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On April 05 2020 04:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: Shockeyy feels weird. I always feel weird to everyone with my openers and turn out to be a town or a blue... On April 05 2020 04:00 Vivax wrote: I'm trying to raise awareness for the bullshittery being pushed on the back of this super hyped pandemic. Sometimes I go out, grab used towels from trash cans, grind them finely and snort them to make a point. Anything game related? I mean it's the beginning of the game, I think everything is currently related. On April 05 2020 04:13 Trfel wrote: Agreed, it feels a bit strange to have time to make a post but not have time to interact. And with a bit of an excuse. That said... I've been doing okay with the whole coronavirus thing. We have the necessary supplies here, the main worry is for the health of those who are sick. And for myself personally, the loneliness and depression caused by staying inside so much is a bit of a pain to deal with but it's much worse for others so that's not so bad. I couldn't interact since I had pre determined chores, however, I wanted to let the thread know that I'm aware the game started. I don't think it's a weird opening, I'm just being truthful. I would think that's a high regarded value of a townie. | ||
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On April 05 2020 04:12 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Lucca Baby. I dont know if its love or the quarantine talking, but I like the cut of your olives. heyaaa fellow Ricci. Nice to see you back in the family. | ||
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On April 05 2020 08:35 Trfel wrote: Have you finished your chores yet? And out of curiosity, did you confirm? I finished quite a good amount of them. I just have to vacuum. Are you asking me if I confirmed my role in the game? | ||
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On April 05 2020 09:31 Trfel wrote: Yeah, when GlowingBear sent out confirmation PMs, did you respond? Not when he originally sent it, I responded after the game started, then posted in the thread. I had just woken up maybe 30 mins prior? | ||
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On April 05 2020 09:39 Hapahauli wrote: ShoCkeyy, what's your experience playing forum mafia? I’ve been around since I think mafia game #17. Bloody was hosting games back then, and we had like 20+ users each game. Was a great time for TL forum Mafia. | ||
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On April 05 2020 10:25 Trfel wrote: Fair enough. The reason I asked was because if you confirmed before, it would show that you were present, so there would have been less need to post in the thread showing that. That said, I guess I was kinda under the impression that you just played how you want and didn't really care too much what other people thought of you. Is that an incorrect assessment? It's not, but I also don't want mafia to win, so I try at least. | ||
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On April 05 2020 13:55 Jockmcplop wrote: Wow does everyone see something off with rayn? I don't see it. Overdefensiveness and coming into the game immediately being worried about people's read on you is +mafia for sure. I don't think all players play like that at all. A big example of this is the way you assume I think you are mafia when before this post I had not said anything of the sort, just that I disliked your previous post (I mostly disliked the logic of it until this response you just made). So the two assumptions you had made were: 1: I think you are mafia 2: The fact that you think that I think you are mafia, and Vivax's town read on you, are the most important things to you in the thread (ie you didn't respond to or quote anything else) Both of these assumptions show a mindset that you are coming into the game with, and that mindset is something that I have often seen with scum players. Trfel from his last game seems new and curious. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt. | ||
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On April 05 2020 14:23 Jockmcplop wrote: What do you think of Shockeyy's entrance? His tone seems weird to me. I don't know what that means for shockeyy though tbh. I think I did a great job. Hopefully Cobbler does too, glad to see him play after so many years. | ||
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On April 05 2020 14:40 BloodyC0bbler wrote: havent played with him in ages tbh. my memory from the ol days aint what it used to be. I want more from him atm but thats about it. Hey :D | ||
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On April 05 2020 14:43 Vivax wrote: Shockeyy do you have any scumreads or leads? Feels like you are just coexisting. Jock I really really think Trfel is town here. He has a mind of his own if I had to name the reason, instead of just being a void content factory. Not yet, it’s still the beginning. Have a whole other day to start giving a good idea of leads. I want to see or have more interactions with others. | ||
