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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
August 11 2020 00:56 GMT
#299
Why don’t we just vote GTac?
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
August 11 2020 02:04 GMT
#311
Fuck sorry I went to eat dinner with the wife.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
August 11 2020 18:36 GMT
#328
On August 12 2020 03:29 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
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On August 11 2020 01:58 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On August 11 2020 00:02 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
We are going to lynch Shockeyy today.

On August 29 2015 05:42 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:40 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:35 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:34 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
KSC clearly hasn't read my mega post and is still buddying me despite me wanting to kill him.


i did read your mega post



Then why are you mafia buddying me? You just defended me against Vivax, and you've been doing this all game.


because vivax made a stupid post


That's true. But in my experience mafia are more likely to defend me than town are, especially given that most people have been terribly scumreading me this game.


The above post is from my last game 5 years ago. In this game, KelsierSC was mafia and was townreading me the entire game and sheeping my scumreads that were on town. I know this was a long time ago, but I remember it clearly because of how it felt when it happened. I remember that feeling, and I am feeling this now with Shockeyy.

Shockeyy did the same thing where he just townread me and then agreed with my read on Trfel. Now, my read on Trfel is pretty bad. It was mainly intended to get something going. Trfel does need to post something of relative substance, but I find it interesting that nobody else in this thread commented on my Trfel vote with the exception of LightningStrike who said it was NAI. Why is Shockeyy agreeing with me? He does not like people who analyze opening posts, but he likes me?

He gives me the jeebies.

##Unvote
##Vote: Shockeyy


Stop being ignorant and bad at the game


Give me a reason to not lynch you


You're already keen on lynching me, any reason I give you will just go over your head, in one ear and out the other. I don't like wasting my time with those that just do things to do them. You literally are only voting me because I town read you. What a load of shit on your part.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
August 11 2020 18:38 GMT
#329
The only way town is going to win at this point is literally getting the next two mafia in the next three cycles. If we fail at lynching mafia in the next three cycles town has the highest chance at losing.

Lynching me is a waste of one cycle, and a win for mafia.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
August 11 2020 19:59 GMT
#338
On August 12 2020 04:09 Vivax wrote:
Shockeyy I just dived your filter and imo you look frustrated mostly.
Do you feel like you don't want to play because there's people calling you scum?

You spend more posts for Cheesecake calling you scum than doing much else.
You got any theory regarding the game or anything to share as to who you think is mafia?


I don't have any updated theories, but I did share on who I possibly think might be mafia. I haven't been able to update my reads or really spend the time I've wanted to on this game, which has gotten me frustrated, not actually Mr Cheesecake.

It's really my fault for not carving out the time needed, but also my wifes pregnancy and job have sucked up a lot of my time these past weeks.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
August 11 2020 20:15 GMT
#340
Holden, what are your thoughts on these two voting you?
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
August 11 2020 21:01 GMT
#342
On August 12 2020 05:31 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
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On August 12 2020 04:59 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On August 12 2020 04:09 Vivax wrote:
Shockeyy I just dived your filter and imo you look frustrated mostly.
Do you feel like you don't want to play because there's people calling you scum?

You spend more posts for Cheesecake calling you scum than doing much else.
You got any theory regarding the game or anything to share as to who you think is mafia?


I don't have any updated theories, but I did share on who I possibly think might be mafia. I haven't been able to update my reads or really spend the time I've wanted to on this game, which has gotten me frustrated, not actually Mr Cheesecake.

It's really my fault for not carving out the time needed, but also my wifes pregnancy and job have sucked up a lot of my time these past weeks.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but is that Vivax, Trfel, and LS?


Vivax is more for posture, but I definitely do think Trfel can be mafia. LS seems to be protecting Vivax which I found extremely odd, so yea you can put him in my scum list too.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
August 12 2020 05:22 GMT
#405
On August 12 2020 12:29 GTacc wrote:
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On August 10 2020 22:33 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On August 10 2020 22:19 HoldenGolden wrote:
On August 10 2020 12:48 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On August 09 2020 21:32 HoldenGolden wrote:
On August 09 2020 12:49 LightningStrike wrote:
oh wait holden is here
On August 09 2020 12:46 HoldenGolden wrote:
On August 09 2020 12:20 LightningStrike wrote:
Got 2nd place in clash T_T. Shockeyy looks a little forced? Trfel looks alright but nothing spectacular from his entrance? Will keep an eye on him. Holden looks alright.


Can you elaborate on how you feel Shockeyy seems to be forced tonally?

Out of curiosity, is trfel known for having spectacular entrances?

He was being overly happy type of forced at least tone wise I might reading into it to much. Trfel sometimes does spectacular entrances but more often than not doesn't.

Unvote
Vote: lightingstrike



On August 09 2020 15:01 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On August 09 2020 13:36 Trfel wrote:
On August 09 2020 11:56 HoldenGolden wrote:
1) he said it in the same sentence that he was answering my question about the voting thread. Therefore, it came off as if he was speaking to me still.

