, and I really prefer town winning if that's the case here. I really want to trust Rayn and yourself GB for this claim, and really hope that I'm doing the right thing by doing so.
Hi. I'm finally a blue role (cop here [not copcake]) in one of Hapa's games. Who should I check on my N0 action? I was thinking of Monadel since he's new or Number4 since it's a hydra role.
This is the most artificial shit i have ever heard, sorry,
Did you even see the timeline? Can you explain why then N4 decided to counter claim me after I said I would check her?
Shockey I don't think you will convince rayn.
May I ask you to post your stream of thoughts when looking at the thread? When did you start reading, what did you think of posts at that time, etc.
I started reading 10 minutes before posting my claim. I literally followed the advice of you and Rayn because I also saw it's in the best interest of town. Number 4 didn't even want to "claim" until they saw I was gunning for them at night check.
On September 18 2020 07:06 Dadred wrote: Shockeys claim looks more natural I think....
that's it game is solved
Took us 4 hours? Hooray hun!
If it was a 30 player game i would totally be lynching you two for you bullshit nonsense that doesnt even make any sense ever.....
Yeah but most of the real claims are a bit clunky and illogical. It felt more and more that they were telling the truth and Shockey wasn't really invested in hunting.
What the fuck are you guys smoking???? I'm invested... I'm literally checking players outside of the person who counter claimed me. It's N0, and I have the best action to help finding mafia. Now town is going to decide I'm mafia because Dadred said I looked more natural? Where the hell is the logic in that.
On September 18 2020 05:10 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On September 18 2020 05:02 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:52 Number 4 wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:30 Monadel wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay so much for the confusion, just google number four + klaus + ben. I had my laughs :D
Let's play mafia. Monadel do you think anything sticks out as fishy atm?
No I don't.
I think what Glowingbear is saying is an unescessary over explanation on "the cop should claim" but I dont think it makes him mafia
Why?
Actually I agree. The cop gets n0 check then they need do claim.. 5v2 we get a red check for the cop is a good trade. I think cop shouldn't claim until d2 though.
Rayn why push for a cop claim n0?
To be fair I like the idea of having cop claiming n0 so the doctor knows who to protect. It either forces mafia to fakeclaim or doctor hunt. They will have 25% chance of hitting doctor while we guarantee we have a cop with a check day1.
The problem is when we don't have a clear claim and the doctor can't find out who the cop is because they "assume" it's someone else. This only helps mafia.
I was about to ask for more reasons why cop should claim N0, but I guess, it just needs to be done, and I really prefer town winning if that's the case here. I really want to trust Rayn and yourself GB for this claim, and really hope that I'm doing the right thing by doing so.
Hi. I'm finally a blue role (cop here [not copcake]) in one of Hapa's games. Who should I check on my N0 action? I was thinking of Monadel since he's new or Number4 since it's a hydra role.
This is the most artificial shit i have ever heard, sorry,
Did you even see the timeline? Can you explain why then N4 decided to counter claim me after I said I would check her?
Shockey I don't think you will convince rayn.
May I ask you to post your stream of thoughts when looking at the thread? When did you start reading, what did you think of posts at that time, etc.
I started reading 10 minutes before posting my claim. I literally followed the advice of you and Rayn because I also saw it's in the best interest of town. Number 4 didn't even want to "claim" until they saw I was gunning for them at night check.
Ok, got it and I understand why would you, as cop, take the advice. But I want to understand what did you think of people's alignment at that time. I mean, one thing is to take and advice. One thing is to be convince that the active people are townie.
On September 18 2020 07:06 Dadred wrote: Shockeys claim looks more natural I think....
that's it game is solved
Took us 4 hours? Hooray hun!
If it was a 30 player game i would totally be lynching you two for you bullshit nonsense that doesnt even make any sense ever.....
Yeah but most of the real claims are a bit clunky and illogical. It felt more and more that they were telling the truth and Shockey wasn't really invested in hunting.
yes. i bank my game on if doc docs #4 and shockeyy dies and is a cop we lose, and that's on me, you can lynch me D1. There is no way shockeyy is the real cop, and if it is so you can always blame me forever 100%
Nah, we are on the exact same page. I also felt Shockey's claim was artificial and the girls' posts were sounding townie when we kept pushing them.
I'm not 100% on Damdred but boy saying that Shockey's post was more natural is far from the truth
And in all honesty, why would I think it's you or rayn when I literally had the hydra counter claim me? Like it's kinda ridiculous to think that I would focus rayn or yourself this early in the game when I literally have mafia counter claiming me.
Well, there are two mafias, so if you have one, you still have to find the other, right? I mean, you were here before she counterclaimed, anyone could have been mafia.
Yea?... And I literally posted I have one of the strongest abilities this game to check whoever tonight. I already posted that I don't even need to check Number 4 because I already know they're mafia. So I'm obviously going to check else where to move the game faster for a town win.
On September 18 2020 07:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: [quote] that's it game is solved
Took us 4 hours? Hooray hun!
If it was a 30 player game i would totally be lynching you two for you bullshit nonsense that doesnt even make any sense ever.....
Yeah but most of the real claims are a bit clunky and illogical. It felt more and more that they were telling the truth and Shockey wasn't really invested in hunting.
What the fuck are you guys smoking???? I'm invested... I'm literally checking players outside of the person who counter claimed me. It's N0, and I have the best action to help finding mafia. Now town is going to decide I'm mafia because Dadred said I looked more natural? Where the hell is the logic in that.
On September 18 2020 05:10 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On September 18 2020 05:02 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:52 Number 4 wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:30 Monadel wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay so much for the confusion, just google number four + klaus + ben. I had my laughs :D
Let's play mafia. Monadel do you think anything sticks out as fishy atm?
No I don't.
I think what Glowingbear is saying is an unescessary over explanation on "the cop should claim" but I dont think it makes him mafia
Why?
Actually I agree. The cop gets n0 check then they need do claim.. 5v2 we get a red check for the cop is a good trade. I think cop shouldn't claim until d2 though.
Rayn why push for a cop claim n0?
To be fair I like the idea of having cop claiming n0 so the doctor knows who to protect. It either forces mafia to fakeclaim or doctor hunt. They will have 25% chance of hitting doctor while we guarantee we have a cop with a check day1.
The problem is when we don't have a clear claim and the doctor can't find out who the cop is because they "assume" it's someone else. This only helps mafia.
I was about to ask for more reasons why cop should claim N0, but I guess, it just needs to be done, and I really prefer town winning if that's the case here. I really want to trust Rayn and yourself GB for this claim, and really hope that I'm doing the right thing by doing so.
Hi. I'm finally a blue role (cop here [not copcake]) in one of Hapa's games. Who should I check on my N0 action? I was thinking of Monadel since he's new or Number4 since it's a hydra role.
This is the most artificial shit i have ever heard, sorry,
Did you even see the timeline? Can you explain why then N4 decided to counter claim me after I said I would check her?
Shockey I don't think you will convince rayn.
May I ask you to post your stream of thoughts when looking at the thread? When did you start reading, what did you think of posts at that time, etc.
I started reading 10 minutes before posting my claim. I literally followed the advice of you and Rayn because I also saw it's in the best interest of town. Number 4 didn't even want to "claim" until they saw I was gunning for them at night check.
Ok, got it and I understand why you, as cop, would take the advice. But I want to understand what did you think of people's alignment at that time. I mean, one thing is to take an advice. Other one is to be convinced that the active people are townie.
On September 18 2020 07:06 Dadred wrote: Shockeys claim looks more natural I think....
that's it game is solved
Took us 4 hours? Hooray hun!
If it was a 30 player game i would totally be lynching you two for you bullshit nonsense that doesnt even make any sense ever.....
Yeah but most of the real claims are a bit clunky and illogical. It felt more and more that they were telling the truth and Shockey wasn't really invested in hunting.
yes. i bank my game on if doc docs #4 and shockeyy dies and is a cop we lose, and that's on me, you can lynch me D1. There is no way shockeyy is the real cop, and if it is so you can always blame me forever 100%
Nah, we are on the exact same page. I also felt Shockey's claim was artificial and the girls' posts were sounding townie when we kept pushing them.
I'm not 100% on Damdred but boy saying that Shockey's post was more natural is far from the truth
And in all honesty, why would I think it's you or rayn when I literally had the hydra counter claim me? Like it's kinda ridiculous to think that I would focus rayn or yourself this early in the game when I literally have mafia counter claiming me.
Well, there are two mafias, so if you have one, you still have to find the other, right? I mean, you were here before she counterclaimed, anyone could have been mafia.
Yea?... And I literally posted I have one of the strongest abilities this game to check whoever tonight. I already posted that I don't even need to check Number 4 because I already know they're mafia. So I'm obviously going to check else where to move the game faster for a town win.
Shockey, you're literally saying all you're going to do is check people and nothing else. That's not really playing the game, is it?
On September 18 2020 07:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: [quote] that's it game is solved
Took us 4 hours? Hooray hun!
If it was a 30 player game i would totally be lynching you two for you bullshit nonsense that doesnt even make any sense ever.....
Yeah but most of the real claims are a bit clunky and illogical. It felt more and more that they were telling the truth and Shockey wasn't really invested in hunting.
What the fuck are you guys smoking???? I'm invested... I'm literally checking players outside of the person who counter claimed me. It's N0, and I have the best action to help finding mafia. Now town is going to decide I'm mafia because Dadred said I looked more natural? Where the hell is the logic in that.
On September 18 2020 05:10 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On September 18 2020 05:02 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:52 Number 4 wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:30 Monadel wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay so much for the confusion, just google number four + klaus + ben. I had my laughs :D
Let's play mafia. Monadel do you think anything sticks out as fishy atm?
No I don't.
I think what Glowingbear is saying is an unescessary over explanation on "the cop should claim" but I dont think it makes him mafia
Why?
Actually I agree. The cop gets n0 check then they need do claim.. 5v2 we get a red check for the cop is a good trade. I think cop shouldn't claim until d2 though.
Rayn why push for a cop claim n0?
To be fair I like the idea of having cop claiming n0 so the doctor knows who to protect. It either forces mafia to fakeclaim or doctor hunt. They will have 25% chance of hitting doctor while we guarantee we have a cop with a check day1.
The problem is when we don't have a clear claim and the doctor can't find out who the cop is because they "assume" it's someone else. This only helps mafia.
I was about to ask for more reasons why cop should claim N0, but I guess, it just needs to be done, and I really prefer town winning if that's the case here. I really want to trust Rayn and yourself GB for this claim, and really hope that I'm doing the right thing by doing so.
Hi. I'm finally a blue role (cop here [not copcake]) in one of Hapa's games. Who should I check on my N0 action? I was thinking of Monadel since he's new or Number4 since it's a hydra role.
This is the most artificial shit i have ever heard, sorry,
Did you even see the timeline? Can you explain why then N4 decided to counter claim me after I said I would check her?
Shockey I don't think you will convince rayn.
May I ask you to post your stream of thoughts when looking at the thread? When did you start reading, what did you think of posts at that time, etc.
I started reading 10 minutes before posting my claim. I literally followed the advice of you and Rayn because I also saw it's in the best interest of town. Number 4 didn't even want to "claim" until they saw I was gunning for them at night check.
Ok, got it and I understand why would you, as cop, take the advice. But I want to understand what did you think of people's alignment at that time. I mean, one thing is to take and advice. One thing is to be convince that the active people are townie.
I never said I was convinced you're both town, I just trust you both more than other players due to knowing you're both strong town players either way. I'm convinced Number 4 is mafia. Now I just have to go through my check lists. I posted I wanted to check the least active players because based on the past games, every mafia player has been AFK as fuck.
On September 18 2020 07:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: [quote] that's it game is solved
Took us 4 hours? Hooray hun!
If it was a 30 player game i would totally be lynching you two for you bullshit nonsense that doesnt even make any sense ever.....
Yeah but most of the real claims are a bit clunky and illogical. It felt more and more that they were telling the truth and Shockey wasn't really invested in hunting.
yes. i bank my game on if doc docs #4 and shockeyy dies and is a cop we lose, and that's on me, you can lynch me D1. There is no way shockeyy is the real cop, and if it is so you can always blame me forever 100%
Nah, we are on the exact same page. I also felt Shockey's claim was artificial and the girls' posts were sounding townie when we kept pushing them.
I'm not 100% on Damdred but boy saying that Shockey's post was more natural is far from the truth
And in all honesty, why would I think it's you or rayn when I literally had the hydra counter claim me? Like it's kinda ridiculous to think that I would focus rayn or yourself this early in the game when I literally have mafia counter claiming me.
Well, there are two mafias, so if you have one, you still have to find the other, right? I mean, you were here before she counterclaimed, anyone could have been mafia.
Yea?... And I literally posted I have one of the strongest abilities this game to check whoever tonight. I already posted that I don't even need to check Number 4 because I already know they're mafia. So I'm obviously going to check else where to move the game faster for a town win.
Shockey, you're literally saying all you're going to do is check people and nothing else. That's not really playing the game, is it?
I'm doing something now aren't I? I'm having conversations with those who are around, picking and poking at those players, am I not? Isn't that doing something?
On September 18 2020 07:10 Number 4 wrote: [quote]
Took us 4 hours? Hooray hun!
If it was a 30 player game i would totally be lynching you two for you bullshit nonsense that doesnt even make any sense ever.....
Yeah but most of the real claims are a bit clunky and illogical. It felt more and more that they were telling the truth and Shockey wasn't really invested in hunting.
What the fuck are you guys smoking???? I'm invested... I'm literally checking players outside of the person who counter claimed me. It's N0, and I have the best action to help finding mafia. Now town is going to decide I'm mafia because Dadred said I looked more natural? Where the hell is the logic in that.
On September 18 2020 05:10 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On September 18 2020 05:02 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:52 Number 4 wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:30 Monadel wrote: [quote]
No I don't.
I think what Glowingbear is saying is an unescessary over explanation on "the cop should claim" but I dont think it makes him mafia
Why?
Actually I agree. The cop gets n0 check then they need do claim.. 5v2 we get a red check for the cop is a good trade. I think cop shouldn't claim until d2 though.
Rayn why push for a cop claim n0?
To be fair I like the idea of having cop claiming n0 so the doctor knows who to protect. It either forces mafia to fakeclaim or doctor hunt. They will have 25% chance of hitting doctor while we guarantee we have a cop with a check day1.
The problem is when we don't have a clear claim and the doctor can't find out who the cop is because they "assume" it's someone else. This only helps mafia.
I was about to ask for more reasons why cop should claim N0, but I guess, it just needs to be done, and I really prefer town winning if that's the case here. I really want to trust Rayn and yourself GB for this claim, and really hope that I'm doing the right thing by doing so.
Hi. I'm finally a blue role (cop here [not copcake]) in one of Hapa's games. Who should I check on my N0 action? I was thinking of Monadel since he's new or Number4 since it's a hydra role.
This is the most artificial shit i have ever heard, sorry,
Did you even see the timeline? Can you explain why then N4 decided to counter claim me after I said I would check her?
Shockey I don't think you will convince rayn.
May I ask you to post your stream of thoughts when looking at the thread? When did you start reading, what did you think of posts at that time, etc.
I started reading 10 minutes before posting my claim. I literally followed the advice of you and Rayn because I also saw it's in the best interest of town. Number 4 didn't even want to "claim" until they saw I was gunning for them at night check.
Ok, got it and I understand why would you, as cop, take the advice. But I want to understand what did you think of people's alignment at that time. I mean, one thing is to take and advice. One thing is to be convince that the active people are townie.
I never said I was convinced you're both town, I just trust you both more than other players due to knowing you're both strong town players either way. I'm convinced Number 4 is mafia. Now I just have to go through my check lists. I posted I wanted to check the least active players because based on the past games, every mafia player has been AFK as fuck.
Meh, sorry Shockey, I don't believe you. I'm trying to see you coming from a townie perspective, but I can't. It is too simplistic to say "I'll just trust you more and check inactives" and go on with that... it misses the excitement of discussing and trying to sort things out.
I mean, considering you're mafia fake claiming: you can just say that, relax, go on the other day and say "I have a green check on X" and go back to not sorting things out.
On September 18 2020 07:10 Number 4 wrote: [quote]
Took us 4 hours? Hooray hun!
If it was a 30 player game i would totally be lynching you two for you bullshit nonsense that doesnt even make any sense ever.....
Yeah but most of the real claims are a bit clunky and illogical. It felt more and more that they were telling the truth and Shockey wasn't really invested in hunting.
yes. i bank my game on if doc docs #4 and shockeyy dies and is a cop we lose, and that's on me, you can lynch me D1. There is no way shockeyy is the real cop, and if it is so you can always blame me forever 100%
Nah, we are on the exact same page. I also felt Shockey's claim was artificial and the girls' posts were sounding townie when we kept pushing them.
I'm not 100% on Damdred but boy saying that Shockey's post was more natural is far from the truth
And in all honesty, why would I think it's you or rayn when I literally had the hydra counter claim me? Like it's kinda ridiculous to think that I would focus rayn or yourself this early in the game when I literally have mafia counter claiming me.
Well, there are two mafias, so if you have one, you still have to find the other, right? I mean, you were here before she counterclaimed, anyone could have been mafia.
Yea?... And I literally posted I have one of the strongest abilities this game to check whoever tonight. I already posted that I don't even need to check Number 4 because I already know they're mafia. So I'm obviously going to check else where to move the game faster for a town win.
Shockey, you're literally saying all you're going to do is check people and nothing else. That's not really playing the game, is it?
I'm doing something now aren't I? I'm having conversations with those who are around, picking and poking at those players, am I not? Isn't that doing something?
Well, now. But you're not giving reads. You don't have an opinion on people, like "I believe X is town because of this, this and this" or "Y might be mafia with cake because this this and this".
Yea I could of easily done that, but I'm not mafia, and I'm here actively speaking my mind. I did the same thing last game, which I had solved by myself, and got voted out for it. Seems like the same shit is about to happen, and we're going to lose another town game because of it.
On September 18 2020 07:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: [quote] If it was a 30 player game i would totally be lynching you two for you bullshit nonsense that doesnt even make any sense ever.....
Yeah but most of the real claims are a bit clunky and illogical. It felt more and more that they were telling the truth and Shockey wasn't really invested in hunting.
yes. i bank my game on if doc docs #4 and shockeyy dies and is a cop we lose, and that's on me, you can lynch me D1. There is no way shockeyy is the real cop, and if it is so you can always blame me forever 100%
Nah, we are on the exact same page. I also felt Shockey's claim was artificial and the girls' posts were sounding townie when we kept pushing them.
I'm not 100% on Damdred but boy saying that Shockey's post was more natural is far from the truth
And in all honesty, why would I think it's you or rayn when I literally had the hydra counter claim me? Like it's kinda ridiculous to think that I would focus rayn or yourself this early in the game when I literally have mafia counter claiming me.
Well, there are two mafias, so if you have one, you still have to find the other, right? I mean, you were here before she counterclaimed, anyone could have been mafia.
Yea?... And I literally posted I have one of the strongest abilities this game to check whoever tonight. I already posted that I don't even need to check Number 4 because I already know they're mafia. So I'm obviously going to check else where to move the game faster for a town win.
Shockey, you're literally saying all you're going to do is check people and nothing else. That's not really playing the game, is it?
I'm doing something now aren't I? I'm having conversations with those who are around, picking and poking at those players, am I not? Isn't that doing something?
Well, now. But you're not giving reads. You don't have an opinion on people, like "I believe X is town because of this, this and this" or "Y might be mafia with cake because this this and this".
I gave my opinion, Number 4 is mafia. Do I know who the other one is? No, but I'll have a better idea on D1 after my first check. And you should know that my first day/night posting I never have any kind of reads especially as town.
On September 18 2020 07:44 ShoCkeyy wrote: Yea I could of easily done that, but I'm not mafia, and I'm here actively speaking my mind. I did the same thing last game, which I had solved by myself, and got voted out for it. Seems like the same shit is about to happen, and we're going to lose another town game because of it.
Quite ridiculous.
I'm sorry if you're the actual cop but experience points out to you :/ Don't be angry
On September 18 2020 07:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: [quote] If it was a 30 player game i would totally be lynching you two for you bullshit nonsense that doesnt even make any sense ever.....
Yeah but most of the real claims are a bit clunky and illogical. It felt more and more that they were telling the truth and Shockey wasn't really invested in hunting.
What the fuck are you guys smoking???? I'm invested... I'm literally checking players outside of the person who counter claimed me. It's N0, and I have the best action to help finding mafia. Now town is going to decide I'm mafia because Dadred said I looked more natural? Where the hell is the logic in that.
On September 18 2020 05:10 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On September 18 2020 05:02 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:52 Number 4 wrote: [quote] Why?
Actually I agree. The cop gets n0 check then they need do claim.. 5v2 we get a red check for the cop is a good trade. I think cop shouldn't claim until d2 though.
Rayn why push for a cop claim n0?
To be fair I like the idea of having cop claiming n0 so the doctor knows who to protect. It either forces mafia to fakeclaim or doctor hunt. They will have 25% chance of hitting doctor while we guarantee we have a cop with a check day1.
The problem is when we don't have a clear claim and the doctor can't find out who the cop is because they "assume" it's someone else. This only helps mafia.
I was about to ask for more reasons why cop should claim N0, but I guess, it just needs to be done, and I really prefer town winning if that's the case here. I really want to trust Rayn and yourself GB for this claim, and really hope that I'm doing the right thing by doing so.
Hi. I'm finally a blue role (cop here [not copcake]) in one of Hapa's games. Who should I check on my N0 action? I was thinking of Monadel since he's new or Number4 since it's a hydra role.
This is the most artificial shit i have ever heard, sorry,
Did you even see the timeline? Can you explain why then N4 decided to counter claim me after I said I would check her?
Shockey I don't think you will convince rayn.
May I ask you to post your stream of thoughts when looking at the thread? When did you start reading, what did you think of posts at that time, etc.
I started reading 10 minutes before posting my claim. I literally followed the advice of you and Rayn because I also saw it's in the best interest of town. Number 4 didn't even want to "claim" until they saw I was gunning for them at night check.
Ok, got it and I understand why would you, as cop, take the advice. But I want to understand what did you think of people's alignment at that time. I mean, one thing is to take and advice. One thing is to be convince that the active people are townie.
I never said I was convinced you're both town, I just trust you both more than other players due to knowing you're both strong town players either way. I'm convinced Number 4 is mafia. Now I just have to go through my check lists. I posted I wanted to check the least active players because based on the past games, every mafia player has been AFK as fuck.
Meh, sorry Shockey, I don't believe you. I'm trying to see you coming from a townie perspective, but I can't. It is too simplistic to say "I'll just trust you more and check inactives" and go on with that... it misses the excitement of discussing and trying to sort things out.
I mean, considering you're mafia fake claiming: you can just say that, relax, go on the other day and say "I have a green check on X" and go back to not sorting things out.
This is also the same thing Number 4 is doing. Asked if anybody was around to talk, then both of them afk's. Lol... how more obvious do you need it to be.
On September 18 2020 07:12 GlowingBear wrote: [quote]
Yeah but most of the real claims are a bit clunky and illogical. It felt more and more that they were telling the truth and Shockey wasn't really invested in hunting.
yes. i bank my game on if doc docs #4 and shockeyy dies and is a cop we lose, and that's on me, you can lynch me D1. There is no way shockeyy is the real cop, and if it is so you can always blame me forever 100%
Nah, we are on the exact same page. I also felt Shockey's claim was artificial and the girls' posts were sounding townie when we kept pushing them.
I'm not 100% on Damdred but boy saying that Shockey's post was more natural is far from the truth
And in all honesty, why would I think it's you or rayn when I literally had the hydra counter claim me? Like it's kinda ridiculous to think that I would focus rayn or yourself this early in the game when I literally have mafia counter claiming me.
Well, there are two mafias, so if you have one, you still have to find the other, right? I mean, you were here before she counterclaimed, anyone could have been mafia.
Yea?... And I literally posted I have one of the strongest abilities this game to check whoever tonight. I already posted that I don't even need to check Number 4 because I already know they're mafia. So I'm obviously going to check else where to move the game faster for a town win.
Shockey, you're literally saying all you're going to do is check people and nothing else. That's not really playing the game, is it?
I'm doing something now aren't I? I'm having conversations with those who are around, picking and poking at those players, am I not? Isn't that doing something?
Well, now. But you're not giving reads. You don't have an opinion on people, like "I believe X is town because of this, this and this" or "Y might be mafia with cake because this this and this".
I gave my opinion, Number 4 is mafia. Do I know who the other one is? No, but I'll have a better idea on D1 after my first check. And you should know that my first day/night posting I never have any kind of reads especially as town.
I don't usually use meta. I just go with the flow. So I actually don't know this
I just don't think you have to wait your first check to start scumhunting. You also should have to consider that the doctor might not protect you and you can die tonight lol
On September 18 2020 07:12 GlowingBear wrote: [quote]
Yeah but most of the real claims are a bit clunky and illogical. It felt more and more that they were telling the truth and Shockey wasn't really invested in hunting.
What the fuck are you guys smoking???? I'm invested... I'm literally checking players outside of the person who counter claimed me. It's N0, and I have the best action to help finding mafia. Now town is going to decide I'm mafia because Dadred said I looked more natural? Where the hell is the logic in that.
On September 18 2020 05:10 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On September 18 2020 05:02 GlowingBear wrote: [quote]
To be fair I like the idea of having cop claiming n0 so the doctor knows who to protect. It either forces mafia to fakeclaim or doctor hunt. They will have 25% chance of hitting doctor while we guarantee we have a cop with a check day1.
The problem is when we don't have a clear claim and the doctor can't find out who the cop is because they "assume" it's someone else. This only helps mafia.
I was about to ask for more reasons why cop should claim N0, but I guess, it just needs to be done, and I really prefer town winning if that's the case here. I really want to trust Rayn and yourself GB for this claim, and really hope that I'm doing the right thing by doing so.
Hi. I'm finally a blue role (cop here [not copcake]) in one of Hapa's games. Who should I check on my N0 action? I was thinking of Monadel since he's new or Number4 since it's a hydra role.
This is the most artificial shit i have ever heard, sorry,
Did you even see the timeline? Can you explain why then N4 decided to counter claim me after I said I would check her?
Shockey I don't think you will convince rayn.
May I ask you to post your stream of thoughts when looking at the thread? When did you start reading, what did you think of posts at that time, etc.
I started reading 10 minutes before posting my claim. I literally followed the advice of you and Rayn because I also saw it's in the best interest of town. Number 4 didn't even want to "claim" until they saw I was gunning for them at night check.
Ok, got it and I understand why would you, as cop, take the advice. But I want to understand what did you think of people's alignment at that time. I mean, one thing is to take and advice. One thing is to be convince that the active people are townie.
I never said I was convinced you're both town, I just trust you both more than other players due to knowing you're both strong town players either way. I'm convinced Number 4 is mafia. Now I just have to go through my check lists. I posted I wanted to check the least active players because based on the past games, every mafia player has been AFK as fuck.
Meh, sorry Shockey, I don't believe you. I'm trying to see you coming from a townie perspective, but I can't. It is too simplistic to say "I'll just trust you more and check inactives" and go on with that... it misses the excitement of discussing and trying to sort things out.
I mean, considering you're mafia fake claiming: you can just say that, relax, go on the other day and say "I have a green check on X" and go back to not sorting things out.
This is also the same thing Number 4 is doing. Asked if anybody was around to talk, then both of them afk's. Lol... how more obvious do you need it to be.
I find hard to believe N4 and rayn are mafia together due to their exchange. N4 was interested in understanding why cop should claim, she was involved.
Let me tell you something: IF cop is mafia, then Vivax cannot be mafia. Do you understand why?
On September 18 2020 07:14 ShoCkeyy wrote: [quote]
What the fuck are you guys smoking???? I'm invested... I'm literally checking players outside of the person who counter claimed me. It's N0, and I have the best action to help finding mafia. Now town is going to decide I'm mafia because Dadred said I looked more natural? Where the hell is the logic in that.
On September 18 2020 05:10 ShoCkeyy wrote: [quote]
I was about to ask for more reasons why cop should claim N0, but I guess, it just needs to be done, and I really prefer town winning if that's the case here. I really want to trust Rayn and yourself GB for this claim, and really hope that I'm doing the right thing by doing so.
Hi. I'm finally a blue role (cop here [not copcake]) in one of Hapa's games. Who should I check on my N0 action? I was thinking of Monadel since he's new or Number4 since it's a hydra role.
This is the most artificial shit i have ever heard, sorry,
Did you even see the timeline? Can you explain why then N4 decided to counter claim me after I said I would check her?
Shockey I don't think you will convince rayn.
May I ask you to post your stream of thoughts when looking at the thread? When did you start reading, what did you think of posts at that time, etc.
I started reading 10 minutes before posting my claim. I literally followed the advice of you and Rayn because I also saw it's in the best interest of town. Number 4 didn't even want to "claim" until they saw I was gunning for them at night check.
Ok, got it and I understand why would you, as cop, take the advice. But I want to understand what did you think of people's alignment at that time. I mean, one thing is to take and advice. One thing is to be convince that the active people are townie.
I never said I was convinced you're both town, I just trust you both more than other players due to knowing you're both strong town players either way. I'm convinced Number 4 is mafia. Now I just have to go through my check lists. I posted I wanted to check the least active players because based on the past games, every mafia player has been AFK as fuck.
Meh, sorry Shockey, I don't believe you. I'm trying to see you coming from a townie perspective, but I can't. It is too simplistic to say "I'll just trust you more and check inactives" and go on with that... it misses the excitement of discussing and trying to sort things out.
I mean, considering you're mafia fake claiming: you can just say that, relax, go on the other day and say "I have a green check on X" and go back to not sorting things out.
This is also the same thing Number 4 is doing. Asked if anybody was around to talk, then both of them afk's. Lol... how more obvious do you need it to be.
I find hard to believe N4 and rayn are mafia together due to their exchange. N4 was interested in understanding why cop should claim, she was involved.
Let me tell you something: IF cop is mafia, then Vivax cannot be mafia. Do you understand why?
I never claimed N4 and rayn are mafia, that was dadred, and explain why Vivax can't be like i'm 5. I think I understand why, but I want to know why from you.
I might as well just afk at this point till tomorrow. I saw I had a blue role, and decided to focus on the game rather than work when I specifically stated I was going to not be able to be active. Now I'm being targeted just cause I'm Shockeyy, even though some one literally counter claimed me after I suggested checking them.
If that's not the most obvious scum tell, then idk what is anymore.
On September 18 2020 07:44 ShoCkeyy wrote: Yea I could of easily done that, but I'm not mafia, and I'm here actively speaking my mind. I did the same thing last game, which I had solved by myself, and got voted out for it. Seems like the same shit is about to happen, and we're going to lose another town game because of it.
Quite ridiculous.
That's because you fake claimed me. I'll get put in a furnace before I let myself get mislynched.
On September 18 2020 07:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: [quote] [quote] This is the most artificial shit i have ever heard, sorry,
Did you even see the timeline? Can you explain why then N4 decided to counter claim me after I said I would check her?
Shockey I don't think you will convince rayn.
May I ask you to post your stream of thoughts when looking at the thread? When did you start reading, what did you think of posts at that time, etc.
I started reading 10 minutes before posting my claim. I literally followed the advice of you and Rayn because I also saw it's in the best interest of town. Number 4 didn't even want to "claim" until they saw I was gunning for them at night check.
Ok, got it and I understand why would you, as cop, take the advice. But I want to understand what did you think of people's alignment at that time. I mean, one thing is to take and advice. One thing is to be convince that the active people are townie.
I never said I was convinced you're both town, I just trust you both more than other players due to knowing you're both strong town players either way. I'm convinced Number 4 is mafia. Now I just have to go through my check lists. I posted I wanted to check the least active players because based on the past games, every mafia player has been AFK as fuck.
Meh, sorry Shockey, I don't believe you. I'm trying to see you coming from a townie perspective, but I can't. It is too simplistic to say "I'll just trust you more and check inactives" and go on with that... it misses the excitement of discussing and trying to sort things out.
I mean, considering you're mafia fake claiming: you can just say that, relax, go on the other day and say "I have a green check on X" and go back to not sorting things out.
This is also the same thing Number 4 is doing. Asked if anybody was around to talk, then both of them afk's. Lol... how more obvious do you need it to be.
I find hard to believe N4 and rayn are mafia together due to their exchange. N4 was interested in understanding why cop should claim, she was involved.
Let me tell you something: IF cop is mafia, then Vivax cannot be mafia. Do you understand why?
I never claimed N4 and rayn are mafia, that was dadred, and explain why Vivax can't be like i'm 5. I think I understand why, but I want to know why from you.
Nonono, I want to see it from your perspective, Shockey
When you said "Both of them afkd" i thought you were referring to rayn and N4, but now I got that you were talking about CopCake and Eversince
On September 18 2020 07:59 ShoCkeyy wrote: I might as well just afk at this point till tomorrow. I saw I had a blue role, and decided to focus on the game rather than work when I specifically stated I was going to not be able to be active. Now I'm being targeted just cause I'm Shockeyy, even though some one literally counter claimed me after I suggested checking them.
If that's not the most obvious scum tell, then idk what is anymore.
That's not the point Shockey, but don't worry, I will keep trying to see you coming from a townie perspective until the very end. We can talk about anything you wish and I'll talk to you like you're town.
On September 18 2020 07:12 GlowingBear wrote: [quote]
Yeah but most of the real claims are a bit clunky and illogical. It felt more and more that they were telling the truth and Shockey wasn't really invested in hunting.
What the fuck are you guys smoking???? I'm invested... I'm literally checking players outside of the person who counter claimed me. It's N0, and I have the best action to help finding mafia. Now town is going to decide I'm mafia because Dadred said I looked more natural? Where the hell is the logic in that.
On September 18 2020 05:10 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On September 18 2020 05:02 GlowingBear wrote: [quote]
To be fair I like the idea of having cop claiming n0 so the doctor knows who to protect. It either forces mafia to fakeclaim or doctor hunt. They will have 25% chance of hitting doctor while we guarantee we have a cop with a check day1.
The problem is when we don't have a clear claim and the doctor can't find out who the cop is because they "assume" it's someone else. This only helps mafia.
I was about to ask for more reasons why cop should claim N0, but I guess, it just needs to be done, and I really prefer town winning if that's the case here. I really want to trust Rayn and yourself GB for this claim, and really hope that I'm doing the right thing by doing so.
Hi. I'm finally a blue role (cop here [not copcake]) in one of Hapa's games. Who should I check on my N0 action? I was thinking of Monadel since he's new or Number4 since it's a hydra role.
This is the most artificial shit i have ever heard, sorry,
Did you even see the timeline? Can you explain why then N4 decided to counter claim me after I said I would check her?
Shockey I don't think you will convince rayn.
May I ask you to post your stream of thoughts when looking at the thread? When did you start reading, what did you think of posts at that time, etc.
I started reading 10 minutes before posting my claim. I literally followed the advice of you and Rayn because I also saw it's in the best interest of town. Number 4 didn't even want to "claim" until they saw I was gunning for them at night check.
Ok, got it and I understand why would you, as cop, take the advice. But I want to understand what did you think of people's alignment at that time. I mean, one thing is to take and advice. One thing is to be convince that the active people are townie.
I never said I was convinced you're both town, I just trust you both more than other players due to knowing you're both strong town players either way. I'm convinced Number 4 is mafia. Now I just have to go through my check lists. I posted I wanted to check the least active players because based on the past games, every mafia player has been AFK as fuck.
Meh, sorry Shockey, I don't believe you. I'm trying to see you coming from a townie perspective, but I can't. It is too simplistic to say "I'll just trust you more and check inactives" and go on with that... it misses the excitement of discussing and trying to sort things out.
I mean, considering you're mafia fake claiming: you can just say that, relax, go on the other day and say "I have a green check on X" and go back to not sorting things out.
This is also the same thing Number 4 is doing. Asked if anybody was around to talk, then both of them afk's. Lol... how more obvious do you need it to be.
On September 18 2020 07:59 ShoCkeyy wrote: I might as well just afk at this point till tomorrow. I saw I had a blue role, and decided to focus on the game rather than work when I specifically stated I was going to not be able to be active. Now I'm being targeted just cause I'm Shockeyy, even though some one literally counter claimed me after I suggested checking them.
If that's not the most obvious scum tell, then idk what is anymore.
Lets see shockeyy, why does it matter if N4 says they are gonna check you? Like if they are mafia how do they magically know to attack you before you claim? What does that matter?
On September 18 2020 08:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: Lets see shockeyy, why does it matter if N4 says they are gonna check you? Like if they are mafia how do they magically know to attack you before you claim? What does that matter?
Why does a cop ever think a mafia claims they checked the cop? Like why ever would you think so? Can you explain?
On September 18 2020 08:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: Lets see shockeyy, why does it matter if N4 says they are gonna check you? Like if they are mafia how do they magically know to attack you before you claim? What does that matter?
I never said it mattered, I said I know they're going to "check" me either way and then claim I'm mafia. They didn't magically attack me before the claim, they attacked me after I claimed, and after I specifically said I was going to check N4.
On September 18 2020 08:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: Lets see shockeyy, why does it matter if N4 says they are gonna check you? Like if they are mafia how do they magically know to attack you before you claim? What does that matter?
I never said it mattered, I said I know they're going to "check" me either way and then claim I'm mafia. They didn't magically attack me before the claim, they attacked me after I claimed, and after I specifically said I was going to check N4.
Try again sweetheart. Thats not who we we check. Not sure it matters here.
On September 18 2020 08:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: Lets see shockeyy, why does it matter if N4 says they are gonna check you? Like if they are mafia how do they magically know to attack you before you claim? What does that matter?
I never said it mattered, I said I know they're going to "check" me either way and then claim I'm mafia. They didn't magically attack me before the claim, they attacked me after I claimed, and after I specifically said I was going to check N4.
If you are the real cop instead of N4 and they are an imposter, how does any of this check out:
"I know they're going to "check" me either way and then claim I'm mafia." Why would a mafia counter claim check the counter claim, ever?
"they attacked me after I claimed" and what are they gonna do if they are not a real cop (or pretending to be)? Be like "weeee i dont care tomorrow i am gonna say someone did bad"?
You were gonna specifically check N4. Why the fuck would you ever do that?
I do like shockeys more but it has a bit to do with it being first and the hydras post confusing me because its coming from two different people. Further to this also because I dont think the reaction to shockeys claim was what I'd think it would be if someone claimed my role.
I know directing power roles is bad but I think the doctor doesn't try to save either of the cop claims.
I also think the cop claims saying who they are going to check is not optimal (this happend in number 4s original claim)
On September 18 2020 14:49 Monadel wrote: I dont really like either of the cop claims.
I do like shockeys more but it has a bit to do with it being first and the hydras post confusing me because its coming from two different people. Further to this also because I dont think the reaction to shockeys claim was what I'd think it would be if someone claimed my role.
I know directing power roles is bad but I think the doctor doesn't try to save either of the cop claims.
I also think the cop claims saying who they are going to check is not optimal (this happend in number 4s original claim)
Rayn is my top and only town for now.
The bolded: why wouldn't the doctor save any of them? What is the probability that there is a town fakeclaiming cop or two mafia fakeclaiming cop?
On September 18 2020 14:49 Monadel wrote: I dont really like either of the cop claims.
I do like shockeys more but it has a bit to do with it being first and the hydras post confusing me because its coming from two different people. Further to this also because I dont think the reaction to shockeys claim was what I'd think it would be if someone claimed my role.
I know directing power roles is bad but I think the doctor doesn't try to save either of the cop claims.
I also think the cop claims saying who they are going to check is not optimal (this happend in number 4s original claim)
Rayn is my top and only town for now.
The bolded: why wouldn't the doctor save any of them? What is the probability that there is a town fakeclaiming cop or two mafia fakeclaiming cop?
I dont think either of those two situations are what is happening
On September 18 2020 15:43 Monadel wrote: Hahaha glowingbear can you tell me the thought process that happend between your last few posts at the start of D1 please and thankyou
ROFL Yes I'll sleep now and once day1 arrives I'll tell you
On September 18 2020 14:49 Monadel wrote: I dont really like either of the cop claims.
I do like shockeys more but it has a bit to do with it being first and the hydras post confusing me because its coming from two different people. Further to this also because I dont think the reaction to shockeys claim was what I'd think it would be if someone claimed my role.
I know directing power roles is bad but I think the doctor doesn't try to save either of the cop claims.
I also think the cop claims saying who they are going to check is not optimal (this happend in number 4s original claim)
Rayn is my top and only town for now.
The bolded: why wouldn't the doctor save any of them? What is the probability that there is a town fakeclaiming cop or two mafia fakeclaiming cop?
I dont think either of those two situations are what is happening
Ok and I think I know what you're thinking so let's talk tomorrow
Like I understand why Damdred thinks Shockey’s claim looks better, I would put Monadel in this.
I already explained why we didnt cc inmediatly and I don’t feel to post that again, let it be what it is.
For those who had played mafia before here, you know shockey is a fluffy cutesy funny ball. Does he look bubbly? If Shockey was the cop he would be all “Lmaaaooooo i cant believe this game is soooo easy lmaoooo” posting fucking baby seals everywhere and having fun but here he is posting long boring posts that look they were typed by siri from iphone. No soul no nothing. Like even when he has been mafia before he hasnt been like this. Idk it makes me think he is being lectured.
And for those who don’t have the knowledge, I read people according to personality most likely and if they contradict what they tend to think.
Like I could have lived not cc but Ever wanted to engage with Shockey <~< and that outed us ad cop aghhh. Tho I understand her reasons. I think is my fault for wanting to go bravado lol.
1. Vivax : Probably reading this and frowning his face and thinking this game is confusing or mafia enjoying the mess. Null.
2. Shockeyy : His reaction obviously makes me think he is mafia so mafia.
3. Dadred : I don't know him that much, I think I have played with him once many many many years ago. Only thing I know is that he is one of the best mafia players or the best player ever here (according to rayn). And I know these two can read each other that makes me be a little be wary, on the other hand it had been years, I might go against rayn a bit here but he leans more town. Like 54% town?
4. GlowingBear: I am sorry NOT detective GB but I think you are mafia. You were kinda shaky in the beginning, I don’t think your soul is honest in the game. I can be wrong, but maybe you think Ever and me are town is to win Rayn’s trust. Not so sure. I was believing but then you said the cop shouldn’t be doc’d it is like ughhh
5. CopCake / Eversince: Forever town
6. Monadel : I think he is looking the game from a town perspective and it is what I would expect it to be. So, town.
Btw when I die, ask yourself only town this question.
Why would shockey Fake claim?
Shockey is not the kind of player that will go on his way to do this just because, he needs to be teamed with someone very vocal and that can win town trust easily to vouch for him.
On September 18 2020 18:16 Monadel wrote: So why did ES not counter claim rayn if they believed it
I can’t answer that, like her point of view.
For me, I didnt cc rayn inmediatly because I know he was joking (i read his not) and Rayn has a tendency to fake claim a lot, as town and as mafia. I think I posted that somewhere here.
Like Rayn’s actions speak for themselves as town, I guess you agree with that with fake claiming or not.
On September 18 2020 05:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay sue me for it.
Nonono it's fine. Do you now understand why I think you might be town?
not really, but educate me pls
You clearly thought about mechanics when starting the day You clearly knew that claiming cop is the best choice for mafia, so doing it right away would grant it credibility You didn't do that. Hence, you're probably town.
How about now?
If it alludes to this, I don't see how GB could even take the post at face value either way. I think any townie would just scroll over it and think 'meh, rayn made a shitpost, let's move on'.
On September 17 2020 23:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am not a cop you idiot.
The doctor should always protect the cop claim they find more believable. Unless there is a confirmed mafia on D1 we spend the whole 72 hours discussing and then we always no-lynch. Then, if the doctor is alive they are going to protect the more believable doc claim again (they can do that unless their role pm says they cannot, there is nothing about it in the role rules so it is allowed then). D2 we will have 4 checks and then we figure it out.
I think we need to get a vote going starting D1 about which of the cops is gonna claim their check first (best play is to have the fake cop claim first obviously). I am pretty sure smart people figure out why.
As for my reads i think the hydra is way more believable as a claimed cop than shockeyy is. Shockeyy was acting way too diplomatic with his claim, anyone who has played with shockeyy should think the same in my opinion. Basically:
On September 18 2020 07:12 GlowingBear wrote: Yeah but most of the real claims are a bit clunky and illogical. It felt more and more that they were telling the truth and Shockey wasn't really invested in hunting.
and
On September 18 2020 17:01 Number 4 wrote: For those who had played mafia before here, you know shockey is a fluffy cutesy funny ball. Does he look bubbly? If Shockey was the cop he would be all “Lmaaaooooo i cant believe this game is soooo easy lmaoooo” posting fucking baby seals everywhere and having fun but here he is posting long boring posts that look they were typed by siri from iphone. No soul no nothing. Like even when he has been mafia before he hasnt been like this. Idk it makes me think he is being lectured. - cop
posts there are pretty much what i think about the cop situation.
This leads me to think Dadred is the other mafia. I think Dadred should know better than this:
On September 18 2020 07:06 Dadred wrote: Shockeys claim looks more natural I think....
I think this is super bullshit for anyone who has played with shockeyy. You have to understand that at the time this post came out me and GB were basically grilling the hydra for the "illogicalities" of their claim and i am sure it looked like (at least i WANTED to give that impression) that we think shockeyy is the real cop. It makes sense for other mafia to "join the bandwagon" to protect your mafia buddy when other people have started it already. That's pretty much all i have to say about Dadred.
I think GB genuinely believes or believed when the claims happened, that it is NOT the correct play to claim for mafia. We had a discussion about it early in the game and i didn't feel like at all that GB is saying something he doesn't actually believe there. We can probably all agree that whoever is the fake cop has had a discussion about to claim or not in the scum QT. I don't think GB fits as mafia here for the reasons stated above.
