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Newbie Student Mafia XXXI
Host: Hapahauli
Questions may be sent to either of us. Night actions should be sent to all hosts!
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Introduction: Mafia is an educated guessing game of epic proportions. The objective of the game is to lynch or kill all mafia members before they outnumber the rest of the town. It's much like a game of poker because mafia members are also part of the town during the day and may manipulate the vote to their liking. If the mafia at any time outnumber or equal the townspeople, they win. The town's goal is to lynch all the members of the mafia.
The game is typically very active, so the thread may grow large quickly. However, it is essential to read the thread to play the game. If you do not have the time or patience to read the whole thread, do not play.
Rules: Cheating: Cheating includes (but is not limited to):- Posting after death. You may have one polite goodbye post; but it may not contain any potentially game-changing information.
- Ruining the game by doing something like hand out your mafia's member list to the town.
- Logging on to someone else's account to get their role or looking over someone's shoulder to get their role.
- Comparing role PM times to determine roles.
- Posting screenshots of your inbox.
- Posting any PM you receive from a host.
- Getting yourself modkilled to help your team. Your non-majority-decided death may not be used as a bargaining chip.
- Signing up more than once using smurf accounts.
- Betting items outside of the game in exchange for in-game benefits.
- Sharing accounts with other players. Only you may post on your account.
- Posting the link to any QT's you have.
- You may not reveal or hint about the identity of your coach. You may not refer to any idea, course of action, etc. as something that was suggested by your coach.
If you feel that any action you are considering may be against the spirit of the game, it is best to contact a host and ensure it is allowed before proceeding.
Posting: Host Color: The color blue is reserved for the hosts of the game to make our posts easy to notice. Please do not use it.
Questions: The color green is reserved for questions by players for the hosts during pre-game.
Once the game begins, please PM the hosts with any questions.
Smurfs: Smurfs must PM the host because TL doesn't allow multiple accounts otherwise. If the host is unaware of smurfs, you (and/or your smurf) can be banned for having multiple accounts
Editing: Editing is not allowed for any reason. Editing will result in a warning. After that, you will be modkilled. This is the one part of the site where it is okay to be double posting, even triple-posting. "Editing" includes indirect editing like linking an image, then editing the image. Editing your profile or signature are allowed, but if you edit them for any game-related reasons (ie, breadcrumbing, sending messages, etc) this will be considered out-of-thread posting and will be punished.
Inappropriate posts and use of the report post link: If you want to post something insulting or inappropriate and know the TL mods would have a problem with it elsewhere, don't post it here. If you do, a host will warn you or modkill you and request that you be banned from future games. The hosts have the final say on what is inappropriate. If you do not like how someone is talking to you, please PM a host, or FecalFeast before involving the TL moderation staff or using the report post link. If you are unsatisfied with how the situation is resolved, then you can appeal to the TL staff normally.
Ban discussions: Please wait until this game is over to talk about modkills and bans resulting from this game.
Play to win. This means you play your best to help your team win while you are alive and in the game. However, this does not mean that you should try to win by being a jerk to the other players so they all want to quit playing.
This also means that you cannot leave the game without a good reason without a ban. These situations will be dealt with on a case by case basis. PM your host if you need to leave the game.
Out of thread communication: It is common for players whose roles permit out of thread communication (e.g. mafia, masons) to use a medium outside of TL such as QuickTopics or IRC to communicate during the game. Other players may not attempt to infiltrate such communication channels. Players who have not explicitly been given permission to communicate outside the thread are not allowed to do so.
Voting rules: - Voting is done in a separate voting thread that will be posted at the start of the game. Do not PM your vote to the hosts, it will not be counted.
- Please vote in the following format: ##Vote kavdragon.
- No conditional voting.
- You may vote only for other living players in the thread. You may not vote for yourself.
- This game uses plurality voting, so whoever has the most votes at the end of the day is lynched. There is no minimum number of votes required to lynch someone. If there is a tie for most votes, whoever most recently had more votes than the other is the person who is up for the lynch.