2) Mostly to get the ball rolling; there's no specific AI reason yet.
Thanks, that makes sense. I see now.


When people look into openings too hard, it gives me the jeebies.

Do you got jeebies now? If so, care to explain it to the class?



Typically when people dig too much into first day posts, I tend to start feeling like the person digging is scummy since D1 posts are usually not informative at all. But this is a different type of game, and no one voted at all.

For this next day, we’re going to have to focus on those that are just not posting at all.

I'm just trying to understand your head here so bear with me. Why can't those who are excessively digging at D1 posts be townies trying to create a useful day 1?

Why Vivax over Gtacc for your inactive elimination plan?

Same question I asked to Fecal: how am I forced?


Because I know Vivax is more than a one post player, as mafia or town, so I rather pressure him. I don’t know GTac at all. However, if GTac doesn’t post anything today, I’ll just spend more effort on GTac.


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On August 11 2020 00:07 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 10 2020 23:58 LightningStrike wrote:
These votes are all over the place o.o we should vote someone together. Also regarding GTac he is just policy at best due to his inactivity.


We aren't lynching GTacc. Please tell us who your top scumread is this game. And none of that bluehunting stuff.

yasssss
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On August 11 2020 08:04 Trfel wrote:
On August 10 2020 12:48 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ok so which inactive do we kill? I'm down with your plan for right now but you have to drive
This post feels super suspicious to me as well. Fecalfeast had just previously posted this:
On August 10 2020 08:14 Fecalfeast wrote:
Of the three active non-LS people so far this is the order I would rank them from towniest to scummiest
eywa

cheesecake

holden

I can't read LS because I think everything he says is scummy because he doesn't really understand subtext if I remember correctly it has been a while.

Trfel pings towny to me for his early questions but honestly meh otherwise

nobody reads overly scummy to me. The only reason holden is on the bottom of my short list is because their posts seem forced and overly aggressive IMHO. I get they're an offsite player though so who know what they do over there.

vivax we will have to wait and see. I like that he found a non-obvious post to make a read on and one I also liked to boot.
Where he admittedly has no scumreads. But even moreso, look at the player pool (excluding himself), to see who Fecalfeast would want to lynch here (remember, he's looking for an inactive):

Eywa- (likes him better than HoldenGolden)
GTacc
ShoCkeyy (the person he's talking to, obviously he wouldn't suggest himself)
LightningStrike (says he's an active player, and can't read him)
Mr. Cheesecake (likes him better than HoldenGolden)
Vivax (liked his read, but says wait and see)
HoldenGolden (active, but not overly scummy)
Trfel (towny for some posts, meh otherwise)

First of all, no one was completely inactive. Second, he has no reason to trust ShoCkeyy. Why would he go with ShoCkeyy here and be willing to follow his vote? Third, and most importantly, the only logical choice of vote here would be GTacc. No one was really inactive (except for GTacc), and Fecalfeast himself would have had misgivings about every other target, as mentioned in his list post.

If Fecalfeast is town, he looked at a town full of people he didn't feel comfortable lynching, and told someone he had no read on that he'd vote for any of them. That makes no sense for town.

I'll be voting for Fecalfeast and I strongly suggest you consider doing the same.

##vote: Fecalfeast

:pensive: I get it...

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On August 11 2020 08:56 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ok just went back to check. Town loses if time expires which means mafia wants to go as many days with no lynch as possible as each day we get closer to lylo. Imagine lylo with a full game that's shit.

So with this being true I'm thinking eliminating low posters with the votes is a good start as it forces mafia to bluehunt or kill more active players thereby reducing the pool of possible mafia well before the timer runs out. If we create a popular effort to stall votes later on if things get spicy then we really shouldn't lose.

Vivax is a fine kill as is shockeyy or gtacc

A shenanigans onto LS would be fine too

We need to kill today imho

so all inactives are good choices for a kill? why did you post today at all if you were already coming to this conclusion?
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On August 11 2020 09:56 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Why don’t we just vote GTac?

I don't like this, kind of looks like mafia checking waters if people wanna dkdk me or not.

sorry, i kept forgeting player names while reading so i don't have any reads other than shock bad guy and eywa good guy. I still don't know how dkdk's work sorry for my english


I'm checking if you're around nah mean?
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
August 12 2020 06:02 GMT
#406
GTacc also seems scummy as hell. Votes Holden, then talks about the game mechanics, and immediately calls me scum, but never actually attributes Holden and Myself as a team, although he can easily see my interaction with holden wouldn't say we're a team.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
August 12 2020 13:52 GMT
#408
##unvote
##vote LightningStrike


Yeaaa I’m not going to vote Holden when my mafia reads are literally voting for Holden.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
August 12 2020 17:33 GMT
#416
On August 13 2020 01:00 Vivax wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote HoldenGolden


The odds are higher that a mafia didn't (try to) hammer him than other things.

Shockeyy why not lynch Holden?