I don't think Monadel is driving any particular agenda here. Sure there can be a chance he is mafia but i dont really see it at least for now.
Vivax hasn't posted and ironically that makes me think he is town, because well... mafia has discussed whether to claim or not in QT. Sure there is a chance that Vivax is indeed mafia but that would mean he is intentionally not posting at all and i don't really think Vivax does that even though he normally has huge problems posting as mafia.
That's what i have for N0. Protect the cop, get checks, no-lynch, protect the cop again if doc alive, get more checks, lynch accordingly.
On September 18 2020 05:20 Number 4 wrote: Really that's 2. If mafia claims cop we have 1. If doc fake claims and we have town flip... Well that's both? Seems silly to me.
-ES
I must say it's kinda hard to believe that you're the cop when you post this I would be so hyped to start Shockey's inquisition if I was the cop.
Why dont you like, idk... check the time and compare shockey and us?
Because you are focusing too much in us and shockey is like 0000000.
Because his claim makes sense and yours doesn't, sorry. ES reaction was... weal compared to the hype you get when you catch mafia fakeclaiming.
It makes more sense to realize mafia needs to fakeclaim and saying "ok we need to fakeclaim"
I'm almost done reading through so I'm going to give some clarity on the mechanics here, provided I recall them correctly from the drunk voice sessions.
I think town never lynches into the cop claims initially but avoids outing the doc, mafia never shoots the cop and just tries to find the doc.
So we just ignore the cop claims for now and just play standard mafia pretending the two claims aren't even in the game. Once the first checks start rolling in and we caught one mafia outside of the claims is when we decide which cop to lynch.
I think sandbagging N0 as to which cop you believe is town makes sense? Isn't mafia more likely to just shoot townies who believe the actual cop to be the cop at this point?
The doctor should always protect the cop claim they find more believable. Unless there is a confirmed mafia on D1 we spend the whole 72 hours discussing and then we always no-lynch. Then, if the doctor is alive they are going to protect the more believable doc claim again (they can do that unless their role pm says they cannot, there is nothing about it in the role rules so it is allowed then). D2 we will have 4 checks and then we figure it out.
Rayn why do you want to play based on checks and keeping the doc alive?
Why would mafia even try to kill the cop if it means the fakeclaim gets lynched automatically?
The doctor should always protect the cop claim they find more believable. Unless there is a confirmed mafia on D1 we spend the whole 72 hours discussing and then we always no-lynch. Then, if the doctor is alive they are going to protect the more believable doc claim again (they can do that unless their role pm says they cannot, there is nothing about it in the role rules so it is allowed then). D2 we will have 4 checks and then we figure it out.
Rayn why do you want to play based on checks and keeping the doc alive?
Why would mafia even try to kill the cop if it means the fakeclaim gets lynched automatically?
Because that's the correct play. You realise this is D1 mylo? Checks mean a lot here because we dont necessarily have enough time to figure out the game. I don't know if you have looked the games before but there is a reason normally the doctor isn't allowed to protect the same person twice in a row, hell the doctor isn't allowed to even ACT N0 usually in i'm a cop you idiot. Do you wonder why that is?
On September 18 2020 05:25 Number 4 wrote: Ok. Let us end this.
Shock start talking .
This, is post #144 so you can read the transition.
Shockey claimed and rayn told him to shut up because the doc would protect him. Like no questions asked.
And ever came and said “Shock start talking”, going against town general plan.
You know that this means nothing but a breadcrumb right? It's exactly what I said in the beginning of the game. This is far from outing yourselves.
On September 18 2020 17:15 Number 4 wrote: 1. Vivax : Probably reading this and frowning his face and thinking this game is confusing or mafia enjoying the mess. Null.
2. Shockeyy : His reaction obviously makes me think he is mafia so mafia.
3. Dadred : I don't know him that much, I think I have played with him once many many many years ago. Only thing I know is that he is one of the best mafia players or the best player ever here (according to rayn). And I know these two can read each other that makes me be a little be wary, on the other hand it had been years, I might go against rayn a bit here but he leans more town. Like 54% town?
4. GlowingBear: I am sorry NOT detective GB but I think you are mafia. You were kinda shaky in the beginning, I don’t think your soul is honest in the game. I can be wrong, but maybe you think Ever and me are town is to win Rayn’s trust. Not so sure. I was believing but then you said the cop shouldn’t be doc’d it is like ughhh
5. CopCake / Eversince: Forever town
6. Monadel : I think he is looking the game from a town perspective and it is what I would expect it to be. So, town.
8. Raynpelikoneet: Obs town.
1. Why would Vivax actively read the thread and not engage as either alignments? 2. His reaction? Or his CLAIM? Sometimes it seems you believe his claim and it's confusing as hell. 3. All you've said is "rayn believes this but I don't know haha he is probably more town than mafia". Any reason for why you think he is mafia? 4. Let me get this right. You think I'm mafia because I'm not being honest in this game? You think I faked believing you are town just to gain rayn's trust? Why would I do that? 6. This is the only read with a bit of "grounds" that you gave. I'd like you to talk more about the others 7. Like this one. I think rayn is town but obs town is kind of a stretch.
On September 19 2020 00:40 Vivax wrote: I'm caught up until this post but in the meantime I need GB to decipher this post, I don't understand this logic.
Rayn didn't do what and hence he's town? Not claim cop?
On September 18 2020 05:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay sue me for it.
Nonono it's fine. Do you now understand why I think you might be town?
not really, but educate me pls
You clearly thought about mechanics when starting the day You clearly knew that claiming cop is the best choice for mafia, so doing it right away would grant it credibility You didn't do that. Hence, you're probably town.
How about now?
If it alludes to this, I don't see how GB could even take the post at face value either way. I think any townie would just scroll over it and think 'meh, rayn made a shitpost, let's move on'.
On September 17 2020 23:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am not a cop you idiot.
I've went on his opening posts just to generate some discussion. I didn't really think I've caught on to something.I also didn't understand what he would expect with his question towards me. Then, when we started bouncing opinions and I was understanding how the mechanics influence the game, it came to my mind that mafia needs to cop claim and that rayn knows that, and that he would immediately claim cop in order to gain credibility in his claim. He didn't, so he might've been town.
On September 18 2020 17:15 Number 4 wrote: 1. Vivax : Probably reading this and frowning his face and thinking this game is confusing or mafia enjoying the mess. Null.
2. Shockeyy : His reaction obviously makes me think he is mafia so mafia.
3. Dadred : I don't know him that much, I think I have played with him once many many many years ago. Only thing I know is that he is one of the best mafia players or the best player ever here (according to rayn). And I know these two can read each other that makes me be a little be wary, on the other hand it had been years, I might go against rayn a bit here but he leans more town. Like 54% town?
4. GlowingBear: I am sorry NOT detective GB but I think you are mafia. You were kinda shaky in the beginning, I don’t think your soul is honest in the game. I can be wrong, but maybe you think Ever and me are town is to win Rayn’s trust. Not so sure. I was believing but then you said the cop shouldn’t be doc’d it is like ughhh
5. CopCake / Eversince: Forever town
6. Monadel : I think he is looking the game from a town perspective and it is what I would expect it to be. So, town.
8. Raynpelikoneet: Obs town.
2. His reaction? Or his CLAIM? Sometimes it seems you believe his claim and it's confusing as hell.
Why do you think that is? It's painfully obvious. There has been multiple scum slips especially from TWO people.
On September 18 2020 17:17 Number 4 wrote: Btw when I die, ask yourself only town this question.
Why would shockey Fake claim?
Shockey is not the kind of player that will go on his way to do this just because, he needs to be teamed with someone very vocal and that can win town trust easily to vouch for him.
On September 18 2020 16:53 Monadel wrote: Glowingbear is wrong with what
Not saving the cop, that is absolutly so bullshit. Mafia will get a free shot at the cop.
Like the best the town can do is to discuss who looks more town between shockey and myself and use the doc.
Cop being alive is what would make town win the game easier.
- cop
Yeah but glowing bear has gone back on that like within 10 posts ago.
Again we will discuss this D1 because maybe it will matter maybe not idk
Well say goodbye to your cop then.
- cop
I've said the doctor should save between the claims, not outside. Why would I suggest any of those possibilities as mafia here?
On September 18 2020 15:06 GlowingBear wrote: But anyway, Monadel is right. Doctor should save outside the cop claims. DOCTOR, YOU SHOULD SAVE OUTSIDE THE CLAIMS
On September 18 2020 15:06 GlowingBear wrote: But anyway, Monadel is right. Doctor should save outside the cop claims. DOCTOR, YOU SHOULD SAVE OUTSIDE THE CLAIMS
I hope the doctor reads this.
Am I dumb or something?
There is another post right there where I take that back. With big letters too.
On September 18 2020 17:17 Number 4 wrote: Btw when I die, ask yourself only town this question.
Why would shockey Fake claim?
Shockey is not the kind of player that will go on his way to do this just because, he needs to be teamed with someone very vocal and that can win town trust easily to vouch for him.
Exactly, why would I fake claim?
Also, if Number4 dies, if the claim is true, she will flip blue. We don't have to think much rofl
On September 18 2020 17:01 Number 4 wrote: Like I understand why Damdred thinks Shockey’s claim looks better, I would put Monadel in this.
I already explained why we didnt cc inmediatly and I don’t feel to post that again, let it be what it is.
For those who had played mafia before here, you know shockey is a fluffy cutesy funny ball. Does he look bubbly? If Shockey was the cop he would be all “Lmaaaooooo i cant believe this game is soooo easy lmaoooo” posting fucking baby seals everywhere and having fun but here he is posting long boring posts that look they were typed by siri from iphone. No soul no nothing. Like even when he has been mafia before he hasnt been like this. Idk it makes me think he is being lectured.
And for those who don’t have the knowledge, I read people according to personality most likely and if they contradict what they tend to think.
- cop
If I was single and ready to mingle, this would of made me all happy inside. But since you're mafia, and I'm taken, I see past the façade.
On September 18 2020 16:53 Monadel wrote: Glowingbear is wrong with what
Not saving the cop, that is absolutly so bullshit. Mafia will get a free shot at the cop.
Like the best the town can do is to discuss who looks more town between shockey and myself and use the doc.
Cop being alive is what would make town win the game easier.
- cop
Yeah but glowing bear has gone back on that like within 10 posts ago.
Again we will discuss this D1 because maybe it will matter maybe not idk
Well say goodbye to your cop then.
- cop
I've said the doctor should save between the claims, not outside. Why would I suggest any of those possibilities as mafia here?
On September 18 2020 15:06 GlowingBear wrote: But anyway, Monadel is right. Doctor should save outside the cop claims. DOCTOR, YOU SHOULD SAVE OUTSIDE THE CLAIMS
I hope the doctor reads this.
Am I dumb or something?
There is another post right there where I take that back. With big letters too.
Problem is you changed your mind way too fast.
And that doesnt change you jumped on someone opinion asap.
On September 18 2020 17:01 Number 4 wrote: Like I understand why Damdred thinks Shockey’s claim looks better, I would put Monadel in this.
I already explained why we didnt cc inmediatly and I don’t feel to post that again, let it be what it is.
For those who had played mafia before here, you know shockey is a fluffy cutesy funny ball. Does he look bubbly? If Shockey was the cop he would be all “Lmaaaooooo i cant believe this game is soooo easy lmaoooo” posting fucking baby seals everywhere and having fun but here he is posting long boring posts that look they were typed by siri from iphone. No soul no nothing. Like even when he has been mafia before he hasnt been like this. Idk it makes me think he is being lectured.
And for those who don’t have the knowledge, I read people according to personality most likely and if they contradict what they tend to think.
- cop
If I was single and ready to mingle, this would of made me all happy inside. But since you're mafia, and I'm taken, I see past the façade.
I am taken. :p
Mega taken, super taken, I am owned, like a pokemon in a poke ball.
The doctor should always protect the cop claim they find more believable. Unless there is a confirmed mafia on D1 we spend the whole 72 hours discussing and then we always no-lynch. Then, if the doctor is alive they are going to protect the more believable doc claim again (they can do that unless their role pm says they cannot, there is nothing about it in the role rules so it is allowed then). D2 we will have 4 checks and then we figure it out.
Rayn why do you want to play based on checks and keeping the doc alive?
Why would mafia even try to kill the cop if it means the fakeclaim gets lynched automatically?
Because that's the correct play. You realise this is D1 mylo? Checks mean a lot here because we dont necessarily have enough time to figure out the game. I don't know if you have looked the games before but there is a reason normally the doctor isn't allowed to protect the same person twice in a row, hell the doctor isn't allowed to even ACT N0 usually in i'm a cop you idiot. Do you wonder why that is?
This setup you can have doc follow cop every night but he can't heal himself afaik. But makes sense to heal one of the claims if it's mylo off the bat. I didn't think of that, otherwise I'd say nah.
I do think it'd have been better for town to not dig up too much information in this phase since if anything it only helps mafia and we have a 72h day and plenty of time for that soon (reminder: IML). The only plus side to this night really is if one of the cop claims gets shot and healed, but that doesn't look likely to me.
On September 18 2020 17:01 Number 4 wrote: Like I understand why Damdred thinks Shockey’s claim looks better, I would put Monadel in this.
I already explained why we didnt cc inmediatly and I don’t feel to post that again, let it be what it is.
For those who had played mafia before here, you know shockey is a fluffy cutesy funny ball. Does he look bubbly? If Shockey was the cop he would be all “Lmaaaooooo i cant believe this game is soooo easy lmaoooo” posting fucking baby seals everywhere and having fun but here he is posting long boring posts that look they were typed by siri from iphone. No soul no nothing. Like even when he has been mafia before he hasnt been like this. Idk it makes me think he is being lectured.
And for those who don’t have the knowledge, I read people according to personality most likely and if they contradict what they tend to think.
- cop
If I was single and ready to mingle, this would of made me all happy inside. But since you're mafia, and I'm taken, I see past the façade.
On September 18 2020 16:53 Monadel wrote: Glowingbear is wrong with what
Not saving the cop, that is absolutly so bullshit. Mafia will get a free shot at the cop.
Like the best the town can do is to discuss who looks more town between shockey and myself and use the doc.
Cop being alive is what would make town win the game easier.
- cop
Yeah but glowing bear has gone back on that like within 10 posts ago.
Again we will discuss this D1 because maybe it will matter maybe not idk
Well say goodbye to your cop then.
- cop
I've said the doctor should save between the claims, not outside. Why would I suggest any of those possibilities as mafia here?
On September 18 2020 15:06 GlowingBear wrote: But anyway, Monadel is right. Doctor should save outside the cop claims. DOCTOR, YOU SHOULD SAVE OUTSIDE THE CLAIMS
I hope the doctor reads this.
Am I dumb or something?
There is another post right there where I take that back. With big letters too.
Problem is you changed your mind way too fast.
And that doesnt change you jumped on someone opinion asap.
Sorry not sorry you feel pressure.
I'm sorry but you can clearly see that I've put thought on it. Do you think I'm mafia or do you want me to be mafia? Because even when you realize that I've made the opposite of what you've thought, you till call me mafia for it.
Let's do this: explain to me why I, as mafia, am motivated to act like I did.
On September 19 2020 00:40 Vivax wrote: I'm caught up until this post but in the meantime I need GB to decipher this post, I don't understand this logic.
Rayn didn't do what and hence he's town? Not claim cop?
On September 18 2020 05:48 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 18 2020 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 18 2020 05:41 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 18 2020 05:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay sue me for it.
Nonono it's fine. Do you now understand why I think you might be town?
not really, but educate me pls
You clearly thought about mechanics when starting the day You clearly knew that claiming cop is the best choice for mafia, so doing it right away would grant it credibility You didn't do that. Hence, you're probably town.
How about now?
If it alludes to this, I don't see how GB could even take the post at face value either way. I think any townie would just scroll over it and think 'meh, rayn made a shitpost, let's move on'.
On September 17 2020 23:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am not a cop you idiot.
I've went on his opening posts just to generate some discussion. I didn't really think I've caught on to something.I also didn't understand what he would expect with his question towards me. Then, when we started bouncing opinions and I was understanding how the mechanics influence the game, it came to my mind that mafia needs to cop claim and that rayn knows that, and that he would immediately claim cop in order to gain credibility in his claim. He didn't, so he might've been town.
I'm not sure I follow your metric here. I don't claim cop, ergo I'm town?
On September 18 2020 17:01 Number 4 wrote: Like I understand why Damdred thinks Shockey’s claim looks better, I would put Monadel in this.
I already explained why we didnt cc inmediatly and I don’t feel to post that again, let it be what it is.
For those who had played mafia before here, you know shockey is a fluffy cutesy funny ball. Does he look bubbly? If Shockey was the cop he would be all “Lmaaaooooo i cant believe this game is soooo easy lmaoooo” posting fucking baby seals everywhere and having fun but here he is posting long boring posts that look they were typed by siri from iphone. No soul no nothing. Like even when he has been mafia before he hasnt been like this. Idk it makes me think he is being lectured.
And for those who don’t have the knowledge, I read people according to personality most likely and if they contradict what they tend to think.
- cop
If I was single and ready to mingle, this would of made me all happy inside. But since you're mafia, and I'm taken, I see past the façade.
I am taken. :p
Mega taken, super taken, I am owned, like a pokemon in a poke ball.
Modern slavery shouldn't be glorified. Nintendo supports animal abuse. Stop Japan.
The doctor should always protect the cop claim they find more believable. Unless there is a confirmed mafia on D1 we spend the whole 72 hours discussing and then we always no-lynch. Then, if the doctor is alive they are going to protect the more believable doc claim again (they can do that unless their role pm says they cannot, there is nothing about it in the role rules so it is allowed then). D2 we will have 4 checks and then we figure it out.
Rayn why do you want to play based on checks and keeping the doc alive?
Why would mafia even try to kill the cop if it means the fakeclaim gets lynched automatically?
Because that's the correct play. You realise this is D1 mylo? Checks mean a lot here because we dont necessarily have enough time to figure out the game. I don't know if you have looked the games before but there is a reason normally the doctor isn't allowed to protect the same person twice in a row, hell the doctor isn't allowed to even ACT N0 usually in i'm a cop you idiot. Do you wonder why that is?
This setup you can have doc follow cop every night but he can't heal himself afaik. But makes sense to heal one of the claims if it's mylo off the bat. I didn't think of that, otherwise I'd say nah.
I do think it'd have been better for town to not dig up too much information in this phase since if anything it only helps mafia and we have a 72h day and plenty of time for that soon (reminder: IML). The only plus side to this night really is if one of the cop claims gets shot and healed, but that doesn't look likely to me.
We shouldn't be talking about this anymore. Mafia would discuss mechanics in their QT anyway. Understanding how the mechanic affects behavior is crucial for town, especially for the cop and for the doc. We only start to help mafia when we start to point out who the doc will heal specifically, and I don't think that is the case here (until now at least)
On September 18 2020 15:06 GlowingBear wrote: But anyway, Monadel is right. Doctor should save outside the cop claims. DOCTOR, YOU SHOULD SAVE OUTSIDE THE CLAIMS
On September 18 2020 17:01 Number 4 wrote: Like I understand why Damdred thinks Shockey’s claim looks better, I would put Monadel in this.
I already explained why we didnt cc inmediatly and I don’t feel to post that again, let it be what it is.
For those who had played mafia before here, you know shockey is a fluffy cutesy funny ball. Does he look bubbly? If Shockey was the cop he would be all “Lmaaaooooo i cant believe this game is soooo easy lmaoooo” posting fucking baby seals everywhere and having fun but here he is posting long boring posts that look they were typed by siri from iphone. No soul no nothing. Like even when he has been mafia before he hasnt been like this. Idk it makes me think he is being lectured.
And for those who don’t have the knowledge, I read people according to personality most likely and if they contradict what they tend to think.
- cop
If I was single and ready to mingle, this would of made me all happy inside. But since you're mafia, and I'm taken, I see past the façade.
On September 18 2020 16:53 Monadel wrote: Glowingbear is wrong with what
Not saving the cop, that is absolutly so bullshit. Mafia will get a free shot at the cop.
Like the best the town can do is to discuss who looks more town between shockey and myself and use the doc.
Cop being alive is what would make town win the game easier.
- cop
Yeah but glowing bear has gone back on that like within 10 posts ago.
Again we will discuss this D1 because maybe it will matter maybe not idk
Well say goodbye to your cop then.
- cop
I've said the doctor should save between the claims, not outside. Why would I suggest any of those possibilities as mafia here?
On September 18 2020 15:06 GlowingBear wrote: But anyway, Monadel is right. Doctor should save outside the cop claims. DOCTOR, YOU SHOULD SAVE OUTSIDE THE CLAIMS
I hope the doctor reads this.
Am I dumb or something?
There is another post right there where I take that back. With big letters too.
Problem is you changed your mind way too fast.
And that doesnt change you jumped on someone opinion asap.
Sorry not sorry you feel pressure.
I'm sorry but you can clearly see that I've put thought on it. Do you think I'm mafia or do you want me to be mafia? Because even when you realize that I've made the opposite of what you've thought, you till call me mafia for it.
Let's do this: explain to me why I, as mafia, am motivated to act like I did.
I don't want you to be mafia but I think you are mafia.
I am sorry not detective Glowing bear but I really think you are mafia .
On September 19 2020 00:40 Vivax wrote: I'm caught up until this post but in the meantime I need GB to decipher this post, I don't understand this logic.
Rayn didn't do what and hence he's town? Not claim cop?
On September 18 2020 05:48 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 18 2020 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 18 2020 05:41 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 18 2020 05:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay sue me for it.
Nonono it's fine. Do you now understand why I think you might be town?
not really, but educate me pls
You clearly thought about mechanics when starting the day You clearly knew that claiming cop is the best choice for mafia, so doing it right away would grant it credibility You didn't do that. Hence, you're probably town.
How about now?
If it alludes to this, I don't see how GB could even take the post at face value either way. I think any townie would just scroll over it and think 'meh, rayn made a shitpost, let's move on'.
On September 17 2020 23:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am not a cop you idiot.
I've went on his opening posts just to generate some discussion. I didn't really think I've caught on to something.I also didn't understand what he would expect with his question towards me. Then, when we started bouncing opinions and I was understanding how the mechanics influence the game, it came to my mind that mafia needs to cop claim and that rayn knows that, and that he would immediately claim cop in order to gain credibility in his claim. He didn't, so he might've been town.
I'm not sure I follow your metric here. I don't claim cop, ergo I'm town?
One of two mafias will always claim. Rayn clearly had in mind that a fakeclaim is necessary. He was one of the first posters. It would be probably good if he fakeclaimed out of the bat. He didn't. That's why he is more likely to be town at that point than mafia.
In other words, yeah, "I don't claim cop, ergo, I'm town, in that specific context".
On September 18 2020 16:53 Monadel wrote: Glowingbear is wrong with what
Not saving the cop, that is absolutly so bullshit. Mafia will get a free shot at the cop.
Like the best the town can do is to discuss who looks more town between shockey and myself and use the doc.
Cop being alive is what would make town win the game easier.
- cop
Yeah but glowing bear has gone back on that like within 10 posts ago.
Again we will discuss this D1 because maybe it will matter maybe not idk
Well say goodbye to your cop then.
- cop
I've said the doctor should save between the claims, not outside. Why would I suggest any of those possibilities as mafia here?
On September 18 2020 15:06 GlowingBear wrote: But anyway, Monadel is right. Doctor should save outside the cop claims. DOCTOR, YOU SHOULD SAVE OUTSIDE THE CLAIMS
On September 18 2020 17:01 Number 4 wrote: Like I understand why Damdred thinks Shockey’s claim looks better, I would put Monadel in this.
I already explained why we didnt cc inmediatly and I don’t feel to post that again, let it be what it is.
For those who had played mafia before here, you know shockey is a fluffy cutesy funny ball. Does he look bubbly? If Shockey was the cop he would be all “Lmaaaooooo i cant believe this game is soooo easy lmaoooo” posting fucking baby seals everywhere and having fun but here he is posting long boring posts that look they were typed by siri from iphone. No soul no nothing. Like even when he has been mafia before he hasnt been like this. Idk it makes me think he is being lectured.
And for those who don’t have the knowledge, I read people according to personality most likely and if they contradict what they tend to think.
- cop
If I was single and ready to mingle, this would of made me all happy inside. But since you're mafia, and I'm taken, I see past the façade.
~Doctor Seuss
On September 19 2020 02:05 Number 4 wrote:
On September 19 2020 02:00 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 19 2020 01:59 Number 4 wrote:
On September 19 2020 01:49 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 18 2020 17:15 Number 4 wrote:
On September 18 2020 17:12 Monadel wrote:
On September 18 2020 17:04 Number 4 wrote:
On September 18 2020 16:53 Monadel wrote: Glowingbear is wrong with what
Not saving the cop, that is absolutly so bullshit. Mafia will get a free shot at the cop.
Like the best the town can do is to discuss who looks more town between shockey and myself and use the doc.
Cop being alive is what would make town win the game easier.
- cop
Yeah but glowing bear has gone back on that like within 10 posts ago.
Again we will discuss this D1 because maybe it will matter maybe not idk
Well say goodbye to your cop then.
- cop
I've said the doctor should save between the claims, not outside. Why would I suggest any of those possibilities as mafia here?
On September 18 2020 15:06 GlowingBear wrote: But anyway, Monadel is right. Doctor should save outside the cop claims. DOCTOR, YOU SHOULD SAVE OUTSIDE THE CLAIMS
I hope the doctor reads this.
Am I dumb or something?
There is another post right there where I take that back. With big letters too.
Problem is you changed your mind way too fast.
And that doesnt change you jumped on someone opinion asap.
Sorry not sorry you feel pressure.
I'm sorry but you can clearly see that I've put thought on it. Do you think I'm mafia or do you want me to be mafia? Because even when you realize that I've made the opposite of what you've thought, you till call me mafia for it.
Let's do this: explain to me why I, as mafia, am motivated to act like I did.
I don't want you to be mafia but I think you are mafia.
I am sorry not detective Glowing bear but I really think you are mafia .
But why do you avoid actually investigating the reasons you believe that, why do you refuse to post your thought process, your reasoning, and why do you ignore the list post I've asked you to address?
It's like you're actively not wanting to give information and it's frustrating because you're the cop claim I tend to believe the most.
On September 18 2020 16:53 Monadel wrote: Glowingbear is wrong with what
Not saving the cop, that is absolutly so bullshit. Mafia will get a free shot at the cop.
Like the best the town can do is to discuss who looks more town between shockey and myself and use the doc.
Cop being alive is what would make town win the game easier.
- cop
Yeah but glowing bear has gone back on that like within 10 posts ago.
Again we will discuss this D1 because maybe it will matter maybe not idk
Well say goodbye to your cop then.
- cop
I've said the doctor should save between the claims, not outside. Why would I suggest any of those possibilities as mafia here?
On September 18 2020 15:06 GlowingBear wrote: But anyway, Monadel is right. Doctor should save outside the cop claims. DOCTOR, YOU SHOULD SAVE OUTSIDE THE CLAIMS
I hope the doctor reads this.
Am I dumb or something?
There is another post right there where I take that back. With big letters too.
Problem is you changed your mind way too fast.
And that doesnt change you jumped on someone opinion asap.
Sorry not sorry you feel pressure.
Didn't you get the GB memo? I would be surprised if you don't get something like that from him as town.
On September 18 2020 17:01 Number 4 wrote: Like I understand why Damdred thinks Shockey’s claim looks better, I would put Monadel in this.
I already explained why we didnt cc inmediatly and I don’t feel to post that again, let it be what it is.
For those who had played mafia before here, you know shockey is a fluffy cutesy funny ball. Does he look bubbly? If Shockey was the cop he would be all “Lmaaaooooo i cant believe this game is soooo easy lmaoooo” posting fucking baby seals everywhere and having fun but here he is posting long boring posts that look they were typed by siri from iphone. No soul no nothing. Like even when he has been mafia before he hasnt been like this. Idk it makes me think he is being lectured.
And for those who don’t have the knowledge, I read people according to personality most likely and if they contradict what they tend to think.
- cop
If I was single and ready to mingle, this would of made me all happy inside. But since you're mafia, and I'm taken, I see past the façade.
~Doctor Seuss
On September 19 2020 02:05 Number 4 wrote:
On September 19 2020 02:00 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 19 2020 01:59 Number 4 wrote:
On September 19 2020 01:49 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 18 2020 17:15 Number 4 wrote:
On September 18 2020 17:12 Monadel wrote:
On September 18 2020 17:04 Number 4 wrote: [quote]
Not saving the cop, that is absolutly so bullshit. Mafia will get a free shot at the cop.
Like the best the town can do is to discuss who looks more town between shockey and myself and use the doc.
Cop being alive is what would make town win the game easier.
- cop
Yeah but glowing bear has gone back on that like within 10 posts ago.
Again we will discuss this D1 because maybe it will matter maybe not idk
Well say goodbye to your cop then.
- cop
I've said the doctor should save between the claims, not outside. Why would I suggest any of those possibilities as mafia here?
On September 18 2020 15:06 GlowingBear wrote: But anyway, Monadel is right. Doctor should save outside the cop claims. DOCTOR, YOU SHOULD SAVE OUTSIDE THE CLAIMS
I hope the doctor reads this.
Am I dumb or something?
There is another post right there where I take that back. With big letters too.
Problem is you changed your mind way too fast.
And that doesnt change you jumped on someone opinion asap.
Sorry not sorry you feel pressure.
I'm sorry but you can clearly see that I've put thought on it. Do you think I'm mafia or do you want me to be mafia? Because even when you realize that I've made the opposite of what you've thought, you till call me mafia for it.
Let's do this: explain to me why I, as mafia, am motivated to act like I did.
I don't want you to be mafia but I think you are mafia.
I am sorry not detective Glowing bear but I really think you are mafia .
But why do you avoid actually investigating the reasons you believe that, why do you refuse to post your thought process, your reasoning, and why do you ignore the list post I've asked you to address?
It's like you're actively not wanting to give information and it's frustrating because you're the cop claim I tend to believe the most.
I have gave my process, I think you are acting very opportunistic, I also think Shockey needs to be with someone more likely active on the thread and the person that fits the agenda to be with him is you.
On September 18 2020 16:53 Monadel wrote: Glowingbear is wrong with what
Not saving the cop, that is absolutly so bullshit. Mafia will get a free shot at the cop.
Like the best the town can do is to discuss who looks more town between shockey and myself and use the doc.
Cop being alive is what would make town win the game easier.
- cop
Yeah but glowing bear has gone back on that like within 10 posts ago.
Again we will discuss this D1 because maybe it will matter maybe not idk
Well say goodbye to your cop then.
- cop
I've said the doctor should save between the claims, not outside. Why would I suggest any of those possibilities as mafia here?
On September 18 2020 15:06 GlowingBear wrote: But anyway, Monadel is right. Doctor should save outside the cop claims. DOCTOR, YOU SHOULD SAVE OUTSIDE THE CLAIMS
I hope the doctor reads this.
Am I dumb or something?
There is another post right there where I take that back. With big letters too.
Problem is you changed your mind way too fast.
And that doesnt change you jumped on someone opinion asap.
Sorry not sorry you feel pressure.
Didn't you get the GB memo? I would be surprised if you don't get something like that from him as town.
Well I have to think of someone else as mafia besides GB + Shockey is... Monadel?
I lack the knowledge if Dadred has posted or played recently, I remember I once read in the Mafia talking thread of him becoming a dad, shockey and slam saying they are going to be too but that's as far as I know.
On September 18 2020 17:01 Number 4 wrote: Like I understand why Damdred thinks Shockey’s claim looks better, I would put Monadel in this.
I already explained why we didnt cc inmediatly and I don’t feel to post that again, let it be what it is.
For those who had played mafia before here, you know shockey is a fluffy cutesy funny ball. Does he look bubbly? If Shockey was the cop he would be all “Lmaaaooooo i cant believe this game is soooo easy lmaoooo” posting fucking baby seals everywhere and having fun but here he is posting long boring posts that look they were typed by siri from iphone. No soul no nothing. Like even when he has been mafia before he hasnt been like this. Idk it makes me think he is being lectured.
And for those who don’t have the knowledge, I read people according to personality most likely and if they contradict what they tend to think.
- cop
If I was single and ready to mingle, this would of made me all happy inside. But since you're mafia, and I'm taken, I see past the façade.
~Doctor Seuss
On September 19 2020 02:05 Number 4 wrote:
On September 19 2020 02:00 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 19 2020 01:59 Number 4 wrote:
On September 19 2020 01:49 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 18 2020 17:15 Number 4 wrote:
On September 18 2020 17:12 Monadel wrote: [quote]
Yeah but glowing bear has gone back on that like within 10 posts ago.
Again we will discuss this D1 because maybe it will matter maybe not idk
Well say goodbye to your cop then.
- cop
I've said the doctor should save between the claims, not outside. Why would I suggest any of those possibilities as mafia here?
On September 18 2020 15:06 GlowingBear wrote: But anyway, Monadel is right. Doctor should save outside the cop claims. DOCTOR, YOU SHOULD SAVE OUTSIDE THE CLAIMS
I hope the doctor reads this.
Am I dumb or something?
There is another post right there where I take that back. With big letters too.
Problem is you changed your mind way too fast.
And that doesnt change you jumped on someone opinion asap.
Sorry not sorry you feel pressure.
I'm sorry but you can clearly see that I've put thought on it. Do you think I'm mafia or do you want me to be mafia? Because even when you realize that I've made the opposite of what you've thought, you till call me mafia for it.
Let's do this: explain to me why I, as mafia, am motivated to act like I did.
I don't want you to be mafia but I think you are mafia.
I am sorry not detective Glowing bear but I really think you are mafia .
But why do you avoid actually investigating the reasons you believe that, why do you refuse to post your thought process, your reasoning, and why do you ignore the list post I've asked you to address?
It's like you're actively not wanting to give information and it's frustrating because you're the cop claim I tend to believe the most.
I have gave my process, I think you are acting very opportunistic, I also think Shockey needs to be with someone more likely active on the thread and the person that fits the agenda to be with him is you.
Explain to me what opportunistic means. What did I do that is opportunistic?
Since players are RNGd, aren't you creating a perfect scum team and fitting people into it instead of interpreting people's behaviour without bias?
On September 18 2020 17:01 Number 4 wrote: Like I understand why Damdred thinks Shockey’s claim looks better, I would put Monadel in this.
I already explained why we didnt cc inmediatly and I don’t feel to post that again, let it be what it is.
For those who had played mafia before here, you know shockey is a fluffy cutesy funny ball. Does he look bubbly? If Shockey was the cop he would be all “Lmaaaooooo i cant believe this game is soooo easy lmaoooo” posting fucking baby seals everywhere and having fun but here he is posting long boring posts that look they were typed by siri from iphone. No soul no nothing. Like even when he has been mafia before he hasnt been like this. Idk it makes me think he is being lectured.
And for those who don’t have the knowledge, I read people according to personality most likely and if they contradict what they tend to think.
- cop
If I was single and ready to mingle, this would of made me all happy inside. But since you're mafia, and I'm taken, I see past the façade.
~Doctor Seuss
On September 19 2020 02:05 Number 4 wrote:
On September 19 2020 02:00 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 19 2020 01:59 Number 4 wrote:
On September 19 2020 01:49 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 18 2020 17:15 Number 4 wrote: [quote]
Well say goodbye to your cop then.
- cop
I've said the doctor should save between the claims, not outside. Why would I suggest any of those possibilities as mafia here?
On September 18 2020 15:06 GlowingBear wrote: But anyway, Monadel is right. Doctor should save outside the cop claims. DOCTOR, YOU SHOULD SAVE OUTSIDE THE CLAIMS
I hope the doctor reads this.
Am I dumb or something?
There is another post right there where I take that back. With big letters too.
Problem is you changed your mind way too fast.
And that doesnt change you jumped on someone opinion asap.
Sorry not sorry you feel pressure.
I'm sorry but you can clearly see that I've put thought on it. Do you think I'm mafia or do you want me to be mafia? Because even when you realize that I've made the opposite of what you've thought, you till call me mafia for it.
Let's do this: explain to me why I, as mafia, am motivated to act like I did.
I don't want you to be mafia but I think you are mafia.
I am sorry not detective Glowing bear but I really think you are mafia .
But why do you avoid actually investigating the reasons you believe that, why do you refuse to post your thought process, your reasoning, and why do you ignore the list post I've asked you to address?
It's like you're actively not wanting to give information and it's frustrating because you're the cop claim I tend to believe the most.
I have gave my process, I think you are acting very opportunistic, I also think Shockey needs to be with someone more likely active on the thread and the person that fits the agenda to be with him is you.
Explain to me what opportunistic means. What did I do that is opportunistic?
Since players are RNGd, aren't you creating a perfect scum team and fitting people into it instead of interpreting people's behaviour without bias?
Why are you putting words on my mouth?
and I know it is rngd, and I am taking information for how Shockey is reacting, and the one that fits to be his partner the most is you.
Like, why instead of asking me the same things over and over again and making my process to look like not important you point me what have you done that is TOWN?
On September 19 2020 02:35 Number 4 wrote: Like, his is hard to say but I think Vivax is obvious town.
Dear, you're basing your game on associative reads only. Here's your stream of thought as I see it:
Shockey is mafia. He needs to be with someone who's very active. Rayn isn't mafia because *reasons* obs town. The second most active person is GB. GB is mafia. (This premisse is already wrong because Shockey can be paired with anyone in the thread, not a vocal one).
Now, GB is mafia. Then Vivax who is also suspicious of GB is town. Damdred is town because rayn says so and because he is also wary of GB.
The only person who you call town without associative reads is Monadel. But after you've "found" the two mafias, there is no way he can me mafia too, right?
On September 18 2020 05:20 Number 4 wrote: Really that's 2. If mafia claims cop we have 1. If doc fake claims and we have town flip... Well that's both? Seems silly to me.
-ES
I must say it's kinda hard to believe that you're the cop when you post this I would be so hyped to start Shockey's inquisition if I was the cop.
Why dont you like, idk... check the time and compare shockey and us?
Because you are focusing too much in us and shockey is like 0000000.
Because his claim makes sense and yours doesn't, sorry. ES reaction was... weal compared to the hype you get when you catch mafia fakeclaiming.
It makes more sense to realize mafia needs to fakeclaim and saying "ok we need to fakeclaim"
You jump on a opinion that fits your agenda, you talk about mechanics in a complicated way that at least I don't care and I don't remember it to be "glowingbearesque", like it is you are not yourself this game.
The whole "rayn claiming not the cop" and all that process is losing time, sorry if I sound mean.
On September 19 2020 02:35 Number 4 wrote: Like, his is hard to say but I think Vivax is obvious town.
Dear, you're basing your game on associative reads only. Here's your stream of thought as I see it:
Shockey is mafia. He needs to be with someone who's very active. Rayn isn't mafia because *reasons* obs town. The second most active person is GB. GB is mafia. (This premisse is already wrong because Shockey can be paired with anyone in the thread, not a vocal one).
Now, GB is mafia. Then Vivax who is also suspicious of GB is town. Damdred is town because rayn says so and because he is also wary of GB.
The only person who you call town without associative reads is Monadel. But after you've "found" the two mafias, there is no way he can me mafia too, right?
On September 18 2020 17:01 Number 4 wrote: Like I understand why Damdred thinks Shockey’s claim looks better, I would put Monadel in this.
I already explained why we didnt cc inmediatly and I don’t feel to post that again, let it be what it is.
For those who had played mafia before here, you know shockey is a fluffy cutesy funny ball. Does he look bubbly? If Shockey was the cop he would be all “Lmaaaooooo i cant believe this game is soooo easy lmaoooo” posting fucking baby seals everywhere and having fun but here he is posting long boring posts that look they were typed by siri from iphone. No soul no nothing. Like even when he has been mafia before he hasnt been like this. Idk it makes me think he is being lectured.
And for those who don’t have the knowledge, I read people according to personality most likely and if they contradict what they tend to think.
- cop
If I was single and ready to mingle, this would of made me all happy inside. But since you're mafia, and I'm taken, I see past the façade.
~Doctor Seuss
On September 19 2020 02:05 Number 4 wrote:
On September 19 2020 02:00 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 19 2020 01:59 Number 4 wrote:
On September 19 2020 01:49 GlowingBear wrote: [quote]
I've said the doctor should save between the claims, not outside. Why would I suggest any of those possibilities as mafia here?
On September 18 2020 15:06 GlowingBear wrote: But anyway, Monadel is right. Doctor should save outside the cop claims. DOCTOR, YOU SHOULD SAVE OUTSIDE THE CLAIMS
I hope the doctor reads this.
Am I dumb or something?
There is another post right there where I take that back. With big letters too.
Problem is you changed your mind way too fast.
And that doesnt change you jumped on someone opinion asap.
Sorry not sorry you feel pressure.
I'm sorry but you can clearly see that I've put thought on it. Do you think I'm mafia or do you want me to be mafia? Because even when you realize that I've made the opposite of what you've thought, you till call me mafia for it.
Let's do this: explain to me why I, as mafia, am motivated to act like I did.
I don't want you to be mafia but I think you are mafia.
I am sorry not detective Glowing bear but I really think you are mafia .
But why do you avoid actually investigating the reasons you believe that, why do you refuse to post your thought process, your reasoning, and why do you ignore the list post I've asked you to address?
It's like you're actively not wanting to give information and it's frustrating because you're the cop claim I tend to believe the most.
I have gave my process, I think you are acting very opportunistic, I also think Shockey needs to be with someone more likely active on the thread and the person that fits the agenda to be with him is you.
Explain to me what opportunistic means. What did I do that is opportunistic?
Since players are RNGd, aren't you creating a perfect scum team and fitting people into it instead of interpreting people's behaviour without bias?
Why are you putting words on my mouth?
and I know it is rngd, and I am taking information for how Shockey is reacting, and the one that fits to be his partner the most is you.
Like, why instead of asking me the same things over and over again and making my process to look like not important you point me what have you done that is TOWN?
You're assuming Shockey would be more vocal if he was partned with someone who is a lurker, which is just WIFOM.
I am not one to judge if I am town and to start chasing posts that makes me town. Everything I post makes me town because that's where I'm coming from. I'm sorry but it's impossible for me to emphasize what makes me more town.
I keep asking the same things over and over because your answers are superficial and I want to get deeper in your thought process so I can figure you out better. That why I keep asking you to talk about the list post.
On September 19 2020 02:35 Number 4 wrote: Like, his is hard to say but I think Vivax is obvious town.
Dear, you're basing your game on associative reads only. Here's your stream of thought as I see it:
Shockey is mafia. He needs to be with someone who's very active. Rayn isn't mafia because *reasons* obs town. The second most active person is GB. GB is mafia. (This premisse is already wrong because Shockey can be paired with anyone in the thread, not a vocal one).
Now, GB is mafia. Then Vivax who is also suspicious of GB is town. Damdred is town because rayn says so and because he is also wary of GB.
The only person who you call town without associative reads is Monadel. But after you've "found" the two mafias, there is no way he can me mafia too, right?
This is a lie, Rayn thinks Dadred is mafia...
Ok, you're right, I was thinking about the time where he basically said "Damdred is town because reasons". But he thinks damdy is mafia lol. I take that back
On September 18 2020 17:01 Number 4 wrote: Like I understand why Damdred thinks Shockey’s claim looks better, I would put Monadel in this.
I already explained why we didnt cc inmediatly and I don’t feel to post that again, let it be what it is.
For those who had played mafia before here, you know shockey is a fluffy cutesy funny ball. Does he look bubbly? If Shockey was the cop he would be all “Lmaaaooooo i cant believe this game is soooo easy lmaoooo” posting fucking baby seals everywhere and having fun but here he is posting long boring posts that look they were typed by siri from iphone. No soul no nothing. Like even when he has been mafia before he hasnt been like this. Idk it makes me think he is being lectured.
And for those who don’t have the knowledge, I read people according to personality most likely and if they contradict what they tend to think.
- cop
If I was single and ready to mingle, this would of made me all happy inside. But since you're mafia, and I'm taken, I see past the façade.
~Doctor Seuss
On September 19 2020 02:05 Number 4 wrote:
On September 19 2020 02:00 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 19 2020 01:59 Number 4 wrote: [quote]
[quote]
Am I dumb or something?
There is another post right there where I take that back. With big letters too.
Problem is you changed your mind way too fast.
And that doesnt change you jumped on someone opinion asap.
Sorry not sorry you feel pressure.
I'm sorry but you can clearly see that I've put thought on it. Do you think I'm mafia or do you want me to be mafia? Because even when you realize that I've made the opposite of what you've thought, you till call me mafia for it.
Let's do this: explain to me why I, as mafia, am motivated to act like I did.
I don't want you to be mafia but I think you are mafia.
I am sorry not detective Glowing bear but I really think you are mafia .
But why do you avoid actually investigating the reasons you believe that, why do you refuse to post your thought process, your reasoning, and why do you ignore the list post I've asked you to address?
It's like you're actively not wanting to give information and it's frustrating because you're the cop claim I tend to believe the most.
I have gave my process, I think you are acting very opportunistic, I also think Shockey needs to be with someone more likely active on the thread and the person that fits the agenda to be with him is you.
Explain to me what opportunistic means. What did I do that is opportunistic?
Since players are RNGd, aren't you creating a perfect scum team and fitting people into it instead of interpreting people's behaviour without bias?
Why are you putting words on my mouth?
and I know it is rngd, and I am taking information for how Shockey is reacting, and the one that fits to be his partner the most is you.
Like, why instead of asking me the same things over and over again and making my process to look like not important you point me what have you done that is TOWN?
You're assuming Shockey would be more vocal if he was partned with someone who is a lurker, which is just WIFOM.
