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Humm... Spirit of the last big Hurrah makes me want to /in
But...
My mental state has really only gotten worse since the last time I played so I would likely either remain pretty aloof or just be a detriment to whatever side I end up on.
Yea, assuming I remember this whenever it starts I should prob just obs.
I will totally cave to peer pressure and play though... assuming nobody has issues with me, which I'd totally understand after how I acted last game.
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I suppose I was unintentionally furthering the stereotype of the bad Asian female driver... I really just wanted to put the reference for the joke I was making. In hindsight, context was probably unnecessary.
Personally I tend to be most bothered by drivers who feel like they own the road. You know the people who bob and weave in and out of traffic playing the “me first” game. Who, despite knowing full well their lane is ending, will zoom as far past as many people as possible before merging over.
I find it odd how there is a thread of thought that gender has any bearing on driving ability, when clearly there is no difference between men and woman drivers. I do have to concede that there are cultural differences in driving. One thing I notice is that in EU drivers tend to use car horns as an alert whereas in the US drivers tend to use it as a shout (usually in anger at traffic or telling someone to go).
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While I have actually been to Italy my perception is probably horribly biased due to traveling to EU as a tourist (thus not driving much myself) as opposed to living and commuting daily in my native city.
I think I was reaching for the cultural thing as a way of explaining where stereotypes might arise from. I should have played it safe and used the “British ppl drive on the left”
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I'm tempted to Out, but I'll make some effort as I can for the spirit of the thing...
My roommate (who is Schizophrenic) went missing yesterday after loosing his job, threatening his boss he was gunna kill himself, and made a FB post that he had taken enough pills to kill himself.
Don't expect much from me.
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Trying out something diff, since ppl generally hate my posting style.
+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:01 Trfel wrote:Hi, I am mafia Trfel: Almost always town, or hasn't actually read his PM.
LS: First 3 posts make me lean town too, super carefree.
Chez: + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:04 Chezinu wrote:Memorandum In Memoriam Dear colleagues: I have been informed that there is a rumor going around that the end of Liquidia is upon us. From our intelligent agencies that report to the corporate office, we see no indication that the fountains of the deep have been vaporized. It is true that there has been a lack of springs in the recent season, but this has nothing to do with the end of the well but rather it is part of the natural dry season. Go ahead and do your research if you are still concerned. We are currently experiencing in El Nino. Now to address the real issue. The issue that is currently a root that is draining our well. This root harms the company and does not bear fruit. This root is gossip. Now, let us uproot it. Please be wary of what you hear. Take captive of your thoughts and be sure to bridle your tongue. If you have any questions or concerns, please speak openly in the public forums or if it is a more sensitive topic then please speak with human resource in the corporate office. In the meantime, the executive committee has decided to launch an investigation to find the seed that started this root. To ensure the welfare of the company, all utilization of the company’s personal messaging will be temporarily banned until we complete our investigation. Thank you for time, Chezinu Isunizehc Cool Points for the Sig, pretty NAI post... I Kinda note the Push for finding Mafia... gut says townlean.
+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:06 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 10:02 LightningStrike wrote:On March 02 2019 10:01 Trfel wrote:Hi, I am mafia Cool who are your buddies? Can't you just check the QT? Also, to unvote in the mayor election you unmayor someone? That sounds pretty crazy xD And before anyone asks the inevitable question, there are seven mafia in the game, so we don't have to argue about it, cool?
Yea, this dude is super town. Also makes me realize there is a mayor vote, which while probably important I super don't care about kus that BS is mostly about popularity. Probably not gunna bother with it, but will be goaded into taking a stance at some point.
Gunna do these one page at a time (this is my thoughts as I read). I don't care if you hate it or not.
And no, I probably will not stick to this style as the game goes on.
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+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:I'm running for mayor and my platform is to lynch Trfel Meapak_Ziphh, hereafter referred to as Meap, is the first possible mafia sighting.
+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 10:16 Holyflare wrote:On March 02 2019 10:06 Trfel wrote:On March 02 2019 10:02 LightningStrike wrote:On March 02 2019 10:01 Trfel wrote:Hi, I am mafia Cool who are your buddies? Can't you just check the QT? Also, to unvote in the mayor election you unmayor someone? That sounds pretty crazy xD And before anyone asks the inevitable question, there are seven mafia in the game, so we don't have to argue about it, cool? No self respecting town person reads setup. You're mafia. This is outstanding analysis and I agree with it 100%
Meh, HF's post is NAI for me (seems more like a general poke, than a real accusation) but my gut really seems to think Meap is mafia all the more for this.