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On April 05 2020 14:43 Vivax wrote: Shockeyy do you have any scumreads or leads? Feels like you are just coexisting. Jock I really really think Trfel is town here. He has a mind of his own if I had to name the reason, instead of just being a void content factory. Just curious why do you think Trfel is town here? Do you have anything on anybody else yourself? | ||
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On April 05 2020 15:05 Jockmcplop wrote: I wasn't watching the last game. He's very different already? Depends on what your definition of different is. He was mafia last game hah. It’s hard to know, but he does seem similar. I’ll give him a second look. | ||
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To me it seems that Hapa is really skirting by while Jock has been playing the game and responding, to me that seems like town more than anything. Anyways back to reading. | ||
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On April 07 2020 01:07 Vivax wrote: Hapa isn't skirting by, he's just surgical with his posts. You were skirting by. This is probably the first opinion on something I see you giving. Two of his posts were reasonably done well, yes? But that's normal in mafia... He has 1 page of filter vs Jocks 3 pages of literally answering everybody... | ||
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On April 06 2020 14:58 Trfel wrote: Notes + Show Spoiler + ShoCkeyy Seems very interested in how towny he looks. Feels suspicious, but maybe this is just how he plays. Check meta as town to confirm or deny this. Note: checked meta from last game, didn't see any similar statements but I'm still not very confident in this reason to suspect ShoCkeyy. Interested to see where he goes from here. BloodyC0bbler Why does he say I am overly defensive here? I only tried to understand Jockmcplop's read, not disagree. However Jockmcplop also thought this way, so perhaps it's more up to interpretation than I thought. Jockmcplop Something still feels wrong about our conversation yesterday but it's probably just me making something out of nothing. I can't confidently say why it was off, and if Jockmcplop is mafia, there should be better reasons why. On April 05 2020 21:15 Jockmcplop wrote: Some things feel off to me about this post. First, he says he's not willing to lynch Chezinu because he can't read him, but he is willing to lynch Rels, who has made zero posts. I'd understand this more if he said that the reason was that Chezinu was fun, but he said that the reason was that he couldn't read him. It's a minor detail but it makes me a bit suspicious. I also don't like him suddenly agreeing with the Hapahauli read, he didn't mention it at all earlier and then suddenly agrees after raynpelikoneet makes a big post.So far my town reads are vivax and bloody and I also wouldn't lynch rayn, or probably chez. Vivax I already explained, he just has that spark when he's trying to solve, and you can see it here. This is a meta read though so its always a chance that this is the game where scum Vivax changes his meta. He's probably town though. Bloody keeps saying things that I'm thinking and although that's fakeable so early in the game, I find it far more likely that he sees the game similarly to me because he's town. I wouldn't lynch rayn here because he *seems* townie, but historically I can't read rayn for shit so I'm just giving him the benefit of the doubt really. I'll filter him in a minute and see if anything jumps out. I like the long post alot. Chez I wouldn't lynch also because I can't read him. He's very entertaining though so best keep him alive. Everyone else can die until we find scum, probably in the following order, scummiest first: haphauli - Not really much to say other than I agree with bloody and rayn but he needs to come and be town or he gets lynched. Rels Nothing. Shockeyy Need to see more from shockeyy but he seems a bit too laid back if you know what i mean. Almost like he can't be bothered. Said he wants to have more interactions with other people so I want to see what happens if he does. Trfel I have explained. He responded okay to pressure but I still think his case on rayn was poor and he pulled out the 'trying to get people talking' line that mafia loves. I'm trying to avoid tunnelling on him though because I've done that before when he was town. So yeah my two biggest scumreads have barely posted. I guess that shows where I am in this game at the moment. Q/AHonestly I've no idea. @raynpelikoneet and/or BloodyC0bbler: Can you please help me understand why you are scumreading Hapahauli? You said that it feels like he was just posting to post and wasn't going anywhere with his questions. I don't disagree, however you made these statements when Hapahauli's last post was on the bottom of page 4, giving him only two and a half pages of content to work with. At that time, we were talking about flavor and voting randomly. I just don't get what you expect from Hapahauli this early into the game. @Jockmcplop: What was it in particular that made you suspicious of Hapahauli? @ShoCkeyy: I assume you'll see this while you are catching up on the thread, but if not, just a reminder: I'm characterizing you by your last game into this game. It wasn't anything bad, just trying to reason with you and why you're town. | ||