I am not one to judge if I am town and to start chasing posts that makes me town. Everything I post makes me town because that's where I'm coming from. I'm sorry but it's impossible for me to emphasize what makes me more town.
I keep asking the same things over and over because your answers are superficial and I want to get deeper in your thought process so I can figure you out better. That why I keep asking you to talk about the list post.
No I am not, I said Shockey claim came from a plan and the other person needs to be active, Shockey's activity has nothing to do with this, in fact Shockey has been very calm in this game.
On September 18 2020 17:01 Number 4 wrote: Like I understand why Damdred thinks Shockey’s claim looks better, I would put Monadel in this.
I already explained why we didnt cc inmediatly and I don’t feel to post that again, let it be what it is.
For those who had played mafia before here, you know shockey is a fluffy cutesy funny ball. Does he look bubbly? If Shockey was the cop he would be all “Lmaaaooooo i cant believe this game is soooo easy lmaoooo” posting fucking baby seals everywhere and having fun but here he is posting long boring posts that look they were typed by siri from iphone. No soul no nothing. Like even when he has been mafia before he hasnt been like this. Idk it makes me think he is being lectured.
And for those who don’t have the knowledge, I read people according to personality most likely and if they contradict what they tend to think.
- cop
If I was single and ready to mingle, this would of made me all happy inside. But since you're mafia, and I'm taken, I see past the façade.
~Doctor Seuss
On September 19 2020 02:05 Number 4 wrote:
On September 19 2020 02:00 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 19 2020 01:59 Number 4 wrote:
On September 19 2020 01:49 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 18 2020 17:15 Number 4 wrote: [quote]
Well say goodbye to your cop then.
- cop
I've said the doctor should save between the claims, not outside. Why would I suggest any of those possibilities as mafia here?
On September 18 2020 15:06 GlowingBear wrote: But anyway, Monadel is right. Doctor should save outside the cop claims. DOCTOR, YOU SHOULD SAVE OUTSIDE THE CLAIMS
I hope the doctor reads this.
Am I dumb or something?
There is another post right there where I take that back. With big letters too.
Problem is you changed your mind way too fast.
And that doesnt change you jumped on someone opinion asap.
Sorry not sorry you feel pressure.
I'm sorry but you can clearly see that I've put thought on it. Do you think I'm mafia or do you want me to be mafia? Because even when you realize that I've made the opposite of what you've thought, you till call me mafia for it.
Let's do this: explain to me why I, as mafia, am motivated to act like I did.
I don't want you to be mafia but I think you are mafia.
I am sorry not detective Glowing bear but I really think you are mafia .
But why do you avoid actually investigating the reasons you believe that, why do you refuse to post your thought process, your reasoning, and why do you ignore the list post I've asked you to address?
It's like you're actively not wanting to give information and it's frustrating because you're the cop claim I tend to believe the most.
I have gave my process, I think you are acting very opportunistic, I also think Shockey needs to be with someone more likely active on the thread and the person that fits the agenda to be with him is you.
Explain to me what opportunistic means. What did I do that is opportunistic?
Since players are RNGd, aren't you creating a perfect scum team and fitting people into it instead of interpreting people's behaviour without bias?
She is saying based on how the claim happened shockeyy needs to be mafia with someone who is active this game and that fits you. I don't really understand the thought process because everyone has been active and had a chance to talk about fakeclaiming except for possibly Vivax. Like between everyone else there is no difference in that matter, it doesn't matter if the other mafia person has posted 5 or 100 times.
On September 19 2020 02:45 Number 4 wrote: You are trying in a very sutile way to call me mafia, but I have posted several times why I think you are mafia.
No, I'm trying to talk about your reads, only. Being convinced you are confirmed town is crucial for this game, at least for me. And if you're town, we need to organize ourselves, and I can't organize town if you think I'm mafia, especially for reasons that doesn't make me mafia.
On September 18 2020 17:01 Number 4 wrote: Like I understand why Damdred thinks Shockey’s claim looks better, I would put Monadel in this.
I already explained why we didnt cc inmediatly and I don’t feel to post that again, let it be what it is.
For those who had played mafia before here, you know shockey is a fluffy cutesy funny ball. Does he look bubbly? If Shockey was the cop he would be all “Lmaaaooooo i cant believe this game is soooo easy lmaoooo” posting fucking baby seals everywhere and having fun but here he is posting long boring posts that look they were typed by siri from iphone. No soul no nothing. Like even when he has been mafia before he hasnt been like this. Idk it makes me think he is being lectured.
And for those who don’t have the knowledge, I read people according to personality most likely and if they contradict what they tend to think.
- cop
If I was single and ready to mingle, this would of made me all happy inside. But since you're mafia, and I'm taken, I see past the façade.
~Doctor Seuss
On September 19 2020 02:05 Number 4 wrote:
On September 19 2020 02:00 GlowingBear wrote: [quote]
There is another post right there where I take that back. With big letters too.
Problem is you changed your mind way too fast.
And that doesnt change you jumped on someone opinion asap.
Sorry not sorry you feel pressure.
I'm sorry but you can clearly see that I've put thought on it. Do you think I'm mafia or do you want me to be mafia? Because even when you realize that I've made the opposite of what you've thought, you till call me mafia for it.
Let's do this: explain to me why I, as mafia, am motivated to act like I did.
I don't want you to be mafia but I think you are mafia.
I am sorry not detective Glowing bear but I really think you are mafia .
But why do you avoid actually investigating the reasons you believe that, why do you refuse to post your thought process, your reasoning, and why do you ignore the list post I've asked you to address?
It's like you're actively not wanting to give information and it's frustrating because you're the cop claim I tend to believe the most.
I have gave my process, I think you are acting very opportunistic, I also think Shockey needs to be with someone more likely active on the thread and the person that fits the agenda to be with him is you.
Explain to me what opportunistic means. What did I do that is opportunistic?
Since players are RNGd, aren't you creating a perfect scum team and fitting people into it instead of interpreting people's behaviour without bias?
Why are you putting words on my mouth?
and I know it is rngd, and I am taking information for how Shockey is reacting, and the one that fits to be his partner the most is you.
Like, why instead of asking me the same things over and over again and making my process to look like not important you point me what have you done that is TOWN?
You're assuming Shockey would be more vocal if he was partned with someone who is a lurker, which is just WIFOM.
I am not one to judge if I am town and to start chasing posts that makes me town. Everything I post makes me town because that's where I'm coming from. I'm sorry but it's impossible for me to emphasize what makes me more town.
I keep asking the same things over and over because your answers are superficial and I want to get deeper in your thought process so I can figure you out better. That why I keep asking you to talk about the list post.
No I am not, I said Shockey claim came from a plan and the other person needs to be active, Shockey's activity has nothing to do with this, in fact Shockey has been very calm in this game.
On September 18 2020 17:01 Number 4 wrote: Like I understand why Damdred thinks Shockey’s claim looks better, I would put Monadel in this.
I already explained why we didnt cc inmediatly and I don’t feel to post that again, let it be what it is.
For those who had played mafia before here, you know shockey is a fluffy cutesy funny ball. Does he look bubbly? If Shockey was the cop he would be all “Lmaaaooooo i cant believe this game is soooo easy lmaoooo” posting fucking baby seals everywhere and having fun but here he is posting long boring posts that look they were typed by siri from iphone. No soul no nothing. Like even when he has been mafia before he hasnt been like this. Idk it makes me think he is being lectured.
And for those who don’t have the knowledge, I read people according to personality most likely and if they contradict what they tend to think.
- cop
If I was single and ready to mingle, this would of made me all happy inside. But since you're mafia, and I'm taken, I see past the façade.
~Doctor Seuss
On September 19 2020 02:05 Number 4 wrote:
On September 19 2020 02:00 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 19 2020 01:59 Number 4 wrote:
On September 19 2020 01:49 GlowingBear wrote: [quote]
I've said the doctor should save between the claims, not outside. Why would I suggest any of those possibilities as mafia here?
On September 18 2020 15:06 GlowingBear wrote: But anyway, Monadel is right. Doctor should save outside the cop claims. DOCTOR, YOU SHOULD SAVE OUTSIDE THE CLAIMS
I hope the doctor reads this.
Am I dumb or something?
There is another post right there where I take that back. With big letters too.
Problem is you changed your mind way too fast.
And that doesnt change you jumped on someone opinion asap.
Sorry not sorry you feel pressure.
I'm sorry but you can clearly see that I've put thought on it. Do you think I'm mafia or do you want me to be mafia? Because even when you realize that I've made the opposite of what you've thought, you till call me mafia for it.
Let's do this: explain to me why I, as mafia, am motivated to act like I did.
I don't want you to be mafia but I think you are mafia.
I am sorry not detective Glowing bear but I really think you are mafia .
But why do you avoid actually investigating the reasons you believe that, why do you refuse to post your thought process, your reasoning, and why do you ignore the list post I've asked you to address?
It's like you're actively not wanting to give information and it's frustrating because you're the cop claim I tend to believe the most.
I have gave my process, I think you are acting very opportunistic, I also think Shockey needs to be with someone more likely active on the thread and the person that fits the agenda to be with him is you.
Explain to me what opportunistic means. What did I do that is opportunistic?
Since players are RNGd, aren't you creating a perfect scum team and fitting people into it instead of interpreting people's behaviour without bias?
She is saying based on how the claim happened shockeyy needs to be mafia with someone who is active this game and that fits you. I don't really understand the thought process because everyone has been active and had a chance to talk about fakeclaiming except for possibly Vivax. Like between everyone else there is no difference in that matter, it doesn't matter if the other mafia person has posted 5 or 100 times.
Okay. Well, it makes sense for mafia Shockey to claim cop because he is mislynched frequently, so it's better to take the risk. But it doesn't mean he is paired with an over active player. Also, that doesn't make me opportunistic so yeah.
On September 19 2020 02:52 GlowingBear wrote: Am I shitting the thread? Please let me know if I'm shitting the thread. I think I'm posting a lot and I can try to post less if you want.
No it is ok, who called you shitting for posting a lot?
I read people's filters again and i think Monadel is also town. My reasoning is that first he said he believes shockeyys claim more. Later on he has said multiple times that both of the claims seem untrustworthy. I think, with confirmed fakeclaim here, that mafia has a plan to play the game out, obviously. I don't think Monadel would seem vary of BOTH of the claims in case he was mafia. I can understand him believing shockeyys claim over hydras, because he hasn't played with shockeyy. Yes, it looks more clean. But clean != town always in this situation. I don't think Monadel is playing towards any mafia plan basically, he seems like just being genuinely confused about the situation.
On September 19 2020 02:52 GlowingBear wrote: Am I shitting the thread? Please let me know if I'm shitting the thread. I think I'm posting a lot and I can try to post less if you want.
No it is ok, who called you shitting for posting a lot?
the thing is to solve the game :p
Sometimes I post too much and there are like pages with only "GlowingBear" posts.
On September 19 2020 03:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: I read people's filters again and i think Monadel is also town. My reasoning is that first he said he believes shockeyys claim more. Later on he has said multiple times that both of the claims seem untrustworthy. I think, with confirmed fakeclaim here, that mafia has a plan to play the game out, obviously. I don't think Monadel would seem vary of BOTH of the claims in case he was mafia. I can understand him believing shockeyys claim over hydras, because he hasn't played with shockeyy. Yes, it looks more clean. But clean != town always in this situation. I don't think Monadel is playing towards any mafia plan basically, he seems like just being genuinely confused about the situation.
We are on the same page here, too. I think his interest in my thought process and his caution to talk about it after the night ends were pretty genuine.
On September 19 2020 03:23 GlowingBear wrote: @Shockeyy, are you there? I would love to know your reads before the night ends.
Mafia Obviously Cop/Ever (Number 4)
Scum lean Monadel - due to his questioning of me yesterday, need more posts from him, but he's leaning more null for me.
Null Rayn - I switched him from town ready because he's easy to flip flop reads from the look of it especially after asking for Cop to claim, then randomly decides I'm mafia cause Damdred said he liked my claim more lol... Vivax - I'm still on the fence with Vivax, but he's leaning more town. I need to speak with him more.
Slight Town Damdred - I think he was generally interested in the game in the beginning. Idk what he's up to now. But I liked his posting when he was talking to Rayn.
On September 19 2020 03:23 GlowingBear wrote: @Shockeyy, are you there? I would love to know your reads before the night ends.
Mafia Obviously Cop/Ever (Number 4)
Scum lean Monadel - due to his questioning of me yesterday, need more posts from him, but he's leaning more null for me.
Null Rayn - I switched him from town ready because he's easy to flip flop reads from the look of it especially after asking for Cop to claim, then randomly decides I'm mafia cause Damdred said he liked my claim more lol... Vivax - I'm still on the fence with Vivax, but he's leaning more town. I need to speak with him more.
Slight Town Damdred - I think he was generally interested in the game in the beginning. Idk what he's up to now. But I liked his posting when he was talking to Rayn.
Town GB
Okay. If you had to make an associative read with CopCake/Ever, who would be their mafia partner and why?
Actually the better way to claim the checks is that when both claims are around someone puts a countdown timer and at exactly 0 seconds both hit post. That way mafia doesn't get advantage for sure.
On September 19 2020 03:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: Actually the better way to claim the checks is that when both claims are around someone puts a countdown timer and at exactly 0 seconds both hit post. That way mafia doesn't get advantage for sure.
On September 19 2020 03:57 Dadred wrote: I'm suspicious of you because you have been really clean and went along for the ride. I think your tone is town though so there is that
Since you have been here, or so it seems, what do you think of Rayn calling you mafia?
On September 19 2020 03:39 Number 4 wrote: Ok GB who is mafia according to you and everything that has happened?
Although I dislike a lot of things you've done here, I still believe you're probably town. Mostly gut feeling. I also think rayn is town, every time he posts he is thinking something similar to what I'm thinking. He also seems interested in solving the game, he is involved with the thread, etc. Monadel didn't post much but he seems townie too, especially his interaction with me when I've changed my opinion on who should be protected. He seems genuinely interested in my thought process while been cautious of how this could affect the game during n0.
Vivax is null, his appearance in thread is just nitpicking me and going back to lurking. Not sure if this makes him mafia. I would have to talk more with him.
Dadred is not really interested in the game, has been lurking, throw some random reads and go back to lurking. Plus he doesn't seem really interested in knowing who the cop really is. He basically throws "Shockey's claim seems more natural". (?). He also said cop should check me because I can carry the game (?). He doesn't even have confidence in who the cop is, why the cop check would make any difference at this point now?
Shockey is mafia because I believe more in your claim than in his.
Anyway, these will most likely be true if rayn is dead today. I'm the only person throwing suspicions at you so it would be better to let me live instead of rayn (if youre the real cop)
On September 19 2020 03:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: Actually the better way to claim the checks is that when both claims are around someone puts a countdown timer and at exactly 0 seconds both hit post. That way mafia doesn't get advantage for sure.
Do this please in case i die.
I am up to it, let's do it when BOTH of us are around, I don't want shockey to say suddenly ooppsss I got busy looking at a butterfly.
This is instant majority lynch - once a player hits 4 votes, the player is lynched and the day immediately ends. You can vote for a ##no-lynch. Maximum day length is 72 hours.
On September 19 2020 03:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: Actually the better way to claim the checks is that when both claims are around someone puts a countdown timer and at exactly 0 seconds both hit post. That way mafia doesn't get advantage for sure.
On September 19 2020 03:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: Actually the better way to claim the checks is that when both claims are around someone puts a countdown timer and at exactly 0 seconds both hit post. That way mafia doesn't get advantage for sure.
Like why as mafia would I kill rayn? If I was mafia, I seriously would of gone for Damdred after him posting he was doc before night ended... If anything mafia killing rayn would of been to frame me which ALWAYS happens.
On September 19 2020 04:05 GlowingBear wrote: Easy. ##vote:Shockeyy
Why me?
Because it's a bit obvious to be fair, Shockey. Unless I'm wrong. Which I'm not
Also, real doc, do not counter claim Damdred. Thanks.
How is it obvious?
I'm sorry if you're the real cop, but it doesn't look so. Your night check does not sum up with your gameplay, you are too logical and, besides the check, everything fits up just perfectly. Only a person with perfect information could come up with a flawless claim.
In the other hand, N4's play is clumsy and full of stuff that is really hard to replicate as mafia. Therefore, I believe the girls are town and, therefore, you have to be mafia.
Think about it GB I've played townie for idk how many games, and in every game I get voted off with awesome reads, and mafia is always trying to frame me because I'm always the easiest lynch target.
On September 19 2020 04:11 ShoCkeyy wrote: Like why as mafia would I kill rayn? If I was mafia, I seriously would of gone for Damdred after him posting he was doc before night ended... If anything mafia killing rayn would of been to frame me which ALWAYS happens.
He posted he was the doc 1 second before the EoN. And Damdred isn't the doctor, so yeah Mafia will not kill rayn to frame you, mafia will kill rayn because he was universally townread, drawing the right conclusions, and convincing town. In this situation, mafia will either bluehunt the doc or kill a threat. They will hardly WIFOM town with the kill.
On September 19 2020 04:05 GlowingBear wrote: Easy. ##vote:Shockeyy
Why me?
Because it's a bit obvious to be fair, Shockey. Unless I'm wrong. Which I'm not
Also, real doc, do not counter claim Damdred. Thanks.
How is it obvious?
I'm sorry if you're the real cop, but it doesn't look so. Your night check does not sum up with your gameplay, you are too logical and, besides the check, everything fits up just perfectly. Only a person with perfect information could come up with a flawless claim.
In the other hand, N4's play is clumsy and full of stuff that is really hard to replicate as mafia. Therefore, I believe the girls are town and, therefore, you have to be mafia.
That or they're having an awesome game being a hydra... easily manipulating, and they already slipped multiple times that they were scum.
On September 19 2020 04:13 ShoCkeyy wrote: Think about it GB I've played townie for idk how many games, and in every game I get voted off with awesome reads, and mafia is always trying to frame me because I'm always the easiest lynch target.
The problem also is that you came exactly, EXACTLY to post Oh I checked Rayn oooppsss.
You have to realize that Rayn's game has been pretty townie, like there is no flaws in him proposing the whole "Cop should claim etc" and you believing Dadmred claim, idk, "why wouldn't I kill dadred if I was mafia because he claimed doc, because Obviously, he is the other mafia, mafia should kill the doc asap so no one protects the real cop the next night.
On September 19 2020 04:13 ShoCkeyy wrote: Think about it GB I've played townie for idk how many games, and in every game I get voted off with awesome reads, and mafia is always trying to frame me because I'm always the easiest lynch target.
It's true. I've done it myself. But this is also a good place to be when you're mafia, right? "Hey I'm always mislynched, and here I am being mislynched again".
I've played a lot with you and I have to say it feels different this time. And I have all the other arguments pointing you as mafia. So sorry, Shockey, I don't think there's anything you can do to convince me :/
I'm going to go get hammered before the next lockdown.
While there are some serious blunders in Nr. 4s claim (like saying I'm green, or not being sure that Shockeyy is mafia), I don't think that necessarily makes them mafia in the context of being less used to writing, but especially I don't think they would be the one to take up the burden of fakeclaiming unless their teammate is even more derpy (that could have been GB given how he seems to flip opinion to the polar opposite every few posts)
In that regard, if we lynch a cop today I'm going to lynch Shockeyy.
100% am doctor I will call you bad forever if you doubt it.
I was always here lurking and did enough to try to stay out of the line of thought.
Sadly I can only protect the same person twice though, so only got one more protect on cop.
Also it's better if someone counter claims me today, that way the cop can check me while I still have one charge left on them and mafia is forced to kill me
On September 19 2020 04:11 ShoCkeyy wrote: Like why as mafia would I kill rayn? If I was mafia, I seriously would of gone for Damdred after him posting he was doc before night ended... If anything mafia killing rayn would of been to frame me which ALWAYS happens.
He posted he was the doc 1 second before the EoN. And Damdred isn't the doctor, so yeah Mafia will not kill rayn to frame you, mafia will kill rayn because he was universally townread, drawing the right conclusions, and convincing town. In this situation, mafia will either bluehunt the doc or kill a threat. They will hardly WIFOM town with the kill.
Sorry Shockey, won't happen :/
So if you're saying damdred isn't doctor, meaning damdred is fake claiming?
Though I'm surprised that Shockeyy if mafia wouldn't just fakeclaim a red check here, or a greencheck on an alive townie. Either way, we got some time to think about it and actually since it's IML which I briefly forgot there I'd like to pull more information from the day before simply hammering.
On September 19 2020 04:17 Vivax wrote: I'm going to go get hammered before the next lockdown.
While there are some serious blunders in Nr. 4s claim (like saying I'm green, or not being sure that Shockeyy is mafia), I don't think that necessarily makes them mafia in the context of being less used to writing, but especially I don't think they would be the one to take up the burden of fakeclaiming unless their teammate is even more derpy (that could have been GB given how he seems to flip opinion to the polar opposite every few posts)
In that regard, if we lynch a cop today I'm going to lynch Shockeyy.
On September 19 2020 04:18 Dadred wrote: 100% am doctor I will call you bad forever if you doubt it.
I was always here lurking and did enough to try to stay out of the line of thought.
Sadly I can only protect the same person twice though, so only got one more protect on cop.
Also it's better if someone counter claims me today, that way the cop can check me while I still have one charge left on them and mafia is forced to kill me
I honestly think GB is trying to counter claim you. His post sounds like HE KNOWS you're not the doctor... but then you say you are.
On September 19 2020 04:18 Dadred wrote: 100% am doctor I will call you bad forever if you doubt it.
I was always here lurking and did enough to try to stay out of the line of thought.
Sadly I can only protect the same person twice though, so only got one more protect on cop.
Also it's better if someone counter claims me today, that way the cop can check me while I still have one charge left on them and mafia is forced to kill me
Nah, we don't need a counterclaim. You're not on the chopping block today. If you're not the last mafia, Vivax is.
On September 19 2020 04:13 ShoCkeyy wrote: Think about it GB I've played townie for idk how many games, and in every game I get voted off with awesome reads, and mafia is always trying to frame me because I'm always the easiest lynch target.
The problem also is that you came exactly, EXACTLY to post Oh I checked Rayn oooppsss.
You have to realize that Rayn's game has been pretty townie, like there is no flaws in him proposing the whole "Cop should claim etc" and you believing Dadmred claim, idk, "why wouldn't I kill dadred if I was mafia because he claimed doc, because Obviously, he is the other mafia, mafia should kill the doc asap so no one protects the real cop the next night.
Meh, I'm mostly skipping over your posts btw since I already know you're mafia, and spouting what ever you need to win.
On September 19 2020 04:19 Vivax wrote: Though I'm surprised that Shockeyy if mafia wouldn't just fakeclaim a red check here, or a greencheck on an alive townie. Either way, we got some time to think about it and actually since it's IML which I briefly forgot there I'd like to pull more information from the day before simply hammering.
On September 19 2020 04:13 ShoCkeyy wrote: Think about it GB I've played townie for idk how many games, and in every game I get voted off with awesome reads, and mafia is always trying to frame me because I'm always the easiest lynch target.
The problem also is that you came exactly, EXACTLY to post Oh I checked Rayn oooppsss.
You have to realize that Rayn's game has been pretty townie, like there is no flaws in him proposing the whole "Cop should claim etc" and you believing Dadmred claim, idk, "why wouldn't I kill dadred if I was mafia because he claimed doc, because Obviously, he is the other mafia, mafia should kill the doc asap so no one protects the real cop the next night.
Meh, I'm mostly skipping over your posts btw since I already know you're mafia, and spouting what ever you need to win.
Ignore me all you want, btw whoever told you to fake claim is very mean, very very mean.
Unless you decided to just go with it to have fun.
Gotta love when mafia tries to pressure other town to voting off a town. It's hilarious. Both mafia are jumping at the opportunity of kill me off for an easy mafia win. I'm not going down that easy.
On September 19 2020 04:27 ShoCkeyy wrote: Gotta love when mafia tries to pressure other town to voting off a town. It's hilarious. Both mafia are jumping at the opportunity of kill me off for an easy mafia win. I'm not going down that easy.
No mafia would do that. This is the time they try to distance themselves
On September 19 2020 04:27 ShoCkeyy wrote: Gotta love when mafia tries to pressure other town to voting off a town. It's hilarious. Both mafia are jumping at the opportunity of kill me off for an easy mafia win. I'm not going down that easy.
No mafia would do that. This is the time they try to distance themselves
"no mafia would do that" mafia does what ever it needs to do for a win, and you out of all people know that.
On September 19 2020 04:27 ShoCkeyy wrote: Gotta love when mafia tries to pressure other town to voting off a town. It's hilarious. Both mafia are jumping at the opportunity of kill me off for an easy mafia win. I'm not going down that easy.
No mafia would do that. This is the time they try to distance themselves
"no mafia would do that" mafia does what ever it needs to do for a win, and you out of all people know that.
No mafia out themselves like this, Shockey. If you flip cop they are screwed.
On September 19 2020 04:27 ShoCkeyy wrote: Gotta love when mafia tries to pressure other town to voting off a town. It's hilarious. Both mafia are jumping at the opportunity of kill me off for an easy mafia win. I'm not going down that easy.
No mafia would do that. This is the time they try to distance themselves
"no mafia would do that" mafia does what ever it needs to do for a win, and you out of all people know that.
No mafia out themselves like this, Shockey. If you flip cop they are screwed.
I've voted my scumpartner at mylo and almost got him lynched just for the sake of distancing.
#1) Distancing yourself, I was wifoming myself between saving rayn and you most of the day. I tried to out a bit of doubt into the thread about rayn so that he wouldn't be the optimual kill. But eh I didn't want to really push something I didn't believe.
We are in Mylo now, the optimum play for scum is to claim doctor early in d1 to confuse town and pressure town into hasty decisions. Which is the opposite of what we need in Mylo and in instant majority. I also claimed early in case I got shot by scum randoming into the crowd and wanted my save to be documented
I also was throwing light doubt on your claim, but I did near wod saybi liked how you were playing the game which confirmed my decision.
It was a gamble that I needed to be more active to do tbh
I really don't like how you guys are pushing and threatening town to end today and potentially the gamey though. It's really anti-town and horrendous play.
And if you and gb are town you should know better.
On September 19 2020 04:36 Dadred wrote: #1) Distancing yourself, I was wifoming myself between saving rayn and you most of the day. I tried to out a bit of doubt into the thread about rayn so that he wouldn't be the optimual kill. But eh I didn't want to really push something I didn't believe.
We are in Mylo now, the optimum play for scum is to claim doctor early in d1 to confuse town and pressure town into hasty decisions. Which is the opposite of what we need in Mylo and in instant majority. I also claimed early in case I got shot by scum randoming into the crowd and wanted my save to be documented
I also was throwing light doubt on your claim, but I did near wod saybi liked how you were playing the game which confirmed my decision.
It was a gamble that I needed to be more active to do tbh
Uhm, I don't trust you damdy, but it really doesn't matter atm.
On September 19 2020 04:38 Dadred wrote: I really don't like how you guys are pushing and threatening town to end today and potentially the gamey though. It's really anti-town and horrendous play.
And if you and gb are town you should know better.
Shockeyy I thought you had a TR on rayn?
Obviously I am going to push because WE are the fucking cop, that is the most logical thing.
If shockey was the cop he would do the same but he hasn't posted a ##copcake EVER
On September 19 2020 04:38 Dadred wrote: I really don't like how you guys are pushing and threatening town to end today and potentially the gamey though. It's really anti-town and horrendous play.
And if you and gb are town you should know better.
Shockeyy I thought you had a TR on rayn?
I did yesterday, but as I mentioned, his flip flop on me after you posted about my claim is what had me question him. So my TR on him went to Null as I posted earlier.
On September 19 2020 04:37 Number 4 wrote: GB in one game, when we were both mafia together he got me lynched to win town cred, I got so angry at him I had a huge vendetta on him.
I remember! <3 Hahahahaha
On September 19 2020 04:38 Dadred wrote: I really don't like how you guys are pushing and threatening town to end today and potentially the gamey though. It's really anti-town and horrendous play.
And if you and gb are town you should know better.
Shockeyy I thought you had a TR on rayn?
You can't blame the real cop to be sure that the fakeclaimer is mafia. And I've played n0 too much to keep talking about stuff I'm already convinced.
On September 19 2020 04:07 Number 4 wrote: Gb is town, I am so sorry Detective GB.
Also fuck it Shockey you didn't follow Rayn's plan.
and
On September 19 2020 04:24 Number 4 wrote: At least now I can say for sure that GB is town, to think I send to check Damred and then changed back to GB :p
On September 19 2020 04:43 ShoCkeyy wrote: Number 4 says they're cop, yet they haven't even posted who they checked... Just instantly "VOTE SHOCKEYY".
Like, Damdred, if you're town, read how Shockey's focus is to throw suspicions on copcake instead investigating every and each other player to sort things out. He even said n0 that he was not really busy trying to figure things out because he had the power of checking people and he could do that after n0.
This is not a person trying to win the game, this is a person throwing suspicions in order to keep him alive, only.
On September 19 2020 04:43 ShoCkeyy wrote: Number 4 says they're cop, yet they haven't even posted who they checked... Just instantly "VOTE SHOCKEYY".
Like, Damdred, if you're town, read how Shockey's focus is to throw suspicions on copcake instead investigating every and each other player to sort things out. He even said n0 that he was not really busy trying to figure things out because he had the power of checking people and he could do that after n0.
This is not a person trying to win the game, this is a person throwing suspicions in order to keep him alive, only.
How am I throwing suspicion? I'm focusing Number 4 because they counter claimed me... and now are pushing to vote me off w.o even "checking" me LOL
On September 19 2020 04:45 Dadred wrote: While it's understandable it's anti-town to try to end the day not even after 40 minutes no matter what alignment zzz.
I will post my rolepm IDC I am your town doctor get use to it.
Ok you are my doctor, and if there are any doctors I don't want to know. Okay, doctors? You can keep talking about stuff but nothing here will convince neither me or cake that someone else should be lynched. I have nothing else to discuss so this is only be a longer and more boring day
On September 19 2020 04:43 ShoCkeyy wrote: Number 4 says they're cop, yet they haven't even posted who they checked... Just instantly "VOTE SHOCKEYY".
Like, Damdred, if you're town, read how Shockey's focus is to throw suspicions on copcake instead investigating every and each other player to sort things out. He even said n0 that he was not really busy trying to figure things out because he had the power of checking people and he could do that after n0.
This is not a person trying to win the game, this is a person throwing suspicions in order to keep him alive, only.
How am I throwing suspicion? I'm focusing Number 4 because they counter claimed me... and now are pushing to vote me off w.o even "checking" me LOL
Why the fuck would I check you if I know I am the cop and you are lying?
On September 19 2020 04:43 ShoCkeyy wrote: Number 4 says they're cop, yet they haven't even posted who they checked... Just instantly "VOTE SHOCKEYY".
Like, Damdred, if you're town, read how Shockey's focus is to throw suspicions on copcake instead investigating every and each other player to sort things out. He even said n0 that he was not really busy trying to figure things out because he had the power of checking people and he could do that after n0.
This is not a person trying to win the game, this is a person throwing suspicions in order to keep him alive, only.
How am I throwing suspicion? I'm focusing Number 4 because they counter claimed me... and now are pushing to vote me off w.o even "checking" me LOL
Why the fuck would I check you if I know I am the cop and you are lying?
On September 19 2020 04:45 Dadred wrote: While it's understandable it's anti-town to try to end the day not even after 40 minutes no matter what alignment zzz.
I will post my rolepm IDC I am your town doctor get use to it.
Ok you are my doctor, and if there are any doctors I don't want to know. Okay, doctors? You can keep talking about stuff but nothing here will convince neither me or cake that someone else should be lynched. I have nothing else to discuss so this is only be a longer and more boring day
You really seemed earlier that you wanted to claim doctor or counter claim doctor...
On September 19 2020 04:43 ShoCkeyy wrote: Number 4 says they're cop, yet they haven't even posted who they checked... Just instantly "VOTE SHOCKEYY".
Like, Damdred, if you're town, read how Shockey's focus is to throw suspicions on copcake instead investigating every and each other player to sort things out. He even said n0 that he was not really busy trying to figure things out because he had the power of checking people and he could do that after n0.
This is not a person trying to win the game, this is a person throwing suspicions in order to keep him alive, only.
How am I throwing suspicion? I'm focusing Number 4 because they counter claimed me... and now are pushing to vote me off w.o even "checking" me LOL
Shockey, you're only posting to push her or when you're "summoned". I didn't see you following the thread and commenting on stuff by your on "impetus".
Anyway, I'm sorry if you're town, but I'm very sure you're mafia.
On September 19 2020 04:45 Dadred wrote: While it's understandable it's anti-town to try to end the day not even after 40 minutes no matter what alignment zzz.
I will post my rolepm IDC I am your town doctor get use to it.
Ok you are my doctor, and if there are any doctors I don't want to know. Okay, doctors? You can keep talking about stuff but nothing here will convince neither me or cake that someone else should be lynched. I have nothing else to discuss so this is only be a longer and more boring day
You really seemed earlier that you wanted to claim doctor or counter claim doctor...
I'm just saying I'm positive Damdred isn't the doctor. But I'll admit he is for now.
On September 19 2020 04:43 ShoCkeyy wrote: Number 4 says they're cop, yet they haven't even posted who they checked... Just instantly "VOTE SHOCKEYY".
Like, Damdred, if you're town, read how Shockey's focus is to throw suspicions on copcake instead investigating every and each other player to sort things out. He even said n0 that he was not really busy trying to figure things out because he had the power of checking people and he could do that after n0.
This is not a person trying to win the game, this is a person throwing suspicions in order to keep him alive, only.
How am I throwing suspicion? I'm focusing Number 4 because they counter claimed me... and now are pushing to vote me off w.o even "checking" me LOL
Shockey, you're only posting to push her or when you're "summoned". I didn't see you following the thread and commenting on stuff by your on "impetus".
Anyway, I'm sorry if you're town, but I'm very sure you're mafia.
g2g now or I'll be fired lol.
Wow the lies coming from mafia are just /facepalm.
On September 19 2020 04:43 ShoCkeyy wrote: Number 4 says they're cop, yet they haven't even posted who they checked... Just instantly "VOTE SHOCKEYY".
Like, Damdred, if you're town, read how Shockey's focus is to throw suspicions on copcake instead investigating every and each other player to sort things out. He even said n0 that he was not really busy trying to figure things out because he had the power of checking people and he could do that after n0.
This is not a person trying to win the game, this is a person throwing suspicions in order to keep him alive, only.
How am I throwing suspicion? I'm focusing Number 4 because they counter claimed me... and now are pushing to vote me off w.o even "checking" me LOL
Why the fuck would I check you if I know I am the cop and you are lying?
Why are you stealing my lines from N0?
"The cop should check the person that c/c the cop" Shockey, 2020.
On September 19 2020 04:54 ShoCkeyy wrote: I literally can picture GB and Number 4's QT
"Don't kill shockeyy N0, he's a easy push for D1"
Why would myself and N4, as mafia, decide to kill you, just to see you flipping cop, and have her lynched right after?
ROFL
That's even why I asked the doctor to not save inside the claims, because mafia would shoot outside it to kill the doctor and that if they even decide to shoot the real cop, we have a confirmed mafia on the other side. It's basically a win-win.
But then I realized that if we lose the cop, we are a bit screwed later on.
On September 19 2020 04:43 ShoCkeyy wrote: Number 4 says they're cop, yet they haven't even posted who they checked... Just instantly "VOTE SHOCKEYY".
Like, Damdred, if you're town, read how Shockey's focus is to throw suspicions on copcake instead investigating every and each other player to sort things out. He even said n0 that he was not really busy trying to figure things out because he had the power of checking people and he could do that after n0.
This is not a person trying to win the game, this is a person throwing suspicions in order to keep him alive, only.
How am I throwing suspicion? I'm focusing Number 4 because they counter claimed me... and now are pushing to vote me off w.o even "checking" me LOL
Why the fuck would I check you if I know I am the cop and you are lying?
Why are you stealing my lines from N0?
"The cop should check the person that c/c the cop" Shockey, 2020.
Please post where I said this. If anything I know I said I was checking outside of you counter claiming me because I know you're mafia.
On September 19 2020 04:43 ShoCkeyy wrote: Number 4 says they're cop, yet they haven't even posted who they checked... Just instantly "VOTE SHOCKEYY".
Like, Damdred, if you're town, read how Shockey's focus is to throw suspicions on copcake instead investigating every and each other player to sort things out. He even said n0 that he was not really busy trying to figure things out because he had the power of checking people and he could do that after n0.
This is not a person trying to win the game, this is a person throwing suspicions in order to keep him alive, only.
How am I throwing suspicion? I'm focusing Number 4 because they counter claimed me... and now are pushing to vote me off w.o even "checking" me LOL
On September 19 2020 04:54 ShoCkeyy wrote: I literally can picture GB and Number 4's QT
"Don't kill shockeyy N0, he's a easy push for D1"
Why would myself and N4, as mafia, decide to kill you, just to see you flipping cop, and have her lynched right after?
ROFL
That's even why I asked the doctor to not save inside the claims, because mafia would shoot outside it to kill the doctor and that if they even decide to shoot the real cop, we have a confirmed mafia on the other side. It's basically a win-win.
But then I realized that if we lose the cop, we are a bit screwed later on.
Cause you're mafia, and she's willing to die late game to win. It's not hard math.
I die today, that's -1 town, leaving three town, and two mafia.
Mafia kills one more town at night, and that's essentially BG.
On September 19 2020 04:43 ShoCkeyy wrote: Number 4 says they're cop, yet they haven't even posted who they checked... Just instantly "VOTE SHOCKEYY".
Like, Damdred, if you're town, read how Shockey's focus is to throw suspicions on copcake instead investigating every and each other player to sort things out. He even said n0 that he was not really busy trying to figure things out because he had the power of checking people and he could do that after n0.
This is not a person trying to win the game, this is a person throwing suspicions in order to keep him alive, only.
How am I throwing suspicion? I'm focusing Number 4 because they counter claimed me... and now are pushing to vote me off w.o even "checking" me LOL
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No I'm talking about N0. You're literally jocking me.
On September 19 2020 04:43 ShoCkeyy wrote: Number 4 says they're cop, yet they haven't even posted who they checked... Just instantly "VOTE SHOCKEYY".
Like, Damdred, if you're town, read how Shockey's focus is to throw suspicions on copcake instead investigating every and each other player to sort things out. He even said n0 that he was not really busy trying to figure things out because he had the power of checking people and he could do that after n0.
This is not a person trying to win the game, this is a person throwing suspicions in order to keep him alive, only.
How am I throwing suspicion? I'm focusing Number 4 because they counter claimed me... and now are pushing to vote me off w.o even "checking" me LOL
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No I'm talking about N0. You're literally jocking me.
But you are saying that the cop should check the cc of the same role.
Cop would never ever check the cc of a cop.
And last night was night 0 and checked GB, why would I waste my ability to you if I know you are mafia? This way at least town has one more clear.
On September 19 2020 04:43 ShoCkeyy wrote: Number 4 says they're cop, yet they haven't even posted who they checked... Just instantly "VOTE SHOCKEYY".
Like, Damdred, if you're town, read how Shockey's focus is to throw suspicions on copcake instead investigating every and each other player to sort things out. He even said n0 that he was not really busy trying to figure things out because he had the power of checking people and he could do that after n0.
This is not a person trying to win the game, this is a person throwing suspicions in order to keep him alive, only.
How am I throwing suspicion? I'm focusing Number 4 because they counter claimed me... and now are pushing to vote me off w.o even "checking" me LOL
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No I'm talking about N0. You're literally jocking me.
But you are saying that the cop should check the cc of the same role.
Cop would never ever check the cc of a cop.
And last night was night 0 and checked GB, why would I waste my ability to you if I know you are mafia? This way at least town has one more clear.
I think you mafia slipped there.
I think you slipped, because you're trying to say shit I never said.
On September 18 2020 06:59 Number 4 wrote: Rayn if you let us get flipped please clean house.
Shock your claims about as sturdy as wet noodles. I can back mine up. You cant, I know this. So you pushing it means me or you.
I absolutely can back mine up 200% more than you can. I got the role pm to prove it, and will have a check for D1 outside of you. You on the other hand will immediately post that you checked me, and that I'm mafia. I already see your play 100 miles away.
Like I literally posted multiple times I was never going to check my counter claim since it's a waste of a check.
On September 19 2020 04:43 ShoCkeyy wrote: Number 4 says they're cop, yet they haven't even posted who they checked... Just instantly "VOTE SHOCKEYY".
Like, Damdred, if you're town, read how Shockey's focus is to throw suspicions on copcake instead investigating every and each other player to sort things out. He even said n0 that he was not really busy trying to figure things out because he had the power of checking people and he could do that after n0.
This is not a person trying to win the game, this is a person throwing suspicions in order to keep him alive, only.
How am I throwing suspicion? I'm focusing Number 4 because they counter claimed me... and now are pushing to vote me off w.o even "checking" me LOL
On September 19 2020 05:44 Monadel wrote: Hi schockey
Why did you check rayn
On September 19 2020 03:45 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Null Rayn - I switched him from town ready because he's easy to flip flop reads from the look of it especially after asking for Cop to claim, then randomly decides I'm mafia cause Damdred said he liked my claim more lol...
Brb gotta go buy the pregnant wife food before she kills me IRL.
Null Rayn - I switched him from town ready because he's easy to flip flop reads from the look of it especially after asking for Cop to claim, then randomly decides I'm mafia cause Damdred said he liked my claim more lol...
Brb gotta go buy the pregnant wife food before she kills me IRL.
We've already talked about this, he didn't think you were mafia because Damdy "protected" you. Having rayn as town and downgrading it to null and having him checked is a bit... awkward.
@Monadel, I would love to hear your thoughts on the remaining players, please.
Damdy, here is what I don't understand. You've mostly lurked day1 because you wanted to avoid being shot at night, apparently. Then you hardclaim cop while saying we should take our time to discuss things. It's day1 already and I still don't know what you think of interactions n0 and I have yet to see you getting involved in the game. Could you please give your opinon on each of the remaining players?
On September 19 2020 06:50 Number 4 wrote: I think is better for town to focus this night which cop is “the best” or the “real” cop and decide who is the other mafia after the flip.
I think we have enough information and it's arguably productive to milk it even more.
What town should do on the other hand is trying to find the second mafia WITHOUT making associative reads.
On September 19 2020 06:50 Number 4 wrote: I think is better for town to focus this night which cop is “the best” or the “real” cop and decide who is the other mafia after the flip.
I think we have enough information and it's arguably productive to milk it even more.
What town should do on the other hand is trying to find the second mafia WITHOUT making associative reads.
I get why you say this but if we end up lynching shockey working out who the second mafia is is irrelevant because power roles solve the game.
Id prefer to continue to discuss who we are lynching between the two cop claim.
Can both cop claims go into as much detail ad they can on how they chose their checks?
On September 19 2020 06:50 Number 4 wrote: I think is better for town to focus this night which cop is “the best” or the “real” cop and decide who is the other mafia after the flip.
I think we have enough information and it's arguably productive to milk it even more.
What town should do on the other hand is trying to find the second mafia WITHOUT making associative reads.
I get why you say this but if we end up lynching shockey working out who the second mafia is is irrelevant because power roles solve the game.
Id prefer to continue to discuss who we are lynching between the two cop claim.
Can both cop claims go into as much detail ad they can on how they chose their checks?
Let me think about this. If we lynch correctly today:
N1 4v1, 2 confirmed townies D2 3v1, probably 2 confirmed townies with another check. If we mislynch, then: N2 2v1, GG.
So not really, the cop is very important but won’t determine our win.
If we Lynch shock today we check again tonight. Doc can't save again to my knowledge. I'll read op again.. GB is clear. Leaves us with few options. I'm trust institution on this one..
On September 19 2020 10:22 Monadel wrote: Is there a benefit to fake claiming a check on a dead person over an alive person that im not realising?
So first I didn’t fake claim. You can basically ask the same question with Number 4 claiming their team mate is town. The benefit on my end for checking Rayn is meta based on his last mafia game. He played the first day so hard then afked after cause he was town read by everyone. The same thing here, he’s basically town read by everyone, so it’s easy to check against that for me. It’s also basically trauma for that game.
On September 19 2020 06:24 Monadel wrote: if shockey is mafia then vivax is his partner
I’m not mafia, the town is my partner. Notice how it’s only two people that are constantly against me. Rayn was at least trying to speak to me. GB basically said he would always think I’m mafia. That’s not town mentality.
On September 19 2020 06:50 Number 4 wrote: I think is better for town to focus this night which cop is “the best” or the “real” cop and decide who is the other mafia after the flip.
I think we have enough information and it's arguably productive to milk it even more.
What town should do on the other hand is trying to find the second mafia WITHOUT making associative reads.
I get why you say this but if we end up lynching shockey working out who the second mafia is is irrelevant because power roles solve the game.
Id prefer to continue to discuss who we are lynching between the two cop claim.
Can both cop claims go into as much detail ad they can on how they chose their checks?
Let me think about this. If we lynch correctly today:
N1 4v1, 2 confirmed townies D2 3v1, probably 2 confirmed townies with another check. If we mislynch, then: N2 2v1, GG.
So not really, the cop is very important but won’t determine our win.
This is wrong it would be 3 confirmed towns the cop and his 2 checks (this only works if shockey is fakeclaim)
On September 19 2020 10:22 Monadel wrote: Is there a benefit to fake claiming a check on a dead person over an alive person that im not realising?
So first I didn’t fake claim. You can basically ask the same question with Number 4 claiming their team mate is town. The benefit on my end for checking Rayn is meta based on his last mafia game. He played the first day so hard then afked after cause he was town read by everyone. The same thing here, he’s basically town read by everyone, so it’s easy to check against that for me. It’s also basically trauma for that game.