- The person who is up for the lynch is whoever has the most votes. Bringing another player up to that number of votes doesn't put him up for the lynch; s/he has to have the most votes.
- Voting is mandatory. You may NOT abstain.
Signups: Signup for the game by posting /in in the thread.
You are responsible for being aware when the game begins. I will send a PM to players one (1) day before starting. If you learn you cannot play when I PM you, please let me know ASAP.
Game-specific rules: Modkills: Modkills will be used at the hosts' discretion.
Replacements: Players who fail to post for an entire day and night cycle will be replaced.
If you are unable to continue playing for a legitimate reason and require a replacement, inform the host(s) via PM. Do not post about it in the thread and do not contact the standby players on your own accord.
Clues: The role PMs and day/night posts are purely flavor text. There are no clues.
PMs: PMs and out of thread communication are not allowed in this game, unless your role explicitly allows them.
Activity: You are expected to keep up with the thread and participate in discussion daily. If for some reason you anticipate that you will not be available for a period longer than the 48 hour day phase, please notify a host ahead of time.
Time Cycle: This game will follow a 48 hour day/24 hour night cycle. Upon reaching the deadline, the game will be put on hold until the next day or night post is posted. Any votes or night actions timestamped up to and including XX:59 will count; those at or after XX:00 will not.
Once the deadline has been reached, you must not post in the thread until the game is resumed by the next daypost or nightpost. Do not wait until the very last moment to try to post!
The deadline for each cycle will be 18:00 GMT (+00:00).
Credits: Thanks to cohosts, coaches and players. Thanks to every active member of the TL mafia community.
Newbie-specific stuff - It's already in the rules, but remember, no editing. If you feel you must correct your post, please make a second post to clarify your statements. You may put EBWOP ("Edit by way of post," a handy acronym invented by semioldguy) at the beginning of your post to indicate that you are clearing up a point you made. If your EBWOP post is several posts after your original, please quote your original post in your EBWOP post for the sake of clarity.
- Only sign up if you know you will have the time available to properly play the game. It is essential that players remain active in a newbie game, so only /in if you are able to play to your fullest.
- If there is any sort of issue, you are unsure about some mechanic, or you are just wondering if your devilish scheme is even allowed, feel free to PM the host(s). Don't feel shy; these games are meant to be a place to learn and be open.
- Behave as gentlemen (or ladies). Things get heated here, but personal attacks will not be acceptable, and will be dealt with accordingly. Remember, this is a game; have fun and happy scumhunting!
- Please do not talk about any ongoing games either in-game or pre-game. This can affect other games and is unacceptable. Please do not refer to outside-of- thread activity of players in this thread.
- If you receive coaching, don't tell town about it.
- glhf!
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Setup
This is a semi open setup. What that means is that all possible roles are known, but the exact setup is not known. Any of these roles could potentially be included in the game:
Vanilla Town Unaware Miller (receives a VT PM role, appears as scum when checked by cop or parity cop) Unaware Wanderer (receives a VT PM role, visits the person killed by the scum team every night.)
Veteran (you have 1 bulletproof vest. If shot at night your vest will break but you will survive. You will die if shot at night a second time. If roleblocked your vest doesn't protect you. You will not be notified if you are shot.) Cop (at night you can check the alignment of one person. You will receive "Town", "Mafia" or "No result" at end of night) Tracker (at night you can track a person. And end of night you will receive the name of the people your target visited, "No visit" if your target didn't visit anyone, or "No result" if you couldn't track your target) Doctor (at night, you can protect one person from 1 KP. You cannot target yourself. You will not be notified if you make a save.) Jailkeeper (at night, you can roleblock and protect one person from 1 KP. You cannot target yourself) Vigilante (at night, you can deal 1 KP to one person) Roleblocker (at night you can roleblock one person. You cannot roleblock yourself) Named VT (you do not have any special abilities)
Mafia Goon Mafia Godfather (you appear as Town from alignment checks. You can be tracked though) Mafia Rolecop (at night you can learn the role of one person) Mafia Roleblocker (at night you can roleblock one person. You cannot roleblock yourself)
The roles will be sent via PM just before the start of the game. The PMs will look like this:
You're a Vanilla Town
You're a Cop FAQ
Each night the mafia team must choose one teammate to deliver the night kill. Players will not be informed if they are roleblocked. Doctor will not be informed if they make a save.