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On April 07 2020 01:07 Vivax wrote: Hapa isn't skirting by, he's just surgical with his posts. You were skirting by. This is probably the first opinion on something I see you giving. Can you post why we should vote Jock over Hapa? Or are you going to continue defending his lack of posting and instant town read on you? My concern is that every time we vote one of the most active players off the game, it's always turns out as town. Last game we played Sentinel is playing the same way Hap is and he ended up being the roleblocker. | ||
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On April 07 2020 01:18 Vivax wrote: Dude you said a dozen hours ago you were catching up, now you want to speedrun everything within less than an hour and someone to repeat what has already been said. Turns out you are actually still just F5ing the front page while doing it. Who are your top towns? Dude I asked for a summary as to why we're voting Jock over Hap. I've ready up to page 12 last night, and had to read the other three pages to catch up this morning. I'm not asking for a speed run, I'm asking for legitimate reasons why I should place my vote on Jock, and from what I've seen, and read, Jock has better reason to be town than mafia at this point. Hap literally cased Jock right after rayn and yourself said something about Jock. He didn't even try, just grabbed two of his posts and said this is why. Like how is that "surgical"...? | ||
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On April 07 2020 01:32 Vivax wrote: Ok I don't think this game is winnable if we lynch Hapa today. The mafia are Jock and BC if they aren't one afk + Chez imo. But you can give rayn his lynch and see where it takes the game. Should we policy lynch instead? If we do lose two town here, it's going to be really really fucking rough. I rather policy lynch rels at this point, and have only one person killed even if it means he's town sadly, than two possible towns creating a very disadvantage town. | ||
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On April 06 2020 22:54 Jockmcplop wrote: ehh... maybe I just look at how hap has interacted/referred to shockeyy and it gives me the chills. Hap refusing to answer my question above absolutely sucks and his answer to that would have helped me read him so i'm taking his refusal to answer as a sign that he is mafia. You never answered Jock, why is that? | ||
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On April 07 2020 01:50 Hapahauli wrote: You just called me and Jock town. Why is that? When did I call you town? | ||
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On April 07 2020 01:51 Vivax wrote: Just look at this and be enlightened. Must have been some bad shit, but. People have bad games all the time. Especially D1, that's how GlowingBear gets voted out as a blue everytime... | ||
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On April 07 2020 01:53 Hapahauli wrote: No no no no you don't get to run away from this. How does any of this make any fucking sense. Mafia-hapa is giving himself up because he and Jock are town? I'm considering Rels is possible town here... lol wtf are you smoking? | ||
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On April 07 2020 01:56 Hapahauli wrote: Oh oh carry on. We both misread each other. I said I had a strong preference against lynching Rels, and that the lynch should be between myself and Jock. Yea and I countered with of course you do because then that means two possible townies are getting lynched... Vivax please. It's the most obvious tell. | ||
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On April 07 2020 02:55 Chezinu wrote: Consequences Of? | ||
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On April 07 2020 03:31 Chezinu wrote: You said you had filter diving habits, yet you did not listen to me. I did, and I have a ton of points to make on it, such as hope you washed your hands after that workout. Also you're the only family member I know who cooked steak in an oven while trying to promote our families olive oil for subscribes. Why the eff did you turn on the left stove top to do nothing with it? And you're using the microwave as a timer lmao, wtf man. wtf so many questions, might be the Ricci powder. Side note: send some snort-able protein powder over here. | ||
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I seriously can't stop laughing at this picture lmao. It literally summarizes the end of day posts so well. | ||
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On April 07 2020 04:39 Chezinu wrote: He has eyes that sees. He has augmented reality too! Wow that was uploaded a few months before Chez had a matrix experience... Chez never even saw the video before. I literally spent my whole day Friday watching you then! | ||
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On April 05 2020 11:30 Chezinu wrote: Mom!! Dad said that we wants to murder me! Who's we? | ||
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On April 05 2020 14:40 Trfel wrote: I appreciate you answering, thank you. Do you have any players you are suspicious of at this point? And if not, what do you think of my "case" on raynpelikoneet? Time to answer, just think of the opposite players here: Include Hap and exclude chez/bloody. The rest is null, I don't have a slight clue yet to who is mafia is until night kill or D2 posts. As for your rayn stuff, I think it was generic casing since it was the start of the game, but definitely something to look at for D2. | ||