Oh right you know rayn better than me. I about laughed up my noodles.
On September 19 2020 06:50 Number 4 wrote: I think is better for town to focus this night which cop is “the best” or the “real” cop and decide who is the other mafia after the flip.
I think we have enough information and it's arguably productive to milk it even more.
What town should do on the other hand is trying to find the second mafia WITHOUT making associative reads.
I get why you say this but if we end up lynching shockey working out who the second mafia is is irrelevant because power roles solve the game.
Id prefer to continue to discuss who we are lynching between the two cop claim.
Can both cop claims go into as much detail ad they can on how they chose their checks?
Let me think about this. If we lynch correctly today:
N1 4v1, 2 confirmed townies D2 3v1, probably 2 confirmed townies with another check. If we mislynch, then: N2 2v1, GG.
So not really, the cop is very important but won’t determine our win.
This is wrong it would be 3 confirmed towns the cop and his 2 checks (this only works if shockey is fakeclaim)
No... We had one check. That makes 3 if doctor claims. Which I think is silly.
On September 19 2020 11:51 Monadel wrote: shockey if GB wasn't an option who do you think is the second mafia
This depends if no one counter claims damdred. There’s still time, there’s a possibility you may also be the doctor but don’t want to claim yet. But seeing no one has so far, ill leave damdred out, and would essentially leave you and Vivax. Vivax is known to afk as of late as town and mafia so he’s just a hard read in this current climate, which left you. But as of lately I feel that you’re asking the right questions. I definitely think at this point you’re more townie than Vivax unless vivax can show me he’s town. So if it wasn’t GB, it’s possibly Vivax.
However I’m headstrong right now the two mafia players are GB and Number 4 since they’re really gunning for me to be voted out instantly. No sane town is that quick to vote. I like using my time to solve things. Time is of the essence, I don’t like throwing it away unlike GB and Number 4, which has been very anti town.
On September 19 2020 11:51 Monadel wrote: shockey if GB wasn't an option who do you think is the second mafia
This depends if no one counter claims damdred. There’s still time, there’s a possibility you may also be the doctor but don’t want to claim yet. But seeing no one has so far, ill leave damdred out, and would essentially leave you and Vivax. Vivax is known to afk as of late as town and mafia so he’s just a hard read in this current climate, which left you. But as of lately I feel that you’re asking the right questions. I definitely think at this point you’re more townie than Vivax unless vivax can show me he’s town. So if it wasn’t GB, it’s possibly Vivax.
However I’m headstrong right now the two mafia players are GB and Number 4 since they’re really gunning for me to be voted out instantly. No sane town is that quick to vote. I like using my time to solve things. Time is of the essence, I don’t like throwing it away unlike GB and Number 4, which has been very anti town.
On September 19 2020 11:51 Monadel wrote: shockey if GB wasn't an option who do you think is the second mafia
This depends if no one counter claims damdred. There’s still time, there’s a possibility you may also be the doctor but don’t want to claim yet. But seeing no one has so far, ill leave damdred out, and would essentially leave you and Vivax. Vivax is known to afk as of late as town and mafia so he’s just a hard read in this current climate, which left you. But as of lately I feel that you’re asking the right questions. I definitely think at this point you’re more townie than Vivax unless vivax can show me he’s town. So if it wasn’t GB, it’s possibly Vivax.
However I’m headstrong right now the two mafia players are GB and Number 4 since they’re really gunning for me to be voted out instantly. No sane town is that quick to vote. I like using my time to solve things. Time is of the essence, I don’t like throwing it away unlike GB and Number 4, which has been very anti town.
On September 19 2020 06:50 Number 4 wrote: I think is better for town to focus this night which cop is “the best” or the “real” cop and decide who is the other mafia after the flip.
I think we have enough information and it's arguably productive to milk it even more.
What town should do on the other hand is trying to find the second mafia WITHOUT making associative reads.
I get why you say this but if we end up lynching shockey working out who the second mafia is is irrelevant because power roles solve the game.
Id prefer to continue to discuss who we are lynching between the two cop claim.
Can both cop claims go into as much detail ad they can on how they chose their checks?
Let me think about this. If we lynch correctly today:
N1 4v1, 2 confirmed townies D2 3v1, probably 2 confirmed townies with another check. If we mislynch, then: N2 2v1, GG.
So not really, the cop is very important but won’t determine our win.
This is wrong it would be 3 confirmed towns the cop and his 2 checks (this only works if shockey is fakeclaim)
No... We had one check. That makes 3 if doctor claims. Which I think is silly.
I dont really follow you. There is 6 people left.
If we were to lynch shockey and then there is a NK there is 4 people left. It will be 3 town and 1 mafia in the number 4 is town cop world
Currently in that world there is two confirmed towns yourself and GB. Who should both survive the night because they will be killing the docter dadred.
That leaves myself and vivax and you will have a check on one of us. Which means the game is solved
On September 19 2020 06:50 Number 4 wrote: I think is better for town to focus this night which cop is “the best” or the “real” cop and decide who is the other mafia after the flip.
I think we have enough information and it's arguably productive to milk it even more.
What town should do on the other hand is trying to find the second mafia WITHOUT making associative reads.
I get why you say this but if we end up lynching shockey working out who the second mafia is is irrelevant because power roles solve the game.
Id prefer to continue to discuss who we are lynching between the two cop claim.
Can both cop claims go into as much detail ad they can on how they chose their checks?
Let me think about this. If we lynch correctly today:
N1 4v1, 2 confirmed townies D2 3v1, probably 2 confirmed townies with another check. If we mislynch, then: N2 2v1, GG.
So not really, the cop is very important but won’t determine our win.
This is wrong it would be 3 confirmed towns the cop and his 2 checks (this only works if shockey is fakeclaim)
No... We had one check. That makes 3 if doctor claims. Which I think is silly.
I dont really follow you. There is 6 people left.
If we were to lynch shockey and then there is a NK there is 4 people left. It will be 3 town and 1 mafia in the number 4 is town cop world
Currently in that world there is two confirmed towns yourself and GB. Who should both survive the night because they will be killing the docter dadred.
That leaves myself and vivax and you will have a check on one of us. Which means the game is solved
basically if we decide to lynch shockey if vivax is going to CC dadred he has to be forced to do it or forever hold his peace because then you just swap me and dadred in the above scenario.
On September 19 2020 06:50 Number 4 wrote: I think is better for town to focus this night which cop is “the best” or the “real” cop and decide who is the other mafia after the flip.
I think we have enough information and it's arguably productive to milk it even more.
What town should do on the other hand is trying to find the second mafia WITHOUT making associative reads.
I get why you say this but if we end up lynching shockey working out who the second mafia is is irrelevant because power roles solve the game.
Id prefer to continue to discuss who we are lynching between the two cop claim.
Can both cop claims go into as much detail ad they can on how they chose their checks?
Let me think about this. If we lynch correctly today:
N1 4v1, 2 confirmed townies D2 3v1, probably 2 confirmed townies with another check. If we mislynch, then: N2 2v1, GG.
So not really, the cop is very important but won’t determine our win.
This is wrong it would be 3 confirmed towns the cop and his 2 checks (this only works if shockey is fakeclaim)
No... We had one check. That makes 3 if doctor claims. Which I think is silly.
I dont really follow you. There is 6 people left.
If we were to lynch shockey and then there is a NK there is 4 people left. It will be 3 town and 1 mafia in the number 4 is town cop world
Currently in that world there is two confirmed towns yourself and GB. Who should both survive the night because they will be killing the docter dadred.
That leaves myself and vivax and you will have a check on one of us. Which means the game is solved
That leaves
It's day.
Yah
D1 4 v 2 N0 4 v 1 D2 3 v 1 by this stage you have yourself GB and 1 more check which is 3 confirmed in your eyes.
iday.if vivax doesn't step up tomorrow ok. Vivax always has weak d1. Which I'm not sleeping on because we started n0. He's said not much I don't agree with. Until he does hum...
On September 19 2020 12:35 Monadel wrote: I mean n1 not n0 sorry
Monadel think of it this way, N4 and GB are both willing to vote you out if necessary. I’m typically always on the chopping block in every game we play together, and they’re using that to the advantage of the game to kill a blue during D1.
On September 19 2020 06:50 Number 4 wrote: I think is better for town to focus this night which cop is “the best” or the “real” cop and decide who is the other mafia after the flip.
I think we have enough information and it's arguably productive to milk it even more.
What town should do on the other hand is trying to find the second mafia WITHOUT making associative reads.
I get why you say this but if we end up lynching shockey working out who the second mafia is is irrelevant because power roles solve the game.
Id prefer to continue to discuss who we are lynching between the two cop claim.
Can both cop claims go into as much detail ad they can on how they chose their checks?
Let me think about this. If we lynch correctly today:
N1 4v1, 2 confirmed townies D2 3v1, probably 2 confirmed townies with another check. If we mislynch, then: N2 2v1, GG.
So not really, the cop is very important but won’t determine our win.
This is wrong it would be 3 confirmed towns the cop and his 2 checks (this only works if shockey is fakeclaim)
No... We had one check. That makes 3 if doctor claims. Which I think is silly.
I dont really follow you. There is 6 people left.
If we were to lynch shockey and then there is a NK there is 4 people left. It will be 3 town and 1 mafia in the number 4 is town cop world
Currently in that world there is two confirmed towns yourself and GB. Who should both survive the night because they will be killing the docter dadred.
That leaves myself and vivax and you will have a check on one of us. Which means the game is solved
That leaves
It's day.
Yah
D1 4 v 2 N0 4 v 1 D2 3 v 1 by this stage you have yourself GB and 1 more check which is 3 confirmed in your eyes.
Am I making sense?
You’re assuming they will kill Damdred. And to be fair, if we believe Damdred is really the doctor then we lynch outside the claims.
On September 19 2020 06:50 Number 4 wrote: I think is better for town to focus this night which cop is “the best” or the “real” cop and decide who is the other mafia after the flip.
I think we have enough information and it's arguably productive to milk it even more.
What town should do on the other hand is trying to find the second mafia WITHOUT making associative reads.
I get why you say this but if we end up lynching shockey working out who the second mafia is is irrelevant because power roles solve the game.
Id prefer to continue to discuss who we are lynching between the two cop claim.
Can both cop claims go into as much detail ad they can on how they chose their checks?
Let me think about this. If we lynch correctly today:
N1 4v1, 2 confirmed townies D2 3v1, probably 2 confirmed townies with another check. If we mislynch, then: N2 2v1, GG.
So not really, the cop is very important but won’t determine our win.
This is wrong it would be 3 confirmed towns the cop and his 2 checks (this only works if shockey is fakeclaim)
No... We had one check. That makes 3 if doctor claims. Which I think is silly.
I dont really follow you. There is 6 people left.
If we were to lynch shockey and then there is a NK there is 4 people left. It will be 3 town and 1 mafia in the number 4 is town cop world
Currently in that world there is two confirmed towns yourself and GB. Who should both survive the night because they will be killing the docter dadred.
That leaves myself and vivax and you will have a check on one of us. Which means the game is solved
That leaves
It's day.
Yah
D1 4 v 2 N0 4 v 1 D2 3 v 1 by this stage you have yourself GB and 1 more check which is 3 confirmed in your eyes.
Am I making sense?
You’re assuming they will kill Damdred. And to be fair, if we believe Damdred is really the doctor then we lynch outside the claims.
If they don't kill damdred then its an extra confirmed? Why would we lynch outside of the claims if we lynch wrong we lose
On September 19 2020 08:13 GlowingBear wrote: [quote]
I think we have enough information and it's arguably productive to milk it even more.
What town should do on the other hand is trying to find the second mafia WITHOUT making associative reads.
I get why you say this but if we end up lynching shockey working out who the second mafia is is irrelevant because power roles solve the game.
Id prefer to continue to discuss who we are lynching between the two cop claim.
Can both cop claims go into as much detail ad they can on how they chose their checks?
Let me think about this. If we lynch correctly today:
N1 4v1, 2 confirmed townies D2 3v1, probably 2 confirmed townies with another check. If we mislynch, then: N2 2v1, GG.
So not really, the cop is very important but won’t determine our win.
This is wrong it would be 3 confirmed towns the cop and his 2 checks (this only works if shockey is fakeclaim)
No... We had one check. That makes 3 if doctor claims. Which I think is silly.
I dont really follow you. There is 6 people left.
If we were to lynch shockey and then there is a NK there is 4 people left. It will be 3 town and 1 mafia in the number 4 is town cop world
Currently in that world there is two confirmed towns yourself and GB. Who should both survive the night because they will be killing the docter dadred.
That leaves myself and vivax and you will have a check on one of us. Which means the game is solved
That leaves
It's day.
Yah
D1 4 v 2 N0 4 v 1 D2 3 v 1 by this stage you have yourself GB and 1 more check which is 3 confirmed in your eyes.
Am I making sense?
You’re assuming they will kill Damdred. And to be fair, if we believe Damdred is really the doctor then we lynch outside the claims.
If they don't kill damdred then its an extra confirmed? Why would we lynch outside of the claims if we lynch wrong we lose
Is he an extra confirmed? If someone claims doctor later, we will have to decide again between two claims. That’s my point.
You’re right. We lose if we mislynch today. I was thinking we would still have day2
I get why you say this but if we end up lynching shockey working out who the second mafia is is irrelevant because power roles solve the game.
Id prefer to continue to discuss who we are lynching between the two cop claim.
Can both cop claims go into as much detail ad they can on how they chose their checks?
Let me think about this. If we lynch correctly today:
N1 4v1, 2 confirmed townies D2 3v1, probably 2 confirmed townies with another check. If we mislynch, then: N2 2v1, GG.
So not really, the cop is very important but won’t determine our win.
This is wrong it would be 3 confirmed towns the cop and his 2 checks (this only works if shockey is fakeclaim)
No... We had one check. That makes 3 if doctor claims. Which I think is silly.
I dont really follow you. There is 6 people left.
If we were to lynch shockey and then there is a NK there is 4 people left. It will be 3 town and 1 mafia in the number 4 is town cop world
Currently in that world there is two confirmed towns yourself and GB. Who should both survive the night because they will be killing the docter dadred.
That leaves myself and vivax and you will have a check on one of us. Which means the game is solved
That leaves
It's day.
Yah
D1 4 v 2 N0 4 v 1 D2 3 v 1 by this stage you have yourself GB and 1 more check which is 3 confirmed in your eyes.
Am I making sense?
You’re assuming they will kill Damdred. And to be fair, if we believe Damdred is really the doctor then we lynch outside the claims.
If they don't kill damdred then its an extra confirmed? Why would we lynch outside of the claims if we lynch wrong we lose
Is he an extra confirmed? If someone claims doctor later, we will have to decide again between two claims. That’s my point.
You’re right. We lose if we mislynch today. I was thinking we would still have day2
On September 19 2020 04:54 ShoCkeyy wrote: I literally can picture GB and Number 4's QT
"Don't kill shockeyy N0, he's a easy push for D1"
Why would myself and N4, as mafia, decide to kill you, just to see you flipping cop, and have her lynched right after?
ROFL
That's even why I asked the doctor to not save inside the claims, because mafia would shoot outside it to kill the doctor and that if they even decide to shoot the real cop, we have a confirmed mafia on the other side. It's basically a win-win.
But then I realized that if we lose the cop, we are a bit screwed later on.
Cause you're mafia, and she's willing to die late game to win. It's not hard math.
I die today, that's -1 town, leaving three town, and two mafia.
Mafia kills one more town at night, and that's essentially BG.
On September 19 2020 06:24 Monadel wrote: if shockey is mafia then vivax is his partner
I’m not mafia, the town is my partner. Notice how it’s only two people that are constantly against me. Rayn was at least trying to speak to me. GB basically said he would always think I’m mafia. That’s not town mentality.
This is a lie, GB was the only one trying to think of you as town while rayn was always it is Shockey + Damred.
On September 19 2020 12:35 Monadel wrote: I mean n1 not n0 sorry
Monadel think of it this way, N4 and GB are both willing to vote you out if necessary. I’m typically always on the chopping block in every game we play together, and they’re using that to the advantage of the game to kill a blue during D1.
Vote you out what?
I am voting the shit out of you because you are mafia.
No, the lynch today MUST be between the cop claims (obviously Shockey).
What the last mafia does at night we don’t care becsuse there is still a chance Damred is lying. (Don’t get mad if you are the real doctor, but idk if you are lying and as town I have to be wary)
Also I want to point out that if town misslynches today the game is over and mafia wins.
To answer you Monadel I believed GB was mafia, have said that several times. And even tho I didnt get a mafia I think at the end is a good check because he is a very vocal player.
On September 19 2020 16:53 Monadel wrote: Reading some of rayns filter and because im still not really sure what way to go with the cop claims I think we should no lynch today.
GB/Number 4 I'd appreciate your comments on this and if you could unvote if you agree so there can be no tom foolery with instant majority.
Can you also elaborate on what are the things you like or dislike of each cop?
On September 19 2020 17:17 Number 4 wrote: There is no lynch
We are at 4 vs 2
Someone dies (more likely a vanilla townie or maybe even the doc if they are lucky)
So 3 vs 2
Obviously they are going to keep GB and the hydra alive vs the two mafia.
1 vanilla townie, second one with no info is going to be alive (or doc)
Sounds a bit dangerous to me, better scenario than 2 vs 2 but that day is going to be a shit fest.
2 vs 2 is mafia wincon dear
Which is why 100% our vote is always staying on shock. He's confirmed mafia. If this vote don't go to us I'm not a like Iair. I will literally push the next person to the tree if you let scum live today.
On September 19 2020 17:17 Number 4 wrote: There is no lynch
We are at 4 vs 2
Someone dies (more likely a vanilla townie or maybe even the doc if they are lucky)
So 3 vs 2
Obviously they are going to keep GB and the hydra alive vs the two mafia.
1 vanilla townie, second one with no info is going to be alive (or doc)
Sounds a bit dangerous to me, better scenario than 2 vs 2 but that day is going to be a shit fest.
2 vs 2 is mafia wincon dear
Which is why 100% our vote is always staying on shock. He's confirmed mafia. If this vote don't go to us I'm not a like Iair. I will literally push the next person to the tree if you let scum live today.
-es
How am I confirmed mafia? I’m only confirmed mafia to the actual mafia team.
On September 19 2020 17:17 Number 4 wrote: There is no lynch
We are at 4 vs 2
Someone dies (more likely a vanilla townie or maybe even the doc if they are lucky)
So 3 vs 2
Obviously they are going to keep GB and the hydra alive vs the two mafia.
1 vanilla townie, second one with no info is going to be alive (or doc)
Sounds a bit dangerous to me, better scenario than 2 vs 2 but that day is going to be a shit fest.
2 vs 2 is mafia wincon dear
Which is why 100% our vote is always staying on shock. He's confirmed mafia. If this vote don't go to us I'm not a like Iair. I will literally push the next person to the tree if you let scum live today.
-es
How am I confirmed mafia? I’m only confirmed mafia to the actual mafia team.
You're confirmed mafia because me and cake have a check. You say you did but I know your lying. Town fakeclaim would of walked away from this. I'm apparently scum to you after the only partner that made sense with me flip town. None of this makes any darn sense. You're mafia. Bye bye hun :3!
On September 19 2020 17:17 Number 4 wrote: There is no lynch
We are at 4 vs 2
Someone dies (more likely a vanilla townie or maybe even the doc if they are lucky)
So 3 vs 2
Obviously they are going to keep GB and the hydra alive vs the two mafia.
1 vanilla townie, second one with no info is going to be alive (or doc)
Sounds a bit dangerous to me, better scenario than 2 vs 2 but that day is going to be a shit fest.
2 vs 2 is mafia wincon dear
Which is why 100% our vote is always staying on shock. He's confirmed mafia. If this vote don't go to us I'm not a like Iair. I will literally push the next person to the tree if you let scum live today.
-es
How am I confirmed mafia? I’m only confirmed mafia to the actual mafia team.
I.e. the only way we hard claim n0 is to cc. Rayn knows me very well. I know rayn very well. I hard defend my 'scum buddy' n0. I back up cake's statement. Why wouldn't I just let the fake claim stand and shoot for doctor? I can't because I reliazed rayn was town. So I shoot who I hope is doc, you live, we no lynch, doc outs himself, and we loose?
Let’s say that at the end of the day all of us decide not to lynch but suddenly the two mafia come in last second and say “##lynch 4” do we get lynched?
It should be plurality and whoever gets there first gets lynched.
So I'll admit I was more interested in reading and giving people more time to develop. Mon's reaction the lynch was man it must be Vivax now!
The way he reacted to the claim, he instantly believed me (which is true in any case), if you compare it to the way GB and Number 4 reacted to it (suspicion) we start seeing some real differences.
Mon does not really have much reaction to the checks, instead he is ready to go onto Vivax as that is the most likely scenario to him. He really just does not seem to care about today's lynch. Its bad reasoning but I think his reaction to the claim (no suspicion) and him instantly trying to set up next day on the Vivax wagon makes him more likely scum, I think.
On September 20 2020 04:59 Dadred wrote: It should be plurality and whoever gets there first gets lynched.
So I'll admit I was more interested in reading and giving people more time to develop. Mon's reaction the lynch was man it must be Vivax now!
The way he reacted to the claim, he instantly believed me (which is true in any case), if you compare it to the way GB and Number 4 reacted to it (suspicion) we start seeing some real differences.
Mon does not really have much reaction to the checks, instead he is ready to go onto Vivax as that is the most likely scenario to him. He really just does not seem to care about today's lynch. Its bad reasoning but I think his reaction to the claim (no suspicion) and him instantly trying to set up next day on the Vivax wagon makes him more likely scum, I think.
On September 20 2020 04:59 Dadred wrote: It should be plurality and whoever gets there first gets lynched.
So I'll admit I was more interested in reading and giving people more time to develop. Mon's reaction the lynch was man it must be Vivax now!
The way he reacted to the claim, he instantly believed me (which is true in any case), if you compare it to the way GB and Number 4 reacted to it (suspicion) we start seeing some real differences.
Mon does not really have much reaction to the checks, instead he is ready to go onto Vivax as that is the most likely scenario to him. He really just does not seem to care about today's lynch. Its bad reasoning but I think his reaction to the claim (no suspicion) and him instantly trying to set up next day on the Vivax wagon makes him more likely scum, I think.
Why would I not believe you. I dont want to lynch vivax today but mechanically if number 4 is mafia then vivax is also mafia.
At the moment i don't care about the lynch because i think the best way forward is to no lynch.
What reaction were you expecting me to have to the checks? Also me saying vivax is mafia is a reaction to number 4s check?
On September 20 2020 04:59 Dadred wrote: It should be plurality and whoever gets there first gets lynched.
So I'll admit I was more interested in reading and giving people more time to develop. Mon's reaction the lynch was man it must be Vivax now!
The way he reacted to the claim, he instantly believed me (which is true in any case), if you compare it to the way GB and Number 4 reacted to it (suspicion) we start seeing some real differences.
Mon does not really have much reaction to the checks, instead he is ready to go onto Vivax as that is the most likely scenario to him. He really just does not seem to care about today's lynch. Its bad reasoning but I think his reaction to the claim (no suspicion) and him instantly trying to set up next day on the Vivax wagon makes him more likely scum, I think.
On September 19 2020 17:17 Number 4 wrote: There is no lynch
We are at 4 vs 2
Someone dies (more likely a vanilla townie or maybe even the doc if they are lucky)
So 3 vs 2
Obviously they are going to keep GB and the hydra alive vs the two mafia.
1 vanilla townie, second one with no info is going to be alive (or doc)
Sounds a bit dangerous to me, better scenario than 2 vs 2 but that day is going to be a shit fest.
2 vs 2 is mafia wincon dear
Which is why 100% our vote is always staying on shock. He's confirmed mafia. If this vote don't go to us I'm not a like Iair. I will literally push the next person to the tree if you let scum live today.
-es
How am I confirmed mafia? I’m only confirmed mafia to the actual mafia team.
You're confirmed mafia because me and cake have a check. You say you did but I know your lying. Town fakeclaim would of walked away from this. I'm apparently scum to you after the only partner that made sense with me flip town. None of this makes any darn sense. You're mafia. Bye bye hun :3!
A check on who? Gb? How does that confirm I’m mafia? That makes no sense. Or are you saying that you lied about checking GB?
On September 19 2020 17:17 Number 4 wrote: There is no lynch
We are at 4 vs 2
Someone dies (more likely a vanilla townie or maybe even the doc if they are lucky)
So 3 vs 2
Obviously they are going to keep GB and the hydra alive vs the two mafia.
1 vanilla townie, second one with no info is going to be alive (or doc)
Sounds a bit dangerous to me, better scenario than 2 vs 2 but that day is going to be a shit fest.
2 vs 2 is mafia wincon dear
Which is why 100% our vote is always staying on shock. He's confirmed mafia. If this vote don't go to us I'm not a like Iair. I will literally push the next person to the tree if you let scum live today.
-es
How am I confirmed mafia? I’m only confirmed mafia to the actual mafia team.
You're confirmed mafia because me and cake have a check. You say you did but I know your lying. Town fakeclaim would of walked away from this. I'm apparently scum to you after the only partner that made sense with me flip town. None of this makes any darn sense. You're mafia. Bye bye hun :3!
A check on who? Gb? How does that confirm I’m mafia? That makes no sense. Or are you saying that you lied about checking GB?
🙄
You are mafia because I am the cop and you insist in saying you are, it doesnt matter who I pick to check, your lie is what makes you mafia therefore I am not going to change my vote.
I have the power to check people, you dont, period.
On September 20 2020 04:59 Dadred wrote: It should be plurality and whoever gets there first gets lynched.
So I'll admit I was more interested in reading and giving people more time to develop. Mon's reaction the lynch was man it must be Vivax now!
The way he reacted to the claim, he instantly believed me (which is true in any case), if you compare it to the way GB and Number 4 reacted to it (suspicion) we start seeing some real differences.
Mon does not really have much reaction to the checks, instead he is ready to go onto Vivax as that is the most likely scenario to him. He really just does not seem to care about today's lynch. Its bad reasoning but I think his reaction to the claim (no suspicion) and him instantly trying to set up next day on the Vivax wagon makes him more likely scum, I think.
Why is my reaction questionable?
-es
It's not suspicion on a claim is understandable from town perspective I think
On September 19 2020 17:17 Number 4 wrote: There is no lynch
We are at 4 vs 2
Someone dies (more likely a vanilla townie or maybe even the doc if they are lucky)
So 3 vs 2
Obviously they are going to keep GB and the hydra alive vs the two mafia.
1 vanilla townie, second one with no info is going to be alive (or doc)
Sounds a bit dangerous to me, better scenario than 2 vs 2 but that day is going to be a shit fest.
2 vs 2 is mafia wincon dear
Which is why 100% our vote is always staying on shock. He's confirmed mafia. If this vote don't go to us I'm not a like Iair. I will literally push the next person to the tree if you let scum live today.
-es
How am I confirmed mafia? I’m only confirmed mafia to the actual mafia team.
You're confirmed mafia because me and cake have a check. You say you did but I know your lying. Town fakeclaim would of walked away from this. I'm apparently scum to you after the only partner that made sense with me flip town. None of this makes any darn sense. You're mafia. Bye bye hun :3!
A check on who? Gb? How does that confirm I’m mafia? That makes no sense. Or are you saying that you lied about checking GB?
No. I hardclaim, damdred saved, I live.. You hard claim, investigation on a player I told you was town. I have very reliable proof of GB. You are trying to kill me ( town) after I told you my check AND got doc save??!?!
Really? I'm about to throw a blood vessel out. Die you mafia manure! :3
Guys, we need to move on with this. Shockey and N4, going against each other won’t help anyone now. I’d suggest that you try to convince town that you are the real cop instead trying to convince each other that you’re mafia.
Now, town, I would like you to tell me why you are not convinced to vote any of the claimers.
I’ll be waiting for every other player: Monadel, Vivax, Dadred.
On September 19 2020 06:50 Number 4 wrote: I think is better for town to focus this night which cop is “the best” or the “real” cop and decide who is the other mafia after the flip.
I want that treatment to be applied to shockey, so far the only person that talked to him trying to get information is GB. Rayn didnt care because as me know Shockey’s personality.
So, Dadred, Monadel and Vivax, if you want to solve the game by your own ask Shockey questions. I am willing to answer to.
On September 20 2020 07:27 Dadred wrote: Because we still have more than 24 hours to play mafia, and listen to arguments.
I understand damdy, but what information do you expect to get? We had 30 hours since the flip. Did the discussion so far helped you with finding out who the real cop is?
I am not trying to convince Shockey, he is saying things in a way like “you didnt check me and you said you are the cop” nosense but it seems anyone can see or read his posts and the no logical things he is saying.
On September 20 2020 08:44 Number 4 wrote: I am not trying to convince Shockey, he is saying things in a way like “you didnt check me and you said you are the cop” nosense but it seems anyone can see or read his posts and the no logical things he is saying.
Being illogical doesn’t make him mafia. That’s actually more like town shockey. What makes him more likely to be mafia is to paint a scenery where I am mafia with you and we both tried to start a wagon on him.
Between you and me, if we have damdy, myself and you as town, it boils down to choosing between Monadel and Vivax as mafia. Who would be mafia between them two?
On September 20 2020 08:44 Number 4 wrote: I am not trying to convince Shockey, he is saying things in a way like “you didnt check me and you said you are the cop” nosense but it seems anyone can see or read his posts and the no logical things he is saying.
Being illogical doesn’t make him mafia. That’s actually more like town shockey. What makes him more likely to be mafia is to paint a scenery where I am mafia with you and we both tried to start a wagon on him.
Between you and me, if we have damdy, myself and you as town, it boils down to choosing between Monadel and Vivax as mafia. Who would be mafia between them two?
I would say Vivax and I bet the moment I say this he will find ways to call me mafia and bullshit.
On September 20 2020 08:44 Number 4 wrote: I am not trying to convince Shockey, he is saying things in a way like “you didnt check me and you said you are the cop” nosense but it seems anyone can see or read his posts and the no logical things he is saying.
Being illogical doesn’t make him mafia. That’s actually more like town shockey. What makes him more likely to be mafia is to paint a scenery where I am mafia with you and we both tried to start a wagon on him.
Between you and me, if we have damdy, myself and you as town, it boils down to choosing between Monadel and Vivax as mafia. Who would be mafia between them two?
I would say Vivax and I bet the moment I say this he will find ways to call me mafia and bullshit.
Thing is I liked Monadel proposal of a no lynch.
Can you check if that would be helpful?
No lynching guarantees we have a second day. It also guarantees a second check.
Day1 4v2 N1 4v2 Day2 3v2 If we lynch correctly N2 3v1 D2 2v1
IMO it really doesn’t matter since it will inevitably boil down to who is the real cop...
On September 20 2020 08:55 GlowingBear wrote: Alright.
Shockey, is you’re actually town: if you were mafia, how would you play this day?
The same goes to you N4
For starters, I wouldn't have cc last night and kill a random townie, probably someone vocal, giving me space to misslynch the lurker, aka I would have killed you. Not rayn tho, the idea to fool him is entertaining and a challenge.
Depending of the cop check it would be our next move, if the cop checked my teammate I would have getting him lynched to win town cred, trying to make good arguments ofc. Then I would have kill someone else, this time someone shy with not so much info, someone hard to manipulate, probably monadel.
This info is based on peoples personalities and seeing myself as a lonely mafia with no partner.
Forgot to add that if I was the one discovered by the check I would have helped my partner to burn me and die in rip pieces as a mafia hero giving cred to my partner.
Even tho I prefer to never lynch a partner I think a very small game doesnt apply to this.
Ok but consider the game from this moment and on. What would be your optimal play as mafia? Considering you’ve fake claimed a check on me because you knew I am town.
On September 20 2020 09:23 GlowingBear wrote: Ok but consider the game from this moment and on. What would be your optimal play as mafia? Considering you’ve fake claimed a check on me because you knew I am town.
I'd hard buddy damdred. Shot him. Fight today for shock. When he flips I die. Town still has cop this scenario. Why does mafia care? I wouldn't. Assuming this is true, I kill the doc, we no the cop, and win. Are you serious?
M!es literally never wouldn't take advantage of this.
I would have tried to say that I an town and abuse that rayn read me as town and that is why he died, they are tryingggg tooo kill people that townread me etc.
Then last minute me and my partner would have placed the votes because at the end of the day whoever gets more votes dies and it doesnt matter if we out ourselves, is game over.
It's the optimual play. I claim at a time where town gets the most information but mafia has no chance to change kill in the few seconds leading up to EON.
This gives town the most information, keeps cop hopefully alive for another check and you get hopefully there confirmed town d2.
Plus there is a hope mafia cc on d1 and everyone eoutside us four would be confirmed, which the cops could then check between the docs.
But since mafia were to scared to cc I'm just confirmed.
Best play obviously for ever and me is to lynch shockey.
Now thinking about the two persons missing, Monadel and Vivax I don’t know what to think about it.
A part of me thinks that Mafia Vivax would take advantage of the situation and call 4 mafia always. On the other hand if he called me mafia there is also the probability that GB and Rayn would have call him out because of their reasons to think why Shockey is mafia and not us so maybe he is wary of this and that is why his only posts are about to throw shade at GB.
Then we have Monadel who I can’t read because he is new, he proposed the no lynch which is a pro town thing, Could it be that him not being to choose which cop is more trustful is because he doesn't know us? Or is it that he is a mafia that doesn't know what to do and is trying to look town in case Shockey gets lynched? Or is the no lynch plan to go last minute and vote me and win the game?
Either way, I promise you that if we lynch shockey you lynched mafia and it will be easy game because we just need to check one of them and rip mafia.
The problem that I also have is that a Vivax x Shockey would be more synchronized and I doubt Mafia Vivax would allow shockey to post “Say you checked Rayn”.
Idk or maybe Vivax is just mafia and is busy irl or something.
We are not moving our vote. No Lynch is stupid when there is 100% 1 mafia between shock and us. That's silliness. People need to decide which of us is lying through our teeth and lynch into that.
Vivax had a pass from me so far just on meta but I'm starting to worry. Usually a t!Vivax is wrecking the mafia team by now. Or at least trying. He's smart. This inactive from him makes me hope he's busy not mafia. But I'll evaluate that after the day ends.
On September 20 2020 18:30 Monadel wrote: Dadred why did you claim?
Not trying to say for damdy, but probably because it forces mafia to shoot him or c.c. short of this then after the lynch town has another check, damdred dies because no scenario mafia leaves doc alive. He's already said I'm the save (or implied heavily). So if I die that makes damdred mafia. Thus he's town or I die and game is solved.
Why do you always take my content and repurpose for your doing? I’m going to start filing plagiarism cases with our local cop, who is myself. I’ll see you in court with a warrant.
Side note: how much time we have left before end of day 1? I’ve been packing since I’m moving in 10 days.
On September 21 2020 01:24 ShoCkeyy wrote: GB and N4 seem so sure they want to lynch me. They don’t even want to consider a no lynch. That should tell you something.
You said it not me. Sorry we hit you n0 but bad plays are bad plays.
I'm saying we never no Lynch between TWO cop claims. That's freaking stupid. Town doesn't have two cops. That MAKES one of us scum. You. And here I am pushing the person I fucking know is mafia and your over there advocating a no Lynch when the doctor is on the line?
Are you just stupid? Because play that bad makes my head hurt.
You fucked up. I'm doing my darndest to make you swing hun.
On September 21 2020 02:37 Number 4 wrote: I'm drop dead on my feet soon. If someone else wants to talk now is time ..
-es
I don’t have much to discuss, sorry. All we have is people who wants to no Lynch so they can keep not playing longer
Is ok, if you can bullet point between vivax and Mona.. My nets down so stuck on my phone. I'm retarded with phones on the best of days. Let alone at 2 in the morning t.t.
I'll try to filter but multi quotes I probably can't do..
On September 21 2020 02:37 Number 4 wrote: I'm drop dead on my feet soon. If someone else wants to talk now is time ..
-es
I don’t have much to discuss, sorry. All we have is people who wants to no Lynch so they can keep not playing longer
Is ok, if you can bullet point between vivax and Mona.. My nets down so stuck on my phone. I'm retarded with phones on the best of days. Let alone at 2 in the morning t.t.
I'll try to filter but multi quotes I probably can't do..
-es
I think Monadel is actively interested in solving the game and although not posting much, he is being contributive, bringing his on thoughts to the table, seems genuine and interested in pushing town to the best direction possible.
Vivas is completely disconnected from the game, draws a conclusion where myself and Shockey are mafia together, votes shockey with me (I know he took that back but still). I have nothing else from Vivax. IF I had to choose mafia to be between one of them, it would be Vivax.
On September 21 2020 02:37 Number 4 wrote: I'm drop dead on my feet soon. If someone else wants to talk now is time ..
-es
I don’t have much to discuss, sorry. All we have is people who wants to no Lynch so they can keep not playing longer
This comment is unfair.
Why do you have no doubt about it being number 4?
I've thought number 4 was the real cop mostly because I'm stil following what rayns said. If number 4 is the real cop it doesn't matter if we no lynch or if we lynch. The game is "solved" from cop checks tomorrow either way. This leads me to ask myself why will you guys (GB and Number 4) not just no lynch to let us get a bit more information. It honestly feels like you're trying to rush this lynch through for the win. This makes me feel like you two are mafia which makes me again not want to make a decision on the cop claims. You don't lose anything by no lynching.
Also its instant majority. Mafia can't quickly cause a lynch at end of day. If there is no majority there is no lynch.
On September 21 2020 02:37 Number 4 wrote: I'm drop dead on my feet soon. If someone else wants to talk now is time ..
-es
I don’t have much to discuss, sorry. All we have is people who wants to no Lynch so they can keep not playing longer
Is ok, if you can bullet point between vivax and Mona.. My nets down so stuck on my phone. I'm retarded with phones on the best of days. Let alone at 2 in the morning t.t.
I'll try to filter but multi quotes I probably can't do..
-es
I think Monadel is actively interested in solving the game and although not posting much, he is being contributive, bringing his on thoughts to the table, seems genuine and interested in pushing town to the best direction possible.
Vivas is completely disconnected from the game, draws a conclusion where myself and Shockey are mafia together, votes shockey with me (I know he took that back but still). I have nothing else from Vivax. IF I had to choose mafia to be between one of them, it would be Vivax.
We are basically same page. Vivax usually has a weak d1 but we already had 72 hrs. It's highly suspicious he's Mia. Best case he's the last and they'll just fold after Lynch. I have to talk to cake because is her call. I'd check between the two. Everyone else is cleared.
On September 21 2020 02:37 Number 4 wrote: I'm drop dead on my feet soon. If someone else wants to talk now is time ..
-es
I don’t have much to discuss, sorry. All we have is people who wants to no Lynch so they can keep not playing longer
This comment is unfair.
Why do you have no doubt about it being number 4?
I've thought number 4 was the real cop mostly because I'm stil following what rayns said. If number 4 is the real cop it doesn't matter if we no lynch or if we lynch. The game is "solved" from cop checks tomorrow either way. This leads me to ask myself why will you guys (GB and Number 4) not just no lynch to let us get a bit more information. It honestly feels like you're trying to rush this lynch through for the win. This makes me feel like you two are mafia which makes me again not want to make a decision on the cop claims. You don't lose anything by no lynching.
Also its instant majority. Mafia can't quickly cause a lynch at end of day. If there is no majority there is no lynch.
No we no Lynch you need to hit scum 100%. If I'm mafia shock dies. If I'm not, damdred save is on me, damdred dies. Mafia gets a free shot to kill doc tonight if we know lynch.
On September 21 2020 02:37 Number 4 wrote: I'm drop dead on my feet soon. If someone else wants to talk now is time ..
-es
I don’t have much to discuss, sorry. All we have is people who wants to no Lynch so they can keep not playing longer
This comment is unfair.
Why do you have no doubt about it being number 4?
I've thought number 4 was the real cop mostly because I'm stil following what rayns said. If number 4 is the real cop it doesn't matter if we no lynch or if we lynch. The game is "solved" from cop checks tomorrow either way. This leads me to ask myself why will you guys (GB and Number 4) not just no lynch to let us get a bit more information. It honestly feels like you're trying to rush this lynch through for the win. This makes me feel like you two are mafia which makes me again not want to make a decision on the cop claims. You don't lose anything by no lynching.
Also its instant majority. Mafia can't quickly cause a lynch at end of day. If there is no majority there is no lynch.
No we no Lynch you need to hit scum 100%. If I'm mafia shock dies. If I'm not, damdred save is on me, damdred dies. Mafia gets a free shot to kill doc tonight if we know lynch.
On September 21 2020 02:37 Number 4 wrote: I'm drop dead on my feet soon. If someone else wants to talk now is time ..
-es
I don’t have much to discuss, sorry. All we have is people who wants to no Lynch so they can keep not playing longer
This comment is unfair.
Why do you have no doubt about it being number 4?
I've thought number 4 was the real cop mostly because I'm stil following what rayns said. If number 4 is the real cop it doesn't matter if we no lynch or if we lynch. The game is "solved" from cop checks tomorrow either way. This leads me to ask myself why will you guys (GB and Number 4) not just no lynch to let us get a bit more information. It honestly feels like you're trying to rush this lynch through for the win. This makes me feel like you two are mafia which makes me again not want to make a decision on the cop claims. You don't lose anything by no lynching.
Also its instant majority. Mafia can't quickly cause a lynch at end of day. If there is no majority there is no lynch.
On September 21 2020 02:37 Number 4 wrote: I'm drop dead on my feet soon. If someone else wants to talk now is time ..
-es
I don’t have much to discuss, sorry. All we have is people who wants to no Lynch so they can keep not playing longer
Is ok, if you can bullet point between vivax and Mona.. My nets down so stuck on my phone. I'm retarded with phones on the best of days. Let alone at 2 in the morning t.t.
I'll try to filter but multi quotes I probably can't do..
-es
I think Monadel is actively interested in solving the game and although not posting much, he is being contributive, bringing his on thoughts to the table, seems genuine and interested in pushing town to the best direction possible.
Vivas is completely disconnected from the game, draws a conclusion where myself and Shockey are mafia together, votes shockey with me (I know he took that back but still). I have nothing else from Vivax. IF I had to choose mafia to be between one of them, it would be Vivax.
I think there is a flaw here, have you read my posts of why Monadel could be mafia?
Ofc I dont mean Vivax is town either but to me is mostly a 50-50.
The problem with inactives and what I have learned in late games is that they are not exactly mafia for it.
Except chezinu who just came last minute to vote for rayn, which is what I am afraid mafia will do here.
On September 21 2020 02:37 Number 4 wrote: I'm drop dead on my feet soon. If someone else wants to talk now is time ..
-es
I don’t have much to discuss, sorry. All we have is people who wants to no Lynch so they can keep not playing longer
This comment is unfair.
Why do you have no doubt about it being number 4?
I've thought number 4 was the real cop mostly because I'm stil following what rayns said. If number 4 is the real cop it doesn't matter if we no lynch or if we lynch. The game is "solved" from cop checks tomorrow either way. This leads me to ask myself why will you guys (GB and Number 4) not just no lynch to let us get a bit more information. It honestly feels like you're trying to rush this lynch through for the win. This makes me feel like you two are mafia which makes me again not want to make a decision on the cop claims. You don't lose anything by no lynching.
Also its instant majority. Mafia can't quickly cause a lynch at end of day. If there is no majority there is no lynch.
Huh...
I dont know what to think of this post.
Please explain the conclusion you're drawing from the bolded?
On September 21 2020 02:37 Number 4 wrote: I'm drop dead on my feet soon. If someone else wants to talk now is time ..
-es
I don’t have much to discuss, sorry. All we have is people who wants to no Lynch so they can keep not playing longer
This comment is unfair.
Why do you have no doubt about it being number 4?
I've thought number 4 was the real cop mostly because I'm stil following what rayns said. If number 4 is the real cop it doesn't matter if we no lynch or if we lynch. The game is "solved" from cop checks tomorrow either way. This leads me to ask myself why will you guys (GB and Number 4) not just no lynch to let us get a bit more information. It honestly feels like you're trying to rush this lynch through for the win. This makes me feel like you two are mafia which makes me again not want to make a decision on the cop claims. You don't lose anything by no lynching.
Also its instant majority. Mafia can't quickly cause a lynch at end of day. If there is no majority there is no lynch.
Huh...
I dont know what to think of this post.
Please explain the conclusion you're drawing from the bolded?
You need to come up with your own conclusions dont follow just “he said this”, like Rayn was wrong of Damred, he is a doctor with no cc, mafia would not dare to cc because they already fake claimed cop, it is suicide specially when dadred reasons of why claiming at the end makes A LOT of sense, not because he picked n4 but because it makes sense that mafia wouldnt do it o change his subject.
We know rayn was not wrong with us but he was with dadred.
Might I ask you some stuff? Well I will ask anyways to engage.
Have you noticed shockey hasnt answered people but just play victim and fight with ever?
Why isn't he trying to solve the game? Like trying to see who is the other mafia, theories, etc.
IF YOU were the cop and YOU knew the other guy was faking it wouldnt you be SURE the other one is mafia? Shockey is saying we are not considering the no lynch but we do not need to consider it, shockey hasnt voted for us because...?????????????????
On September 21 2020 03:39 Monadel wrote: We need to hit scum 100% right now so that is no different
Then decide if I'm scum or shock is and vote.
-es
Or I could no lynch and make that decision when I have more information
This is possibly the stranges thing you've said.
1) there is 100% mafia between shock and myself. 2) unless damdred is mafia we loss the doc 3) town is in way worse position if we no lynch
Your vote is your weapon if your town. Use it.
-es
Don't disagree on 1 but that will still be the same after the no lynch.
We lose damdred either way tonight so that's not relevant
3 is just wrong in my opinion we are actually in the same if not better position as I've explained previously.