In the case of conflicting roleblocks, the mafia Roleblocker's action will take priority over Town Jailkeeper/Roleblocker. (Suppose the Mafia Roleblocker has roleblocked the Town Roleblocker and vice-versa, but the Mafia Roleblocker is also carrying the night kill, then the Mafia Roleblocker's roleblock will go through first and the night kill will be unimpeded.)
If only one Roleblocker is roleblocked, then the roleblocked Roleblocker's action will not go through. (Suppose the Town Roleblocker/Jailkeeper has roleblocked the Mafia Roleblocker, and the Mafia Roleblocker has roleblocked a Cop. Then the Mafia Roleblocker's action will not process and the Cop will get a check.)
Town can no lynch Mafia cannot no shoot. If mafia fails to submit a shot, the shot will be randomized among town players.
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This will be a 9 or 13 player setup, depending on interest.
Players: 1. Vivax 2. Shockeyy 3. Dadred 4. GlowingBear 5. CopCake / Eversince 6. Monadel 7. Trfel 8. Raynpelikoneet
Observers: 1.
Coaches: 1. 2. LightningStrike
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/coach or, if no newbies, /cohost
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Mafia cannot no shoot. If mafia fails to submit a shot, the shot will be randomized among town players. I suggest you change this to ALL players for promoting activity you guys wanted to promote.
What's the point of named VT role btw?
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On August 27 2020 01:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +Mafia cannot no shoot. If mafia fails to submit a shot, the shot will be randomized among town players. I suggest you change this to ALL players for promoting activity you guys wanted to promote. What's the point of named VT role btw?
I am reluctant to add a non-standard mechanic to a newbie game, even if it "promotes activity". I will keep that suggestion in mind for normal games.
Pretty much the only point of the named VT role is to claim... and that's it. There are no powers associated with the role.
I stole the setup from the last newbie game fwiw.
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On August 27 2020 02:53 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2020 01:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:Mafia cannot no shoot. If mafia fails to submit a shot, the shot will be randomized among town players. I suggest you change this to ALL players for promoting activity you guys wanted to promote. What's the point of named VT role btw? I am reluctant to add a non-standard mechanic to a newbie game, even if it "promotes activity". I will keep that suggestion in mind for normal games. Pretty much the only point of the named VT role is to claim... and that's it. There are no powers associated with the role. I stole the setup from the last newbie game fwiw.
I believe this mechanic wasn't created to stimulate activity. I proposed this rule before because I've faced this problem and I had to decide between randomizing or no-kill. And when the rules say "mafia cannot no-shoot" town would think there was a protective role. I didn't consider activity in that moment.
Nonetheless, what rayn said is something to be considered. Can you imagine having the mafia team afking the whole game while shots occurs randomly until they win? It reinforces inactivity.
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On August 27 2020 02:53 Hapahauli wrote: Pretty much the only point of the named VT role is to claim... and that's it. There are no powers associated with the role. As like... VT??? Or what? :D What's the difference of me claiming VT or Named townie D1 as town?
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On August 27 2020 04:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2020 02:53 Hapahauli wrote: Pretty much the only point of the named VT role is to claim... and that's it. There are no powers associated with the role. As like... VT??? Or what? :D What's the difference of me claiming VT or Named townie D1 as town?
The difference is that if you actually have a named vt on the game and you're fake claiming, you'll be insta lynched and the guy will be basically confirmed town lol
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I'd tip you guys a beer or coffee for all the hosting you're doing. Thanks, really.