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On April 07 2020 07:30 ShoCkeyy wrote: Working and reading the thread from start to beginning. I left off on a Vivax post that made me look more into rayn and jock posts. I want to also follow up with your BC case, but I need to read it into context. | ||
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On April 07 2020 07:36 Hapahauli wrote: I understand that you're re-reading the thread, there's a fair amount of new and present content to go on. What do you make of Rayn and BC? I don't think Rayn is mafia, he's a head strong player when he's town, and I can see it in him. Jock though first went for trfel, then rayn, then me, then you. BC on the other hand is interesting. He voted for you first. That's my biggest scum tell this game. BC/Jock does seem like a possible team when Jock leaned on you last. The only other conclusion I can come up with is that, Jock knew he scum slipped and told Chez to vote him instantly to keep Chez safe. Very tinfoiling but this is mafia, you never fucking know anymore... | ||
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On April 07 2020 01:15 Vivax wrote: If we murder Shockeyy here even if he's town it's one less vote for mafia in the long run. This post also made me feel bad. I guess I am lynch bait after almost voting Hap off. | ||
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On April 07 2020 06:55 Trfel wrote: BloodyC0bbler, thanks for answering. I'll take some time and think about it. ShoCkeyy, thanks for answering too. For the record, my "case" on raynpelikoneet was pretty weak, and I don't think it's worth revisiting. Just to make sure, you are saying Hapahauli is town and BloodyC0bbler and Chezinu are null? Or the reverse? You're correct with the first assumption. | ||
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On April 06 2020 15:30 Trfel wrote: Actually though, what if it is Chezinu? When he's town I'm used to him posting some relevant information/reads. Obviously in his own Chezinu way, but they are there. This game he is voting for (iirc) Jockmcplop, but I couldn't understand why, does anyone know why? Chezinu this game just feels very different from previous games where he's been town. Still awesome and funny, but different. I'll try and read a previous Chezinu mafia game or two. On April 06 2020 15:57 Trfel wrote: The most recent Chezinu mafia game I could find was six years old. And in that game he was more focused on providing reads, not less. So there goes that idea. It could also mean we don't know how his most recent mafia play can be. He's posted videos of himself, I went through them, but I don't know if anybody else did. In the day post, it's description sounds like his character likes killing people. I feel like since Rayn and Chez have some kind of alignment instantly, it's like Rayn won't suspect Chez and it'll let him slide by. On April 07 2020 02:15 Hapahauli wrote: You realize that Chez only did two things this game: hard-bus his scumbuddy and give us a wonderful steak recipe... right? Kinda starts aligning with this. But you mentioned you don't want to discuss this in a later post? Any reason why? | ||
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On April 07 2020 09:11 Hapahauli wrote: I don't think anyone truly has a grasp on how Chez plays. I personally feel it is difficult to entertain Chez's alignment until some of the more plausible scummers are dead. Occam's razor works for now - the most plausible explanation is that he's town, regardless of how random the vote is. Also, I don't quite get this: Where did I say I didn't want to discuss Chez? In my long list-o-reads, I state something along the lines of I am not looking at Chez, because I am discounting the chance of "sophisticated" mafia plays (i.e. hard bus plays) due to how Jock was posting. Is that not what you meant with the line here? Chez, Trfel, and Vivax are in the do not lynch category. All of them had the opportunity to save their "teammate" but chose not to. If there is a bus play, we can explore that at LYLO. K now I gotta go, be back in like an hour at least. | ||
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On April 07 2020 09:50 Chezinu wrote: DAD!!!!!! Look what mom did to the pool! Geez, did you kill something in there? | ||
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On April 07 2020 10:09 Hapahauli wrote: Still waiting for the results of your read-through Shockey... Have you read anything in the thread so far that includes my name or have you ignored the past responses? I've been posting the results of my read through as I was active and responding to current questions. The only other person that hasn't done much is Vivax, he hopped on that Hap casing Jock wagon really early, and then bounced for the night round, but that doesn't matter since you insta 100% towned him anyways. I think I've been active and willingly to answer questions, and give feedback. It may not be in full 10000 word posts but I'm active enough to help push town for a win given we make the right decisions. | ||