+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 10:17 Fecalfeast wrote:On March 02 2019 10:12 LightningStrike wrote:On March 02 2019 10:08 Fecalfeast wrote: Vote me for mayor. I will be the arbiter of truth and justice But how do we know that you're town here? For anyone to know that I'm town at this point, that person would have to be scum. I'm here to find scum and lynch them, not prove that I'm town by any means that aren't incidental to my stated goals. Do you know if youre town? This is prob just kus Rayn and I have very different personalities/outlooks, but these sort of questions bug me. It's really an accusation that FF is slipping that he is actually mafia, but it's very implied that FF means "anyone else" as he is unlikely to be thinking about his own position. So probably just a weak poke from Rayn, but I dislike. Mostly kus what sort of response do you expect from this question? How can it help you?
Meap seems very Mafia to me on this page, he even does this "Guide me Senpai" thing with HF that I hate. + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:20 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 10:18 Holyflare wrote:On March 02 2019 10:17 LightningStrike wrote:On March 02 2019 10:16 Holyflare wrote:On March 02 2019 10:06 Trfel wrote:On March 02 2019 10:02 LightningStrike wrote:On March 02 2019 10:01 Trfel wrote:Hi, I am mafia Cool who are your buddies? Can't you just check the QT? Also, to unvote in the mayor election you unmayor someone? That sounds pretty crazy xD And before anyone asks the inevitable question, there are seven mafia in the game, so we don't have to argue about it, cool? No self respecting town person reads setup. You're mafia. He already claimed mafia though didn't you read the opening of the game? No self respecting townie reads the whole thread. Sheeeeiiiit this is more quality analysis I can get behind Is lightingstrike scum too HF? Gut wants me to vote Meap, so vote Meap I shall.
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+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:27 Damdred wrote: LS is town, that is all.
More when I get home and find a town circle to kill from within.
Ehh, I can't make up my mind what I want to say about this, I agree with him (which typically gives me townfeels for Damdred) but this feels like an easy, "free" read and post from Damdred. For some reason was noteworty to me... idk.
Dam Trfel... + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:29 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 10:23 Holyflare wrote: For real though trfl why do you say 7? Honestly, just guessing. Seems like the right number, that or six, I'd rather overestimate than underestimate. As to why, I figured it would be eye-catching You said(typed) it with such confidence though, I Believed...
+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:30 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 10:29 Jockmcplop wrote:On March 02 2019 10:27 Damdred wrote: LS is town, that is all.
You got that from him saying that he's always town? I know because I'm masons with ls. Ok... Damdred Probs town.
+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:31 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 10:27 Holyflare wrote:On February 18 2019 06:38 calgar wrote: + I feel like this guy wanted in and was abandoned. Holyflare, Great detective work! I would love to have you on my team as lead investigator! I will be sure that the corporate office hear of this amazing discovery! Best, Chezinu Isunizehc Why does this game irrelevant post get praise from you Chez?
+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:33 LightningStrike wrote:Me and Damdred aren't masons even though I wish we were masons
Honest to a fault... Totes town.
Willing to give solid townleans on Trefl and LS, and a minor townlean on Damdred thus far. I've also got a bit of a gutread on FF at this point, but I'm not sharing it yet.
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+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:36 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 10:33 LightningStrike wrote:Me and Damdred aren't masons even though I wish we were masons LightningStrike, Thank you for the clarification of the alleged misuse of the company's personal messaging system. We will conducted an investigation and remove the individual spreading misinformation. I would advise that we nominate Damdred for being the most suspicious person based on your testimony. If your statement is true, Damdred is spreading more rumors in the company. This cannot be tolerated! Thank you! Chezinu Isunizehc
I dunno... This Chez does not seem to be having fun. I don't know if I like this Chez.
+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:41 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 10:40 Conversion wrote: I'm mafia with Damdred, Chezinu, Blazinghand, iamperfection, ExO_, and Vivax
good last game guys GG wp Please don't be legit Points to HF for having a similar reaction as me to Conversion's entry post. Though I am forced to believe that Conversion is just making a bad joke as Damdred just feels like town to me thus far.
+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:42 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 10:40 Conversion wrote: I'm mafia with Damdred, Chezinu, Blazinghand, iamperfection, ExO_, and Vivax
good last game guys GG wp IM ACTING ASTONISHED. Can't tell if kinda bad joke entry or just forced... feels forced.