This is very frustrating for me and I want to call you mafia for not understanding my point of view but it makes you more town
I dont think we are in a better position, they will obviously kill dadred and then what?
3 town vs 2 mafia
I know GB is sold with us but then I will have an inactive Vivax and you, one of you will go against me and say that I am mafia and try to convice GB and the other town that I am the bad guy. Night actions at the end of the day can only be useful if we lynch the right person tonight. Mafia can easily fake claim something like “Hey I checked Monadel he is town” and be true so You are sold, it doesnt matter if I ended up checking Vivax and I got a red check on him. This is an hypotetical scenario.
On September 21 2020 03:39 Monadel wrote: We need to hit scum 100% right now so that is no different
Then decide if I'm scum or shock is and vote.
-es
Or I could no lynch and make that decision when I have more information
This is possibly the stranges thing you've said.
1) there is 100% mafia between shock and myself. 2) unless damdred is mafia we loss the doc 3) town is in way worse position if we no lynch
Your vote is your weapon if your town. Use it.
-es
Don't disagree on 1 but that will still be the same after the no lynch.
We lose damdred either way tonight so that's not relevant
3 is just wrong in my opinion we are actually in the same if not better position as I've explained previously.
This is very frustrating for me and I want to call you mafia for not understanding my point of view but it makes you more town
If 1) is true then why not kill the scum? 2) is true which is exactly what makes 3) true.
Town losing a doctor for nothing when we already found mafia? I'm cutting a lot of slack friend because you're new but your logic is really flawed. How is it better for town if we let the doctor die, both cop claims live which puts us right back to this 'shock or 4 is scum', we waste an entire day.. Why?
Like I understand the ignorant town perspective of wanting the no lynch but I am also thinking ahead and is a no no. And it is frustrating because We know by FACT shockey is mafia.
Im not just blindly following rayn but I dont see a problem with looking back on what a flipped town has said. I also feel like you are misrepresenting what I've said there a bit.
I also agree that shockey not voting for you today looks bad and his reactionary posting also looks bad.
I dont understand why you are so against the no lynch. The game will be solved tomorrow from your point of view.
On September 21 2020 04:05 Number 4 wrote: Like I understand the ignorant town perspective of wanting the no lynch but I am also thinking ahead and is a no no. And it is frustrating because We know by FACT shockey is mafia.
- cop
Why is it a no no. Can you guys stop saying this and not backing it up.
Show me mechanically or whatever why it is a no no.
On September 21 2020 03:39 Monadel wrote: We need to hit scum 100% right now so that is no different
Then decide if I'm scum or shock is and vote.
-es
Or I could no lynch and make that decision when I have more information
This is possibly the stranges thing you've said.
1) there is 100% mafia between shock and myself. 2) unless damdred is mafia we loss the doc 3) town is in way worse position if we no lynch
Your vote is your weapon if your town. Use it.
-es
Here is my explanation. Don't disagree on 1 but that will still be the same after the no lynch.
We lose damdred either way tonight so that's not relevant
3 is just wrong in my opinion we are actually in the same if not better position as I've explained previously.
This is very frustrating for me and I want to call you mafia for not understanding my point of view but it makes you more town
I dont think we are in a better position, they will obviously kill dadred and then what?
3 town vs 2 mafia
I know GB is sold with us but then I will have an inactive Vivax and you, one of you will go against me and say that I am mafia and try to convice GB and the other town that I am the bad guy. Night actions at the end of the day can only be useful if we lynch the right person tonight. Mafia can easily fake claim something like “Hey I checked Monadel he is town” and be true so You are sold, it doesnt matter if I ended up checking Vivax and I got a red check on him. This is an hypotetical scenario.
On September 21 2020 04:07 Monadel wrote: Im not just blindly following rayn but I dont see a problem with looking back on what a flipped town has said. I also feel like you are misrepresenting what I've said there a bit.
I also agree that shockey not voting for you today looks bad and his reactionary posting also looks bad.
I dont understand why you are so against the no lynch. The game will be solved tomorrow from your point of view.
Why wait tomorrow for what can be done today? Time is money. I despise wasting either.
We have a fucking CONFIRMED mafia. As town I'll get my 310 out of the barn and put him 30 down a hole. Why won't you?
On September 21 2020 04:05 Number 4 wrote: Like I understand the ignorant town perspective of wanting the no lynch but I am also thinking ahead and is a no no. And it is frustrating because We know by FACT shockey is mafia.
- cop
Why is it a no no. Can you guys stop saying this and not backing it up.
Show me mechanically or whatever why it is a no no.
It's because at least we have a chance to be wrong. Give this day away no longer do we have it.
On September 21 2020 02:37 Number 4 wrote: I'm drop dead on my feet soon. If someone else wants to talk now is time ..
-es
I don’t have much to discuss, sorry. All we have is people who wants to no Lynch so they can keep not playing longer
This comment is unfair.
Why do you have no doubt about it being number 4?
I've thought number 4 was the real cop mostly because I'm stil following what rayns said. If number 4 is the real cop it doesn't matter if we no lynch or if we lynch. The game is "solved" from cop checks tomorrow either way. This leads me to ask myself why will you guys (GB and Number 4) not just no lynch to let us get a bit more information. It honestly feels like you're trying to rush this lynch through for the win. This makes me feel like you two are mafia which makes me again not want to make a decision on the cop claims. You don't lose anything by no lynching.
Also its instant majority. Mafia can't quickly cause a lynch at end of day. If there is no majority there is no lynch.
Please don't be upset. I'm okay with your play here, but I don't see the game moving forward so I'd rather confirm what I'm already convinced of.
We can no lynch but nothing will change my mind. I've had my fair share of information to decide Shockey is mafia and I can't see how any other relevant information can be obtained in the next hours.
On September 21 2020 04:07 Monadel wrote: Im not just blindly following rayn but I dont see a problem with looking back on what a flipped town has said. I also feel like you are misrepresenting what I've said there a bit.
I also agree that shockey not voting for you today looks bad and his reactionary posting also looks bad.
I dont understand why you are so against the no lynch. The game will be solved tomorrow from your point of view.
Why wait tomorrow for what can be done today? Time is money. I despise wasting either.
We have a fucking CONFIRMED mafia. As town I'll get my 310 out of the barn and put him 30 down a hole. Why won't you?
-es
Yea, I already know you’re the confirmed mafia. And GB is your partner. If GB had been reading, he’ll see my discussion on what I think of the game so far.
I also don’t mind USING my time to be able to continue building a case on yourself and Gb. Unlike you who and GB who are both so urgent to vote some one out.
On September 21 2020 02:37 Number 4 wrote: I'm drop dead on my feet soon. If someone else wants to talk now is time ..
-es
I don’t have much to discuss, sorry. All we have is people who wants to no Lynch so they can keep not playing longer
Is ok, if you can bullet point between vivax and Mona.. My nets down so stuck on my phone. I'm retarded with phones on the best of days. Let alone at 2 in the morning t.t.
I'll try to filter but multi quotes I probably can't do..
-es
I think Monadel is actively interested in solving the game and although not posting much, he is being contributive, bringing his on thoughts to the table, seems genuine and interested in pushing town to the best direction possible.
Vivas is completely disconnected from the game, draws a conclusion where myself and Shockey are mafia together, votes shockey with me (I know he took that back but still). I have nothing else from Vivax. IF I had to choose mafia to be between one of them, it would be Vivax.
I think there is a flaw here, have you read my posts of why Monadel could be mafia?
Ofc I dont mean Vivax is town either but to me is mostly a 50-50.
The problem with inactives and what I have learned in late games is that they are not exactly mafia for it.
Except chezinu who just came last minute to vote for rayn, which is what I am afraid mafia will do here.
It's not about his inactivity, it's about his behaviour.
I didn't read your posts about Monadel, I couldn't find it, if you could please direct me to them. I have limited internet connection during weekends, and I also have less time to play mafia, so. yeah...
On September 21 2020 04:07 Monadel wrote: Im not just blindly following rayn but I dont see a problem with looking back on what a flipped town has said. I also feel like you are misrepresenting what I've said there a bit.
I also agree that shockey not voting for you today looks bad and his reactionary posting also looks bad.
I dont understand why you are so against the no lynch. The game will be solved tomorrow from your point of view.
Why wait tomorrow for what can be done today? Time is money. I despise wasting either.
We have a fucking CONFIRMED mafia. As town I'll get my 310 out of the barn and put him 30 down a hole. Why won't you?
-es
Yea, I already know you’re the confirmed mafia. And GB is your partner. If GB had been reading, he’ll see my discussion on what I think of the game so far.
I don’t mind no lynching. I’m not mafia.
You know I'm mafia and your not lynching me? You're win con says that makes you scum.
On September 20 2020 23:29 Number 4 wrote: Best play obviously for ever and me is to lynch shockey.
Now thinking about the two persons missing, Monadel and Vivax I don’t know what to think about it.
A part of me thinks that Mafia Vivax would take advantage of the situation and call 4 mafia always. On the other hand if he called me mafia there is also the probability that GB and Rayn would have call him out because of their reasons to think why Shockey is mafia and not us so maybe he is wary of this and that is why his only posts are about to throw shade at GB.
Then we have Monadel who I can’t read because he is new, he proposed the no lynch which is a pro town thing, Could it be that him not being to choose which cop is more trustful is because he doesn't know us? Or is it that he is a mafia that doesn't know what to do and is trying to look town in case Shockey gets lynched? Or is the no lynch plan to go last minute and vote me and win the game?
Either way, I promise you that if we lynch shockey you lynched mafia and it will be easy game because we just need to check one of them and rip mafia.
On September 21 2020 04:07 Monadel wrote: Im not just blindly following rayn but I dont see a problem with looking back on what a flipped town has said. I also feel like you are misrepresenting what I've said there a bit.
I also agree that shockey not voting for you today looks bad and his reactionary posting also looks bad.
I dont understand why you are so against the no lynch. The game will be solved tomorrow from your point of view.
Why wait tomorrow for what can be done today? Time is money. I despise wasting either.
We have a fucking CONFIRMED mafia. As town I'll get my 310 out of the barn and put him 30 down a hole. Why won't you?
-es
Yea, I already know you’re the confirmed mafia. And GB is your partner. If GB had been reading, he’ll see my discussion on what I think of the game so far.
I don’t mind no lynching. I’m not mafia.
You know I'm mafia and your not lynching me? You're win con says that makes you scum.
-es
I still have more than enough time to vote for you or GB. It’s obvious. I’m not rushing to play the game.
On September 21 2020 04:53 ShoCkeyy wrote: I also don’t mind USING my time to be able to continue building a case on yourself and Gb. Unlike you who and GB who are both so urgent to vote some one out.
It's not about being urgent, is about not wanting to waste my time. I've made my mind about you but I'm still open to discuss. I've directed questions to you twice and you don't answer. You also aren't really worried about trying to solve everyone out, you've just assumed I'm mafia because I'm voting you, which is the easiest way to play as scum. Not in a single moment you've thought that I could be tunneled town. This is because you WANT me to be mafia, not that you actually believe I'm mafia. It fits your agenda perfectly. It's harder to fake the reconsideration of people's opinion. It's easier for mafia to just "see town, they want to lynch me, therefore, they are scum".
N4 is having the exact opposite behavior. They are here talking about almost everything to sort people out. If you are the real cop, why aren't you: (i) voting your scumread, (ii)figuring out who should be checked later, (iii)organizing yourself with the rest of the townies?
I'm sorry, but when you're town, if you have confirmed mafia on your aim, you don't advocate for a no lynch. It's simple as that.
On September 20 2020 23:29 Number 4 wrote: Best play obviously for ever and me is to lynch shockey.
Now thinking about the two persons missing, Monadel and Vivax I don’t know what to think about it.
A part of me thinks that Mafia Vivax would take advantage of the situation and call 4 mafia always. On the other hand if he called me mafia there is also the probability that GB and Rayn would have call him out because of their reasons to think why Shockey is mafia and not us so maybe he is wary of this and that is why his only posts are about to throw shade at GB.
Then we have Monadel who I can’t read because he is new, he proposed the no lynch which is a pro town thing, Could it be that him not being to choose which cop is more trustful is because he doesn't know us? Or is it that he is a mafia that doesn't know what to do and is trying to look town in case Shockey gets lynched? Or is the no lynch plan to go last minute and vote me and win the game?
Either way, I promise you that if we lynch shockey you lynched mafia and it will be easy game because we just need to check one of them and rip mafia.
@GB
What happens if we no lynch?
N1 4v2 D2 3v2
It is objectively better because, supposedly, we will have more time to gather information and less people to think about. So Monadel proposing a no-lynch isn't alignment indicative. What is alignment indicative is that he is interested in solving the game, and proposing a no-lynch partially reveals his interest. So, Monadel is probably town.
On September 21 2020 04:53 ShoCkeyy wrote: I also don’t mind USING my time to be able to continue building a case on yourself and Gb. Unlike you who and GB who are both so urgent to vote some one out.
It's not about being urgent, is about not wanting to waste my time. I've made my mind about you but I'm still open to discuss. I've directed questions to you twice and you don't answer. You also aren't really worried about trying to solve everyone out, you've just assumed I'm mafia because I'm voting you, which is the easiest way to play as scum. Not in a single moment you've thought that I could be tunneled town. This is because you WANT me to be mafia, not that you actually believe I'm mafia. It fits your agenda perfectly. It's harder to fake the reconsideration of people's opinion. It's easier for mafia to just "see town, they want to lynch me, therefore, they are scum".
N4 is having the exact opposite behavior. They are here talking about almost everything to sort people out. If you are the real cop, why aren't you: (i) voting your scumread, (ii)figuring out who should be checked later, (iii)organizing yourself with the rest of the townies?
I'm sorry, but when you're town, if you have confirmed mafia on your aim, you don't advocate for a no lynch. It's simple as that.
I’ve already spoke with the rest of the townies. I don’t need to discuss who I’m checking, only mafia would like to know who I’m checking. Even town Rayn said not to discuss that, and you’re here asking me to tell you, are you crazy? I already said I have time to vote, I don’t need to place my vote right now, unlike you and N4 who both were quick to vote.
If you would read my posts, I’ve literally discussed on N0 what N4 is discussing today. She’s literally just reposting me. I already solved the game N0 and now you and your team mate are headstrong to vote me out. Crazy.
On September 21 2020 03:39 Monadel wrote: We need to hit scum 100% right now so that is no different
Then decide if I'm scum or shock is and vote.
-es
Or I could no lynch and make that decision when I have more information
This is possibly the stranges thing you've said.
1) there is 100% mafia between shock and myself. 2) unless damdred is mafia we loss the doc 3) town is in way worse position if we no lynch
Your vote is your weapon if your town. Use it.
-es
Don't disagree on 1 but that will still be the same after the no lynch.
We lose damdred either way tonight so that's not relevant
3 is just wrong in my opinion we are actually in the same if not better position as I've explained previously.
This is very frustrating for me and I want to call you mafia for not understanding my point of view but it makes you more town
I dont think we are in a better position, they will obviously kill dadred and then what?
3 town vs 2 mafia
I know GB is sold with us but then I will have an inactive Vivax and you, one of you will go against me and say that I am mafia and try to convice GB and the other town that I am the bad guy. Night actions at the end of the day can only be useful if we lynch the right person tonight. Mafia can easily fake claim something like “Hey I checked Monadel he is town” and be true so You are sold, it doesnt matter if I ended up checking Vivax and I got a red check on him. This is an hypotetical scenario.
On September 21 2020 05:10 GlowingBear wrote: You know what we could do, if you want to?
Both Shockey and N4 checks Vivax N1 and only reveal their checks D2 as rayn has proposed before. This will tell a lot about who is mafia.
We no lynch today, they both check Vivax and come back with their reveal.
Can we all agree on that?
How is that different that the fake claim check she did on you? We know N4 is going to claim vivax is mafia since she’s mafia along with her team mate.
On September 21 2020 03:39 Monadel wrote: We need to hit scum 100% right now so that is no different
Then decide if I'm scum or shock is and vote.
-es
Or I could no lynch and make that decision when I have more information
This is possibly the stranges thing you've said.
1) there is 100% mafia between shock and myself. 2) unless damdred is mafia we loss the doc 3) town is in way worse position if we no lynch
Your vote is your weapon if your town. Use it.
-es
Don't disagree on 1 but that will still be the same after the no lynch.
We lose damdred either way tonight so that's not relevant
3 is just wrong in my opinion we are actually in the same if not better position as I've explained previously.
This is very frustrating for me and I want to call you mafia for not understanding my point of view but it makes you more town
I dont think we are in a better position, they will obviously kill dadred and then what?
3 town vs 2 mafia
I know GB is sold with us but then I will have an inactive Vivax and you, one of you will go against me and say that I am mafia and try to convice GB and the other town that I am the bad guy. Night actions at the end of the day can only be useful if we lynch the right person tonight. Mafia can easily fake claim something like “Hey I checked Monadel he is town” and be true so You are sold, it doesnt matter if I ended up checking Vivax and I got a red check on him. This is an hypotetical scenario.
- cop
@GB
It actually matters but I don't want to talk about this and help mafia figuring out how to overcome the strategy.
You guys HAVE to check the same person tonight. And I vote for Vivax.
On September 21 2020 05:10 GlowingBear wrote: You know what we could do, if you want to?
Both Shockey and N4 checks Vivax N1 and only reveal their checks D2 as rayn has proposed before. This will tell a lot about who is mafia.
We no lynch today, they both check Vivax and come back with their reveal.
Can we all agree on that?
How is that different that the fake claim check she did on you? We know N4 is going to claim vivax is mafia since she’s mafia along with her team mate.
And what if you come back with a red check on Vivax too? Maybe they are together.
On September 21 2020 04:53 ShoCkeyy wrote: I also don’t mind USING my time to be able to continue building a case on yourself and Gb. Unlike you who and GB who are both so urgent to vote some one out.
It's not about being urgent, is about not wanting to waste my time. I've made my mind about you but I'm still open to discuss. I've directed questions to you twice and you don't answer. You also aren't really worried about trying to solve everyone out, you've just assumed I'm mafia because I'm voting you, which is the easiest way to play as scum. Not in a single moment you've thought that I could be tunneled town. This is because you WANT me to be mafia, not that you actually believe I'm mafia. It fits your agenda perfectly. It's harder to fake the reconsideration of people's opinion. It's easier for mafia to just "see town, they want to lynch me, therefore, they are scum".
N4 is having the exact opposite behavior. They are here talking about almost everything to sort people out. If you are the real cop, why aren't you: (i) voting your scumread, (ii)figuring out who should be checked later, (iii)organizing yourself with the rest of the townies?
I'm sorry, but when you're town, if you have confirmed mafia on your aim, you don't advocate for a no lynch. It's simple as that.
I’ve already spoke with the rest of the townies. I don’t need to discuss who I’m checking, only mafia would like to know who I’m checking. Even town Rayn said not to discuss that, and you’re here asking me to tell you, are you crazy? I already said I have time to vote, I don’t need to place my vote right now, unlike you and N4 who both were quick to vote.
If you would read my posts, I’ve literally discussed on N0 what N4 is discussing today. She’s literally just reposting me. I already solved the game N0 and now you and your team mate are headstrong to vote me out. Crazy.
I haven't read the game too closely since friday night, simply because I can't. But again, there are unanswered questions from you. :/
If Vivax is town and Monadel is the scum partner is obvious they are going to say that Vivax is green, I’ll get the same check and it is going to be again a long frustrating day discussing. Shockey’s has a partner that will follow him, We (me and ever) do not have a partner even if you believe us, there is a chance that you can change your mind.
If Vivax is mafia Shockey is going to say that he is town and I will get the red check, then the poor Monadel will be between a war of GB + 4 vs Shockey + Vivax
On September 21 2020 05:17 Number 4 wrote: Wait mmmmm
If Vivax is town and Monadel is the scum partner is obvious they are going to say that Vivax is green, I’ll get the same check and it is going to be again a long frustrating day discussing. Shockey’s has a partner that will follow him, We (me and ever) do not have a partner even if you believe us, there is a chance that you can change your mind.
If Vivax is mafia Shockey is going to say that he is town and I will get the red check, then the poor Monadel will be between a war of GB + 4 vs Shockey + Vivax
Which scenario looks good to you?
None, but we will have more information and that's what town is asking now.
On September 21 2020 05:17 Number 4 wrote: Wait mmmmm
If Vivax is town and Monadel is the scum partner is obvious they are going to say that Vivax is green, I’ll get the same check and it is going to be again a long frustrating day discussing. Shockey’s has a partner that will follow him, We (me and ever) do not have a partner even if you believe us, there is a chance that you can change your mind.
If Vivax is mafia Shockey is going to say that he is town and I will get the red check, then the poor Monadel will be between a war of GB + 4 vs Shockey + Vivax
Which scenario looks good to you?
None, but we will have more information and that's what town is asking now.
The level of frustration but understanding it from an ignorant town perspective.
It is like I post and I post and I post many reasons of why We are the real cop but it feels like meaningless paragraphs. It is not fun. Even if Shockey doesnt answer, creating the GB is mafia agenda, not listening to rayn plan, 3 damn people have said his posts sound robotic, aghhh.
I wish Vivax was here at least GB and damdred would get information and discuss about plays and metas and would be easier for the ignorant townies who to believe and what not besides the cops.
Btw with ignorant town I mean that you lack the information the cop has, not that you the players are ignorant.
The level of frustration but understanding it from an ignorant town perspective.
It is like I post and I post and I post many reasons of why We are the real cop but it feels like meaningless paragraphs. It is not fun. Even if Shockey doesnt answer, creating the GB is mafia agenda, not listening to rayn plan, 3 damn people have said his posts sound robotic, aghhh.
So hard to be a town cop this game.
Game is a bit auto for me. I'll probably post a case on Shockey tomorrow but for now cba
I'll have better internet connection tomorrow so I'll be able to catch up properly, but I don't think we have relevant new information.
Do you blame them? We cant do anything if people like Vivax dont post which is the only way I think we can get info, or putting pressure on shockey and me. - cop
On September 19 2020 11:51 Monadel wrote: shockey if GB wasn't an option who do you think is the second mafia
This depends if no one counter claims damdred. There’s still time, there’s a possibility you may also be the doctor but don’t want to claim yet. But seeing no one has so far, ill leave damdred out, and would essentially leave you and Vivax. Vivax is known to afk as of late as town and mafia so he’s just a hard read in this current climate, which left you. But as of lately I feel that you’re asking the right questions. I definitely think at this point you’re more townie than Vivax unless vivax can show me he’s town. So if it wasn’t GB, it’s possibly Vivax.
However I’m headstrong right now the two mafia players are GB and Number 4 since they’re really gunning for me to be voted out instantly. No sane town is that quick to vote. I like using my time to solve things. Time is of the essence, I don’t like throwing it away unlike GB and Number 4, which has been very anti town.
On September 21 2020 21:02 Number 4 wrote: Do you blame them? We cant do anything if people like Vivax dont post which is the only way I think we can get info, or putting pressure on shockey and me. - cop
I will blame everyone who keeps postponing my sweet dopamine of getting a flip reveal.
1) Extremely logical and well thought claim. Why is this mafia: Claims that comes from mafia usually comes from a well devised plan with an agenda behind it. It is usually calculated and comes from a person who has perfect information. On the other hand, it's hard for mafia to blend in with genuine posts because they have perfect information and, with that, they have to fake every single post. This will make it sound robotic, generic, over cautious. This is what it sounds here:
On September 18 2020 04:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay so much for the confusion, just google number four + klaus + ben. I had my laughs :D
Let's play mafia. Monadel do you think anything sticks out as fishy atm?
No I don't.
I think what Glowingbear is saying is an unescessary over explanation on "the cop should claim" but I dont think it makes him mafia
Why?
Actually I agree. The cop gets n0 check then they need do claim.. 5v2 we get a red check for the cop is a good trade. I think cop shouldn't claim until d2 though.
Rayn why push for a cop claim n0?
To be fair I like the idea of having cop claiming n0 so the doctor knows who to protect. It either forces mafia to fakeclaim or doctor hunt. They will have 25% chance of hitting doctor while we guarantee we have a cop with a check day1.
The problem is when we don't have a clear claim and the doctor can't find out who the cop is because they "assume" it's someone else. This only helps mafia.
I was about to ask for more reasons why cop should claim N0, but I guess, it just needs to be done, and I really prefer town winning if that's the case here. I really want to trust Rayn and yourself GB for this claim, and really hope that I'm doing the right thing by doing so.
Hi. I'm finally a blue role (cop here [not copcake]) in one of Hapa's games. Who should I check on my N0 action? I was thinking of Monadel since he's new or Number4 since it's a hydra role.
On September 18 2020 04:13 GlowingBear wrote: [quote]
Wait, Copcake?
I am eversince.
And I'm inevitable
Good!
Now tell me sme of your reads?
^^
Rayn mafia Damdy meh You and CopCake detectives forever. Who can it be now? Monadel newbie on the forums, may be a bit intimidated to post more, but for now meh. Still waiting Vivax to own the game once more
I don't think m!Ryan here. Care to talk about it? -ES
Sure, Ben!
I don't like his opening while forcing people to say if they're the cop or not. Just ask for the cop to claim and move on? Also, if I got it right (I might have interpreted it wrong) if I said I was the cop he could think I was mafia fakeclaiming. If he thinks cop claiming is 100% the best option for town, why would I be mafia fakeclaiming?
Mafia can't fake claim n0? That's suicide. Oh you claim n0? We lynch into the two.
-ES
no its not.
Claim cop. See flip. Lynch who's wrong? Or am I being stupid? If mafia fake claims and doc saves cop and we have green flip then I'm 100% sure that makes them scum.
Interested in discussion. Being slowly convinced by rayn that the cop should claim.
On September 18 2020 05:25 Number 4 wrote: Ok. Let us end this.
Shock start talking .
Reacted to the fake claim cautiously.
On September 18 2020 05:39 Number 4 wrote: How claiming cop is important for mafia.
For mafia is not important, it is for town so it can be protected by the doctor. Mafia can’t give shit about it if the cop claims or not, they are going to kill someone anyways at night (more likely with the claim).
Idk if I explained it right.
Still not understanding how mafia could benefit from the claim, which explains why Number4 doesn't instantly jump on Shockey's neck ("fakeclaiming is suicide, mafia needs to survive, ergo, mafia probably won't fakeclaim, ergo, Shockey might be town trying to pull a plan")
On September 18 2020 05:56 Number 4 wrote: Ok, Eversince and me agreed to do this. We are the cop. Shockey’s claim is bullshit.
I was thinking in playing a little bit and do not claim, then when I read GB’s post about the 5v2 let me realize that if Shockey is mafia fake claiming then we are screwed since we need the protection of the doctor now because ever asked shockey to talk in two posts so that is kinda an out.
I honestly think GB is mafia, and that is the check I sent btw.
So that is all.
Finally, the claim. You can follow their logic easily, the claim is to the point: "I'm the cop, Shockey's claim is bullshit", and a little explanation.
In conclusion: although Number4 is a hydra, you can clearly follow their stream of reasoning until they reach the decision of claiming cop. The same can't be said about Shockey.
2) Rayn's check / not following with the plan of simultaneous check reveal Why is this mafia: if you need to fake a check on someone, you will either: (i)have to call a townie town, (ii) have to call your scum mate town, any other option is suicide. And any of these options may compromise you, especially when you had Rayn creating a plan where both cops reveals their check simultaneously. It's easier to decide who you're going to shoot and then claiming you had a check on the flipped townie. This way, you don't have much work of creating a more fake scenarios that you have to convince town. Also, shockey's check makes NO SENSE under his perspective because with so many "nulls", Shockey would NEVER check Rayn. See these posts: + Show Spoiler +
On September 18 2020 07:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: Now i am gonna be interested in who YOU are gonna check Shockeyy?
Possibly Vivax just cause him and I have had our quarrels in the past few games, or Dadred only cause that fucker was mafia last game... and I was fooled.
He was afraid of Vivax AND Damdred because they got him fooled, so it would make sense to check these guys.
On September 18 2020 07:10 Number 4 wrote: [quote]
Took us 4 hours? Hooray hun!
If it was a 30 player game i would totally be lynching you two for you bullshit nonsense that doesnt even make any sense ever.....
Yeah but most of the real claims are a bit clunky and illogical. It felt more and more that they were telling the truth and Shockey wasn't really invested in hunting.
What the fuck are you guys smoking???? I'm invested... I'm literally checking players outside of the person who counter claimed me. It's N0, and I have the best action to help finding mafia. Now town is going to decide I'm mafia because Dadred said I looked more natural? Where the hell is the logic in that.
On September 18 2020 05:10 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On September 18 2020 05:02 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:52 Number 4 wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:30 Monadel wrote: [quote]
No I don't.
I think what Glowingbear is saying is an unescessary over explanation on "the cop should claim" but I dont think it makes him mafia
Why?
Actually I agree. The cop gets n0 check then they need do claim.. 5v2 we get a red check for the cop is a good trade. I think cop shouldn't claim until d2 though.
Rayn why push for a cop claim n0?
To be fair I like the idea of having cop claiming n0 so the doctor knows who to protect. It either forces mafia to fakeclaim or doctor hunt. They will have 25% chance of hitting doctor while we guarantee we have a cop with a check day1.
The problem is when we don't have a clear claim and the doctor can't find out who the cop is because they "assume" it's someone else. This only helps mafia.
I was about to ask for more reasons why cop should claim N0, but I guess, it just needs to be done, and I really prefer town winning if that's the case here. I really want to trust Rayn and yourself GB for this claim, and really hope that I'm doing the right thing by doing so.
Hi. I'm finally a blue role (cop here [not copcake]) in one of Hapa's games. Who should I check on my N0 action? I was thinking of Monadel since he's new or Number4 since it's a hydra role.
This is the most artificial shit i have ever heard, sorry,
Did you even see the timeline? Can you explain why then N4 decided to counter claim me after I said I would check her?
Shockey I don't think you will convince rayn.
May I ask you to post your stream of thoughts when looking at the thread? When did you start reading, what did you think of posts at that time, etc.
I started reading 10 minutes before posting my claim. I literally followed the advice of you and Rayn because I also saw it's in the best interest of town. Number 4 didn't even want to "claim" until they saw I was gunning for them at night check.
Ok, got it and I understand why would you, as cop, take the advice. But I want to understand what did you think of people's alignment at that time. I mean, one thing is to take and advice. One thing is to be convince that the active people are townie.
I never said I was convinced you're both town, I just trust you both more than other players due to knowing you're both strong town players either way. I'm convinced Number 4 is mafia. Now I just have to go through my check lists. I posted I wanted to check the least active players because based on the past games, every mafia player has been AFK as fuck.
SEVERAL times he says he has no reason to suspect me or rayn, and this makes it more clear, because (i) he says he trust us MORE than the other townies and (ii) this was AFTER I've explained to him that rayn wasn't calling Shockey mafia because one of Dadred's posts, rayn was calling DADRED mafia because of Shockey. And Shockey seemed to understand this and to be ok with this. But then, near EoN...
On September 19 2020 03:23 GlowingBear wrote: @Shockeyy, are you there? I would love to know your reads before the night ends.
Mafia Obviously Cop/Ever (Number 4)
Scum lean Monadel - due to his questioning of me yesterday, need more posts from him, but he's leaning more null for me.
Null Rayn - I switched him from town ready because he's easy to flip flop reads from the look of it especially after asking for Cop to claim, then randomly decides I'm mafia cause Damdred said he liked my claim more lol... Vivax - I'm still on the fence with Vivax, but he's leaning more town. I need to speak with him more.
Slight Town Damdred - I think he was generally interested in the game in the beginning. Idk what he's up to now. But I liked his posting when he was talking to Rayn.
Town GB
He tells a lie about rayn again, while dropping him to null. Again, he did trust rayn more than Monadel and Vivax. Monadel is a goddamn scum lean. So why checking rayn over those two guys?
3) No interest in solving the game / resorts on WIFOM Every post from Shockey follows one of the following fashions: (i) it's just him responding N4's posts saying how mafia they are, (ii) it's him answering posts that has his name on it, (iii) it's him trying to WIFOM town with night kill conspiracies or how N4 and I are mafia together. There isn't a single post where he actually tries to investigate people in order to further understand their alignments, he doesn't react to new information as it means more was to solving the game. He reacts to posts that only follow his agenda of surviving. Not a single time after I voted him he thought I could be town very convinced and tunneled. And I was his top town n0. It's a common mafia reaction to just engage in conflict with his accusers in order to discredit their behavior. That's what is happening here.
1) Extremely logical and well thought claim. Why is this mafia: Claims that comes from mafia usually comes from a well devised plan with an agenda behind it. It is usually calculated and comes from a person who has perfect information. On the other hand, it's hard for mafia to blend in with genuine posts because they have perfect information and, with that, they have to fake every single post. This will make it sound robotic, generic, over cautious. This is what it sounds here:
On September 18 2020 04:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay so much for the confusion, just google number four + klaus + ben. I had my laughs :D
Let's play mafia. Monadel do you think anything sticks out as fishy atm?
No I don't.
I think what Glowingbear is saying is an unescessary over explanation on "the cop should claim" but I dont think it makes him mafia
Why?
Actually I agree. The cop gets n0 check then they need do claim.. 5v2 we get a red check for the cop is a good trade. I think cop shouldn't claim until d2 though.
Rayn why push for a cop claim n0?
To be fair I like the idea of having cop claiming n0 so the doctor knows who to protect. It either forces mafia to fakeclaim or doctor hunt. They will have 25% chance of hitting doctor while we guarantee we have a cop with a check day1.
The problem is when we don't have a clear claim and the doctor can't find out who the cop is because they "assume" it's someone else. This only helps mafia.
I was about to ask for more reasons why cop should claim N0, but I guess, it just needs to be done, and I really prefer town winning if that's the case here. I really want to trust Rayn and yourself GB for this claim, and really hope that I'm doing the right thing by doing so.
Hi. I'm finally a blue role (cop here [not copcake]) in one of Hapa's games. Who should I check on my N0 action? I was thinking of Monadel since he's new or Number4 since it's a hydra role.
On September 18 2020 04:13 GlowingBear wrote: [quote]
Wait, Copcake?
I am eversince.
And I'm inevitable
Good!
Now tell me sme of your reads?
^^
Rayn mafia Damdy meh You and CopCake detectives forever. Who can it be now? Monadel newbie on the forums, may be a bit intimidated to post more, but for now meh. Still waiting Vivax to own the game once more
I don't think m!Ryan here. Care to talk about it? -ES
Sure, Ben!
I don't like his opening while forcing people to say if they're the cop or not. Just ask for the cop to claim and move on? Also, if I got it right (I might have interpreted it wrong) if I said I was the cop he could think I was mafia fakeclaiming. If he thinks cop claiming is 100% the best option for town, why would I be mafia fakeclaiming?
Mafia can't fake claim n0? That's suicide. Oh you claim n0? We lynch into the two.
-ES
no its not.
Claim cop. See flip. Lynch who's wrong? Or am I being stupid? If mafia fake claims and doc saves cop and we have green flip then I'm 100% sure that makes them scum.
Interested in discussion. Being slowly convinced by rayn that the cop should claim.
On September 18 2020 05:25 Number 4 wrote: Ok. Let us end this.
Shock start talking .
Reacted to the fake claim cautiously.
On September 18 2020 05:39 Number 4 wrote: How claiming cop is important for mafia.
For mafia is not important, it is for town so it can be protected by the doctor. Mafia can’t give shit about it if the cop claims or not, they are going to kill someone anyways at night (more likely with the claim).
Idk if I explained it right.
Still not understanding how mafia could benefit from the claim, which explains why Number4 doesn't instantly jump on Shockey's neck ("fakeclaiming is suicide, mafia needs to survive, ergo, mafia probably won't fakeclaim, ergo, Shockey might be town trying to pull a plan")
On September 18 2020 05:56 Number 4 wrote: Ok, Eversince and me agreed to do this. We are the cop. Shockey’s claim is bullshit.
I was thinking in playing a little bit and do not claim, then when I read GB’s post about the 5v2 let me realize that if Shockey is mafia fake claiming then we are screwed since we need the protection of the doctor now because ever asked shockey to talk in two posts so that is kinda an out.
I honestly think GB is mafia, and that is the check I sent btw.
So that is all.
Finally, the claim. You can follow their logic easily, the claim is to the point: "I'm the cop, Shockey's claim is bullshit", and a little explanation.
In conclusion: although Number4 is a hydra, you can clearly follow their stream of reasoning until they reach the decision of claiming cop. The same can't be said about Shockey.
2) Rayn's check / not following with the plan of simultaneous check reveal Why is this mafia: if you need to fake a check on someone, you will either: (i)have to call a townie town, (ii) have to call your scum mate town, any other option is suicide. And any of these options may compromise you, especially when you had Rayn creating a plan where both cops reveals their check simultaneously. It's easier to decide who you're going to shoot and then claiming you had a check on the flipped townie. This way, you don't have much work of creating a more fake scenarios that you have to convince town. Also, shockey's check makes NO SENSE under his perspective because with so many "nulls", Shockey would NEVER check Rayn. See these posts: + Show Spoiler +
On September 18 2020 07:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: Now i am gonna be interested in who YOU are gonna check Shockeyy?
Possibly Vivax just cause him and I have had our quarrels in the past few games, or Dadred only cause that fucker was mafia last game... and I was fooled.
He was afraid of Vivax AND Damdred because they got him fooled, so it would make sense to check these guys.
On September 18 2020 07:10 Number 4 wrote: [quote]
Took us 4 hours? Hooray hun!
If it was a 30 player game i would totally be lynching you two for you bullshit nonsense that doesnt even make any sense ever.....
Yeah but most of the real claims are a bit clunky and illogical. It felt more and more that they were telling the truth and Shockey wasn't really invested in hunting.
What the fuck are you guys smoking???? I'm invested... I'm literally checking players outside of the person who counter claimed me. It's N0, and I have the best action to help finding mafia. Now town is going to decide I'm mafia because Dadred said I looked more natural? Where the hell is the logic in that.
On September 18 2020 05:10 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On September 18 2020 05:02 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:52 Number 4 wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:30 Monadel wrote: [quote]
No I don't.
I think what Glowingbear is saying is an unescessary over explanation on "the cop should claim" but I dont think it makes him mafia
Why?
Actually I agree. The cop gets n0 check then they need do claim.. 5v2 we get a red check for the cop is a good trade. I think cop shouldn't claim until d2 though.
Rayn why push for a cop claim n0?
To be fair I like the idea of having cop claiming n0 so the doctor knows who to protect. It either forces mafia to fakeclaim or doctor hunt. They will have 25% chance of hitting doctor while we guarantee we have a cop with a check day1.
The problem is when we don't have a clear claim and the doctor can't find out who the cop is because they "assume" it's someone else. This only helps mafia.
I was about to ask for more reasons why cop should claim N0, but I guess, it just needs to be done, and I really prefer town winning if that's the case here. I really want to trust Rayn and yourself GB for this claim, and really hope that I'm doing the right thing by doing so.
Hi. I'm finally a blue role (cop here [not copcake]) in one of Hapa's games. Who should I check on my N0 action? I was thinking of Monadel since he's new or Number4 since it's a hydra role.
This is the most artificial shit i have ever heard, sorry,
Did you even see the timeline? Can you explain why then N4 decided to counter claim me after I said I would check her?
Shockey I don't think you will convince rayn.
May I ask you to post your stream of thoughts when looking at the thread? When did you start reading, what did you think of posts at that time, etc.
I started reading 10 minutes before posting my claim. I literally followed the advice of you and Rayn because I also saw it's in the best interest of town. Number 4 didn't even want to "claim" until they saw I was gunning for them at night check.
Ok, got it and I understand why would you, as cop, take the advice. But I want to understand what did you think of people's alignment at that time. I mean, one thing is to take and advice. One thing is to be convince that the active people are townie.
I never said I was convinced you're both town, I just trust you both more than other players due to knowing you're both strong town players either way. I'm convinced Number 4 is mafia. Now I just have to go through my check lists. I posted I wanted to check the least active players because based on the past games, every mafia player has been AFK as fuck.
SEVERAL times he says he has no reason to suspect me or rayn, and this makes it more clear, because (i) he says he trust us MORE than the other townies and (ii) this was AFTER I've explained to him that rayn wasn't calling Shockey mafia because one of Dadred's posts, rayn was calling DADRED mafia because of Shockey. And Shockey seemed to understand this and to be ok with this. But then, near EoN...
On September 19 2020 03:23 GlowingBear wrote: @Shockeyy, are you there? I would love to know your reads before the night ends.
Mafia Obviously Cop/Ever (Number 4)
Scum lean Monadel - due to his questioning of me yesterday, need more posts from him, but he's leaning more null for me.
Null Rayn - I switched him from town ready because he's easy to flip flop reads from the look of it especially after asking for Cop to claim, then randomly decides I'm mafia cause Damdred said he liked my claim more lol... Vivax - I'm still on the fence with Vivax, but he's leaning more town. I need to speak with him more.
Slight Town Damdred - I think he was generally interested in the game in the beginning. Idk what he's up to now. But I liked his posting when he was talking to Rayn.
Town GB
He tells a lie about rayn again, while dropping him to null. Again, he did trust rayn more than Monadel and Vivax. Monadel is a goddamn scum lean. So why checking rayn over those two guys?
3) No interest in solving the game / resorts on WIFOM Every post from Shockey follows one of the following fashions: (i) it's just him responding N4's posts saying how mafia they are, (ii) it's him answering posts that has his name on it, (iii) it's him trying to WIFOM town with night kill conspiracies or how N4 and I are mafia together. There isn't a single post where he actually tries to investigate people in order to further understand their alignments, he doesn't react to new information as it means more was to solving the game. He reacts to posts that only follow his agenda of surviving. Not a single time after I voted him he thought I could be town very convinced and tunneled. And I was his top town n0. It's a common mafia reaction to just engage in conflict with his accusers in order to discredit their behavior. That's what is happening here.
Monadel, sometimes as a player you need to gamble it even if you are not “100%” sure. We have presented some cases.
Rayn GB Damred And our tiring self (4)
There are many many reasons why shockey is mafia besides the one GB has said, I have quoted some stuff that doesnt make sense (He saying we are mafia because we didnt check him, here he implies he knows we can check), blue hunting for the doctor (he is not sure is damred), etc.
Can we be lying and not be the cop? Yes is posible but there is so so so much evidence that implies is shockey.
The number of post since last time I was here is depressing. Town failing to consolidate on scum is more depressing. The evidence points directly at shock.
1) Extremely logical and well thought claim. Why is this mafia: Claims that comes from mafia usually comes from a well devised plan with an agenda behind it. It is usually calculated and comes from a person who has perfect information. On the other hand, it's hard for mafia to blend in with genuine posts because they have perfect information and, with that, they have to fake every single post. This will make it sound robotic, generic, over cautious. This is what it sounds here:
On September 18 2020 04:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay so much for the confusion, just google number four + klaus + ben. I had my laughs :D
Let's play mafia. Monadel do you think anything sticks out as fishy atm?
No I don't.
I think what Glowingbear is saying is an unescessary over explanation on "the cop should claim" but I dont think it makes him mafia
Why?
Actually I agree. The cop gets n0 check then they need do claim.. 5v2 we get a red check for the cop is a good trade. I think cop shouldn't claim until d2 though.
Rayn why push for a cop claim n0?
To be fair I like the idea of having cop claiming n0 so the doctor knows who to protect. It either forces mafia to fakeclaim or doctor hunt. They will have 25% chance of hitting doctor while we guarantee we have a cop with a check day1.
The problem is when we don't have a clear claim and the doctor can't find out who the cop is because they "assume" it's someone else. This only helps mafia.
I was about to ask for more reasons why cop should claim N0, but I guess, it just needs to be done, and I really prefer town winning if that's the case here. I really want to trust Rayn and yourself GB for this claim, and really hope that I'm doing the right thing by doing so.
Hi. I'm finally a blue role (cop here [not copcake]) in one of Hapa's games. Who should I check on my N0 action? I was thinking of Monadel since he's new or Number4 since it's a hydra role.
On September 18 2020 04:13 GlowingBear wrote: [quote]
Wait, Copcake?
I am eversince.
And I'm inevitable
Good!
Now tell me sme of your reads?
^^
Rayn mafia Damdy meh You and CopCake detectives forever. Who can it be now? Monadel newbie on the forums, may be a bit intimidated to post more, but for now meh. Still waiting Vivax to own the game once more
I don't think m!Ryan here. Care to talk about it? -ES
Sure, Ben!
I don't like his opening while forcing people to say if they're the cop or not. Just ask for the cop to claim and move on? Also, if I got it right (I might have interpreted it wrong) if I said I was the cop he could think I was mafia fakeclaiming. If he thinks cop claiming is 100% the best option for town, why would I be mafia fakeclaiming?
Mafia can't fake claim n0? That's suicide. Oh you claim n0? We lynch into the two.
-ES
no its not.
Claim cop. See flip. Lynch who's wrong? Or am I being stupid? If mafia fake claims and doc saves cop and we have green flip then I'm 100% sure that makes them scum.
Interested in discussion. Being slowly convinced by rayn that the cop should claim.
On September 18 2020 05:25 Number 4 wrote: Ok. Let us end this.
Shock start talking .
Reacted to the fake claim cautiously.
On September 18 2020 05:39 Number 4 wrote: How claiming cop is important for mafia.
For mafia is not important, it is for town so it can be protected by the doctor. Mafia can’t give shit about it if the cop claims or not, they are going to kill someone anyways at night (more likely with the claim).
Idk if I explained it right.
Still not understanding how mafia could benefit from the claim, which explains why Number4 doesn't instantly jump on Shockey's neck ("fakeclaiming is suicide, mafia needs to survive, ergo, mafia probably won't fakeclaim, ergo, Shockey might be town trying to pull a plan")
On September 18 2020 05:56 Number 4 wrote: Ok, Eversince and me agreed to do this. We are the cop. Shockey’s claim is bullshit.