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On April 07 2020 09:29 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Shockeyy while being pressured is more answering questions while consistently reading to catch up. He has played in 20+ people games where by this point in time we'd have 200+ pages of content. He has experience in reading / being caught up in those games. So if you post 3-5 times in a 21 page game where the first 2ish pages are pregame / signups. So a 18-19 page game, 20 posts a page where most aren't very long catching up should be well, easy. Filter diving makes it easier. Given that to get anything of substance requires constantly pushing him to respond to things, makes me see scum motivations. Not saying he hasn't had migraines but I also remember people faking moving / random other life stuff as scum to avoid posting in game. Chez is honestly a mixture of 2 things. Last few games ive played with him, as town, hes at least helpful in his flavour posting. You can clearly see what he wants. So far this game flavour wise, the only thing he has wanted to do was kill Andrezza. To drop a vote (never change said vote) and manage to make that specific person die is pretty lucky no? I may have bias because his steak cooking method made me die inside. Funny, given that the the first game I played was one of yours, and it had +30 and only 40 pages. Half of what we have now, with less players, I was also one of the few townies that got lynched but guessed mafia correctly. Given the current scale I think I'm doing a lot to contribute my feedback even though it seems like it's not taken seriously. | ||
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On April 07 2020 10:44 Hapahauli wrote: I have read all of your posts Shock. Ultimately your alignment is a very important piece of that puzzle, and I'm gonna give you a hard time because I want to squeeze those juicy reads out of you. So three questions for starters so we can begin to consolidate your opinions and feels: 1) Who is in your "do not lynch" bucket? 2) Who is in your "lynch" bucket? 3) Of Bucket #2, who is your top candidate and why? What makes them worse than other candidates? 1) rayn, hap, trfel 2) bloodycobbler, chezinu 3) havent decided, depends on night kill sadly. | ||
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It relates to third, I want to town lean him. But then again, one of the last ones to jump on the jock train, and decided to disappear right after the d1 post. Then he also says he doesn't mind killing a town. I'm on the fence. | ||
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On April 07 2020 11:23 Hapahauli wrote: Did you look at his voting pattern? To Devil's Advocate on your Vivax read, wouldn't him being last make him more townie? In your analysis, this is a Hapa vs. Jock lynch. Vivax would have come in and essentially secured the lynch of his "scumbuddy" over a townie. Do you consider this a likely scenario for a mafia-Vivax? If so, why? | ||
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On April 07 2020 07:54 ShoCkeyy wrote: This post also made me feel bad. I guess I am lynch bait after almost voting Hap off. | ||
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So if it came down to it, it definitely has to be between BC, Rayn or Trfel. BC in all honesty being the scummiest one of them. If I look at myself, I already know I'm town, but Vivax filter tries to paint me as mafia which could have been a push to paint me as lynch bait. BC right now is in my lynch pile, and in the next hour I'll have my vote on him after we discuss Chez since he was my second highest lynch target. I'm looking more into Trfel to see if I see any kind of slip ups. Have you watched the Chez videos? Thoughts on Chez? | ||
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On April 08 2020 02:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: How does Vivax try to paint you as scum? It's his last post, BC was his prior highest scum read. On April 08 2020 00:38 Vivax wrote: You are brainfucking yourselves too much over overcomplicated theories. That's all there is to it, been there done that. No I don't fake that Shockeyyy is my top scumread over BC just to stay alive. He is. You guys just have a really hard time seeing that he is mafia. Dnu why. He really just didn't do anything that had a semblance of having an opinion for 3/4th of D1 but keeps claiming he did and now he's just posting stuff that makes it look like he just skims a bit and then posts stuff out of thin air like it suits him. Plus he was begging me to see something scummy about Hapa at the end of D1. I mean, he tried and shit. | ||
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On April 08 2020 02:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why do you think Chezinu is mafia? Because no one else thinks he is, even though he's literally just put a lot of effort (i guess) into his videos. No one would suspect of a mafia member wanting to put that much effort into the game. | ||