Conversions entry post feels a bit weird, but honestly Gracks is the more noteworty to me. Conversion's at least has the potential to be a reaction gathering post. I just find it odd Grack has read 3 (I think this is 3) pages of the game and this is the post he reacts to, and in such a forced feeling way.
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+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 10:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 02 2019 10:33 LightningStrike wrote:Me and Damdred aren't masons even though I wish we were masons Y u say this? This is the most suspicious thing in the game.
What? Why?
+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:45 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 10:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 02 2019 10:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 02 2019 10:33 LightningStrike wrote:Me and Damdred aren't masons even though I wish we were masons Y u say this? This is the most suspicious thing in the game. nuh uh this is Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 10:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 02 2019 10:41 Conversion wrote:On March 02 2019 10:41 LightningStrike wrote:On March 02 2019 10:40 Conversion wrote: I'm mafia with Damdred, Chezinu, Blazinghand, iamperfection, ExO_, and Vivax
good last game guys GG wp So you saying Trfel lied about being mafia earlier? yeah we should lynch him for lying tbh Hmm. I'm gonna go with the assumption that you're just BSing. But I wanna know why you picked those specific players for you scum team? Kinda like this post from Tumble, it is odd Meap would call Conversions' list BS, then act like there is meaning in the names selected. Disagree it is the most sus, but to each their own.
Rayn's posts feel pretty bleh to me thus far, at least until his post about agreeing with Tumble's logic.
Also, FeelsGoodMan, you all came to agree with my Much Earlier conclusion about Meap likely being mafia.
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+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 11:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am still wondering why Meapak clinged onto LS' post on not being masons with Damdred since given his attitude towards Trfel and Conversion Damdred's post of being masons should be 100% more concerning to him.
I'm not sure I follow this without backtracking alot, and while I am reading and posting I am still naturally lazy...
At least this smells like Rayn style game-solving so I will leave him be to do his thing.
+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 11:07 Chezinu wrote: You know... it doesn't seem like an end of the world party without someone getting nuked..
I too kinda wish this was a GreyMist (I hope I am remembering his name right) style, crazy theme game, but realistically that is a shitton to ask of any host. I can be content with the work Kita has put into pushing for and hosting a 35 person game.
+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 11:10 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 11:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am still wondering why Meapak clinged onto LS' post on not being masons with Damdred since given his attitude towards Trfel and Conversion Damdred's post of being masons should be 100% more concerning to him. I find LS to be oddly apologetic with his play rn, Damdred didn't claim scum (which I view as inherently anti town) so I don't really care about his play, I just find it weird that LS wanted to blow it up so fast. This is what I'm talking about when I say "apologetic" Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 10:15 LightningStrike wrote:On March 02 2019 10:14 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 02 2019 10:12 LightningStrike wrote:On March 02 2019 10:08 Fecalfeast wrote: Vote me for mayor. I will be the arbiter of truth and justice But how do we know that you're town here? You don't, which is why you gotta vote for me since I'm advocating lynching the hella confirmed scum. You're ruining the fun man Not like I was asking someone to use my gun to kill a 2nd game lol..... Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 10:23 LightningStrike wrote:But HF it's just the start of the game I trying to have some fun Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 10:33 LightningStrike wrote:Me and Damdred aren't masons even though I wish we were masons Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 10:38 LightningStrike wrote:On March 02 2019 10:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 02 2019 10:33 LightningStrike wrote:Me and Damdred aren't masons even though I wish we were masons Y u say this? Because I speakign the truth? I wish I could be masoned with Damdred one of these games.
LS can be a hard player to read, but all these posts are honest sadness that people are starting to play for real and not just joke around and shoot the breeze as many recent games have started.
Not saying I have some kinda God-Read on him or anything, but that is how I try to and what I get from those posts.
+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 11:13 Jockmcplop wrote: Is it me or is meapak throwing suspicion around without actually trying to get any information? Looks like that is the only story of the last couple of pages It's not just you. I am however having a hard time reading Jock thus far, my gut read on his feels townish but posts like this feel like he is trying to blend. Must keep an eye out and try not to forget he exists.
Feeling better about Rayn after this page.
Grack is around the same place as Jock for me at this point.