I was thinking in playing a little bit and do not claim, then when I read GB’s post about the 5v2 let me realize that if Shockey is mafia fake claiming then we are screwed since we need the protection of the doctor now because ever asked shockey to talk in two posts so that is kinda an out.
I honestly think GB is mafia, and that is the check I sent btw.
So that is all.
Finally, the claim. You can follow their logic easily, the claim is to the point: "I'm the cop, Shockey's claim is bullshit", and a little explanation.
In conclusion: although Number4 is a hydra, you can clearly follow their stream of reasoning until they reach the decision of claiming cop. The same can't be said about Shockey.
2) Rayn's check / not following with the plan of simultaneous check reveal Why is this mafia: if you need to fake a check on someone, you will either: (i)have to call a townie town, (ii) have to call your scum mate town, any other option is suicide. And any of these options may compromise you, especially when you had Rayn creating a plan where both cops reveals their check simultaneously. It's easier to decide who you're going to shoot and then claiming you had a check on the flipped townie. This way, you don't have much work of creating a more fake scenarios that you have to convince town. Also, shockey's check makes NO SENSE under his perspective because with so many "nulls", Shockey would NEVER check Rayn. See these posts: + Show Spoiler +
On September 18 2020 07:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: Now i am gonna be interested in who YOU are gonna check Shockeyy?
Possibly Vivax just cause him and I have had our quarrels in the past few games, or Dadred only cause that fucker was mafia last game... and I was fooled.
He was afraid of Vivax AND Damdred because they got him fooled, so it would make sense to check these guys.
On September 18 2020 07:10 Number 4 wrote: [quote]
Took us 4 hours? Hooray hun!
If it was a 30 player game i would totally be lynching you two for you bullshit nonsense that doesnt even make any sense ever.....
Yeah but most of the real claims are a bit clunky and illogical. It felt more and more that they were telling the truth and Shockey wasn't really invested in hunting.
What the fuck are you guys smoking???? I'm invested... I'm literally checking players outside of the person who counter claimed me. It's N0, and I have the best action to help finding mafia. Now town is going to decide I'm mafia because Dadred said I looked more natural? Where the hell is the logic in that.
On September 18 2020 05:10 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On September 18 2020 05:02 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:52 Number 4 wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:30 Monadel wrote: [quote]
No I don't.
I think what Glowingbear is saying is an unescessary over explanation on "the cop should claim" but I dont think it makes him mafia
Why?
Actually I agree. The cop gets n0 check then they need do claim.. 5v2 we get a red check for the cop is a good trade. I think cop shouldn't claim until d2 though.
Rayn why push for a cop claim n0?
To be fair I like the idea of having cop claiming n0 so the doctor knows who to protect. It either forces mafia to fakeclaim or doctor hunt. They will have 25% chance of hitting doctor while we guarantee we have a cop with a check day1.
The problem is when we don't have a clear claim and the doctor can't find out who the cop is because they "assume" it's someone else. This only helps mafia.
I was about to ask for more reasons why cop should claim N0, but I guess, it just needs to be done, and I really prefer town winning if that's the case here. I really want to trust Rayn and yourself GB for this claim, and really hope that I'm doing the right thing by doing so.
Hi. I'm finally a blue role (cop here [not copcake]) in one of Hapa's games. Who should I check on my N0 action? I was thinking of Monadel since he's new or Number4 since it's a hydra role.
This is the most artificial shit i have ever heard, sorry,
Did you even see the timeline? Can you explain why then N4 decided to counter claim me after I said I would check her?
Shockey I don't think you will convince rayn.
May I ask you to post your stream of thoughts when looking at the thread? When did you start reading, what did you think of posts at that time, etc.
I started reading 10 minutes before posting my claim. I literally followed the advice of you and Rayn because I also saw it's in the best interest of town. Number 4 didn't even want to "claim" until they saw I was gunning for them at night check.
Ok, got it and I understand why would you, as cop, take the advice. But I want to understand what did you think of people's alignment at that time. I mean, one thing is to take and advice. One thing is to be convince that the active people are townie.
I never said I was convinced you're both town, I just trust you both more than other players due to knowing you're both strong town players either way. I'm convinced Number 4 is mafia. Now I just have to go through my check lists. I posted I wanted to check the least active players because based on the past games, every mafia player has been AFK as fuck.
SEVERAL times he says he has no reason to suspect me or rayn, and this makes it more clear, because (i) he says he trust us MORE than the other townies and (ii) this was AFTER I've explained to him that rayn wasn't calling Shockey mafia because one of Dadred's posts, rayn was calling DADRED mafia because of Shockey. And Shockey seemed to understand this and to be ok with this. But then, near EoN...
On September 19 2020 03:23 GlowingBear wrote: @Shockeyy, are you there? I would love to know your reads before the night ends.
Mafia Obviously Cop/Ever (Number 4)
Scum lean Monadel - due to his questioning of me yesterday, need more posts from him, but he's leaning more null for me.
Null Rayn - I switched him from town ready because he's easy to flip flop reads from the look of it especially after asking for Cop to claim, then randomly decides I'm mafia cause Damdred said he liked my claim more lol... Vivax - I'm still on the fence with Vivax, but he's leaning more town. I need to speak with him more.
Slight Town Damdred - I think he was generally interested in the game in the beginning. Idk what he's up to now. But I liked his posting when he was talking to Rayn.
Town GB
He tells a lie about rayn again, while dropping him to null. Again, he did trust rayn more than Monadel and Vivax. Monadel is a goddamn scum lean. So why checking rayn over those two guys?
3) No interest in solving the game / resorts on WIFOM Every post from Shockey follows one of the following fashions: (i) it's just him responding N4's posts saying how mafia they are, (ii) it's him answering posts that has his name on it, (iii) it's him trying to WIFOM town with night kill conspiracies or how N4 and I are mafia together. There isn't a single post where he actually tries to investigate people in order to further understand their alignments, he doesn't react to new information as it means more was to solving the game. He reacts to posts that only follow his agenda of surviving. Not a single time after I voted him he thought I could be town very convinced and tunneled. And I was his top town n0. It's a common mafia reaction to just engage in conflict with his accusers in order to discredit their behavior. That's what is happening here.
I love how you had to make shit up to even make this post work. Anybody actually following the thread can tell I interacted with everyone. I only interact with yourself and N4 because you two are literally the only other players that are constantly talking. I don't need to voice any concerns with you two because I know both of you are mafia. It's literally in everyones face 2 mafia vs the 1 cop.
On September 22 2020 00:24 Number 4 wrote: Monadel, sometimes as a player you need to gamble it even if you are not “100%” sure. We have presented some cases.
Rayn GB Damred And our tiring self (4)
There are many many reasons why shockey is mafia besides the one GB has said, I have quoted some stuff that doesnt make sense (He saying we are mafia because we didnt check him, here he implies he knows we can check), blue hunting for the doctor (he is not sure is damred), etc.
[B]Can we be lying and not be the cop? Yes is posible but there is so so so much evidence that implies is shockey. [B] I invite you to vote and let town win.
The bolded is exactly reasons Lynch has to be between us. Else we waste the only lynches we have left have to hit mafia. Killing one now at least gives 1 extra. Come on town friends! Let's put this scum in the trees!
1) Extremely logical and well thought claim. Why is this mafia: Claims that comes from mafia usually comes from a well devised plan with an agenda behind it. It is usually calculated and comes from a person who has perfect information. On the other hand, it's hard for mafia to blend in with genuine posts because they have perfect information and, with that, they have to fake every single post. This will make it sound robotic, generic, over cautious. This is what it sounds here:
On September 18 2020 04:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay so much for the confusion, just google number four + klaus + ben. I had my laughs :D
Let's play mafia. Monadel do you think anything sticks out as fishy atm?
No I don't.
I think what Glowingbear is saying is an unescessary over explanation on "the cop should claim" but I dont think it makes him mafia
Why?
Actually I agree. The cop gets n0 check then they need do claim.. 5v2 we get a red check for the cop is a good trade. I think cop shouldn't claim until d2 though.
Rayn why push for a cop claim n0?
To be fair I like the idea of having cop claiming n0 so the doctor knows who to protect. It either forces mafia to fakeclaim or doctor hunt. They will have 25% chance of hitting doctor while we guarantee we have a cop with a check day1.
The problem is when we don't have a clear claim and the doctor can't find out who the cop is because they "assume" it's someone else. This only helps mafia.
I was about to ask for more reasons why cop should claim N0, but I guess, it just needs to be done, and I really prefer town winning if that's the case here. I really want to trust Rayn and yourself GB for this claim, and really hope that I'm doing the right thing by doing so.
Hi. I'm finally a blue role (cop here [not copcake]) in one of Hapa's games. Who should I check on my N0 action? I was thinking of Monadel since he's new or Number4 since it's a hydra role.
On September 18 2020 04:13 GlowingBear wrote: [quote]
Wait, Copcake?
I am eversince.
And I'm inevitable
Good!
Now tell me sme of your reads?
^^
Rayn mafia Damdy meh You and CopCake detectives forever. Who can it be now? Monadel newbie on the forums, may be a bit intimidated to post more, but for now meh. Still waiting Vivax to own the game once more
I don't think m!Ryan here. Care to talk about it? -ES
Sure, Ben!
I don't like his opening while forcing people to say if they're the cop or not. Just ask for the cop to claim and move on? Also, if I got it right (I might have interpreted it wrong) if I said I was the cop he could think I was mafia fakeclaiming. If he thinks cop claiming is 100% the best option for town, why would I be mafia fakeclaiming?
Mafia can't fake claim n0? That's suicide. Oh you claim n0? We lynch into the two.
-ES
no its not.
Claim cop. See flip. Lynch who's wrong? Or am I being stupid? If mafia fake claims and doc saves cop and we have green flip then I'm 100% sure that makes them scum.
Interested in discussion. Being slowly convinced by rayn that the cop should claim.
On September 18 2020 05:25 Number 4 wrote: Ok. Let us end this.
Shock start talking .
Reacted to the fake claim cautiously.
On September 18 2020 05:39 Number 4 wrote: How claiming cop is important for mafia.
For mafia is not important, it is for town so it can be protected by the doctor. Mafia can’t give shit about it if the cop claims or not, they are going to kill someone anyways at night (more likely with the claim).
Idk if I explained it right.
Still not understanding how mafia could benefit from the claim, which explains why Number4 doesn't instantly jump on Shockey's neck ("fakeclaiming is suicide, mafia needs to survive, ergo, mafia probably won't fakeclaim, ergo, Shockey might be town trying to pull a plan")
On September 18 2020 05:56 Number 4 wrote: Ok, Eversince and me agreed to do this. We are the cop. Shockey’s claim is bullshit.
I was thinking in playing a little bit and do not claim, then when I read GB’s post about the 5v2 let me realize that if Shockey is mafia fake claiming then we are screwed since we need the protection of the doctor now because ever asked shockey to talk in two posts so that is kinda an out.
I honestly think GB is mafia, and that is the check I sent btw.
So that is all.
Finally, the claim. You can follow their logic easily, the claim is to the point: "I'm the cop, Shockey's claim is bullshit", and a little explanation.
In conclusion: although Number4 is a hydra, you can clearly follow their stream of reasoning until they reach the decision of claiming cop. The same can't be said about Shockey.
2) Rayn's check / not following with the plan of simultaneous check reveal Why is this mafia: if you need to fake a check on someone, you will either: (i)have to call a townie town, (ii) have to call your scum mate town, any other option is suicide. And any of these options may compromise you, especially when you had Rayn creating a plan where both cops reveals their check simultaneously. It's easier to decide who you're going to shoot and then claiming you had a check on the flipped townie. This way, you don't have much work of creating a more fake scenarios that you have to convince town. Also, shockey's check makes NO SENSE under his perspective because with so many "nulls", Shockey would NEVER check Rayn. See these posts: + Show Spoiler +
On September 18 2020 07:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: Now i am gonna be interested in who YOU are gonna check Shockeyy?
Possibly Vivax just cause him and I have had our quarrels in the past few games, or Dadred only cause that fucker was mafia last game... and I was fooled.
He was afraid of Vivax AND Damdred because they got him fooled, so it would make sense to check these guys.
On September 18 2020 07:10 Number 4 wrote: [quote]
Took us 4 hours? Hooray hun!
If it was a 30 player game i would totally be lynching you two for you bullshit nonsense that doesnt even make any sense ever.....
Yeah but most of the real claims are a bit clunky and illogical. It felt more and more that they were telling the truth and Shockey wasn't really invested in hunting.
What the fuck are you guys smoking???? I'm invested... I'm literally checking players outside of the person who counter claimed me. It's N0, and I have the best action to help finding mafia. Now town is going to decide I'm mafia because Dadred said I looked more natural? Where the hell is the logic in that.
On September 18 2020 05:10 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On September 18 2020 05:02 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:52 Number 4 wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:30 Monadel wrote: [quote]
No I don't.
I think what Glowingbear is saying is an unescessary over explanation on "the cop should claim" but I dont think it makes him mafia
Why?
Actually I agree. The cop gets n0 check then they need do claim.. 5v2 we get a red check for the cop is a good trade. I think cop shouldn't claim until d2 though.
Rayn why push for a cop claim n0?
To be fair I like the idea of having cop claiming n0 so the doctor knows who to protect. It either forces mafia to fakeclaim or doctor hunt. They will have 25% chance of hitting doctor while we guarantee we have a cop with a check day1.
The problem is when we don't have a clear claim and the doctor can't find out who the cop is because they "assume" it's someone else. This only helps mafia.
I was about to ask for more reasons why cop should claim N0, but I guess, it just needs to be done, and I really prefer town winning if that's the case here. I really want to trust Rayn and yourself GB for this claim, and really hope that I'm doing the right thing by doing so.
Hi. I'm finally a blue role (cop here [not copcake]) in one of Hapa's games. Who should I check on my N0 action? I was thinking of Monadel since he's new or Number4 since it's a hydra role.
This is the most artificial shit i have ever heard, sorry,
Did you even see the timeline? Can you explain why then N4 decided to counter claim me after I said I would check her?
Shockey I don't think you will convince rayn.
May I ask you to post your stream of thoughts when looking at the thread? When did you start reading, what did you think of posts at that time, etc.
I started reading 10 minutes before posting my claim. I literally followed the advice of you and Rayn because I also saw it's in the best interest of town. Number 4 didn't even want to "claim" until they saw I was gunning for them at night check.
Ok, got it and I understand why would you, as cop, take the advice. But I want to understand what did you think of people's alignment at that time. I mean, one thing is to take and advice. One thing is to be convince that the active people are townie.
I never said I was convinced you're both town, I just trust you both more than other players due to knowing you're both strong town players either way. I'm convinced Number 4 is mafia. Now I just have to go through my check lists. I posted I wanted to check the least active players because based on the past games, every mafia player has been AFK as fuck.
SEVERAL times he says he has no reason to suspect me or rayn, and this makes it more clear, because (i) he says he trust us MORE than the other townies and (ii) this was AFTER I've explained to him that rayn wasn't calling Shockey mafia because one of Dadred's posts, rayn was calling DADRED mafia because of Shockey. And Shockey seemed to understand this and to be ok with this. But then, near EoN...
On September 19 2020 03:23 GlowingBear wrote: @Shockeyy, are you there? I would love to know your reads before the night ends.
Mafia Obviously Cop/Ever (Number 4)
Scum lean Monadel - due to his questioning of me yesterday, need more posts from him, but he's leaning more null for me.
Null Rayn - I switched him from town ready because he's easy to flip flop reads from the look of it especially after asking for Cop to claim, then randomly decides I'm mafia cause Damdred said he liked my claim more lol... Vivax - I'm still on the fence with Vivax, but he's leaning more town. I need to speak with him more.
Slight Town Damdred - I think he was generally interested in the game in the beginning. Idk what he's up to now. But I liked his posting when he was talking to Rayn.
Town GB
He tells a lie about rayn again, while dropping him to null. Again, he did trust rayn more than Monadel and Vivax. Monadel is a goddamn scum lean. So why checking rayn over those two guys?
3) No interest in solving the game / resorts on WIFOM Every post from Shockey follows one of the following fashions: (i) it's just him responding N4's posts saying how mafia they are, (ii) it's him answering posts that has his name on it, (iii) it's him trying to WIFOM town with night kill conspiracies or how N4 and I are mafia together. There isn't a single post where he actually tries to investigate people in order to further understand their alignments, he doesn't react to new information as it means more was to solving the game. He reacts to posts that only follow his agenda of surviving. Not a single time after I voted him he thought I could be town very convinced and tunneled. And I was his top town n0. It's a common mafia reaction to just engage in conflict with his accusers in order to discredit their behavior. That's what is happening here.
I love how you had to make shit up to even make this post work. Anybody actually following the thread can tell I interacted with everyone. I only interact with yourself and N4 because you two are literally the only other players that are constantly talking. I don't need to voice any concerns with you two because I know both of you are mafia. It's literally in everyones face 2 mafia vs the 1 cop.
Ok. Benefit of doubt. Why the fuck would ever not kill you then? In DC cop can die next night and win. Really? Hun this isn't my first time around the block.
1) Extremely logical and well thought claim. Why is this mafia: Claims that comes from mafia usually comes from a well devised plan with an agenda behind it. It is usually calculated and comes from a person who has perfect information. On the other hand, it's hard for mafia to blend in with genuine posts because they have perfect information and, with that, they have to fake every single post. This will make it sound robotic, generic, over cautious. This is what it sounds here:
On September 18 2020 04:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay so much for the confusion, just google number four + klaus + ben. I had my laughs :D
Let's play mafia. Monadel do you think anything sticks out as fishy atm?
No I don't.
I think what Glowingbear is saying is an unescessary over explanation on "the cop should claim" but I dont think it makes him mafia
Why?
Actually I agree. The cop gets n0 check then they need do claim.. 5v2 we get a red check for the cop is a good trade. I think cop shouldn't claim until d2 though.
Rayn why push for a cop claim n0?
To be fair I like the idea of having cop claiming n0 so the doctor knows who to protect. It either forces mafia to fakeclaim or doctor hunt. They will have 25% chance of hitting doctor while we guarantee we have a cop with a check day1.
The problem is when we don't have a clear claim and the doctor can't find out who the cop is because they "assume" it's someone else. This only helps mafia.
I was about to ask for more reasons why cop should claim N0, but I guess, it just needs to be done, and I really prefer town winning if that's the case here. I really want to trust Rayn and yourself GB for this claim, and really hope that I'm doing the right thing by doing so.
Hi. I'm finally a blue role (cop here [not copcake]) in one of Hapa's games. Who should I check on my N0 action? I was thinking of Monadel since he's new or Number4 since it's a hydra role.
On September 18 2020 04:13 GlowingBear wrote: [quote]
Wait, Copcake?
I am eversince.
And I'm inevitable
Good!
Now tell me sme of your reads?
^^
Rayn mafia Damdy meh You and CopCake detectives forever. Who can it be now? Monadel newbie on the forums, may be a bit intimidated to post more, but for now meh. Still waiting Vivax to own the game once more
I don't think m!Ryan here. Care to talk about it? -ES
Sure, Ben!
I don't like his opening while forcing people to say if they're the cop or not. Just ask for the cop to claim and move on? Also, if I got it right (I might have interpreted it wrong) if I said I was the cop he could think I was mafia fakeclaiming. If he thinks cop claiming is 100% the best option for town, why would I be mafia fakeclaiming?
Mafia can't fake claim n0? That's suicide. Oh you claim n0? We lynch into the two.
-ES
no its not.
Claim cop. See flip. Lynch who's wrong? Or am I being stupid? If mafia fake claims and doc saves cop and we have green flip then I'm 100% sure that makes them scum.
Interested in discussion. Being slowly convinced by rayn that the cop should claim.
On September 18 2020 05:25 Number 4 wrote: Ok. Let us end this.
Shock start talking .
Reacted to the fake claim cautiously.
On September 18 2020 05:39 Number 4 wrote: How claiming cop is important for mafia.
For mafia is not important, it is for town so it can be protected by the doctor. Mafia can’t give shit about it if the cop claims or not, they are going to kill someone anyways at night (more likely with the claim).
Idk if I explained it right.
Still not understanding how mafia could benefit from the claim, which explains why Number4 doesn't instantly jump on Shockey's neck ("fakeclaiming is suicide, mafia needs to survive, ergo, mafia probably won't fakeclaim, ergo, Shockey might be town trying to pull a plan")
On September 18 2020 05:56 Number 4 wrote: Ok, Eversince and me agreed to do this. We are the cop. Shockey’s claim is bullshit.
I was thinking in playing a little bit and do not claim, then when I read GB’s post about the 5v2 let me realize that if Shockey is mafia fake claiming then we are screwed since we need the protection of the doctor now because ever asked shockey to talk in two posts so that is kinda an out.
I honestly think GB is mafia, and that is the check I sent btw.
So that is all.
Finally, the claim. You can follow their logic easily, the claim is to the point: "I'm the cop, Shockey's claim is bullshit", and a little explanation.
In conclusion: although Number4 is a hydra, you can clearly follow their stream of reasoning until they reach the decision of claiming cop. The same can't be said about Shockey.
2) Rayn's check / not following with the plan of simultaneous check reveal Why is this mafia: if you need to fake a check on someone, you will either: (i)have to call a townie town, (ii) have to call your scum mate town, any other option is suicide. And any of these options may compromise you, especially when you had Rayn creating a plan where both cops reveals their check simultaneously. It's easier to decide who you're going to shoot and then claiming you had a check on the flipped townie. This way, you don't have much work of creating a more fake scenarios that you have to convince town. Also, shockey's check makes NO SENSE under his perspective because with so many "nulls", Shockey would NEVER check Rayn. See these posts: + Show Spoiler +
On September 18 2020 07:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: Now i am gonna be interested in who YOU are gonna check Shockeyy?
Possibly Vivax just cause him and I have had our quarrels in the past few games, or Dadred only cause that fucker was mafia last game... and I was fooled.
He was afraid of Vivax AND Damdred because they got him fooled, so it would make sense to check these guys.
On September 18 2020 07:10 Number 4 wrote: [quote]
Took us 4 hours? Hooray hun!
If it was a 30 player game i would totally be lynching you two for you bullshit nonsense that doesnt even make any sense ever.....
Yeah but most of the real claims are a bit clunky and illogical. It felt more and more that they were telling the truth and Shockey wasn't really invested in hunting.
What the fuck are you guys smoking???? I'm invested... I'm literally checking players outside of the person who counter claimed me. It's N0, and I have the best action to help finding mafia. Now town is going to decide I'm mafia because Dadred said I looked more natural? Where the hell is the logic in that.
On September 18 2020 05:10 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On September 18 2020 05:02 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:52 Number 4 wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:30 Monadel wrote: [quote]
No I don't.
I think what Glowingbear is saying is an unescessary over explanation on "the cop should claim" but I dont think it makes him mafia
Why?
Actually I agree. The cop gets n0 check then they need do claim.. 5v2 we get a red check for the cop is a good trade. I think cop shouldn't claim until d2 though.
Rayn why push for a cop claim n0?
To be fair I like the idea of having cop claiming n0 so the doctor knows who to protect. It either forces mafia to fakeclaim or doctor hunt. They will have 25% chance of hitting doctor while we guarantee we have a cop with a check day1.
The problem is when we don't have a clear claim and the doctor can't find out who the cop is because they "assume" it's someone else. This only helps mafia.
I was about to ask for more reasons why cop should claim N0, but I guess, it just needs to be done, and I really prefer town winning if that's the case here. I really want to trust Rayn and yourself GB for this claim, and really hope that I'm doing the right thing by doing so.
Hi. I'm finally a blue role (cop here [not copcake]) in one of Hapa's games. Who should I check on my N0 action? I was thinking of Monadel since he's new or Number4 since it's a hydra role.
This is the most artificial shit i have ever heard, sorry,
Did you even see the timeline? Can you explain why then N4 decided to counter claim me after I said I would check her?
Shockey I don't think you will convince rayn.
May I ask you to post your stream of thoughts when looking at the thread? When did you start reading, what did you think of posts at that time, etc.
I started reading 10 minutes before posting my claim. I literally followed the advice of you and Rayn because I also saw it's in the best interest of town. Number 4 didn't even want to "claim" until they saw I was gunning for them at night check.
Ok, got it and I understand why would you, as cop, take the advice. But I want to understand what did you think of people's alignment at that time. I mean, one thing is to take and advice. One thing is to be convince that the active people are townie.
I never said I was convinced you're both town, I just trust you both more than other players due to knowing you're both strong town players either way. I'm convinced Number 4 is mafia. Now I just have to go through my check lists. I posted I wanted to check the least active players because based on the past games, every mafia player has been AFK as fuck.
SEVERAL times he says he has no reason to suspect me or rayn, and this makes it more clear, because (i) he says he trust us MORE than the other townies and (ii) this was AFTER I've explained to him that rayn wasn't calling Shockey mafia because one of Dadred's posts, rayn was calling DADRED mafia because of Shockey. And Shockey seemed to understand this and to be ok with this. But then, near EoN...
On September 19 2020 03:23 GlowingBear wrote: @Shockeyy, are you there? I would love to know your reads before the night ends.
Mafia Obviously Cop/Ever (Number 4)
Scum lean Monadel - due to his questioning of me yesterday, need more posts from him, but he's leaning more null for me.
Null Rayn - I switched him from town ready because he's easy to flip flop reads from the look of it especially after asking for Cop to claim, then randomly decides I'm mafia cause Damdred said he liked my claim more lol... Vivax - I'm still on the fence with Vivax, but he's leaning more town. I need to speak with him more.
Slight Town Damdred - I think he was generally interested in the game in the beginning. Idk what he's up to now. But I liked his posting when he was talking to Rayn.
Town GB
He tells a lie about rayn again, while dropping him to null. Again, he did trust rayn more than Monadel and Vivax. Monadel is a goddamn scum lean. So why checking rayn over those two guys?
3) No interest in solving the game / resorts on WIFOM Every post from Shockey follows one of the following fashions: (i) it's just him responding N4's posts saying how mafia they are, (ii) it's him answering posts that has his name on it, (iii) it's him trying to WIFOM town with night kill conspiracies or how N4 and I are mafia together. There isn't a single post where he actually tries to investigate people in order to further understand their alignments, he doesn't react to new information as it means more was to solving the game. He reacts to posts that only follow his agenda of surviving. Not a single time after I voted him he thought I could be town very convinced and tunneled. And I was his top town n0. It's a common mafia reaction to just engage in conflict with his accusers in order to discredit their behavior. That's what is happening here.
I love how you had to make shit up to even make this post work. Anybody actually following the thread can tell I interacted with everyone. I only interact with yourself and N4 because you two are literally the only other players that are constantly talking. I don't need to voice any concerns with you two because I know both of you are mafia. It's literally in everyones face 2 mafia vs the 1 cop.
1) Extremely logical and well thought claim. Why is this mafia: Claims that comes from mafia usually comes from a well devised plan with an agenda behind it. It is usually calculated and comes from a person who has perfect information. On the other hand, it's hard for mafia to blend in with genuine posts because they have perfect information and, with that, they have to fake every single post. This will make it sound robotic, generic, over cautious. This is what it sounds here:
On September 18 2020 04:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay so much for the confusion, just google number four + klaus + ben. I had my laughs :D
Let's play mafia. Monadel do you think anything sticks out as fishy atm?
No I don't.
I think what Glowingbear is saying is an unescessary over explanation on "the cop should claim" but I dont think it makes him mafia
Why?
Actually I agree. The cop gets n0 check then they need do claim.. 5v2 we get a red check for the cop is a good trade. I think cop shouldn't claim until d2 though.
Rayn why push for a cop claim n0?
To be fair I like the idea of having cop claiming n0 so the doctor knows who to protect. It either forces mafia to fakeclaim or doctor hunt. They will have 25% chance of hitting doctor while we guarantee we have a cop with a check day1.
The problem is when we don't have a clear claim and the doctor can't find out who the cop is because they "assume" it's someone else. This only helps mafia.
I was about to ask for more reasons why cop should claim N0, but I guess, it just needs to be done, and I really prefer town winning if that's the case here. I really want to trust Rayn and yourself GB for this claim, and really hope that I'm doing the right thing by doing so.
Hi. I'm finally a blue role (cop here [not copcake]) in one of Hapa's games. Who should I check on my N0 action? I was thinking of Monadel since he's new or Number4 since it's a hydra role.
On September 18 2020 04:13 GlowingBear wrote: [quote]
Wait, Copcake?
I am eversince.
And I'm inevitable
Good!
Now tell me sme of your reads?
^^
Rayn mafia Damdy meh You and CopCake detectives forever. Who can it be now? Monadel newbie on the forums, may be a bit intimidated to post more, but for now meh. Still waiting Vivax to own the game once more
I don't think m!Ryan here. Care to talk about it? -ES
Sure, Ben!
I don't like his opening while forcing people to say if they're the cop or not. Just ask for the cop to claim and move on? Also, if I got it right (I might have interpreted it wrong) if I said I was the cop he could think I was mafia fakeclaiming. If he thinks cop claiming is 100% the best option for town, why would I be mafia fakeclaiming?
Mafia can't fake claim n0? That's suicide. Oh you claim n0? We lynch into the two.
-ES
no its not.
Claim cop. See flip. Lynch who's wrong? Or am I being stupid? If mafia fake claims and doc saves cop and we have green flip then I'm 100% sure that makes them scum.
Interested in discussion. Being slowly convinced by rayn that the cop should claim.
On September 18 2020 05:25 Number 4 wrote: Ok. Let us end this.
Shock start talking .
Reacted to the fake claim cautiously.
On September 18 2020 05:39 Number 4 wrote: How claiming cop is important for mafia.
For mafia is not important, it is for town so it can be protected by the doctor. Mafia can’t give shit about it if the cop claims or not, they are going to kill someone anyways at night (more likely with the claim).
Idk if I explained it right.
Still not understanding how mafia could benefit from the claim, which explains why Number4 doesn't instantly jump on Shockey's neck ("fakeclaiming is suicide, mafia needs to survive, ergo, mafia probably won't fakeclaim, ergo, Shockey might be town trying to pull a plan")
On September 18 2020 05:56 Number 4 wrote: Ok, Eversince and me agreed to do this. We are the cop. Shockey’s claim is bullshit.
I was thinking in playing a little bit and do not claim, then when I read GB’s post about the 5v2 let me realize that if Shockey is mafia fake claiming then we are screwed since we need the protection of the doctor now because ever asked shockey to talk in two posts so that is kinda an out.
I honestly think GB is mafia, and that is the check I sent btw.
So that is all.
Finally, the claim. You can follow their logic easily, the claim is to the point: "I'm the cop, Shockey's claim is bullshit", and a little explanation.
In conclusion: although Number4 is a hydra, you can clearly follow their stream of reasoning until they reach the decision of claiming cop. The same can't be said about Shockey.
2) Rayn's check / not following with the plan of simultaneous check reveal Why is this mafia: if you need to fake a check on someone, you will either: (i)have to call a townie town, (ii) have to call your scum mate town, any other option is suicide. And any of these options may compromise you, especially when you had Rayn creating a plan where both cops reveals their check simultaneously. It's easier to decide who you're going to shoot and then claiming you had a check on the flipped townie. This way, you don't have much work of creating a more fake scenarios that you have to convince town. Also, shockey's check makes NO SENSE under his perspective because with so many "nulls", Shockey would NEVER check Rayn. See these posts: + Show Spoiler +
On September 18 2020 07:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: Now i am gonna be interested in who YOU are gonna check Shockeyy?
Possibly Vivax just cause him and I have had our quarrels in the past few games, or Dadred only cause that fucker was mafia last game... and I was fooled.
He was afraid of Vivax AND Damdred because they got him fooled, so it would make sense to check these guys.
On September 18 2020 07:10 Number 4 wrote: [quote]
Took us 4 hours? Hooray hun!
If it was a 30 player game i would totally be lynching you two for you bullshit nonsense that doesnt even make any sense ever.....
Yeah but most of the real claims are a bit clunky and illogical. It felt more and more that they were telling the truth and Shockey wasn't really invested in hunting.
What the fuck are you guys smoking???? I'm invested... I'm literally checking players outside of the person who counter claimed me. It's N0, and I have the best action to help finding mafia. Now town is going to decide I'm mafia because Dadred said I looked more natural? Where the hell is the logic in that.
On September 18 2020 05:10 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On September 18 2020 05:02 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:52 Number 4 wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:30 Monadel wrote: [quote]
No I don't.
I think what Glowingbear is saying is an unescessary over explanation on "the cop should claim" but I dont think it makes him mafia
Why?
Actually I agree. The cop gets n0 check then they need do claim.. 5v2 we get a red check for the cop is a good trade. I think cop shouldn't claim until d2 though.
Rayn why push for a cop claim n0?
To be fair I like the idea of having cop claiming n0 so the doctor knows who to protect. It either forces mafia to fakeclaim or doctor hunt. They will have 25% chance of hitting doctor while we guarantee we have a cop with a check day1.
The problem is when we don't have a clear claim and the doctor can't find out who the cop is because they "assume" it's someone else. This only helps mafia.
I was about to ask for more reasons why cop should claim N0, but I guess, it just needs to be done, and I really prefer town winning if that's the case here. I really want to trust Rayn and yourself GB for this claim, and really hope that I'm doing the right thing by doing so.
Hi. I'm finally a blue role (cop here [not copcake]) in one of Hapa's games. Who should I check on my N0 action? I was thinking of Monadel since he's new or Number4 since it's a hydra role.
This is the most artificial shit i have ever heard, sorry,
Did you even see the timeline? Can you explain why then N4 decided to counter claim me after I said I would check her?
Shockey I don't think you will convince rayn.
May I ask you to post your stream of thoughts when looking at the thread? When did you start reading, what did you think of posts at that time, etc.
I started reading 10 minutes before posting my claim. I literally followed the advice of you and Rayn because I also saw it's in the best interest of town. Number 4 didn't even want to "claim" until they saw I was gunning for them at night check.
Ok, got it and I understand why would you, as cop, take the advice. But I want to understand what did you think of people's alignment at that time. I mean, one thing is to take and advice. One thing is to be convince that the active people are townie.
I never said I was convinced you're both town, I just trust you both more than other players due to knowing you're both strong town players either way. I'm convinced Number 4 is mafia. Now I just have to go through my check lists. I posted I wanted to check the least active players because based on the past games, every mafia player has been AFK as fuck.
SEVERAL times he says he has no reason to suspect me or rayn, and this makes it more clear, because (i) he says he trust us MORE than the other townies and (ii) this was AFTER I've explained to him that rayn wasn't calling Shockey mafia because one of Dadred's posts, rayn was calling DADRED mafia because of Shockey. And Shockey seemed to understand this and to be ok with this. But then, near EoN...
On September 19 2020 03:23 GlowingBear wrote: @Shockeyy, are you there? I would love to know your reads before the night ends.
Mafia Obviously Cop/Ever (Number 4)
Scum lean Monadel - due to his questioning of me yesterday, need more posts from him, but he's leaning more null for me.
Null Rayn - I switched him from town ready because he's easy to flip flop reads from the look of it especially after asking for Cop to claim, then randomly decides I'm mafia cause Damdred said he liked my claim more lol... Vivax - I'm still on the fence with Vivax, but he's leaning more town. I need to speak with him more.
Slight Town Damdred - I think he was generally interested in the game in the beginning. Idk what he's up to now. But I liked his posting when he was talking to Rayn.
Town GB
He tells a lie about rayn again, while dropping him to null. Again, he did trust rayn more than Monadel and Vivax. Monadel is a goddamn scum lean. So why checking rayn over those two guys?
3) No interest in solving the game / resorts on WIFOM Every post from Shockey follows one of the following fashions: (i) it's just him responding N4's posts saying how mafia they are, (ii) it's him answering posts that has his name on it, (iii) it's him trying to WIFOM town with night kill conspiracies or how N4 and I are mafia together. There isn't a single post where he actually tries to investigate people in order to further understand their alignments, he doesn't react to new information as it means more was to solving the game. He reacts to posts that only follow his agenda of surviving. Not a single time after I voted him he thought I could be town very convinced and tunneled. And I was his top town n0. It's a common mafia reaction to just engage in conflict with his accusers in order to discredit their behavior. That's what is happening here.
I love how you had to make shit up to even make this post work. Anybody actually following the thread can tell I interacted with everyone. I only interact with yourself and N4 because you two are literally the only other players that are constantly talking. I don't need to voice any concerns with you two because I know both of you are mafia. It's literally in everyones face 2 mafia vs the 1 cop.
Ok. Benefit of doubt. Why the fuck would ever not kill you then? In DC cop can die next night and win. Really? Hun this isn't my first time around the block.
-es
Because you both keep painting me as "obvious" mafia meaning I can easily get voted out. That's why you also killed Rayn, since he was speculating me to try and frame me.
1) Extremely logical and well thought claim. Why is this mafia: Claims that comes from mafia usually comes from a well devised plan with an agenda behind it. It is usually calculated and comes from a person who has perfect information. On the other hand, it's hard for mafia to blend in with genuine posts because they have perfect information and, with that, they have to fake every single post. This will make it sound robotic, generic, over cautious. This is what it sounds here:
On September 18 2020 04:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay so much for the confusion, just google number four + klaus + ben. I had my laughs :D
Let's play mafia. Monadel do you think anything sticks out as fishy atm?
No I don't.
I think what Glowingbear is saying is an unescessary over explanation on "the cop should claim" but I dont think it makes him mafia
Why?
Actually I agree. The cop gets n0 check then they need do claim.. 5v2 we get a red check for the cop is a good trade. I think cop shouldn't claim until d2 though.
Rayn why push for a cop claim n0?
To be fair I like the idea of having cop claiming n0 so the doctor knows who to protect. It either forces mafia to fakeclaim or doctor hunt. They will have 25% chance of hitting doctor while we guarantee we have a cop with a check day1.
The problem is when we don't have a clear claim and the doctor can't find out who the cop is because they "assume" it's someone else. This only helps mafia.
I was about to ask for more reasons why cop should claim N0, but I guess, it just needs to be done, and I really prefer town winning if that's the case here. I really want to trust Rayn and yourself GB for this claim, and really hope that I'm doing the right thing by doing so.
Hi. I'm finally a blue role (cop here [not copcake]) in one of Hapa's games. Who should I check on my N0 action? I was thinking of Monadel since he's new or Number4 since it's a hydra role.
On September 18 2020 04:13 GlowingBear wrote: [quote]
Wait, Copcake?
I am eversince.
And I'm inevitable
Good!
Now tell me sme of your reads?
^^
Rayn mafia Damdy meh You and CopCake detectives forever. Who can it be now? Monadel newbie on the forums, may be a bit intimidated to post more, but for now meh. Still waiting Vivax to own the game once more
I don't think m!Ryan here. Care to talk about it? -ES
Sure, Ben!
I don't like his opening while forcing people to say if they're the cop or not. Just ask for the cop to claim and move on? Also, if I got it right (I might have interpreted it wrong) if I said I was the cop he could think I was mafia fakeclaiming. If he thinks cop claiming is 100% the best option for town, why would I be mafia fakeclaiming?
Mafia can't fake claim n0? That's suicide. Oh you claim n0? We lynch into the two.
-ES
no its not.
Claim cop. See flip. Lynch who's wrong? Or am I being stupid? If mafia fake claims and doc saves cop and we have green flip then I'm 100% sure that makes them scum.
Interested in discussion. Being slowly convinced by rayn that the cop should claim.
On September 18 2020 05:25 Number 4 wrote: Ok. Let us end this.
Shock start talking .
Reacted to the fake claim cautiously.
On September 18 2020 05:39 Number 4 wrote: How claiming cop is important for mafia.
For mafia is not important, it is for town so it can be protected by the doctor. Mafia can’t give shit about it if the cop claims or not, they are going to kill someone anyways at night (more likely with the claim).
Idk if I explained it right.
Still not understanding how mafia could benefit from the claim, which explains why Number4 doesn't instantly jump on Shockey's neck ("fakeclaiming is suicide, mafia needs to survive, ergo, mafia probably won't fakeclaim, ergo, Shockey might be town trying to pull a plan")
On September 18 2020 05:56 Number 4 wrote: Ok, Eversince and me agreed to do this. We are the cop. Shockey’s claim is bullshit.
I was thinking in playing a little bit and do not claim, then when I read GB’s post about the 5v2 let me realize that if Shockey is mafia fake claiming then we are screwed since we need the protection of the doctor now because ever asked shockey to talk in two posts so that is kinda an out.
I honestly think GB is mafia, and that is the check I sent btw.
So that is all.
Finally, the claim. You can follow their logic easily, the claim is to the point: "I'm the cop, Shockey's claim is bullshit", and a little explanation.
In conclusion: although Number4 is a hydra, you can clearly follow their stream of reasoning until they reach the decision of claiming cop. The same can't be said about Shockey.
2) Rayn's check / not following with the plan of simultaneous check reveal Why is this mafia: if you need to fake a check on someone, you will either: (i)have to call a townie town, (ii) have to call your scum mate town, any other option is suicide. And any of these options may compromise you, especially when you had Rayn creating a plan where both cops reveals their check simultaneously. It's easier to decide who you're going to shoot and then claiming you had a check on the flipped townie. This way, you don't have much work of creating a more fake scenarios that you have to convince town. Also, shockey's check makes NO SENSE under his perspective because with so many "nulls", Shockey would NEVER check Rayn. See these posts: + Show Spoiler +
On September 18 2020 07:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: Now i am gonna be interested in who YOU are gonna check Shockeyy?
Possibly Vivax just cause him and I have had our quarrels in the past few games, or Dadred only cause that fucker was mafia last game... and I was fooled.
He was afraid of Vivax AND Damdred because they got him fooled, so it would make sense to check these guys.
On September 18 2020 07:10 Number 4 wrote: [quote]
Took us 4 hours? Hooray hun!
If it was a 30 player game i would totally be lynching you two for you bullshit nonsense that doesnt even make any sense ever.....
Yeah but most of the real claims are a bit clunky and illogical. It felt more and more that they were telling the truth and Shockey wasn't really invested in hunting.
What the fuck are you guys smoking???? I'm invested... I'm literally checking players outside of the person who counter claimed me. It's N0, and I have the best action to help finding mafia. Now town is going to decide I'm mafia because Dadred said I looked more natural? Where the hell is the logic in that.
On September 18 2020 05:10 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On September 18 2020 05:02 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:52 Number 4 wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:30 Monadel wrote: [quote]
No I don't.
I think what Glowingbear is saying is an unescessary over explanation on "the cop should claim" but I dont think it makes him mafia
Why?
Actually I agree. The cop gets n0 check then they need do claim.. 5v2 we get a red check for the cop is a good trade. I think cop shouldn't claim until d2 though.
Rayn why push for a cop claim n0?
To be fair I like the idea of having cop claiming n0 so the doctor knows who to protect. It either forces mafia to fakeclaim or doctor hunt. They will have 25% chance of hitting doctor while we guarantee we have a cop with a check day1.
The problem is when we don't have a clear claim and the doctor can't find out who the cop is because they "assume" it's someone else. This only helps mafia.
I was about to ask for more reasons why cop should claim N0, but I guess, it just needs to be done, and I really prefer town winning if that's the case here. I really want to trust Rayn and yourself GB for this claim, and really hope that I'm doing the right thing by doing so.
Hi. I'm finally a blue role (cop here [not copcake]) in one of Hapa's games. Who should I check on my N0 action? I was thinking of Monadel since he's new or Number4 since it's a hydra role.
This is the most artificial shit i have ever heard, sorry,
Did you even see the timeline? Can you explain why then N4 decided to counter claim me after I said I would check her?
Shockey I don't think you will convince rayn.
May I ask you to post your stream of thoughts when looking at the thread? When did you start reading, what did you think of posts at that time, etc.
I started reading 10 minutes before posting my claim. I literally followed the advice of you and Rayn because I also saw it's in the best interest of town. Number 4 didn't even want to "claim" until they saw I was gunning for them at night check.
Ok, got it and I understand why would you, as cop, take the advice. But I want to understand what did you think of people's alignment at that time. I mean, one thing is to take and advice. One thing is to be convince that the active people are townie.
I never said I was convinced you're both town, I just trust you both more than other players due to knowing you're both strong town players either way. I'm convinced Number 4 is mafia. Now I just have to go through my check lists. I posted I wanted to check the least active players because based on the past games, every mafia player has been AFK as fuck.
SEVERAL times he says he has no reason to suspect me or rayn, and this makes it more clear, because (i) he says he trust us MORE than the other townies and (ii) this was AFTER I've explained to him that rayn wasn't calling Shockey mafia because one of Dadred's posts, rayn was calling DADRED mafia because of Shockey. And Shockey seemed to understand this and to be ok with this. But then, near EoN...
On September 19 2020 03:23 GlowingBear wrote: @Shockeyy, are you there? I would love to know your reads before the night ends.
Mafia Obviously Cop/Ever (Number 4)
Scum lean Monadel - due to his questioning of me yesterday, need more posts from him, but he's leaning more null for me.
Null Rayn - I switched him from town ready because he's easy to flip flop reads from the look of it especially after asking for Cop to claim, then randomly decides I'm mafia cause Damdred said he liked my claim more lol... Vivax - I'm still on the fence with Vivax, but he's leaning more town. I need to speak with him more.
Slight Town Damdred - I think he was generally interested in the game in the beginning. Idk what he's up to now. But I liked his posting when he was talking to Rayn.
Town GB
He tells a lie about rayn again, while dropping him to null. Again, he did trust rayn more than Monadel and Vivax. Monadel is a goddamn scum lean. So why checking rayn over those two guys?