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On April 08 2020 03:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: okay so? does that make him mafia or what? I feel like I'm always repeating myself in these games. On April 07 2020 08:55 ShoCkeyy wrote: It deals with Chezinu, and how he positions himself to be the first to kill Jock, then I ran into this post by Trfel starting to question Chez as well. It could also mean we don't know how his most recent mafia play can be. He's posted videos of himself, I went through them, but I don't know if anybody else did. In the day post, it's description sounds like his character likes killing people. I feel like since Rayn and Chez have some kind of alignment instantly, it's like Rayn won't suspect Chez and it'll let him slide by. Kinda starts aligning with this. But you mentioned you don't want to discuss this in a later post? Any reason why? | ||
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Who's your target for todays lynch? Is it also BC or are you voting Hap like you kept suggesting in D1? | ||
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On April 08 2020 03:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: Have you been reading at all? I think i have been very clear in who i think is mafia. You made it very clear you think quite a few people are mafia. Your most recent reads include BC/Trfel. I just wanted to make sure you changed your read on Hap is all. | ||
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On April 08 2020 04:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: when do you think i changed my read on hapa? can you give me like a post of mine that you think "oh it happens here"? Here: On April 08 2020 00:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: I think BC is gonna die tomorrow no matter what but i think it is Trfel. No mtter how scummy shockeyy is, i would expect better from Trfel. That's why I asked, I just assumed you and Hap are aligned after casing BC, which also shows a change in read. You were very adamant on Hap still being mafia here On April 07 2020 03:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: na-ah. In every way i look at this Hapahauli is still mafia. But I always figured you were town over Hap. I take your reasoning much heavier than Hap in the long run only because I know you play a great town game, and we've played together before. | ||
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On April 08 2020 04:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also come on man pls if youre town, pls dont murder yourself i almost cant NOT find shit on other people over you... I mean in every game we played together, you know my style. Everyone always has a reason to lynch me but I always turn up town, and in all seriousness; I'm just a paranoid town. | ||
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Was the pool video related to your mom? Is that your interpretation about BC? | ||
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On April 08 2020 15:33 Chezinu wrote: Aunt Fiona never liked Andrezza. Going to bed but this was one of the reasons why I asked rayn if he’s also playing the lore. If we were, technically Fiona and Andrezza couldn’t be a team. | ||
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He literally posted a little bit before this that he was voting me. I don't get what is it with townie people just not reading the thread. | ||
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On April 08 2020 16:59 Chezinu wrote: Lucca Gallo here. The evil spirits are real! Look what I found written in Andrezza's diary! I do not believe that our bodily disdain for one another would hinder them from using us in unity. What if our hatred for one another stems not only from ourselves, but can be encouraged or generated by these outer dimensional beings? What if they want us to hate one another for their own desires? Some have said that these beings leech on us as parasites. But what if we are the parasites in their world and they just enter ours to control the ripples of destruction emitted by our essence? What better way to eliminate the ripples than to have the sources destroy one another? I must continue to look into this. How can I harm my family if I isolate myself? I will continue to research this dimensional interference. I spoke with Uncle Antonio about this. He believes in the spirits and stated that he has been isolating himself. He spends in nights researching the other dimensions on his dual screen computer while playing video games. He said on the dark web that this coronavirus could have entered our world through a nanosized wormhole created by these outer beings. I am not to sure about this. While Antonio searches the internet for the latest information, I will dive in the books of the past, for if these beings are interfering now, surely they have in the past. I have a better grasp of the past than the present. Antonio? Who's Antonio? You thinking they might be the other mafia? | ||
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On April 09 2020 02:53 Hapahauli wrote: I know that he voted you. I'm curious about the gap in explanation. I was his indisputably top scumread last night. Now I am not, and there is no explanation for why. His explanation for me was literally one paragraph on how I'm more active after being pressured which I think is normal in every mafia game with every player, town or mafia. | ||