Gonna /in.
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I'll /obs for now, might /in later
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On August 27 2020 04:12 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2020 02:53 Hapahauli wrote:On August 27 2020 01:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:Mafia cannot no shoot. If mafia fails to submit a shot, the shot will be randomized among town players. I suggest you change this to ALL players for promoting activity you guys wanted to promote. What's the point of named VT role btw? I am reluctant to add a non-standard mechanic to a newbie game, even if it "promotes activity". I will keep that suggestion in mind for normal games. Pretty much the only point of the named VT role is to claim... and that's it. There are no powers associated with the role. I stole the setup from the last newbie game fwiw. I believe this mechanic wasn't created to stimulate activity. I proposed this rule before because I've faced this problem and I had to decide between randomizing or no-kill. And when the rules say "mafia cannot no-shoot" town would think there was a protective role. I didn't consider activity in that moment. Nonetheless, what rayn said is something to be considered. Can you imagine having the mafia team afking the whole game while shots occurs randomly until they win? It reinforces inactivity. Should town not be lynching inactives?
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On August 28 2020 01:55 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2020 04:12 GlowingBear wrote:On August 27 2020 02:53 Hapahauli wrote:On August 27 2020 01:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:Mafia cannot no shoot. If mafia fails to submit a shot, the shot will be randomized among town players. I suggest you change this to ALL players for promoting activity you guys wanted to promote. What's the point of named VT role btw? I am reluctant to add a non-standard mechanic to a newbie game, even if it "promotes activity". I will keep that suggestion in mind for normal games. Pretty much the only point of the named VT role is to claim... and that's it. There are no powers associated with the role. I stole the setup from the last newbie game fwiw. I believe this mechanic wasn't created to stimulate activity. I proposed this rule before because I've faced this problem and I had to decide between randomizing or no-kill. And when the rules say "mafia cannot no-shoot" town would think there was a protective role. I didn't consider activity in that moment. Nonetheless, what rayn said is something to be considered. Can you imagine having the mafia team afking the whole game while shots occurs randomly until they win? It reinforces inactivity. Should town not be lynching inactives? That was not the point. Inactivity in terms of not posting is different than people not doing what they are "supposed" to, i mean like voting and mafia team deciding night actions. As well as townies for not voting, mafia team should be punished for not fulfilling their required action (in terms of AT LEAST the randomized night kill being able to hit themselves too).
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On August 27 2020 05:32 Vivax wrote: I'd tip you guys a beer or coffee for all the hosting you're doing. Thanks, really.
Gonna /in.
A beer would be nice
On August 28 2020 01:55 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2020 04:12 GlowingBear wrote:On August 27 2020 02:53 Hapahauli wrote:On August 27 2020 01:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:Mafia cannot no shoot. If mafia fails to submit a shot, the shot will be randomized among town players. I suggest you change this to ALL players for promoting activity you guys wanted to promote. What's the point of named VT role btw? I am reluctant to add a non-standard mechanic to a newbie game, even if it "promotes activity". I will keep that suggestion in mind for normal games. Pretty much the only point of the named VT role is to claim... and that's it. There are no powers associated with the role. I stole the setup from the last newbie game fwiw. I believe this mechanic wasn't created to stimulate activity. I proposed this rule before because I've faced this problem and I had to decide between randomizing or no-kill. And when the rules say "mafia cannot no-shoot" town would think there was a protective role. I didn't consider activity in that moment. Nonetheless, what rayn said is something to be considered. Can you imagine having the mafia team afking the whole game while shots occurs randomly until they win? It reinforces inactivity. Should town not be lynching inactives?
Well, kinda, but it's been a trend to lynch the most outspoken, don't you think?
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/In
Only my second game go easy on me ^_-
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I'm still waiting for a video mafia.
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On August 29 2020 04:27 Dadred wrote: /In
Only my second game go easy on me ^_-
/in
I promised myself I would only play again at the end of the year but I miss playing with you bro
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