3) No interest in solving the game / resorts on WIFOM Every post from Shockey follows one of the following fashions: (i) it's just him responding N4's posts saying how mafia they are, (ii) it's him answering posts that has his name on it, (iii) it's him trying to WIFOM town with night kill conspiracies or how N4 and I are mafia together. There isn't a single post where he actually tries to investigate people in order to further understand their alignments, he doesn't react to new information as it means more was to solving the game. He reacts to posts that only follow his agenda of surviving. Not a single time after I voted him he thought I could be town very convinced and tunneled. And I was his top town n0. It's a common mafia reaction to just engage in conflict with his accusers in order to discredit their behavior. That's what is happening here.
I love how you had to make shit up to even make this post work. Anybody actually following the thread can tell I interacted with everyone. I only interact with yourself and N4 because you two are literally the only other players that are constantly talking. I don't need to voice any concerns with you two because I know both of you are mafia. It's literally in everyones face 2 mafia vs the 1 cop.
Ok. Benefit of doubt. Why the fuck would ever not kill you then? In DC cop can die next night and win. Really? Hun this isn't my first time around the block.
-es
Because you both keep painting me as "obvious" mafia meaning I can easily get voted out. That's why you also killed Rayn, since he was speculating me to try and frame me.
On top of this why would I ever kill rayn? I'd pocket him until d2 for the trade. If I was mafia I'd already be no contest the lynch today? Who do you think taught me on this site?
On September 22 2020 02:05 Number 4 wrote: On top of this why would I ever kill rayn? I'd pocket him until d2 for the trade. If I was mafia I'd already be no contest the lynch today? Who do you think taught me on this site?
-es
This is a bad argument though. Rayn was the towniest person and the one who drive conversation. Him being alive probably would lead to a no lynch instead of us lynching as well.
On September 22 2020 02:05 Number 4 wrote: On top of this why would I ever kill rayn? I'd pocket him until d2 for the trade. If I was mafia I'd already be no contest the lynch today? Who do you think taught me on this site?
-es
This is a bad argument though. Rayn was the towniest person and the one who drive conversation. Him being alive probably would lead to a no lynch instead of us lynching as well.
On September 22 2020 02:05 Number 4 wrote: On top of this why would I ever kill rayn? I'd pocket him until d2 for the trade. If I was mafia I'd already be no contest the lynch today? Who do you think taught me on this site?
-es
This is a bad argument though. Rayn was the towniest person and the one who drive conversation. Him being alive probably would lead to a no lynch instead of us lynching as well.
Rayn didn't scum read me but you think I'd put in no effort trying to win him over? M!es would have done exactly that. Because m!es wants a driving force to help push lynches. Would it of worked if I was mafia? 70/30 he catches me. Would I take those odds to win? Also yes.
On September 22 2020 02:05 Number 4 wrote: On top of this why would I ever kill rayn? I'd pocket him until d2 for the trade. If I was mafia I'd already be no contest the lynch today? Who do you think taught me on this site?
-es
This is a bad argument though. Rayn was the towniest person and the one who drive conversation. Him being alive probably would lead to a no lynch instead of us lynching as well.
On September 22 2020 02:23 Dadred wrote: Nah I'm just saying it's a bad argument, I would never kill this person cause of reason X.
I think it's likely that you wouldn't kill him but it's a wifom argument that could be used against you.
Ok I admit this actually, I haven't been active so without deep diving my past games it's just wifom from meta/ experience. I don't expect someone new to check this. The rest of us ol' timers have played together for us to know it's not wrong.
1) Extremely logical and well thought claim. Why is this mafia: Claims that comes from mafia usually comes from a well devised plan with an agenda behind it. It is usually calculated and comes from a person who has perfect information. On the other hand, it's hard for mafia to blend in with genuine posts because they have perfect information and, with that, they have to fake every single post. This will make it sound robotic, generic, over cautious. This is what it sounds here:
On September 18 2020 04:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay so much for the confusion, just google number four + klaus + ben. I had my laughs :D
Let's play mafia. Monadel do you think anything sticks out as fishy atm?
No I don't.
I think what Glowingbear is saying is an unescessary over explanation on "the cop should claim" but I dont think it makes him mafia
Why?
Actually I agree. The cop gets n0 check then they need do claim.. 5v2 we get a red check for the cop is a good trade. I think cop shouldn't claim until d2 though.
Rayn why push for a cop claim n0?
To be fair I like the idea of having cop claiming n0 so the doctor knows who to protect. It either forces mafia to fakeclaim or doctor hunt. They will have 25% chance of hitting doctor while we guarantee we have a cop with a check day1.
The problem is when we don't have a clear claim and the doctor can't find out who the cop is because they "assume" it's someone else. This only helps mafia.
I was about to ask for more reasons why cop should claim N0, but I guess, it just needs to be done, and I really prefer town winning if that's the case here. I really want to trust Rayn and yourself GB for this claim, and really hope that I'm doing the right thing by doing so.
Hi. I'm finally a blue role (cop here [not copcake]) in one of Hapa's games. Who should I check on my N0 action? I was thinking of Monadel since he's new or Number4 since it's a hydra role.
On September 18 2020 04:13 GlowingBear wrote: [quote]
Wait, Copcake?
I am eversince.
And I'm inevitable
Good!
Now tell me sme of your reads?
^^
Rayn mafia Damdy meh You and CopCake detectives forever. Who can it be now? Monadel newbie on the forums, may be a bit intimidated to post more, but for now meh. Still waiting Vivax to own the game once more
I don't think m!Ryan here. Care to talk about it? -ES
Sure, Ben!
I don't like his opening while forcing people to say if they're the cop or not. Just ask for the cop to claim and move on? Also, if I got it right (I might have interpreted it wrong) if I said I was the cop he could think I was mafia fakeclaiming. If he thinks cop claiming is 100% the best option for town, why would I be mafia fakeclaiming?
Mafia can't fake claim n0? That's suicide. Oh you claim n0? We lynch into the two.
-ES
no its not.
Claim cop. See flip. Lynch who's wrong? Or am I being stupid? If mafia fake claims and doc saves cop and we have green flip then I'm 100% sure that makes them scum.
Interested in discussion. Being slowly convinced by rayn that the cop should claim.
On September 18 2020 05:25 Number 4 wrote: Ok. Let us end this.
Shock start talking .
Reacted to the fake claim cautiously.
On September 18 2020 05:39 Number 4 wrote: How claiming cop is important for mafia.
For mafia is not important, it is for town so it can be protected by the doctor. Mafia can’t give shit about it if the cop claims or not, they are going to kill someone anyways at night (more likely with the claim).
Idk if I explained it right.
Still not understanding how mafia could benefit from the claim, which explains why Number4 doesn't instantly jump on Shockey's neck ("fakeclaiming is suicide, mafia needs to survive, ergo, mafia probably won't fakeclaim, ergo, Shockey might be town trying to pull a plan")
On September 18 2020 05:56 Number 4 wrote: Ok, Eversince and me agreed to do this. We are the cop. Shockey’s claim is bullshit.
I was thinking in playing a little bit and do not claim, then when I read GB’s post about the 5v2 let me realize that if Shockey is mafia fake claiming then we are screwed since we need the protection of the doctor now because ever asked shockey to talk in two posts so that is kinda an out.
I honestly think GB is mafia, and that is the check I sent btw.
So that is all.
Finally, the claim. You can follow their logic easily, the claim is to the point: "I'm the cop, Shockey's claim is bullshit", and a little explanation.
In conclusion: although Number4 is a hydra, you can clearly follow their stream of reasoning until they reach the decision of claiming cop. The same can't be said about Shockey.
2) Rayn's check / not following with the plan of simultaneous check reveal Why is this mafia: if you need to fake a check on someone, you will either: (i)have to call a townie town, (ii) have to call your scum mate town, any other option is suicide. And any of these options may compromise you, especially when you had Rayn creating a plan where both cops reveals their check simultaneously. It's easier to decide who you're going to shoot and then claiming you had a check on the flipped townie. This way, you don't have much work of creating a more fake scenarios that you have to convince town. Also, shockey's check makes NO SENSE under his perspective because with so many "nulls", Shockey would NEVER check Rayn. See these posts: + Show Spoiler +
On September 18 2020 07:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: Now i am gonna be interested in who YOU are gonna check Shockeyy?
Possibly Vivax just cause him and I have had our quarrels in the past few games, or Dadred only cause that fucker was mafia last game... and I was fooled.
He was afraid of Vivax AND Damdred because they got him fooled, so it would make sense to check these guys.
On September 18 2020 07:10 Number 4 wrote: [quote]
Took us 4 hours? Hooray hun!
If it was a 30 player game i would totally be lynching you two for you bullshit nonsense that doesnt even make any sense ever.....
Yeah but most of the real claims are a bit clunky and illogical. It felt more and more that they were telling the truth and Shockey wasn't really invested in hunting.
What the fuck are you guys smoking???? I'm invested... I'm literally checking players outside of the person who counter claimed me. It's N0, and I have the best action to help finding mafia. Now town is going to decide I'm mafia because Dadred said I looked more natural? Where the hell is the logic in that.
On September 18 2020 05:10 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On September 18 2020 05:02 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:52 Number 4 wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:30 Monadel wrote: [quote]
No I don't.
I think what Glowingbear is saying is an unescessary over explanation on "the cop should claim" but I dont think it makes him mafia
Why?
Actually I agree. The cop gets n0 check then they need do claim.. 5v2 we get a red check for the cop is a good trade. I think cop shouldn't claim until d2 though.
Rayn why push for a cop claim n0?
To be fair I like the idea of having cop claiming n0 so the doctor knows who to protect. It either forces mafia to fakeclaim or doctor hunt. They will have 25% chance of hitting doctor while we guarantee we have a cop with a check day1.
The problem is when we don't have a clear claim and the doctor can't find out who the cop is because they "assume" it's someone else. This only helps mafia.
I was about to ask for more reasons why cop should claim N0, but I guess, it just needs to be done, and I really prefer town winning if that's the case here. I really want to trust Rayn and yourself GB for this claim, and really hope that I'm doing the right thing by doing so.
Hi. I'm finally a blue role (cop here [not copcake]) in one of Hapa's games. Who should I check on my N0 action? I was thinking of Monadel since he's new or Number4 since it's a hydra role.
This is the most artificial shit i have ever heard, sorry,
Did you even see the timeline? Can you explain why then N4 decided to counter claim me after I said I would check her?
Shockey I don't think you will convince rayn.
May I ask you to post your stream of thoughts when looking at the thread? When did you start reading, what did you think of posts at that time, etc.
I started reading 10 minutes before posting my claim. I literally followed the advice of you and Rayn because I also saw it's in the best interest of town. Number 4 didn't even want to "claim" until they saw I was gunning for them at night check.
Ok, got it and I understand why would you, as cop, take the advice. But I want to understand what did you think of people's alignment at that time. I mean, one thing is to take and advice. One thing is to be convince that the active people are townie.
I never said I was convinced you're both town, I just trust you both more than other players due to knowing you're both strong town players either way. I'm convinced Number 4 is mafia. Now I just have to go through my check lists. I posted I wanted to check the least active players because based on the past games, every mafia player has been AFK as fuck.
SEVERAL times he says he has no reason to suspect me or rayn, and this makes it more clear, because (i) he says he trust us MORE than the other townies and (ii) this was AFTER I've explained to him that rayn wasn't calling Shockey mafia because one of Dadred's posts, rayn was calling DADRED mafia because of Shockey. And Shockey seemed to understand this and to be ok with this. But then, near EoN...
On September 19 2020 03:23 GlowingBear wrote: @Shockeyy, are you there? I would love to know your reads before the night ends.
Mafia Obviously Cop/Ever (Number 4)
Scum lean Monadel - due to his questioning of me yesterday, need more posts from him, but he's leaning more null for me.
Null Rayn - I switched him from town ready because he's easy to flip flop reads from the look of it especially after asking for Cop to claim, then randomly decides I'm mafia cause Damdred said he liked my claim more lol... Vivax - I'm still on the fence with Vivax, but he's leaning more town. I need to speak with him more.
Slight Town Damdred - I think he was generally interested in the game in the beginning. Idk what he's up to now. But I liked his posting when he was talking to Rayn.
Town GB
He tells a lie about rayn again, while dropping him to null. Again, he did trust rayn more than Monadel and Vivax. Monadel is a goddamn scum lean. So why checking rayn over those two guys?
3) No interest in solving the game / resorts on WIFOM Every post from Shockey follows one of the following fashions: (i) it's just him responding N4's posts saying how mafia they are, (ii) it's him answering posts that has his name on it, (iii) it's him trying to WIFOM town with night kill conspiracies or how N4 and I are mafia together. There isn't a single post where he actually tries to investigate people in order to further understand their alignments, he doesn't react to new information as it means more was to solving the game. He reacts to posts that only follow his agenda of surviving. Not a single time after I voted him he thought I could be town very convinced and tunneled. And I was his top town n0. It's a common mafia reaction to just engage in conflict with his accusers in order to discredit their behavior. That's what is happening here.
I love how you had to make shit up to even make this post work. Anybody actually following the thread can tell I interacted with everyone. I only interact with yourself and N4 because you two are literally the only other players that are constantly talking. I don't need to voice any concerns with you two because I know both of you are mafia. It's literally in everyones face 2 mafia vs the 1 cop.
I've made no shit up, I didn't say you didn't interact with every player, I said you are not interested in uncovering their alignments
If you seriously believe rayn would not raise hell when he's caught mafia????? Really damdred? r.r. Rayn already had shock so screwed into the wall this day would be already over. 100% of times.
On September 19 2020 03:39 Number 4 wrote: Ok GB who is mafia according to you and everything that has happened?
Although I dislike a lot of things you've done here, I still believe you're probably town. Mostly gut feeling. I also think rayn is town, every time he posts he is thinking something similar to what I'm thinking. He also seems interested in solving the game, he is involved with the thread, etc. Monadel didn't post much but he seems townie too, especially his interaction with me when I've changed my opinion on who should be protected. He seems genuinely interested in my thought process while been cautious of how this could affect the game during n0.
Vivax is null, his appearance in thread is just nitpicking me and going back to lurking. Not sure if this makes him mafia. I would have to talk more with him.
Dadred is not really interested in the game, has been lurking, throw some random reads and go back to lurking. Plus he doesn't seem really interested in knowing who the cop really is. He basically throws "Shockey's claim seems more natural". (?). He also said cop should check me because I can carry the game (?). He doesn't even have confidence in who the cop is, why the cop check would make any difference at this point now?
Shockey is mafia because I believe more in your claim than in his.
Anyway, these will most likely be true if rayn is dead today. I'm the only person throwing suspicions at you so it would be better to let me live instead of rayn (if youre the real cop)
It's been a nice ride, I will stay away from the game until Day2, where I'll vote shockey and come back when it's deadline.
Number4 and Shockey, you always check Vivax in this situation. Once we have Day2, count 45 minutes and confirm if both of you are present in the thread. If you are, you wait more 15 minutes and reveal your checks together. If you aren't, wait for another full hour and 15 minutes before the round hour you check again if both of you are online. Easy.
Just fucking Lynch between shock or me. Putting town into continuous mylo is stupid. Vote for him or vote for me.
I will throw myself off a cliff if town refuses to Lynch anyone when it's literal one of the two. Short of that I will call you all imbeciles post game.
On September 22 2020 03:45 Number 4 wrote: Yeah let us vote for ourselves tbh
Do you want to do that Eversince?
Uhm, you don't have to do that. All you have to do is place your vote, do your check and AFK
I am annoyed, this is not being “wary town”, it is being straight... something.
So many cases, so many reasons...
Imagine how frustrated I feel
I also feel frustrated because it's blatantly obvious to me, but well, that's how it is. Just vote, check and AFK. Town needed more information, we gave them more information, they aren't doing shit with it. So just let go and hope they do the right thing.
It makes me feel like if I am a failed town who wasn’t able to fucking clear ourselves.
I mean, Shockey doesnt eveb use his “>:O” and emojis he tends to post when he plays normally, he is just being here calling us mafia with no arguments except “you are attacking me”, like there is no analysis, no nothing.
On September 22 2020 03:24 Vivax wrote: Yea I'm feeling a bit pushed here. Also easy to spam activity as a hydra.
Shockeyys check came first and is kind of crappy for mafia?
He could've just red checked some townie, or claimed to also have checked GB.
Back to afk for another cycle methinks.
The moment he red checks another townie, that townie will know that shockey is mafia and would have followed me, that is why I think he checked a “dead person” 🙃
On September 17 2020 04:17 ShoCkeyy wrote: I'll /in although I can't say I will be as active as people want would like for me to be.
I literally posted this before game starts. My case is still on going only because it takes a lot of effort and time to make it. I’ve been swamped with packing for a move and work. If only I can magically wave a wand and have it all done. But you N4 being so fucking pushy is scummy as hell. Damdred please. You should know the way N4 has been playing is seriously scummy. Just read her filter the day she “counter claimed” me. It’s scummiest to the 10x power.
On September 17 2020 04:17 ShoCkeyy wrote: I'll /in although I can't say I will be as active as people want would like for me to be.
I literally posted this before game starts. My case is still on going only because it takes a lot of effort and time to make it. I’ve been swamped with packing for a move and work. If only I can magically wave a wand and have it all done. But you N4 being so fucking pushy is scummy as hell. Damdred please. You should know the way N4 has been playing is seriously scummy. Just read her filter the day she “counter claimed” me. It’s scummiest to the 10x power.
I don't think anybody is upset with your activity, Shockey and I'd say you're playing a fair game. We just think you're mafia lol
On September 17 2020 04:17 ShoCkeyy wrote: I'll /in although I can't say I will be as active as people want would like for me to be.
I literally posted this before game starts. My case is still on going only because it takes a lot of effort and time to make it. I’ve been swamped with packing for a move and work. If only I can magically wave a wand and have it all done. But you N4 being so fucking pushy is scummy as hell. Damdred please. You should know the way N4 has been playing is seriously scummy. Just read her filter the day she “counter claimed” me. It’s scummiest to the 10x power.
If you were a fruit, which one would you be? 😝 I am not mad at you but the game is irritating for us.
On September 17 2020 04:17 ShoCkeyy wrote: I'll /in although I can't say I will be as active as people want would like for me to be.
I literally posted this before game starts. My case is still on going only because it takes a lot of effort and time to make it. I’ve been swamped with packing for a move and work. If only I can magically wave a wand and have it all done. But you N4 being so fucking pushy is scummy as hell. Damdred please. You should know the way N4 has been playing is seriously scummy. Just read her filter the day she “counter claimed” me. It’s scummiest to the 10x power.
Uhm, I'm a farmer living half way across the globe trying to prepare for harvest season in a country on the other side of the globe. It's 3 in the morning after 20 hours and I'm still the one more dedicated? Oh wait.. I am also going to uni full time! Manure!
On September 17 2020 04:17 ShoCkeyy wrote: I'll /in although I can't say I will be as active as people want would like for me to be.
I literally posted this before game starts. My case is still on going only because it takes a lot of effort and time to make it. I’ve been swamped with packing for a move and work. If only I can magically wave a wand and have it all done. But you N4 being so fucking pushy is scummy as hell. Damdred please. You should know the way N4 has been playing is seriously scummy. Just read her filter the day she “counter claimed” me. It’s scummiest to the 10x power.
Uhm, I'm a farmer living half way across the globe trying to prepare for harvest season in a country on the other side of the globe. It's 3 in the morning after 20 hours and I'm still the one more dedicated? Oh wait.. I am also going to uni full time! Manure!
I'm late but at least I deal with issues.
-es
Everyone deals with things 😁 do not get mad at shockey he is doing his best as mafia, I understand being irritated tho.
Lynch the town because that was the dumbest play I've seen in a long time. I'm not going to spend the next 96 hours trying to save this town when they won't even fucking lynch mafia.
Hey, Monadel! Although I'm addicted to activity, I like very much the way you are approaching the game and I hope you keep playing with us in the future.
Could you please take a look at the case I've brought on Shockey and give some thoughts about it?
I like and agree with Point 1. I initially thought shockeys original claim was weird because he asked who hem should check and that just seems like a way to lead mafias night kill. (this is also why i asked how experienced he was)
Point 2 i disagree with in part. I don't see how not following rayns plan is mafia indicative because if IIRC shockey claimed first. (as mafia id rather see what the other person is claiming)
Point 3 is fair but could be said about a lot of people in this game myself included.
Glowingbear what is troubling me most is i dont understand ES point of view as well. They are all doom and gloom yet they have you as a ride or die and damdred is leaning their way. I dont understand why a town cop would be frustrated here. The frustration makes more sense in my head coming from mafia not getting the win than town spending 1 more day on the game.
On September 22 2020 06:54 Monadel wrote: I like and agree with Point 1. I initially thought shockeys original claim was weird because he asked who hem should check and that just seems like a way to lead mafias night kill. (this is also why i asked how experienced he was)
Point 2 i disagree with in part. I don't see how not following rayns plan is mafia indicative because if IIRC shockey claimed first. (as mafia id rather see what the other person is claiming)
Point 3 is fair but could be said about a lot of people in this game myself included.
Glowingbear what is troubling me most is i dont understand ES point of view as well. They are all doom and gloom yet they have you as a ride or die and damdred is leaning their way. I dont understand why a town cop would be frustrated here. The frustration makes more sense in my head coming from mafia not getting the win than town spending 1 more day on the game.
This is exactly what I've been saying. Both GB and Number 4 have been so pushy to lynch me immediately. Only mafia would like to win the game in that scenario rather than continue to play the game in towns favor. We will lose a town member here sadly, but we will gain that much more in knowledge in who's town or mafia with my check tonight which will help town win. The way I see it is:
We're going to be 3v2 D2. I already know Number 4 is mafia.
By voting out mafia for D2, we'll be in a 3v1 situation for N2. Then mafia will kill another town, and we'll be able to obtain another check confirming the the real mafia.
Mafia kills another townie then N3, and we'll know 100% by then who is mafia, and it'll be a 2v1 situation.
Yet N4 and GB both we're dying to lynch me today because in reality it was their only win chance. This is why they were so pushy all day.
No sane town goes for a instant lynch which can lead to an instant loss for town.
On September 22 2020 06:54 Monadel wrote: I like and agree with Point 1. I initially thought shockeys original claim was weird because he asked who hem should check and that just seems like a way to lead mafias night kill. (this is also why i asked how experienced he was)
Point 2 i disagree with in part. I don't see how not following rayns plan is mafia indicative because if IIRC shockey claimed first. (as mafia id rather see what the other person is claiming)
Point 3 is fair but could be said about a lot of people in this game myself included.
Glowingbear what is troubling me most is i dont understand ES point of view as well. They are all doom and gloom yet they have you as a ride or die and damdred is leaning their way. I dont understand why a town cop would be frustrated here. The frustration makes more sense in my head coming from mafia not getting the win than town spending 1 more day on the game.
This is exactly what I've been saying. Both GB and Number 4 have been so pushy to lynch me immediately. Only mafia would like to win the game in that scenario rather than continue to play the game in towns favor. We will lose a town member here sadly, but we will gain that much more in knowledge in who's town or mafia with my check tonight which will help town win. The way I see it is:
We're going to be 3v2 D2. I already know Number 4 is mafia.
By voting out mafia for D2, we'll be in a 3v1 situation for N2. Then mafia will kill another town, and we'll be able to obtain another check confirming the the real mafia.
Mafia kills another townie then N3, and we'll know 100% by then who is mafia, and it'll be a 2v1 situation.
Yet N4 and GB both we're dying to lynch me today because in reality it was their only win chance. This is why they were so pushy all day.
No sane town goes for a instant lynch which can lead to an instant loss for town.
So basic exactly what I pushed for all d1 except your rebranding it as your idea and calling it good the sudden?
On September 22 2020 06:54 Monadel wrote: I like and agree with Point 1. I initially thought shockeys original claim was weird because he asked who hem should check and that just seems like a way to lead mafias night kill. (this is also why i asked how experienced he was)
Point 2 i disagree with in part. I don't see how not following rayns plan is mafia indicative because if IIRC shockey claimed first. (as mafia id rather see what the other person is claiming)
Point 3 is fair but could be said about a lot of people in this game myself included.
Glowingbear what is troubling me most is i dont understand ES point of view as well. They are all doom and gloom yet they have you as a ride or die and damdred is leaning their way. I dont understand why a town cop would be frustrated here. The frustration makes more sense in my head coming from mafia not getting the win than town spending 1 more day on the game.
This is exactly what I've been saying. Both GB and Number 4 have been so pushy to lynch me immediately. Only mafia would like to win the game in that scenario rather than continue to play the game in towns favor. We will lose a town member here sadly, but we will gain that much more in knowledge in who's town or mafia with my check tonight which will help town win. The way I see it is:
We're going to be 3v2 D2. I already know Number 4 is mafia.
By voting out mafia for D2, we'll be in a 3v1 situation for N2. Then mafia will kill another town, and we'll be able to obtain another check confirming the the real mafia.
Mafia kills another townie then N3, and we'll know 100% by then who is mafia, and it'll be a 2v1 situation.
Yet N4 and GB both we're dying to lynch me today because in reality it was their only win chance. This is why they were so pushy all day.
No sane town goes for a instant lynch which can lead to an instant loss for town.
So basic exactly what I pushed for all d1 except your rebranding it as your idea and calling it good the sudden?
-es
It doesn't seem you pushed for this. I clearly recall you pushing for my lynch.
Oh wait except not. Because both cop/doc are out. Which means either damdred is your partner or he die, gets rb and you die then he dies. He already said he'd doc me. So if your cop, mafia rb damdred to deny save, kill you, then you think me/ damdy team DID NOT FUCKING KILL TOWN THIS CYCLE?Explain now or eat a rotten chicken.
On September 22 2020 07:41 Number 4 wrote: Oh wait except not. Because both cop/doc are out. Which means either damdred is your partner or he die, gets rb and you die then he dies. He already said he'd doc me. So if your cop, mafia rb damdred to deny save, kill you, then you think me/ damdy team DID NOT FUCKING KILL TOWN THIS CYCLE?Explain now or eat a rotten chicken.
-es
Did you just oust yourself?
As far as I'm aware, there isn't suppose to be a RB? Unless there was and you just scum claimed.
On September 17 2020 03:01 Hapahauli wrote: Cool.
So we have 6 right now (unless Eversince decides to play individually, or unless LS or Shockeyy decide to play).
We need 7 for the setup:
Cop Doctor Vanilla Town Vanilla Town Vanilla Town Mafia Goon Mafia Goon
On September 22 2020 06:54 Monadel wrote: I like and agree with Point 1. I initially thought shockeys original claim was weird because he asked who hem should check and that just seems like a way to lead mafias night kill. (this is also why i asked how experienced he was)
Point 2 i disagree with in part. I don't see how not following rayns plan is mafia indicative because if IIRC shockey claimed first. (as mafia id rather see what the other person is claiming)
Point 3 is fair but could be said about a lot of people in this game myself included.
Glowingbear what is troubling me most is i dont understand ES point of view as well. They are all doom and gloom yet they have you as a ride or die and damdred is leaning their way. I dont understand why a town cop would be frustrated here. The frustration makes more sense in my head coming from mafia not getting the win than town spending 1 more day on the game.
Point 2: not following with town's plan is antitown. He didn't commit to revealing it simultaneously with N4. But the main problem here is how he decided who he should check. It doesn't make sense.
Point 3: I disagree, you've been actively trying to understand the game. You're not just reacting accordingly to an agenda.
On September 22 2020 07:41 Number 4 wrote: Oh wait except not. Because both cop/doc are out. Which means either damdred is your partner or he die, gets rb and you die then he dies. He already said he'd doc me. So if your cop, mafia rb damdred to deny save, kill you, then you think me/ damdy team DID NOT FUCKING KILL TOWN THIS CYCLE?Explain now or eat a rotten chicken.
-es
Did you just oust yourself?
As far as I'm aware, there isn't suppose to be a RB? Unless there was and you just scum claimed.
On September 22 2020 07:41 Number 4 wrote: Oh wait except not. Because both cop/doc are out. Which means either damdred is your partner or he die, gets rb and you die then he dies. He already said he'd doc me. So if your cop, mafia rb damdred to deny save, kill you, then you think me/ damdy team DID NOT FUCKING KILL TOWN THIS CYCLE?Explain now or eat a rotten chicken.
-es
You do realize that the setup is two mafia goons, right?
On September 22 2020 07:41 Number 4 wrote: Oh wait except not. Because both cop/doc are out. Which means either damdred is your partner or he die, gets rb and you die then he dies. He already said he'd doc me. So if your cop, mafia rb damdred to deny save, kill you, then you think me/ damdy team DID NOT FUCKING KILL TOWN THIS CYCLE?Explain now or eat a rotten chicken.
-es
You do realize that the setup is two mafia goons, right?
Where? Because obviously not. Game started before I even knew the hydra info.
On September 22 2020 07:41 Number 4 wrote: Oh wait except not. Because both cop/doc are out. Which means either damdred is your partner or he die, gets rb and you die then he dies. He already said he'd doc me. So if your cop, mafia rb damdred to deny save, kill you, then you think me/ damdy team DID NOT FUCKING KILL TOWN THIS CYCLE?Explain now or eat a rotten chicken.
-es
You do realize that the setup is two mafia goons, right?
Where? Because obviously not. Game started before I even knew the hydra info.
-es
Check Hapa's filter. When he says he sent the /confirm he puts the setup there.
This is an INSTANT MAJORITY LYNCH GAME. The second that someone reaches a majority of votes, they are lynched. I will be capping day lengths at 72 hours.
THIS GAME STARTS AT NIGHT 0. Please submit night actions. Nights will normally last 24 hours. Night 0 is slightly extended due to host's schedule.
Doctor can save any target except for himself.
Cop can check anyone's alignment.
Yep Yep. I'm stupid. *cries* That's embarrassing but good. Well be back to damdred saves me, dies, I get another check die tomorrow. My logic was working but my brain wasn't. I'll own my mistakes ..
On September 22 2020 06:54 Monadel wrote: I like and agree with Point 1. I initially thought shockeys original claim was weird because he asked who hem should check and that just seems like a way to lead mafias night kill. (this is also why i asked how experienced he was)
Point 2 i disagree with in part. I don't see how not following rayns plan is mafia indicative because if IIRC shockey claimed first. (as mafia id rather see what the other person is claiming)
Point 3 is fair but could be said about a lot of people in this game myself included.
Glowingbear what is troubling me most is i dont understand ES point of view as well. They are all doom and gloom yet they have you as a ride or die and damdred is leaning their way. I dont understand why a town cop would be frustrated here. The frustration makes more sense in my head coming from mafia not getting the win than town spending 1 more day on the game.
This is exactly what I've been saying. Both GB and Number 4 have been so pushy to lynch me immediately. Only mafia would like to win the game in that scenario rather than continue to play the game in towns favor. We will lose a town member here sadly, but we will gain that much more in knowledge in who's town or mafia with my check tonight which will help town win. The way I see it is:
We're going to be 3v2 D2. I already know Number 4 is mafia.
By voting out mafia for D2, we'll be in a 3v1 situation for N2. Then mafia will kill another town, and we'll be able to obtain another check confirming the the real mafia.
Mafia kills another townie then N3, and we'll know 100% by then who is mafia, and it'll be a 2v1 situation.
Yet N4 and GB both we're dying to lynch me today because in reality it was their only win chance. This is why they were so pushy all day.
No sane town goes for a instant lynch which can lead to an instant loss for town.
Where is your own case?
Why do you just have to surf over someones opinion?
Really I hope after this game someone learns something from this fiasco.
On September 22 2020 06:54 Monadel wrote: I like and agree with Point 1. I initially thought shockeys original claim was weird because he asked who hem should check and that just seems like a way to lead mafias night kill. (this is also why i asked how experienced he was)
Point 2 i disagree with in part. I don't see how not following rayns plan is mafia indicative because if IIRC shockey claimed first. (as mafia id rather see what the other person is claiming)
Point 3 is fair but could be said about a lot of people in this game myself included.
Glowingbear what is troubling me most is i dont understand ES point of view as well. They are all doom and gloom yet they have you as a ride or die and damdred is leaning their way. I dont understand why a town cop would be frustrated here. The frustration makes more sense in my head coming from mafia not getting the win than town spending 1 more day on the game.
This is exactly what I've been saying. Both GB and Number 4 have been so pushy to lynch me immediately. Only mafia would like to win the game in that scenario rather than continue to play the game in towns favor. We will lose a town member here sadly, but we will gain that much more in knowledge in who's town or mafia with my check tonight which will help town win. The way I see it is:
We're going to be 3v2 D2. I already know Number 4 is mafia.
By voting out mafia for D2, we'll be in a 3v1 situation for N2. Then mafia will kill another town, and we'll be able to obtain another check confirming the the real mafia.
Mafia kills another townie then N3, and we'll know 100% by then who is mafia, and it'll be a 2v1 situation.
Yet N4 and GB both we're dying to lynch me today because in reality it was their only win chance. This is why they were so pushy all day.
No sane town goes for a instant lynch which can lead to an instant loss for town.
Where is your own case?
Why do you just have to surf over someones opinion?
Really I hope after this game someone learns something from this fiasco.
Honestly Monadel, here there are some key points to consider.
1) Who is more likely to blue hunt? Mafia or Town? Mafia is the only one who cares who is a blue so they call kill them at night. Shockey has been doing that all during day 1, asking several times GB if he is the real doctor, doubting dadred, why do you think is this? So he knows who to kill at night. Mafia will always go on its way fishing for power roles while town don't give a fuck and prefer them to be safe.
2) Shockey hasn’t come with ideas on his own. He is just creating stories that it is me and GB.
3) Vivax only came almost at eotd/ eotn ,threw shade first at GB and yesterday at me, then just surfed down and did nothing else, not tried to save the game. There is a thing called “meta” which is like a pattern of actions/ behaviour a Person do even without realizing. Vivax has followed all the steps we have seen so far as “mafia” Vivax. He tends to just leave and hide, not solving the game. Even tho it shouldn’t be followed 100%, we have gave him the benefit of the doubt way too much so at least for me he is 90% mafia now. Vivax is a VERY good player and his posts tend to be very fruitful for town even if he is mistaken or not. There is a saying that Vivax is very good to make himself look town and he is not doing it here. A Town Shockey should be able to call out this but so far for him is always GB who is my partner.
3) You are, at least from my point of view, not taking in consideration GB points, mine, or idk. Shockey nor Vivax hasn’t expresed a case except for saying “they are framing me” to fit an agenda instead of putting facts and working with the info we get from questions and what no. Shockey hasnt even answered GB’s questions. I have told you that is not normal Shockey’s behaviour, Rayn before dying also saif that, GB has said that, Dadred came up with conclusions by the reactions.
Shockey is acting like a martyr that worked so hard for a no lynch, which shouldn’t be. If he was the real cop he would be sure that 4 is mafia and would be building cases, call me out that I am acting strange to convince GB and dadred, etc but HE CANT because my game is so PRO TOWN. Only thing they can tell is that I pushed hard for the lynch but ofc I will because I know he is mafia.
You said frustration comes from mafia, what do you call shockey conming here the moment dadred says he will come and vote him? Instead of getting mad or frustrated he acted like a sad puppy to him.
On September 22 2020 06:54 Monadel wrote: I like and agree with Point 1. I initially thought shockeys original claim was weird because he asked who hem should check and that just seems like a way to lead mafias night kill. (this is also why i asked how experienced he was)
Point 2 i disagree with in part. I don't see how not following rayns plan is mafia indicative because if IIRC shockey claimed first. (as mafia id rather see what the other person is claiming)
Point 3 is fair but could be said about a lot of people in this game myself included.
Glowingbear what is troubling me most is i dont understand ES point of view as well. They are all doom and gloom yet they have you as a ride or die and damdred is leaning their way. I dont understand why a town cop would be frustrated here. The frustration makes more sense in my head coming from mafia not getting the win than town spending 1 more day on the game.
This is exactly what I've been saying. Both GB and Number 4 have been so pushy to lynch me immediately. Only mafia would like to win the game in that scenario rather than continue to play the game in towns favor. We will lose a town member here sadly, but we will gain that much more in knowledge in who's town or mafia with my check tonight which will help town win. The way I see it is:
We're going to be 3v2 D2. I already know Number 4 is mafia.
By voting out mafia for D2, we'll be in a 3v1 situation for N2. Then mafia will kill another town, and we'll be able to obtain another check confirming the the real mafia.
Mafia kills another townie then N3, and we'll know 100% by then who is mafia, and it'll be a 2v1 situation.
Yet N4 and GB both we're dying to lynch me today because in reality it was their only win chance. This is why they were so pushy all day.
No sane town goes for a instant lynch which can lead to an instant loss for town.
Where is your own case?
Why do you just have to surf over someones opinion?
Really I hope after this game someone learns something from this fiasco.
On September 18 2020 17:01 Number 4 wrote: Like I understand why Damdred thinks Shockey’s claim looks better, I would put Monadel in this.
I already explained why we didnt cc inmediatly and I don’t feel to post that again, let it be what it is.
For those who had played mafia before here, you know shockey is a fluffy cutesy funny ball. Does he look bubbly? If Shockey was the cop he would be all “Lmaaaooooo i cant believe this game is soooo easy lmaoooo” posting fucking baby seals everywhere and having fun but here he is posting long boring posts that look they were typed by siri from iphone. No soul no nothing. Like even when he has been mafia before he hasnt been like this. Idk it makes me think he is being lectured.
And for those who don’t have the knowledge, I read people according to personality most likely and if they contradict what they tend to think.
On September 20 2020 23:29 Number 4 wrote: Best play obviously for ever and me is to lynch shockey.
Now thinking about the two persons missing, Monadel and Vivax I don’t know what to think about it.
A part of me thinks that Mafia Vivax would take advantage of the situation and call 4 mafia always. On the other hand if he called me mafia there is also the probability that GB and Rayn would have call him out because of their reasons to think why Shockey is mafia and not us so maybe he is wary of this and that is why his only posts are about to throw shade at GB.
Then we have Monadel who I can’t read because he is new, he proposed the no lynch which is a pro town thing, Could it be that him not being to choose which cop is more trustful is because he doesn't know us? Or is it that he is a mafia that doesn't know what to do and is trying to look town in case Shockey gets lynched? Or is the no lynch plan to go last minute and vote me and win the game?
Either way, I promise you that if we lynch shockey you lynched mafia and it will be easy game because we just need to check one of them and rip mafia.
On September 21 2020 05:17 Number 4 wrote: Wait mmmmm
If Vivax is town and Monadel is the scum partner is obvious they are going to say that Vivax is green, I’ll get the same check and it is going to be again a long frustrating day discussing. Shockey’s has a partner that will follow him, We (me and ever) do not have a partner even if you believe us, there is a chance that you can change your mind.
If Vivax is mafia Shockey is going to say that he is town and I will get the red check, then the poor Monadel will be between a war of GB + 4 vs Shockey + Vivax
Which scenario looks good to you?
This is what is more likely going to happen next day.
On September 20 2020 23:29 Number 4 wrote: Best play obviously for ever and me is to lynch shockey.
Now thinking about the two persons missing, Monadel and Vivax I don’t know what to think about it.
A part of me thinks that Mafia Vivax would take advantage of the situation and call 4 mafia always. On the other hand if he called me mafia there is also the probability that GB and Rayn would have call him out because of their reasons to think why Shockey is mafia and not us so maybe he is wary of this and that is why his only posts are about to throw shade at GB.
Then we have Monadel who I can’t read because he is new, he proposed the no lynch which is a pro town thing, Could it be that him not being to choose which cop is more trustful is because he doesn't know us? Or is it that he is a mafia that doesn't know what to do and is trying to look town in case Shockey gets lynched? Or is the no lynch plan to go last minute and vote me and win the game?
Either way, I promise you that if we lynch shockey you lynched mafia and it will be easy game because we just need to check one of them and rip mafia.
Another
is there a conclusion to this post?
What do you think about mine and vivax's alignment
On September 21 2020 05:17 Number 4 wrote: Wait mmmmm
If Vivax is town and Monadel is the scum partner is obvious they are going to say that Vivax is green, I’ll get the same check and it is going to be again a long frustrating day discussing. Shockey’s has a partner that will follow him, We (me and ever) do not have a partner even if you believe us, there is a chance that you can change your mind.
If Vivax is mafia Shockey is going to say that he is town and I will get the red check, then the poor Monadel will be between a war of GB + 4 vs Shockey + Vivax
Which scenario looks good to you?
This is what is more likely going to happen next day.
I literally already pointed these scenarios out before you did, the difference here is switching my name out with yours. He’s far aware of the possibilities since it’s been discussed.
That is it. Lynch shock or me like you town should of done fucking yesterday. I'm not holding your hand anymore. Q e solved this stupid shit n0. You want to continue?
On September 22 2020 06:54 Monadel wrote: I like and agree with Point 1. I initially thought shockeys original claim was weird because he asked who hem should check and that just seems like a way to lead mafias night kill. (this is also why i asked how experienced he was)
Point 2 i disagree with in part. I don't see how not following rayns plan is mafia indicative because if IIRC shockey claimed first. (as mafia id rather see what the other person is claiming)
Point 3 is fair but could be said about a lot of people in this game myself included.
Glowingbear what is troubling me most is i dont understand ES point of view as well. They are all doom and gloom yet they have you as a ride or die and damdred is leaning their way. I dont understand why a town cop would be frustrated here. The frustration makes more sense in my head coming from mafia not getting the win than town spending 1 more day on the game.
This is exactly what I've been saying. Both GB and Number 4 have been so pushy to lynch me immediately. Only mafia would like to win the game in that scenario rather than continue to play the game in towns favor. We will lose a town member here sadly, but we will gain that much more in knowledge in who's town or mafia with my check tonight which will help town win. The way I see it is:
We're going to be 3v2 D2. I already know Number 4 is mafia.
By voting out mafia for D2, we'll be in a 3v1 situation for N2. Then mafia will kill another town, and we'll be able to obtain another check confirming the the real mafia.
Mafia kills another townie then N3, and we'll know 100% by then who is mafia, and it'll be a 2v1 situation.
Yet N4 and GB both we're dying to lynch me today because in reality it was their only win chance. This is why they were so pushy all day.
No sane town goes for a instant lynch which can lead to an instant loss for town.
Where is your own case?
Why do you just have to surf over someones opinion?
Really I hope after this game someone learns something from this fiasco.
I didnt say i think youre mafia, I said i find it hard to believe.
If your slot could stop calling everyone stupid that would be sick. Yes the game is very simple from your point of view some has counterclaimed you. Town does not have that same benefit.
In my own instance you telling me that no lynching is bad when ive explained multiple times how it isnt and then going on tangents about setup that are incorrect arn't really helping me think youre actually thinking about the game.
On September 22 2020 09:46 Number 4 wrote: Honestly Monadel, here there are some key points to consider.
1) Who is more likely to blue hunt? Mafia or Town? Mafia is the only one who cares who is a blue so they call kill them at night. Shockey has been doing that all during day 1, asking several times GB if he is the real doctor, doubting dadred, why do you think is this? So he knows who to kill at night. Mafia will always go on its way fishing for power roles while town don't give a fuck and prefer them to be safe.
2) Shockey hasn’t come with ideas on his own. He is just creating stories that it is me and GB.
3) Vivax only came almost at eotd/ eotn ,threw shade first at GB and yesterday at me, then just surfed down and did nothing else, not tried to save the game. There is a thing called “meta” which is like a pattern of actions/ behaviour a Person do even without realizing. Vivax has followed all the steps we have seen so far as “mafia” Vivax. He tends to just leave and hide, not solving the game. Even tho it shouldn’t be followed 100%, we have gave him the benefit of the doubt way too much so at least for me he is 90% mafia now. Vivax is a VERY good player and his posts tend to be very fruitful for town even if he is mistaken or not. There is a saying that Vivax is very good to make himself look town and he is not doing it here. A Town Shockey should be able to call out this but so far for him is always GB who is my partner.
3) You are, at least from my point of view, not taking in consideration GB points, mine, or idk. Shockey nor Vivax hasn’t expresed a case except for saying “they are framing me” to fit an agenda instead of putting facts and working with the info we get from questions and what no. Shockey hasnt even answered GB’s questions. I have told you that is not normal Shockey’s behaviour, Rayn before dying also saif that, GB has said that, Dadred came up with conclusions by the reactions.
Shockey is acting like a martyr that worked so hard for a no lynch, which shouldn’t be. If he was the real cop he would be sure that 4 is mafia and would be building cases, call me out that I am acting strange to convince GB and dadred, etc but HE CANT because my game is so PRO TOWN. Only thing they can tell is that I pushed hard for the lynch but ofc I will because I know he is mafia.
You said frustration comes from mafia, what do you call shockey conming here the moment dadred says he will come and vote him? Instead of getting mad or frustrated he acted like a sad puppy to him.
You gotta be fucking shitting me if you skipped this.
Why dont you ask for shockey for his reads that he promised more than 10 hrs ago?
On September 20 2020 23:29 Number 4 wrote: Best play obviously for ever and me is to lynch shockey.
Now thinking about the two persons missing, Monadel and Vivax I don’t know what to think about it.
A part of me thinks that Mafia Vivax would take advantage of the situation and call 4 mafia always. On the other hand if he called me mafia there is also the probability that GB and Rayn would have call him out because of their reasons to think why Shockey is mafia and not us so maybe he is wary of this and that is why his only posts are about to throw shade at GB.
Then we have Monadel who I can’t read because he is new, he proposed the no lynch which is a pro town thing, Could it be that him not being to choose which cop is more trustful is because he doesn't know us? Or is it that he is a mafia that doesn't know what to do and is trying to look town in case Shockey gets lynched? Or is the no lynch plan to go last minute and vote me and win the game?
Either way, I promise you that if we lynch shockey you lynched mafia and it will be easy game because we just need to check one of them and rip mafia.
Another
is there a conclusion to this post?