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On April 10 2020 02:15 Trfel wrote: So the remaining players are ShoCkeyy, raynpelikoneet, Chezinu, and Hapahauli. I feel like raynpelikoneet and Hapahauli are town. Raynpelikoneet because of not bussing Jocmcplop and his tinfoil scumread of me, feels really genuine. Hapahauli because he was the other Day 1 wagon and he's beeen doing a ton of quality analysis. However I know that raynpelikoneet is very strong as mafia and I can only assume Hapahauli is as well, I will try and read their filters and make sure. Chezinu and ShoCkeyy I both feel like are town? But I don't have a ton of reasoning for why. Chezinu because of meta (I don't like his lack of reads this game, but I know he sometimes does this as town too), but moreso because of his vote on Jockmcplop Day 1. That said I could definitely see him being mafia, I just don't know how to read him and how to see if he is indeed mafia. So it feels like a shot in the dark. ShoCkeyy I kinda forget about honestly. At a glance he feels similar to last game, where he was town. There have been some things that I don't really like about his play, specifically lack of reads/commitment to things, but I'm not rally sure if that makes him mafia or not I still need to watch most of Chezinu's videos. But if those aren't too helpful I'll probably focus on reading ShoCkeyy and going from there. And of course re-evaluating the other two (maybe after the night kill). Did Trfel just oust himself? He claimed all of the four remaining players aside from himself are town... | ||
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On April 10 2020 03:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am not saying you're lacking in reads, maybe i used bad wording but you seem "clueless" because you had no idea on what to do on the EOD1 and while that's SUPPOSED to look fucking terrible on you, it doesn't look that way to me, and the only thin gyou have seemed quite sure about is that BC is mafia N1-D2. Sorry that was for Trfel, but my clueless question was coming up. I wanted to ask, after you cased Jock, I'm assuming it happened after he voted for me, did Hap jump on the Jock wagon? I went back to the beginning of the thread, but I got a massive headache just trying to think about the beginning of the game again after BC turned up town. Like that shit stressed me the fuck out. | ||
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On April 11 2020 01:55 Hapahauli wrote: Some things stick out about Shock's filter on a second readthrough: 1) Everyone alive has questioned my alignment at some point or another. Everyone except for Shock, and I find it very odd that he'd go from screaming in all caps that I outed myself as mafia in the thread to all of a sudden considering me unlynchable-top-town after the Jock flip. He never considers that it could have been a mafia v mafia lynch. 2) Shock is much more opinionated and aggressive than I first read him, when I readthrough the Day 1 lynch. 3) He left Vivax off of his end-of-night-1 read list. I had dismissed this as odd, but it's possible this is a slip, as Vivax got shot. 4) "Shock and Jock" is an excellent mafia team name. Hap I did consider the bolded part are you sure you actually read through the thread? the lack of reading is a big tell... Especially since mafia didn't NK and rayn who was my strongest town read gets killed... Notice how Rayn who read me town, and I read town back had at least an upper hand on the game against mafia if it came down to 2v1. So of course he does what he thinks is best, kill Rayn so Chez nor myself can align against Hap the last mafia. | ||
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On April 11 2020 02:35 Hapahauli wrote: Mafia didn't NK... ...so therefore hapa-mafia killed Rayn? What in the actual? Sorry I responded before reading the other blue part. Either way it sucks that my biggest town read is now gone :\ | ||
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On April 11 2020 02:54 Hapahauli wrote: Ok. So now that we established that you "guessed" based on the Day post, how do you post this: Because your explanation just now does not square with this. My brain went on a rant after, tin foiled the fuck out of it forgetting that NK wasn't mafia, shit happens. | ||
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On April 11 2020 03:26 Hapahauli wrote: Shockey. You said you actually sat down and watched Chez's videos, right? Didn't you say something about his video persona being some type of crazy killer? If you look at the voting pattern based on lore and how Chez has been handling the game, he's killed his family (parents and sister), and killed the only other person in our family that was likely to help town (it's even in their lore role) Vivax. I've watched all the videos and they all seem like he's very happy using a knife. As I found here: On April 07 2020 10:03 ShoCkeyy wrote: Back, wow the son is now trying to give up his mom too. I think Chez has a vendetta for women in the family. It goes back to our possible discussion about Chez. On April 07 2020 08:55 ShoCkeyy wrote: It deals with Chezinu, and how he positions himself to be the first to kill Jock, then I ran into this post by Trfel starting to question Chez as well. It could also mean we don't know how his most recent mafia play can be. He's posted videos of himself, I went through them, but I don't know if anybody else did. In the day post, it's description sounds like his character likes killing people. I feel like since Rayn and Chez have some kind of alignment instantly, it's like Rayn won't suspect Chez and it'll let him slide by. Kinda starts aligning with this. But you mentioned you don't want to discuss this in a later post? Any reason why? We're at a point now where it's very possible that Chez is our and has been last mafia player. | ||