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On March 02 2019 11:20 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 11:13 Jockmcplop wrote: Is it me or is meapak throwing suspicion around without actually trying to get any information? Looks like that is the only story of the last couple of pages I haven't read the thread too carefully and I haven't looked at my PM yet but I think throwing suspicion around automatically gets you information unless he's actively prohibiting you from doing so
This is an odd entry. Kinda NAI with the claim to not have read Role-PM yet, so I suppose I have to give it a pass.
#347 from Jock allievates some of my feels. Good explanation of where his head is at. Ehh, rereading it this could be faked, but it matches with where my head is at so natually makes me feel good.
+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 11:28 Holyflare wrote: Jesus christ what a boring couple of pages you guys came up with. Just circles. Well it's a good thing you decided to help add something of value then...
+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 11:33 Rels wrote:yo Whats this? A Wild Rels sighting on Day 1?
Careful people, don't want to scare him off...
Not at all sure what to make of UoN yet, Jock and Grack still somehow tied in feels.
Not sure why, but Moscta's entry gave me a gut-townlean. Pretty NAI from a rational perspective though.
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+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 12:21 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Free lunch sounds like a good perk.
I also motion that we modify the corporate structure of the town and re-organise as a cooperative. For the town and by the town sounds like a good motto to me. It's important that we own the means or production lynching. The bolded line sounds like Pandering to me, not sure how else to explain... Also kinda a throwaway entry, so yea. Bleh.
+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 12:34 iamperfection wrote: Welcome to the end of the world and a new beginning for TL Mafia. Now for those of you who don't know me, I am Perfection, your new hero, your party host, and most importantly, the most charismatic showman to ever enter your living rooms via a computer screen. And for those of you who DO know me, well, all hail the Ayatollah TL MAFIA! Now when you think of the end of the world, you think of an event so gigantic that it changes the course of history. You think of a dawning of a new era. In this case, the dawning of a new era in the TL maifa. And a new era is what this once proud and profitable website needs. What was once a captivating, trend-setting game has now deteriorated into a cliched, let's be honest, boring snoozefest that is in dire need of a knight in shining armor, and that's why I'm here. iamperfection has come to save tl mafia!
Now let's go over the facts. Game Quality, downward spiral; town play, plummeting; main site acceptance, non-existent; and reactions of the obs, complete and utter silence. And I know why you're silent! You're silent because you're embarrassed to be here. And quite honestly, I'm embarrassed for you. And the reason why you're embarrassed is because of the steady stream of uninteresting, untalented, mediocre "players" who you're forced to cheer for and care for. No wonder you're not cheering! You could care less about every single idiot in this game, and especially this idiot hosting the game. You people have been led to believe that mediocrity is excellence. Uh-uh. iamperfection is excellence. And now for the first time in TL mafia history, you have a man who can entertain you. You have a man who is good enough for you. You have a man who can make you jump up off your chairs, raise your filthy fat little hands from your keyboards in the air and scream "Go perfection go! Go perfection go! Go perfection go!" .
The new era has arrived for TL mafia, and now that iamperfection is here, this community—from the game managing idiots to all the amateurs in this game, to everybody watching from the obs—will never, ee-e-e-e-ever be the same... again! I got bored while reading this, someone plz tell me if I missed anything important.
Pretty uneventful page imo, and I believe I am almost caught up... So Yay Me!
Oh IamP's flippant post about first bit of the game being boring (he said he agreed with HF) gave me town-feels.
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+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 12:59 Chezinu wrote:You needs a story! You need a Theme! The candidate with the best story theme gets my support!! Go Forth! Write like never before! Did you give up your own campaign?
+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 13:42 iamperfection wrote: just trying to figure out your alignment no need to have an existential crisis Yea, I think I am cool with IamP for town.
+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 13:47 Alakaslam wrote: Hi.
Just got off shift at sushi bar.
Gonna go home but, do not vote me as mayor Given Slam, this is prob NAI, but feels like an Odd post. "Hi, I'm here but not here. Don't make me Mayor"
+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 13:48 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 11:07 Conversion wrote: I'd be happy to lynch him as of 9:07 PM EST though Sorry I'm not understanding, what specifically changed? In other news, my reason to be suspicious of raynpelikoneet was completely wrong, whoops. Never mind me. Think you misinterpreted this Trfel, pretty sure he was just saying that at the time of that post he was happy to lynch him.
+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 14:13 Alakaslam wrote: After that, I’d say Ace or you. Really Slam? HF>BH>Ace=Chez for Mayor? all without having read the game yet?