LS responded for me, my only hope is that Holden comes back for the EOD to defend himself.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
August 12 2020 18:06 GMT
#418
On August 12 2020 22:52 ShoCkeyy wrote:
##unvote
##vote LightningStrike


Yeaaa I’m not going to vote Holden when my mafia reads are literally voting for Holden.

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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
August 12 2020 18:06 GMT
#419
On August 13 2020 02:45 Vivax wrote:
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On August 13 2020 02:33 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On August 13 2020 01:00 Vivax wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote HoldenGolden


The odds are higher that a mafia didn't (try to) hammer him than other things.

Shockeyy why not lynch Holden?


LS responded for me, my only hope is that Holden comes back for the EOD to defend himself.


No he didn't respond for you. Why do you not want to lynch Holden?


Is that not enough for you?
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
August 12 2020 20:39 GMT
#421
On August 13 2020 04:56 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2020 03:06 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On August 13 2020 02:45 Vivax wrote:
On August 13 2020 02:33 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On August 13 2020 01:00 Vivax wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote HoldenGolden


The odds are higher that a mafia didn't (try to) hammer him than other things.

Shockeyy why not lynch Holden?


LS responded for me, my only hope is that Holden comes back for the EOD to defend himself.


No he didn't respond for you. Why do you not want to lynch Holden?


Is that not enough for you?


No.

##Unvote
##Vote: Shockeyy


I asked why you didn't vote Holden, you said it's because your scumreads were voting for him.
You said it when there were 6 people on the Holden wagon and you can't make me believe that you think 6 guys can all be mafia.

Then you voted LightningStrike.
You haven't even said whether you scumread LS before or after his late vote.
And before LS voted for Holden: Me, Trfel and eywa are the mafia on Holdens wagon?

It looks just like you're clinging to the LS vote because FF and Cheesecake voted him before.

Truth is you just were comfortable with no lynching and keep wasting your vote.

All things that make you mafia, because your reads don't change and you just keep pointing back at past stuff and you don't care to rethink them.


I voted LS due to an interaction I had with him earlier about voting you. Now you're doing the same thing he did to me when I voted for you. Both of you seem keen on defending each other.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
August 12 2020 20:40 GMT
#422
And out of everyone voting Holden, I honestly think the possibility of mafia is in these four players.

Trfel, LightningStrike, GTacc, Vivax

I don't think it's all six, idk why you and LS keep trying to put words in my posts as if I've said that.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
August 12 2020 20:43 GMT
#423
And in all honesty the four I'm suspecting of mafia seem to not like reading
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
August 12 2020 21:03 GMT
#426
On August 13 2020 06:00 Vivax wrote:
The only reason you say Holden is town is because of the ones voting for him.

Tell me how you can be SO confident you have to be right that you don't even bother to comment about a player except pointing to the ones voting for him.


Because I already interacted with Holden, and I can't see him being mafia, but you know it's mafia, I can always be wrong. Can you prove me wrong as to why Holden isn't town?
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
August 12 2020 21:04 GMT
#427
On August 13 2020 06:02 Vivax wrote:
You are partly the reason Holden isn't getting lynched and we lose a day. While LS, FF, and CC all somehow showed face at EoD, you pick one of them as mafia while lazily leaving your vote on me without giving any reason for Holden to be town aside from the votes on him and you think that justifies you making town waste lynches?


How am I partly the reason? He had five votes on him, and as soon as LS voted for Holden, everyone unvoted. How is that my fault?...
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
August 12 2020 21:09 GMT
#428
If anything, you unvoting Holden now and voting for me is scummy as fuck. Basically what you're blaming me for is exactly what you're doing.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
August 12 2020 21:30 GMT
#432
On August 13 2020 06:10 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2020 06:04 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On August 13 2020 06:02 Vivax wrote:
You are partly the reason Holden isn't getting lynched and we lose a day. While LS, FF, and CC all somehow showed face at EoD, you pick one of them as mafia while lazily leaving your vote on me without giving any reason for Holden to be town aside from the votes on him and you think that justifies you making town waste lynches?


How am I partly the reason? He had five votes on him, and as soon as LS voted for Holden, everyone unvoted. How is that my fault?...


And when did your pressure vote on me turn into a scumread anyway? That's also lacking in your filter. Why would I care to do anything at EoD if I could just play it the way you did and not compromise on any lynches?

You are saying all the mafia tried to use a lynch for town at EoD but you, the townie, didn't because you had to keep your vote on me knowing it'd just be another wasted day?

When the mechanics say that mafia wins if we waste time?

That's the theory you're pushing right now. You have it completely backwards.


It wouldn't have mattered if I voted Holden??? He still had the majority of votes until LS voted him which caused everyone to unvote, I still don't see how that's my fault even if I left my vote on you. Holden STILL had the majority. When you became scum to me is when you decided to hard defend LS, just like LS hard defended you when I placed my pressure vote.

LS is the reason why Holden hasn't been voted off. Not me. I didn't waste any days. LS did.
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