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On April 11 2020 05:58 Hapahauli wrote: I have to read this game again using lore. Which is going to be really fucking weird. I can say that out of everyone, Chez was like 99% committed to the lore. | ||
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This is mainly why I haven’t placed my vote yet. It’s been a tough day, did my weekly chores and just finished. There’s a lot possible theories, and I’ve given my effort in trying to show the possibilities. I personally would take all responsibility for the chez lynch if that were to happen. That was my theory that I pushed. If I don’t look at chez as mafia and if you’re seriously not mafia, then who else can it be? On April 10 2020 03:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: and because i don't think shockeyy is mafia either soo.... I’ve been up to date with the thread and game, where as you’ve literally slid by. As you completely ignored this. On April 10 2020 02:57 ShoCkeyy wrote: Did Trfel just oust himself? He claimed all of the four remaining players aside from himself are town... | ||
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On April 12 2020 16:14 Trfel wrote: I don't really think it's Hapahauli, it's possible, but it would be some pretty brilliant mafia play if it is him. Hapahauli posted his reasons for lynching Jockmcplop quite early on, it felt like a genuine push to me. You really think Hapahauli is mafia? It’s quite possible based on this convo On April 10 2020 03:07 ShoCkeyy wrote: Sorry that was for Trfel, but my clueless question was coming up. I wanted to ask, after you cased Jock, I'm assuming it happened after he voted for me, did Hap jump on the Jock wagon? I went back to the beginning of the thread, but I got a massive headache just trying to think about the beginning of the game again after BC turned up town. Like that shit stressed me the fuck out. On April 10 2020 03:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yeah he cased him about half an hour after i had my discussion with jock. After I did check, and yes, Hap did case Jock after the convo. Hap decided to case Jock right after he insta voted for me. Rayn was fine with lynching Hap, but was fine with lynching Jock too. | ||
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On April 12 2020 16:51 ShoCkeyy wrote: Hap in all honesty. He was willing to double lynch, suggested self lynch to get a second town kill. If Rayn was willing to lynch, and I had my first vote on him, my gut says it has to be Hap. This Chez vote coming from him today feels odd because at one point he says you were town. On April 07 2020 01:53 Hapahauli wrote: No no no no you don't get to run away from this. How does any of this make any fucking sense. Mafia-hapa is giving himself up because he and Jock are town? Also just so you know, Haps third post in the game was the Jock case. | ||
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On April 12 2020 16:54 Chezinu wrote: What if Mr. Truffles double rolled mafia..? Is see it as a possibility due to his play style this game is familiar. | ||
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This was the best post along with Vivax the whole game. I couldn’t stop thinking about it. | ||
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On April 13 2020 02:05 Hapahauli wrote: GG yo. Apologies to BC. Valient effort Shockey. Vivax MVP. GG, I fucked up because I overslept my night kill by accident. | ||
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On April 13 2020 02:11 Hapahauli wrote: Who would you have killed? Chez lol | ||
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On April 13 2020 02:17 Hapahauli wrote: Uh... You mean other than forgetting the definition of cheating? Christ. I'm surprised GB didn't modkill me on the spot. Yea I thought chez would of voted you for that since it was “scummy” as hell haha | ||
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On April 13 2020 02:15 Vivax wrote: lol, it actually cast some decent shade on Chez in the obs. Good one playing the derpy town though, you weren't that obvious. Hapa didn't get rusty either. Yea I figured the most obvious things would let me slide the best. Like when I NK you, lmao | ||
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On April 13 2020 15:44 Jockmcplop wrote: You played well I thought. I completely screwed up on day 1 but you're right you almost had it. Shitttt your day 1 play was good enough to never have 100% suspicion on me, so I really commend you for that, and thank you cause w.o that, I would of been a goner D2 haha. | ||
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