Oh god then this Tictock guy starts posting.... wait...
Meh, I am being nitpicky about Slams posts, but I am getting weird feels from em.
Chez dropping the "corporate letters" thing to just post feels pretty towny to me. Just seems happy to play.
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On March 02 2019 14:39 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 14:15 Tictock wrote: And no, I probably will not stick to this style as the game goes on.
The firmity of this statement saddens me.
Why?
Eventually I am bound to do similarly as you and just post as I want.
Was mostly my way of keeping to the way that I like to play (reply to posts as I feel) but keep it a bit more organized than replying to every post I have thoughts about.
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On March 02 2019 14:57 iamperfection wrote: like if he is mafia he did make a mess of those first few pages
Awkward Mafia is awkward?
I see where you are coming from, but personally he is still my strongest scum read.
What do you make of ppl like Jock, Grack, and Mr Wiggles?
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On March 02 2019 15:15 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 14:55 Tictock wrote: I dunno... This Chez does not seem to be having fun. I don't know if I like this Chez.
Save the Chez?
Sure Save the Chez, but prob not Chez for Pres
You just felt like you were forcing youself to do the letter stuff, even when what you were posting didn't fit it. I would probably be calling you mafia if you were still at it.
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On March 02 2019 15:58 sicklucker wrote: Hi im mafia
So original, so Wow!
Sorry I am just getting bored now that I am mostly seeing my own catch-up posts. I've also been reading for awhile and should take a break.
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On March 02 2019 16:01 sicklucker wrote: Well thats the point it was my first opening post. maybe now it will be my last!
You are just the 3rd person to open like that..
*Shrug*
And sorry Chez, you can't Falsify my feelings. My Gut Rules All!
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On March 02 2019 16:02 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 16:00 Tictock wrote:On March 02 2019 15:58 sicklucker wrote: Hi im mafia So original, so Wow!
Sorry I am just getting bored now that I am mostly seeing my own catch-up posts. I've also been reading for awhile and should take a break. Hate to break it to you.. you were almost here...
Ah but, how can I ever be there, where Here is a line that ever moves Forward?
I'd be like a doG chasing it's own Tale, no?
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I asked about the people who I felt were most blendy, or who I had the weakest reads on. I decided a long time ago that I have to judge people based on the quality of their posts not the quantity, so if ppl only provide a few posts I just have to weigh they that much more.
I kinda agree about that Jock post though IamP, I think I pinged it in one of my catchup(ketsup?) posts.
Anyways, think I'm out for the night. May try and read some more in the morning but have plans with friends tomorrow as I need to get out of the house and clear my head of my roommate situation.
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Continuing to Catchup from page 23. + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 16:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 14:30 Tictock wrote:[...] + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 10:17 Fecalfeast wrote:On March 02 2019 10:12 LightningStrike wrote:On March 02 2019 10:08 Fecalfeast wrote: Vote me for mayor. I will be the arbiter of truth and justice But how do we know that you're town here? For anyone to know that I'm town at this point, that person would have to be scum. I'm here to find scum and lynch them, not prove that I'm town by any means that aren't incidental to my stated goals. Do you know if youre town? This is prob just kus Rayn and I have very different personalities/outlooks, but these sort of questions bug me. It's really an accusation that FF is slipping that he is actually mafia, but it's very implied that FF means "anyone else" as he is unlikely to be thinking about his own position. So probably just a weak poke from Rayn, but I dislike. Mostly kus what sort of response do you expect from this question? How can it help you? [...] I was making a joke because i didn't want to say i think Trfel is town and wanted to see where that train went. Which was the only thing goin on in the game atm. Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 15:39 Tictock wrote: Oh IamP's flippant post about first bit of the game being boring (he said he agreed with HF) gave me town-feels. I disagree with this completely. iamp +1'd HF for "nothing happening" and continued to do nothing except for asking Chezinu something that i feel is completely non-alignment indicative and i can't understand how that was to get a read on him. On March 02 2019 16:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well yeah on the other hand i agree what he said on Acrofales.
Ok, I can see where your head is at Rayn. Like I said before, I'll try to hold off judgement and let you do your thing.
+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 16:27 Acrofales wrote: Well, clearly failing as you just posted 3 one-liners in a row. Think. Then post. Also, my intention is quite obvious. I'm going away for the weekend and don't want to read 1000 posts like your last 3 when I get back. I like this retort... though it was quite right Acro's entry got flagged (maybe not as many times in one page like it did).