What do you think about mine and vivax's alignment
About this I think you are town, I wrote why this is Vivax’s mafia play.
On September 22 2020 09:46 Number 4 wrote: Honestly Monadel, here there are some key points to consider.
1) Who is more likely to blue hunt? Mafia or Town? Mafia is the only one who cares who is a blue so they call kill them at night. Shockey has been doing that all during day 1, asking several times GB if he is the real doctor, doubting dadred, why do you think is this? So he knows who to kill at night. Mafia will always go on its way fishing for power roles while town don't give a fuck and prefer them to be safe.
2) Shockey hasn’t come with ideas on his own. He is just creating stories that it is me and GB.
3) Vivax only came almost at eotd/ eotn ,threw shade first at GB and yesterday at me, then just surfed down and did nothing else, not tried to save the game. There is a thing called “meta” which is like a pattern of actions/ behaviour a Person do even without realizing. Vivax has followed all the steps we have seen so far as “mafia” Vivax. He tends to just leave and hide, not solving the game. Even tho it shouldn’t be followed 100%, we have gave him the benefit of the doubt way too much so at least for me he is 90% mafia now. Vivax is a VERY good player and his posts tend to be very fruitful for town even if he is mistaken or not. There is a saying that Vivax is very good to make himself look town and he is not doing it here. A Town Shockey should be able to call out this but so far for him is always GB who is my partner.
3) You are, at least from my point of view, not taking in consideration GB points, mine, or idk. Shockey nor Vivax hasn’t expresed a case except for saying “they are framing me” to fit an agenda instead of putting facts and working with the info we get from questions and what no. Shockey hasnt even answered GB’s questions. I have told you that is not normal Shockey’s behaviour, Rayn before dying also saif that, GB has said that, Dadred came up with conclusions by the reactions.
Shockey is acting like a martyr that worked so hard for a no lynch, which shouldn’t be. If he was the real cop he would be sure that 4 is mafia and would be building cases, call me out that I am acting strange to convince GB and dadred, etc but HE CANT because my game is so PRO TOWN. Only thing they can tell is that I pushed hard for the lynch but ofc I will because I know he is mafia.
You said frustration comes from mafia, what do you call shockey conming here the moment dadred says he will come and vote him? Instead of getting mad or frustrated he acted like a sad puppy to him.
You gotta be fucking shitting me if you skipped this.
Why dont you ask for shockey for his reads that he promised more than 10 hrs ago?
I didn't skip it. i thought you were implying you wrote a big post then didnt post it. Hydra gets confusing.
I don't really think the bluehunt point is relevant. I don't see a reason anyone would not believe damdred so both the blue roles were outed early so why would mafia be blue hunting.
point 2 is valid but you have also been coming to the thread with "stories"about RBers so yeah
yeah so you think Vivax is the second mafia. I've actually said this too (in the world where youre the real cop) in the last phase.
I am drawing conclusions, if no lynch wasnt an option eysterday i would have voted for shockey but it was an option so I wasnt voting
I didnt say frustration comes from mafia. I was trying to say i dont get why your slot is getting so aggro and spitting chips when shockey has 0 people on his side and you have 2.
On September 22 2020 09:46 Number 4 wrote: Honestly Monadel, here there are some key points to consider.
1) Who is more likely to blue hunt? Mafia or Town? Mafia is the only one who cares who is a blue so they call kill them at night. Shockey has been doing that all during day 1, asking several times GB if he is the real doctor, doubting dadred, why do you think is this? So he knows who to kill at night. Mafia will always go on its way fishing for power roles while town don't give a fuck and prefer them to be safe.
2) Shockey hasn’t come with ideas on his own. He is just creating stories that it is me and GB.
3) Vivax only came almost at eotd/ eotn ,threw shade first at GB and yesterday at me, then just surfed down and did nothing else, not tried to save the game. There is a thing called “meta” which is like a pattern of actions/ behaviour a Person do even without realizing. Vivax has followed all the steps we have seen so far as “mafia” Vivax. He tends to just leave and hide, not solving the game. Even tho it shouldn’t be followed 100%, we have gave him the benefit of the doubt way too much so at least for me he is 90% mafia now. Vivax is a VERY good player and his posts tend to be very fruitful for town even if he is mistaken or not. There is a saying that Vivax is very good to make himself look town and he is not doing it here. A Town Shockey should be able to call out this but so far for him is always GB who is my partner.
3) You are, at least from my point of view, not taking in consideration GB points, mine, or idk. Shockey nor Vivax hasn’t expresed a case except for saying “they are framing me” to fit an agenda instead of putting facts and working with the info we get from questions and what no. Shockey hasnt even answered GB’s questions. I have told you that is not normal Shockey’s behaviour, Rayn before dying also saif that, GB has said that, Dadred came up with conclusions by the reactions.
Shockey is acting like a martyr that worked so hard for a no lynch, which shouldn’t be. If he was the real cop he would be sure that 4 is mafia and would be building cases, call me out that I am acting strange to convince GB and dadred, etc but HE CANT because my game is so PRO TOWN. Only thing they can tell is that I pushed hard for the lynch but ofc I will because I know he is mafia.
You said frustration comes from mafia, what do you call shockey conming here the moment dadred says he will come and vote him? Instead of getting mad or frustrated he acted like a sad puppy to him.
You gotta be fucking shitting me if you skipped this.
Why dont you ask for shockey for his reads that he promised more than 10 hrs ago?
I didn't skip it. i thought you were implying you wrote a big post then didnt post it. Hydra gets confusing.
I don't really think the bluehunt point is relevant. I don't see a reason anyone would not believe damdred so both the blue roles were outed early so why would mafia be blue hunting.
point 2 is valid but you have also been coming to the thread with "stories"about RBers so yeah
yeah so you think Vivax is the second mafia. I've actually said this too (in the world where youre the real cop) in the last phase.
I am drawing conclusions, if no lynch wasnt an option eysterday i would have voted for shockey but it was an option so I wasnt voting
I didnt say frustration comes from mafia. I was trying to say i dont get why your slot is getting so aggro and spitting chips when shockey has 0 people on his side and you have 2.
Blue hunt is always relevant IMO and I am in my right to get mad, when the game is over and you actually see we are the cop I hope you can understand our perspective.
It was a glorious day on 9/17/2020, the town was excited for the Beginning of Fall Parade, there were going to be awesome food carts, and engaging festivities. However, one of the towns started to realize their precious cooking materials are missing. Rayn tries to report it missing, but we instantly saw GB kicks it into full gear, and instantly claims the first "Vote" that wasn't really a vote of the night.
On September 17 2020 23:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am not a cop you idiot.
That doesn’t tell much about your alignment which makes me think you’re mafia trying to make a pun while not actually lying
##Vote:raynpelikoneet
As some one who should of known we started on N0 since it was right above his posts, why did he throw a vote out? Was it foreshadowing who was going to get shot the first night? Especially with how Rayn and GB's interaction went? Did GB take out the hit on Rayn to confirm he wasn't the cop? I mean yea claimed I was the cop, but how much did GB trust that? He obviously doesn't trust it right now since he keeps claimingg N4 is really the cop and pushing for my lynch.
I would also like to show that GB was very enthusiastic to get cop to claim.
On September 18 2020 02:49 GlowingBear wrote: I mean, I get it: the REAL COP claiming he is the cop is good. But townies saying they AREN'T the cop is bad. Right?
why? if the real cop is an idiot and thinks he shouldnt claim then it forces his to do the right thing. Like right now, if we assume me you and dadred are town there are only two more townies who can be the cop. Mafia knows who is who alignment wise so.... What would you do if you hadn't posted yet as a cop?
3x Vanilla Townie 1x Cop 1x Doctor 2x Mafia Goon
If 4 townies says they are not the cop, mafia already knows who the cop is, and town doesn't. Doctor can miss the real cop due to this. Mafia can't.
It also narrows the nightkill to 4 people if they want to take a shot on the doctor.
In other words: finding the cop with a cop claim is positive for town. finding the cop by narrowing the possibilities is not good for town.
Which I propose:
REAL COP, CLAIM ASAP Townies, do not tell your role.
Soon after, a Trfel, sorry I mean Number 4 joins the game, a what soon would feel like a schizophrenic person trying to "call the shots".
On September 18 2020 04:53 Number 4 wrote: Correction d1*
They also thought it was D1 vote. Was this a scum slip showing that GB and N4 thought it was D1 or discussing D1 in their QT?
On September 18 2020 04:10 Number 4 wrote: Detective Glowing Bear, I present myself ready for duty to destroy the mafia guys.
You might call me Number 4 from now on.
Wait, Copcake?
I am eversince.
And I'm inevitable
Good!
Now tell me sme of your reads?
^^
Rayn mafia Damdy meh You and CopCake detectives forever. Who can it be now? Monadel newbie on the forums, may be a bit intimidated to post more, but for now meh. Still waiting Vivax to own the game once more
Here you can see once again that GB decided to paint Rayn as mafia based on the cop claim, even tho he would rather have the cop claim in an earlier post.
On September 18 2020 04:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay so much for the confusion, just google number four + klaus + ben. I had my laughs :D
Let's play mafia. Monadel do you think anything sticks out as fishy atm?
No I don't.
I think what Glowingbear is saying is an unescessary over explanation on "the cop should claim" but I dont think it makes him mafia
Why?
Actually I agree. The cop gets n0 check then they need do claim.. 5v2 we get a red check for the cop is a good trade. I think cop shouldn't claim until d2 though.
Rayn why push for a cop claim n0?
To be fair I like the idea of having cop claiming n0 so the doctor knows who to protect. It either forces mafia to fakeclaim or doctor hunt. They will have 25% chance of hitting doctor while we guarantee we have a cop with a check day1.
The problem is when we don't have a clear claim and the doctor can't find out who the cop is because they "assume" it's someone else. This only helps mafia.
I was about to ask for more reasons why cop should claim N0, but I guess, it just needs to be done, and I really prefer town winning if that's the case here. I really want to trust Rayn and yourself GB for this claim, and really hope that I'm doing the right thing by doing so.
Hi. I'm finally a blue role (cop here [not copcake]) in one of Hapa's games. Who should I check on my N0 action? I was thinking of Monadel since he's new or Number4 since it's a hydra role.
It takes Number 4 three pages, on page 10, to counter claim me.
On September 18 2020 05:56 Number 4 wrote: Ok, Eversince and me agreed to do this. We are the cop. Shockey’s claim is bullshit.
I was thinking in playing a little bit and do not claim, then when I read GB’s post about the 5v2 let me realize that if Shockey is mafia fake claiming then we are screwed since we need the protection of the doctor now because ever asked shockey to talk in two posts so that is kinda an out.
I honestly think GB is mafia, and that is the check I sent btw.
So that is all.
I wrote I was going to check them and they both flipped and decided to just attack me, and make sure that I was going to get voted off D1.
If shockey is mafia he probably now knows ever is more likely the cop for how she reacted, since you are a very vocal person and ever is more of a quiet/cute kind of person.
If shockeyy is mafia???????????????????
Notice the scum slips. They made sure to kill Rayn first since he's always their biggest threat even after I claimed.
On September 18 2020 06:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why are you, #4, guessing if shockeyy is a cop or not? Answer please.
On September 18 2020 06:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: so you guys went from playing into mafias hands into outing yourself into second guessing the mafia dude??????
On September 18 2020 06:35 Number 4 wrote: Rayn hun, shush. We are the cop. You are right but I kinda understand the point. You'll have proof soon.
-es
What proof was that? Rayn ended up dying, so they didn't need to show any proof.
On September 18 2020 05:56 Number 4 wrote: Ok, Eversince and me agreed to do this. We are the cop. Shockey’s claim is bullshit.
I was thinking in playing a little bit and do not claim, then when I read GB’s post about the 5v2 let me realize that if Shockey is mafia fake claiming then we are screwed since we need the protection of the doctor now because ever asked shockey to talk in two posts so that is kinda an out.
I honestly think GB is mafia, and that is the check I sent btw.
So that is all.
So You've thought rayn was fakeclaiming, no suspicions whatsoever And that Shockey's claim was bullshit and that's why is mafia And NEITHER of you realized rayn said he is NOT the cop.
I don't think I follow this
I also posted I was going to check hydra N0, and now they're trying to counter claim me. FISHY AS FUCK.
That's part one of a three part series. You'll receive them little by little as the night progresses. I obviously want to use it wisely as we're entering a phase where I think myself and rest of the town aside from the two mafia (N4 and GB) are entering dangerous territory and want to make sure all the details are out before any of us get killed.
It was a glorious day on 9/17/2020, the town was excited for the Beginning of Fall Parade, there were going to be awesome food carts, and engaging festivities. However, one of the towns started to realize their precious cooking materials are missing. Rayn tries to report it missing, but we instantly saw GB kicks it into full gear, and instantly claims the first "Vote" that wasn't really a vote of the night.
On September 17 2020 23:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am not a cop you idiot.
That doesn’t tell much about your alignment which makes me think you’re mafia trying to make a pun while not actually lying
##Vote:raynpelikoneet
As some one who should of known we started on N0 since it was right above his posts, why did he throw a vote out? Was it foreshadowing who was going to get shot the first night? Especially with how Rayn and GB's interaction went? Did GB take out the hit on Rayn to confirm he wasn't the cop? I mean yea claimed I was the cop, but how much did GB trust that? He obviously doesn't trust it right now since he keeps claimingg N4 is really the cop and pushing for my lynch.
I would also like to show that GB was very enthusiastic to get cop to claim.
On September 18 2020 02:49 GlowingBear wrote: I mean, I get it: the REAL COP claiming he is the cop is good. But townies saying they AREN'T the cop is bad. Right?
why? if the real cop is an idiot and thinks he shouldnt claim then it forces his to do the right thing. Like right now, if we assume me you and dadred are town there are only two more townies who can be the cop. Mafia knows who is who alignment wise so.... What would you do if you hadn't posted yet as a cop?
3x Vanilla Townie 1x Cop 1x Doctor 2x Mafia Goon
If 4 townies says they are not the cop, mafia already knows who the cop is, and town doesn't. Doctor can miss the real cop due to this. Mafia can't.
It also narrows the nightkill to 4 people if they want to take a shot on the doctor.
In other words: finding the cop with a cop claim is positive for town. finding the cop by narrowing the possibilities is not good for town.
Which I propose:
REAL COP, CLAIM ASAP Townies, do not tell your role.
Soon after, a Trfel, sorry I mean Number 4 joins the game, a what soon would feel like a schizophrenic person trying to "call the shots".
On September 18 2020 04:10 Number 4 wrote: Detective Glowing Bear, I present myself ready for duty to destroy the mafia guys.
You might call me Number 4 from now on.
Wait, Copcake?
I am eversince.
And I'm inevitable
Good!
Now tell me sme of your reads?
^^
Rayn mafia Damdy meh You and CopCake detectives forever. Who can it be now? Monadel newbie on the forums, may be a bit intimidated to post more, but for now meh. Still waiting Vivax to own the game once more
Here you can see once again that GB decided to paint Rayn as mafia based on the cop claim, even tho he would rather have the cop claim in an earlier post.
On September 18 2020 04:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay so much for the confusion, just google number four + klaus + ben. I had my laughs :D
Let's play mafia. Monadel do you think anything sticks out as fishy atm?
No I don't.
I think what Glowingbear is saying is an unescessary over explanation on "the cop should claim" but I dont think it makes him mafia
Why?
Actually I agree. The cop gets n0 check then they need do claim.. 5v2 we get a red check for the cop is a good trade. I think cop shouldn't claim until d2 though.
Rayn why push for a cop claim n0?
To be fair I like the idea of having cop claiming n0 so the doctor knows who to protect. It either forces mafia to fakeclaim or doctor hunt. They will have 25% chance of hitting doctor while we guarantee we have a cop with a check day1.
The problem is when we don't have a clear claim and the doctor can't find out who the cop is because they "assume" it's someone else. This only helps mafia.
I was about to ask for more reasons why cop should claim N0, but I guess, it just needs to be done, and I really prefer town winning if that's the case here. I really want to trust Rayn and yourself GB for this claim, and really hope that I'm doing the right thing by doing so.
Hi. I'm finally a blue role (cop here [not copcake]) in one of Hapa's games. Who should I check on my N0 action? I was thinking of Monadel since he's new or Number4 since it's a hydra role.
It takes Number 4 three pages, on page 10, to counter claim me.
On September 18 2020 05:56 Number 4 wrote: Ok, Eversince and me agreed to do this. We are the cop. Shockey’s claim is bullshit.
I was thinking in playing a little bit and do not claim, then when I read GB’s post about the 5v2 let me realize that if Shockey is mafia fake claiming then we are screwed since we need the protection of the doctor now because ever asked shockey to talk in two posts so that is kinda an out.
I honestly think GB is mafia, and that is the check I sent btw.
So that is all.
I wrote I was going to check them and they both flipped and decided to just attack me, and make sure that I was going to get voted off D1.
If shockey is mafia he probably now knows ever is more likely the cop for how she reacted, since you are a very vocal person and ever is more of a quiet/cute kind of person.
If shockeyy is mafia???????????????????
Notice the scum slips. They made sure to kill Rayn first since he's always their biggest threat even after I claimed.
On September 18 2020 06:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: so you guys went from playing into mafias hands into outing yourself into second guessing the mafia dude??????
On September 18 2020 06:37 GlowingBear wrote: Shockey, what do you think of Number 4's claim?
On September 18 2020 06:05 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On September 18 2020 06:01 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 18 2020 05:56 Number 4 wrote: Ok, Eversince and me agreed to do this. We are the cop. Shockey’s claim is bullshit.
I was thinking in playing a little bit and do not claim, then when I read GB’s post about the 5v2 let me realize that if Shockey is mafia fake claiming then we are screwed since we need the protection of the doctor now because ever asked shockey to talk in two posts so that is kinda an out.
I honestly think GB is mafia, and that is the check I sent btw.
So that is all.
So You've thought rayn was fakeclaiming, no suspicions whatsoever And that Shockey's claim was bullshit and that's why is mafia And NEITHER of you realized rayn said he is NOT the cop.
I don't think I follow this
I also posted I was going to check hydra N0, and now they're trying to counter claim me. FISHY AS FUCK.
I also think it's
And the rest is history.
I love your case. It's a bunch of quotes with things that makes no one mafia. The best part of it is the title, which you made bigger than mine and now I'm triggered. I need to have the biggest or we'll have a problem.
On September 22 2020 12:33 ShoCkeyy wrote: Idk maybe? Maybe I'll check you.
That's a good choice, too
But it seems that town prefers you to check Vivax so could you please confirm? If you're town, it's in your best interest to be checking the same person as N4.
This is 100% true. We told you what to do. Most obvious shit ever. Town wasted a whole day on no Lynch because it gives us more time. Bullshit. We wasted a day because town didn't have the balls to Lynch scum.
Your welcome for the truth from two women that have more initiative than everyone else.
Fine. I did my best. If you want to lose because you're a moron, have at it.
On September 22 2020 12:33 ShoCkeyy wrote: Idk maybe? Maybe I'll check you.
That's a good choice, too
But it seems that town prefers you to check Vivax so could you please confirm? If you're town, it's in your best interest to be checking the same person as N4.
No point. I already checked you. Why confirm confirmed town?
On September 22 2020 12:36 Number 4 wrote: This is 100% true. We told you what to do. Most obvious shit ever. Town wasted a whole day on no Lynch because it gives us more time. Bullshit. We wasted a day because town didn't have the balls to Lynch scum.
Your welcome for the truth from two women that have more initiative than everyone else.
Fine. I did my best. If you want to lose because you're a moron, have at it.
On September 22 2020 12:33 ShoCkeyy wrote: Idk maybe? Maybe I'll check you.
That's a good choice, too
But it seems that town prefers you to check Vivax so could you please confirm? If you're town, it's in your best interest to be checking the same person as N4.
No point. I already checked you. Why confirm confirmed town?
-es
Because I am confirmed to you but 99% confirmed to others. If Shockey is actually the town cop, he will have a green check and game will be able to proceed without him having to resort in saying that we are a team.
It was a glorious day on 9/17/2020, the town was excited for the Beginning of Fall Parade, there were going to be awesome food carts, and engaging festivities. However, one of the towns started to realize their precious cooking materials are missing. Rayn tries to report it missing, but we instantly saw GB kicks it into full gear, and instantly claims the first "Vote" that wasn't really a vote of the night.
On September 18 2020 00:36 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 17 2020 23:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am not a cop you idiot.
That doesn’t tell much about your alignment which makes me think you’re mafia trying to make a pun while not actually lying
##Vote:raynpelikoneet
As some one who should of known we started on N0 since it was right above his posts, why did he throw a vote out? Was it foreshadowing who was going to get shot the first night? Especially with how Rayn and GB's interaction went? Did GB take out the hit on Rayn to confirm he wasn't the cop? I mean yea claimed I was the cop, but how much did GB trust that? He obviously doesn't trust it right now since he keeps claimingg N4 is really the cop and pushing for my lynch.
I would also like to show that GB was very enthusiastic to get cop to claim.
On September 18 2020 04:10 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 18 2020 03:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 18 2020 02:49 GlowingBear wrote: I mean, I get it: the REAL COP claiming he is the cop is good. But townies saying they AREN'T the cop is bad. Right?
why? if the real cop is an idiot and thinks he shouldnt claim then it forces his to do the right thing. Like right now, if we assume me you and dadred are town there are only two more townies who can be the cop. Mafia knows who is who alignment wise so.... What would you do if you hadn't posted yet as a cop?
3x Vanilla Townie 1x Cop 1x Doctor 2x Mafia Goon
If 4 townies says they are not the cop, mafia already knows who the cop is, and town doesn't. Doctor can miss the real cop due to this. Mafia can't.
It also narrows the nightkill to 4 people if they want to take a shot on the doctor.
In other words: finding the cop with a cop claim is positive for town. finding the cop by narrowing the possibilities is not good for town.
Which I propose:
REAL COP, CLAIM ASAP Townies, do not tell your role.
Soon after, a Trfel, sorry I mean Number 4 joins the game, a what soon would feel like a schizophrenic person trying to "call the shots".
On September 18 2020 04:53 Number 4 wrote: Correction d1*
They also thought it was D1 vote. Was this a scum slip showing that GB and N4 thought it was D1 or discussing D1 in their QT?
On September 18 2020 04:58 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:42 Number 4 wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:31 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:16 Number 4 wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:13 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:10 Number 4 wrote: Detective Glowing Bear, I present myself ready for duty to destroy the mafia guys.
You might call me Number 4 from now on.
Wait, Copcake?
I am eversince.
And I'm inevitable
Good!
Now tell me sme of your reads?
^^
Rayn mafia Damdy meh You and CopCake detectives forever. Who can it be now? Monadel newbie on the forums, may be a bit intimidated to post more, but for now meh. Still waiting Vivax to own the game once more
Here you can see once again that GB decided to paint Rayn as mafia based on the cop claim, even tho he would rather have the cop claim in an earlier post.
Soon after I claimed cop on page 7.
On September 18 2020 05:10 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On September 18 2020 05:02 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:52 Number 4 wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:30 Monadel wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay so much for the confusion, just google number four + klaus + ben. I had my laughs :D
Let's play mafia. Monadel do you think anything sticks out as fishy atm?
No I don't.
I think what Glowingbear is saying is an unescessary over explanation on "the cop should claim" but I dont think it makes him mafia
Why?
Actually I agree. The cop gets n0 check then they need do claim.. 5v2 we get a red check for the cop is a good trade. I think cop shouldn't claim until d2 though.
Rayn why push for a cop claim n0?
To be fair I like the idea of having cop claiming n0 so the doctor knows who to protect. It either forces mafia to fakeclaim or doctor hunt. They will have 25% chance of hitting doctor while we guarantee we have a cop with a check day1.
The problem is when we don't have a clear claim and the doctor can't find out who the cop is because they "assume" it's someone else. This only helps mafia.
I was about to ask for more reasons why cop should claim N0, but I guess, it just needs to be done, and I really prefer town winning if that's the case here. I really want to trust Rayn and yourself GB for this claim, and really hope that I'm doing the right thing by doing so.
Hi. I'm finally a blue role (cop here [not copcake]) in one of Hapa's games. Who should I check on my N0 action? I was thinking of Monadel since he's new or Number4 since it's a hydra role.
It takes Number 4 three pages, on page 10, to counter claim me.
On September 18 2020 05:56 Number 4 wrote: Ok, Eversince and me agreed to do this. We are the cop. Shockey’s claim is bullshit.
I was thinking in playing a little bit and do not claim, then when I read GB’s post about the 5v2 let me realize that if Shockey is mafia fake claiming then we are screwed since we need the protection of the doctor now because ever asked shockey to talk in two posts so that is kinda an out.
I honestly think GB is mafia, and that is the check I sent btw.
So that is all.
I wrote I was going to check them and they both flipped and decided to just attack me, and make sure that I was going to get voted off D1.
On September 18 2020 06:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 18 2020 06:15 Number 4 wrote:
If shockey is mafia he probably now knows ever is more likely the cop for how she reacted, since you are a very vocal person and ever is more of a quiet/cute kind of person.
If shockeyy is mafia???????????????????
Notice the scum slips. They made sure to kill Rayn first since he's always their biggest threat even after I claimed.
On September 18 2020 06:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why are you, #4, guessing if shockeyy is a cop or not? Answer please.
On September 18 2020 06:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: so you guys went from playing into mafias hands into outing yourself into second guessing the mafia dude??????
On September 18 2020 06:35 Number 4 wrote: Rayn hun, shush. We are the cop. You are right but I kinda understand the point. You'll have proof soon.
-es
What proof was that? Rayn ended up dying, so they didn't need to show any proof.
I warned the town.
On September 18 2020 06:42 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On September 18 2020 06:37 GlowingBear wrote: Shockey, what do you think of Number 4's claim?
On September 18 2020 06:05 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On September 18 2020 06:01 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 18 2020 05:56 Number 4 wrote: Ok, Eversince and me agreed to do this. We are the cop. Shockey’s claim is bullshit.
I was thinking in playing a little bit and do not claim, then when I read GB’s post about the 5v2 let me realize that if Shockey is mafia fake claiming then we are screwed since we need the protection of the doctor now because ever asked shockey to talk in two posts so that is kinda an out.
I honestly think GB is mafia, and that is the check I sent btw.
So that is all.
So You've thought rayn was fakeclaiming, no suspicions whatsoever And that Shockey's claim was bullshit and that's why is mafia And NEITHER of you realized rayn said he is NOT the cop.
I don't think I follow this
I also posted I was going to check hydra N0, and now they're trying to counter claim me. FISHY AS FUCK.
I also think it's
And the rest is history.
I love your case. It's a bunch of quotes with things that makes no one mafia. The best part of it is the title, which you made bigger than mine and now I'm triggered. I need to have the biggest or we'll have a problem.
Triggered cause I caught you? Reposting my case here in these quotes so you and N4 don't spam it out of existence.
It was a glorious day on 9/17/2020, the town was excited for the Beginning of Fall Parade, there were going to be awesome food carts, and engaging festivities. However, one of the towns started to realize their precious cooking materials are missing. Rayn tries to report it missing, but we instantly saw GB kicks it into full gear, and instantly claims the first "Vote" that wasn't really a vote of the night.
On September 18 2020 00:36 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 17 2020 23:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am not a cop you idiot.
That doesn’t tell much about your alignment which makes me think you’re mafia trying to make a pun while not actually lying
##Vote:raynpelikoneet
As some one who should of known we started on N0 since it was right above his posts, why did he throw a vote out? Was it foreshadowing who was going to get shot the first night? Especially with how Rayn and GB's interaction went? Did GB take out the hit on Rayn to confirm he wasn't the cop? I mean yea claimed I was the cop, but how much did GB trust that? He obviously doesn't trust it right now since he keeps claimingg N4 is really the cop and pushing for my lynch.
I would also like to show that GB was very enthusiastic to get cop to claim.
On September 18 2020 04:10 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 18 2020 03:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 18 2020 02:49 GlowingBear wrote: I mean, I get it: the REAL COP claiming he is the cop is good. But townies saying they AREN'T the cop is bad. Right?
why? if the real cop is an idiot and thinks he shouldnt claim then it forces his to do the right thing. Like right now, if we assume me you and dadred are town there are only two more townies who can be the cop. Mafia knows who is who alignment wise so.... What would you do if you hadn't posted yet as a cop?
3x Vanilla Townie 1x Cop 1x Doctor 2x Mafia Goon
If 4 townies says they are not the cop, mafia already knows who the cop is, and town doesn't. Doctor can miss the real cop due to this. Mafia can't.
It also narrows the nightkill to 4 people if they want to take a shot on the doctor.
In other words: finding the cop with a cop claim is positive for town. finding the cop by narrowing the possibilities is not good for town.
Which I propose:
REAL COP, CLAIM ASAP Townies, do not tell your role.
Soon after, a Trfel, sorry I mean Number 4 joins the game, a what soon would feel like a schizophrenic person trying to "call the shots".
On September 18 2020 04:53 Number 4 wrote: Correction d1*
They also thought it was D1 vote. Was this a scum slip showing that GB and N4 thought it was D1 or discussing D1 in their QT?
On September 18 2020 04:58 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:42 Number 4 wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:31 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:16 Number 4 wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:13 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:10 Number 4 wrote: Detective Glowing Bear, I present myself ready for duty to destroy the mafia guys.
You might call me Number 4 from now on.
Wait, Copcake?
I am eversince.
And I'm inevitable
Good!
Now tell me sme of your reads?
^^
Rayn mafia Damdy meh You and CopCake detectives forever. Who can it be now? Monadel newbie on the forums, may be a bit intimidated to post more, but for now meh. Still waiting Vivax to own the game once more
Here you can see once again that GB decided to paint Rayn as mafia based on the cop claim, even tho he would rather have the cop claim in an earlier post.
Soon after I claimed cop on page 7.
On September 18 2020 05:10 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On September 18 2020 05:02 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:52 Number 4 wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:30 Monadel wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay so much for the confusion, just google number four + klaus + ben. I had my laughs :D
Let's play mafia. Monadel do you think anything sticks out as fishy atm?
No I don't.
I think what Glowingbear is saying is an unescessary over explanation on "the cop should claim" but I dont think it makes him mafia
Why?
Actually I agree. The cop gets n0 check then they need do claim.. 5v2 we get a red check for the cop is a good trade. I think cop shouldn't claim until d2 though.
Rayn why push for a cop claim n0?
To be fair I like the idea of having cop claiming n0 so the doctor knows who to protect. It either forces mafia to fakeclaim or doctor hunt. They will have 25% chance of hitting doctor while we guarantee we have a cop with a check day1.
The problem is when we don't have a clear claim and the doctor can't find out who the cop is because they "assume" it's someone else. This only helps mafia.
I was about to ask for more reasons why cop should claim N0, but I guess, it just needs to be done, and I really prefer town winning if that's the case here. I really want to trust Rayn and yourself GB for this claim, and really hope that I'm doing the right thing by doing so.
Hi. I'm finally a blue role (cop here [not copcake]) in one of Hapa's games. Who should I check on my N0 action? I was thinking of Monadel since he's new or Number4 since it's a hydra role.
It takes Number 4 three pages, on page 10, to counter claim me.
On September 18 2020 05:56 Number 4 wrote: Ok, Eversince and me agreed to do this. We are the cop. Shockey’s claim is bullshit.
I was thinking in playing a little bit and do not claim, then when I read GB’s post about the 5v2 let me realize that if Shockey is mafia fake claiming then we are screwed since we need the protection of the doctor now because ever asked shockey to talk in two posts so that is kinda an out.
I honestly think GB is mafia, and that is the check I sent btw.
So that is all.
I wrote I was going to check them and they both flipped and decided to just attack me, and make sure that I was going to get voted off D1.
On September 18 2020 06:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 18 2020 06:15 Number 4 wrote:
If shockey is mafia he probably now knows ever is more likely the cop for how she reacted, since you are a very vocal person and ever is more of a quiet/cute kind of person.
If shockeyy is mafia???????????????????
Notice the scum slips. They made sure to kill Rayn first since he's always their biggest threat even after I claimed.
On September 18 2020 06:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why are you, #4, guessing if shockeyy is a cop or not? Answer please.
On September 18 2020 06:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: so you guys went from playing into mafias hands into outing yourself into second guessing the mafia dude??????
On September 18 2020 06:35 Number 4 wrote: Rayn hun, shush. We are the cop. You are right but I kinda understand the point. You'll have proof soon.
-es
What proof was that? Rayn ended up dying, so they didn't need to show any proof.
I warned the town.
On September 18 2020 06:42 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On September 18 2020 06:37 GlowingBear wrote: Shockey, what do you think of Number 4's claim?
On September 18 2020 06:05 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On September 18 2020 06:01 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 18 2020 05:56 Number 4 wrote: Ok, Eversince and me agreed to do this. We are the cop. Shockey’s claim is bullshit.
I was thinking in playing a little bit and do not claim, then when I read GB’s post about the 5v2 let me realize that if Shockey is mafia fake claiming then we are screwed since we need the protection of the doctor now because ever asked shockey to talk in two posts so that is kinda an out.
I honestly think GB is mafia, and that is the check I sent btw.
So that is all.
So You've thought rayn was fakeclaiming, no suspicions whatsoever And that Shockey's claim was bullshit and that's why is mafia And NEITHER of you realized rayn said he is NOT the cop.
I don't think I follow this
I also posted I was going to check hydra N0, and now they're trying to counter claim me. FISHY AS FUCK.
I also think it's
And the rest is history.
I love your case. It's a bunch of quotes with things that makes no one mafia. The best part of it is the title, which you made bigger than mine and now I'm triggered. I need to have the biggest or we'll have a problem.
Triggered cause I caught you? Reposting my case here in these quotes so you and N4 don't spam it out of existence.
Fun fact: you quoted rayn fishing for reactions and his conclusions was we are town.
It was a glorious day on 9/17/2020, the town was excited for the Beginning of Fall Parade, there were going to be awesome food carts, and engaging festivities. However, one of the towns started to realize their precious cooking materials are missing. Rayn tries to report it missing, but we instantly saw GB kicks it into full gear, and instantly claims the first "Vote" that wasn't really a vote of the night.
On September 18 2020 00:36 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 17 2020 23:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am not a cop you idiot.
That doesn’t tell much about your alignment which makes me think you’re mafia trying to make a pun while not actually lying
##Vote:raynpelikoneet
As some one who should of known we started on N0 since it was right above his posts, why did he throw a vote out? Was it foreshadowing who was going to get shot the first night? Especially with how Rayn and GB's interaction went? Did GB take out the hit on Rayn to confirm he wasn't the cop? I mean yea claimed I was the cop, but how much did GB trust that? He obviously doesn't trust it right now since he keeps claimingg N4 is really the cop and pushing for my lynch.
I would also like to show that GB was very enthusiastic to get cop to claim.
On September 18 2020 04:10 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 18 2020 03:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 18 2020 02:49 GlowingBear wrote: I mean, I get it: the REAL COP claiming he is the cop is good. But townies saying they AREN'T the cop is bad. Right?
why? if the real cop is an idiot and thinks he shouldnt claim then it forces his to do the right thing. Like right now, if we assume me you and dadred are town there are only two more townies who can be the cop. Mafia knows who is who alignment wise so.... What would you do if you hadn't posted yet as a cop?
3x Vanilla Townie 1x Cop 1x Doctor 2x Mafia Goon
If 4 townies says they are not the cop, mafia already knows who the cop is, and town doesn't. Doctor can miss the real cop due to this. Mafia can't.
It also narrows the nightkill to 4 people if they want to take a shot on the doctor.
In other words: finding the cop with a cop claim is positive for town. finding the cop by narrowing the possibilities is not good for town.
Which I propose:
REAL COP, CLAIM ASAP Townies, do not tell your role.
Soon after, a Trfel, sorry I mean Number 4 joins the game, a what soon would feel like a schizophrenic person trying to "call the shots".
On September 18 2020 04:53 Number 4 wrote: Correction d1*
They also thought it was D1 vote. Was this a scum slip showing that GB and N4 thought it was D1 or discussing D1 in their QT?
On September 18 2020 04:58 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:42 Number 4 wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:31 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:16 Number 4 wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:13 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:10 Number 4 wrote: Detective Glowing Bear, I present myself ready for duty to destroy the mafia guys.
You might call me Number 4 from now on.
Wait, Copcake?
I am eversince.
And I'm inevitable
Good!
Now tell me sme of your reads?
^^
Rayn mafia Damdy meh You and CopCake detectives forever. Who can it be now? Monadel newbie on the forums, may be a bit intimidated to post more, but for now meh. Still waiting Vivax to own the game once more
Here you can see once again that GB decided to paint Rayn as mafia based on the cop claim, even tho he would rather have the cop claim in an earlier post.
Soon after I claimed cop on page 7.
On September 18 2020 05:10 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On September 18 2020 05:02 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:52 Number 4 wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:30 Monadel wrote:
On September 18 2020 04:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay so much for the confusion, just google number four + klaus + ben. I had my laughs :D
Let's play mafia. Monadel do you think anything sticks out as fishy atm?
No I don't.
I think what Glowingbear is saying is an unescessary over explanation on "the cop should claim" but I dont think it makes him mafia
Why?
Actually I agree. The cop gets n0 check then they need do claim.. 5v2 we get a red check for the cop is a good trade. I think cop shouldn't claim until d2 though.
Rayn why push for a cop claim n0?
To be fair I like the idea of having cop claiming n0 so the doctor knows who to protect. It either forces mafia to fakeclaim or doctor hunt. They will have 25% chance of hitting doctor while we guarantee we have a cop with a check day1.
The problem is when we don't have a clear claim and the doctor can't find out who the cop is because they "assume" it's someone else. This only helps mafia.
I was about to ask for more reasons why cop should claim N0, but I guess, it just needs to be done, and I really prefer town winning if that's the case here. I really want to trust Rayn and yourself GB for this claim, and really hope that I'm doing the right thing by doing so.
Hi. I'm finally a blue role (cop here [not copcake]) in one of Hapa's games. Who should I check on my N0 action? I was thinking of Monadel since he's new or Number4 since it's a hydra role.
It takes Number 4 three pages, on page 10, to counter claim me.
On September 18 2020 05:56 Number 4 wrote: Ok, Eversince and me agreed to do this. We are the cop. Shockey’s claim is bullshit.
I was thinking in playing a little bit and do not claim, then when I read GB’s post about the 5v2 let me realize that if Shockey is mafia fake claiming then we are screwed since we need the protection of the doctor now because ever asked shockey to talk in two posts so that is kinda an out.
I honestly think GB is mafia, and that is the check I sent btw.
So that is all.
I wrote I was going to check them and they both flipped and decided to just attack me, and make sure that I was going to get voted off D1.
On September 18 2020 06:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 18 2020 06:15 Number 4 wrote:
If shockey is mafia he probably now knows ever is more likely the cop for how she reacted, since you are a very vocal person and ever is more of a quiet/cute kind of person.
If shockeyy is mafia???????????????????
Notice the scum slips. They made sure to kill Rayn first since he's always their biggest threat even after I claimed.
On September 18 2020 06:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why are you, #4, guessing if shockeyy is a cop or not? Answer please.
On September 18 2020 06:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: so you guys went from playing into mafias hands into outing yourself into second guessing the mafia dude??????
On September 18 2020 06:35 Number 4 wrote: Rayn hun, shush. We are the cop. You are right but I kinda understand the point. You'll have proof soon.
-es
What proof was that? Rayn ended up dying, so they didn't need to show any proof.
I warned the town.
On September 18 2020 06:42 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On September 18 2020 06:37 GlowingBear wrote: Shockey, what do you think of Number 4's claim?
On September 18 2020 06:05 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On September 18 2020 06:01 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 18 2020 05:56 Number 4 wrote: Ok, Eversince and me agreed to do this. We are the cop. Shockey’s claim is bullshit.
I was thinking in playing a little bit and do not claim, then when I read GB’s post about the 5v2 let me realize that if Shockey is mafia fake claiming then we are screwed since we need the protection of the doctor now because ever asked shockey to talk in two posts so that is kinda an out.
I honestly think GB is mafia, and that is the check I sent btw.
So that is all.
So You've thought rayn was fakeclaiming, no suspicions whatsoever And that Shockey's claim was bullshit and that's why is mafia And NEITHER of you realized rayn said he is NOT the cop.
I don't think I follow this
I also posted I was going to check hydra N0, and now they're trying to counter claim me. FISHY AS FUCK.
I also think it's
And the rest is history.
I love your case. It's a bunch of quotes with things that makes no one mafia. The best part of it is the title, which you made bigger than mine and now I'm triggered. I need to have the biggest or we'll have a problem.
Triggered cause I caught you? Reposting my case here in these quotes so you and N4 don't spam it out of existence.
If there's something that will never happen in this game is having me triggered, Shockey I don't know if you've noticed but although I'm convinced you're mafia, I'm treating you as possibly town every time, because there is 1% chance I'm wrong. I'm trying to reason with you by asking you questions. You could cooperate if you're town. If you want, I'll repost your case on every page. I'm sorry if you're town, Shockey, but your case is shit
This is instant majority lynch - once a player hits 3 votes, the player is lynched and the day immediately ends. You can vote for a ##no-lynch. Maximum day length is 72 hours.
Vivax is town on my check. I thought we were waiting? wtf happened? Why did N4 end up trying to claim check so fast, I thought she was following a plan? She has a "red" check 100% and still votes for me who she hasn't actually checked. Quite ridiculous.
On September 23 2020 05:35 ShoCkeyy wrote: Vivax is town on my check. I thought we were waiting? wtf happened? Why did N4 end up trying to claim check so fast, I thought she was following a plan? She has a "red" check 100% and still votes for me who she hasn't actually checked. Quite ridiculous.
##vote Number 4
Why would we waste a check on you? I caught you n0.
This is instant majority lynch - once a player hits 2 votes, the player is lynched and the day immediately ends. You can vote for a ##no-lynch. Maximum day length is 72 hours.
This is instant majority lynch - once a player hits 2 votes, the player is lynched and the day immediately ends. You can vote for a ##no-lynch. Maximum day length is 72 hours.
Shout out to Shockeyy for an insane effort in this game.
Overall, I love this setup, but I believe it is quite town favored. I would tweak it in the next game (per Rayn's suggestion) to preventing doctor from acting on N0.
On September 24 2020 04:59 ShoCkeyy wrote: Yea, for mafia, if they don't shoot a blue role on N0 it's rough after : )
Thanks for the fun game. Look forward to the next one.
You've played an amazing game. I was starting to second doubt N4 claims when they posted their Vivax check.
I think things could have been different if Vivax played the game as he normally would. A second doctor claim could have won the game. Also, you coming with a red check on Vivax could also make things different.
But mostly, two things made town win: 1) Setup 2) Town's ability to identify themselves.
As Hapa said, setup must be tweaked. Not letting doctor heal the same target twice is one of them.I'm sure a balance will be achieved.
Town correctly organized themselves n0. Rayn could identify townies correctly, I could, N4 could, even the newcomer Monadiel could. We started day1 with basically every townie on the correct side. Game was auto from there.
I'm a bit upset my case wasn't taken in full consideration, though. There is enough evidence there for why Shockey had fakeclaimed and why N4's claim was true.
On September 24 2020 05:15 Number 4 wrote: I also think mafia would have been way better if they didnt claim.
Only because of circumstances. Nobody knew Vivax would not play. Also, we had very vocal townies correctly identifying the fakeclaim. In other circumstances, we would only have two people that claimed cop spamming the thread without the game going forward.
Thanks Hapa for hosting! Thank you copcake for playing with me :3! Shock you killed it this game! Nice effort friend! I do think this is a real swing setup.. But I can't figure out how small game can be balanced here.
09-17-2020 02:25 PM ET (US) With GB and Rayn in this game, they're 100% already going to be against each other Lol.
idk if you know but i think i have a good way of reading him. I am usually only against GB because he is mafia and i am not (and he somehow gets away with it...)
Vivax 09-21-2020 02:19 PM ET (US) This setup leaves little room for acting :< 43 shocster 09-21-2020 02:16 PM ET (US) In all honesty my time is limited. I mean I think you can easily win. or just push no vote. Monadel and Damdred are fine with no voting. 42 Vivax 09-21-2020 02:16 PM ET (US) Or maybe I'll yolo a doc claim during the night with some shitty excuse.
Don't really see how to pull out tho 41 Vivax 09-21-2020 02:13 PM ET (US) Wanna do a formal concede? 40 Vivax 09-21-2020 02:12 PM ET (US) I had to CC Damdred but it's too late for that.
Brainfarts
Yes you did have to, pretty much. Unless people wanted to lynch Number 4 instead of shockeyy (D1 or D2, doesnt matter). Youre always losing if that happens and Damdred is un'cc'd.
09-17-2020 02:25 PM ET (US) With GB and Rayn in this game, they're 100% already going to be against each other Lol.
idk if you know but i think i have a good way of reading him. I am usually only against GB because he is mafia and i am not (and he somehow gets away with it...)
Haha I was just hoping you two would go at it like the old times :D
09-17-2020 02:25 PM ET (US) With GB and Rayn in this game, they're 100% already going to be against each other Lol.
idk if you know but i think i have a good way of reading him. I am usually only against GB because he is mafia and i am not (and he somehow gets away with it...)
Haha I was just hoping you two would go at it like the old times :D
Getting old sucks !
I think that also not helping. We've played together for so long we catch tells. That makes such a small game very swing. Vivax could of tried to cc damdred. I doubt it works because without rb he's confirmed regardless after flips. It might work if kill doc or me n0. Ack, I'm not sure .
I'm really sorry that I kinda dropped the ball. RL getting kinda crazy lately (in good and bad ways) and I put the priority for mafia on the backburner. But yeah also thought to myself that I can hardly win the game. I hope Shockeyy isn't disappointed too much because his effort was monumental and kudos for that.
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