Re: #458 Both are clearly joke posts (NAI overall, but slightly more likely to come from town than scum), over-analyzing grammar and punctuation is not productive imo. I've been finding myself Reverting to an old typing tick of mine where I add Capitalization for some kinda emphasis as I type. It makes sense to me as I do it, but it may not have much worthwhile Deeper Meaning.
+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 16:38 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 16:31 sicklucker wrote:On March 02 2019 16:27 Acrofales wrote: Well, clearly failing as you just posted 3 one-liners in a row. Think. Then post. Also, my intention is quite obvious. I'm going away for the weekend and don't want to read 1000 posts like your last 3 when I get back. then just vote the person you think is mafia before you go and stop being such a weiner I don't have any such opinions. As I said. I read 3 pages of useless blather and then stopped reading. Iamp is doing his eternal angry-when-I-post thing and you decided to hop on the bandwagon of being angry. Chezinu sent me his filter,and I like that. I might just play this game by only reading it through Chezinu's filter. At least that is (a) entertaining and (b) shortish. Eh, I dislike the continued excuses and distancing Acro is doing in his posts.
Overall I think I have to put Acro as scummier side of Null after this page, but kinda want to see what he does when he returns. Rayn is on the Townier side of Null for me.
SL is kinda interesting, my gut has a decent feeling about him, he seems Honest and Engaged. I notice some minor things that make me pause, but they are probably nitpicky. Overall feeling town.
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+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 16:55 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 16:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: Damdred, is it weird FF thinks LS might be mafia? is it bad that i think i should be careful of you cause you're doing the thing that you know i look for and you've proven that even in games where i'm not guaranteed to be a driving force you still cater to me? that said, okayish pile ho! On March 02 2019 16:57 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 10:27 Damdred wrote: LS is town, that is all.
More when I get home and find a town circle to kill from within. Not sure if this makes you town or just stating the obvious lol Rsoul gets instantly townpiled off gut read, and similar thinking to my own.
+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 16:59 Tubesock wrote: I like Chez because he’s entertaining.
I would love for a couple things in this game to be true. We RNG lynch Blazinghand, and that Chezinu hasn’t played with LightningStrike and falls to the rule of LS. Although that’s just the troll in me. I think Chez and LS are townie. Overall like this post from Tube... but THATS NOT HOW YOU RNG!!!
On March 02 2019 17:15 ExO_ wrote: I like turtles Ugh, i was willing to write off Exo's entry but this continued effort to post yet not engage with the game is unneeded clutter is a large game. Exo, please stop this. NAI overall though.
+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 17:19 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 14:15 Tictock wrote:Trying out something diff, since ppl generally hate my posting style. + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:01 Trfel wrote:Hi, I am mafia Trfel: Almost always town, or hasn't actually read his PM. LS: First 3 posts make me lean town too, super carefree. Chez: + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:04 Chezinu wrote:Memorandum In Memoriam Dear colleagues: I have been informed that there is a rumor going around that the end of Liquidia is upon us. From our intelligent agencies that report to the corporate office, we see no indication that the fountains of the deep have been vaporized. It is true that there has been a lack of springs in the recent season, but this has nothing to do with the end of the well but rather it is part of the natural dry season. Go ahead and do your research if you are still concerned. We are currently experiencing in El Nino. Now to address the real issue. The issue that is currently a root that is draining our well. This root harms the company and does not bear fruit. This root is gossip. Now, let us uproot it. Please be wary of what you hear. Take captive of your thoughts and be sure to bridle your tongue. If you have any questions or concerns, please speak openly in the public forums or if it is a more sensitive topic then please speak with human resource in the corporate office. In the meantime, the executive committee has decided to launch an investigation to find the seed that started this root. To ensure the welfare of the company, all utilization of the company’s personal messaging will be temporarily banned until we complete our investigation. Thank you for time, Chezinu Isunizehc Cool Points for the Sig, pretty NAI post... I Kinda note the Push for finding Mafia... gut says townlean. + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:06 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 10:02 LightningStrike wrote:On March 02 2019 10:01 Trfel wrote:Hi, I am mafia Cool who are your buddies? Can't you just check the QT? Also, to unvote in the mayor election you unmayor someone? That sounds pretty crazy xD And before anyone asks the inevitable question, there are seven mafia in the game, so we don't have to argue about it, cool? Yea, this dude is super town. Also makes me realize there is a mayor vote, which while probably important I super don't care about kus that BS is mostly about popularity. Probably not gunna bother with it, but will be goaded into taking a stance at some point.
Gunna do these one page at a time (this is my thoughts as I read). I don't care if you hate it or not. And no, I probably will not stick to this style as the game goes on. -squints at- you concern me If it's just kus of the "trying something diff" that's cool. Otherwise please elaborate. Unless of course you have Seen the Truth by the time you read this.
Hard and Fast townread on Rsoul that I am likely not going to change. Especially like the unpopular opinion re: Trfel and the exchange with Rayn. Liking Rayn for town the more I see from him as well (I reserve all right to become super paranoid about him later on though).
I can't recall if Exo is who I think I remember him being, but while I like the turtle pics I hope he doesn't post like this all day. Overall pretty sure I can't take anything he has said seriously and must wait for better content from him.
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#484 Well, to be fair my Chez read changes with about every other post from him. I would appreciate insight as I have only played a few games with him. The most noteworthy thing to me is that he is being clear as day with his posts and not at all cryptic and confusing. I was kinda giving that a pass and going more off the "having fun" factor as styles can change, and I know firsthand that trying to keep up a persona is taxing.
+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 17:27 ExO_ wrote: Ok. I LoL'd. But again, plz... stop...
Not much to add about this page (25 if anyone cares).
Exo is apparently the guy I thought. Kinda a shitter, does really off the wall shit "for reactions" but basically just calls anyone who reacts to him mafia. Decent chance he is town, but overall detrimental to the game. My recommendation: Vig or Ignore.
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On March 02 2019 17:41 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 17:39 Chezinu wrote:On March 02 2019 17:36 rsoultin wrote:On March 02 2019 17:35 rsoultin wrote: ##Mayor: iamperfection ##vote: Chezinu Shots fired and caught up and all that jazz ^^ r soul tin? Has my words caused your soul sorrow? The Netherland likes my presence not... 2 from Netherlands has my presence disturbed since the start of the game. Aw, baby, you've got it backwards. You have me dry as a desert with how little your presence has disturbed me <3
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#511 I feel like you have this backwards Vivax, someone pointed out how Meap's post went from calling Conv's post BS to having significance for the names chosen and then Conv accused Meap of believing him to be mafia. I do agree with your thought that Conv was going a bit too far with his train of thought, but that isn't necessarily scummy.
+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 19:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:Why i am asking is because i don't know why are voting iamp for mayor. For someone who plays as town as well as iamp does and who does not play as mafia -- at least afaik -- well at all what would be more easy than complain about Chezinu + those two guys' posting? That's basically all i have seen from him so far, aside from "could be could not be" read on MZ and the weird stuff i had no idea where that came from on the new guy. I mean this: Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 16:17 iamperfection wrote:On March 02 2019 11:13 Jockmcplop wrote: Is it me or is meapak throwing suspicion around without actually trying to get any information? Looks like that is the only story of the last couple of pages this one but i could be reading to much into it. Like a little too passive for my taste which is kinda funny because iamp in my opinion agreed with this, otherwise i don't know what this post means: Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 14:57 iamperfection wrote: like if he [Meapak] is mafia he did make a mess of those first few pages
I am not sure how -- comparing those two stances -- iamp comes to a conclusion that jockmcplop is suspicious. I mean like if the reasoning is, as he said, that jock's conclusion on Meapak is "little too passive", then i don't know how is his own conclusion while i don't see him disgreeing with what other people have said about Meapak. Or idk, maybe he is disagreeing with the post where he +1's Holyflare on "nothing is happening" but then again i don't know why would you not try to push the thread onto the right track as town and just let cases / opinions you think are crap fly around in thread. May not be my place to respond to this, but my read of IamP's posts you quoted was he was reacting to Jock and Meap somewhat in isolation. I don't think many people do the constant associative/connecting reads like you do Rayn.
Like not to say that this isn't a valid point, but I just think it is possible to have those two opinions IamP posted if you consider a PoV where you are not paying super close attention to the fact that Jock is poking at Meap in that post. Does that make sense?
I think you have a way of looking at the game that is very unique Rayn, but you run into the problem of assuming most people approach their reads similarly to you.
Vivax bringing his own view to the game feels town, but need more to solidify a read.
I think I can safely write off Rayn as town at this point.
Need to do Morning things, may have a chace to read more before I head out for the day. Seems unlikely I will get fully caught up though.
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On March 02 2019 19:54 rsoultin wrote: Also, even though I'm using the mayor slot to demonstrate where my townreads are, it's pretty irrelevant. Regardless of who we pick they should just be held accountable for lynching who town wants to lynch -shrugs-
Or are you suggesting rayn that we just leave that to the mayor and not simply use it as a second lynch mechanic?
100% agree with this. Going off this logic Rsoul would be my vote for Mayor.
Also, just enjoying this interaction between Rayn and Rsoul.
+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 20:33 Holyflare wrote: If anyone cares my reads align with rsoul. I think. Chez suspicious. Guy posting catch ups was it trfel? Seemed mediocre and not any revelations. Iamp piggybacking me suspicious. Don't care if I like what he's said about people non-posting. That's easy to do.
Didn't like rayn that much tbh. He seems to not be saying much but talking in walls of text and circles.
I dunno I'm sorry I'm a bit shit right now but whatever. Pretty sure that's me, and I don't give a shit kus you always seem to hate the way I interact with the game.
I also strongly disagree about Rayn, I see him pushing his own thoughts and thinking and explaining why, nothing circular at all.
HF seems to be posting to post and I don't like it, but it's not really a scum read right now. It's just him coasting.
+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 20:35 rsoultin wrote: Like for me it breaks down like this:
You've got trolling people. You've got lurking people. You've got lazy people. You've got some overly aggressives that aren't giving me warm fuzzies (MP). You've got people I'm not sure about who when I'm not sure about them have a nasty habit of being scum (Rayn) but because he's burned me so often I'm not sure if that's not where the uncertainty's coming from.
And then you have seemingly excited to play, I respect the shit out of his intelligence Chez playing but not saying anything interesting. That first group can hide a lot of bad town play. But doing something without doing anything ticks off my scum meter to a higher degree. Rsoul is starting to convince me... Idk. I don't particularly want to lynch Chez myself but I get where her read is coming from, and I am not opposed to a Chez lynch.
#540 Bloody's entry doesn't jive well with me, but mostly due to their reads being pretty opposite to my own. I can sorta see the logic in Bloody's reads, but it's very much in a scum-range of what to post to enter the game. Gut read leans scum, but I think deserves more to be on my watch list.
Speaking of my Watch List, I think it's something like this right now: Meap Grack Jock Mr. Wiggles Acro Bloddy HF (just not comfortable with him just floating around the game making no impact, yet being relatively present)
Rels is also close to being on this list for "playing" but only making a "Hi" post then laughing at something rayn did. He only escapes this list because I know he has actively avoided playing D1 as town in recent games. It's the fact that he tried to play a little but didn't actually that almost has him on it.
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+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 20:51 Vivax wrote: @ Rayn
MZ said explicitly that he's accepting convs scum claim as a joke, but he wanted to know why he put in those names anyway.
Why is that a reason for you to question his motives?
And why does Conversion instantly get on the defensive about it when MZ said it isn't a reason to scumread him? Vivax, Just my 2 cents: I read Conv's post you are referring to as more of an attack on Meap than defensive.
+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 20:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: Town: LightningStrike Tumblewood Conversion Trfel Tictock Vivax rsoultin
Maybe town: Holyflare Jockmcplop ExO_ Mocsta Rels
Maybe mafia: iamperfection Meapak_Ziphh Alakaslam Acrofales
Other people i have no idea about, except i feel like something 's off with sicklucker and fecalfeast but i can't point out directly what. Gonna try to sleep a bit more now, i caught a food poisoning on thursday so the last couple of days haven't been well for me regarding sleep and food. I can get behind Rayn's list post here. Expect his Maybe Town reads on Mocsta and Rels, I don't know how on earth Rayn thinks he has enough to go on from either of them to even maybe have a townread on them.
+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 21:01 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 20:58 rsoultin wrote: What are your reads that don't matter BC? Why the hell would I post a read that doesnt matter? If i don't have someone directly pinned as green/red they are neutral until a) I have time to filter dive them and get a better idea of a read b) They do something that pushes them one way or the other. Talking about my "42%" chance to be scum read as an example serves basically no fucking point. Like the tone of Bloody's 2nd post, he may have been per-maturley added to the watchlist.
+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 21:02 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 20:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 02 2019 20:51 Vivax wrote: @ Rayn
MZ said explicitly that he's accepting convs scum claim as a joke, but he wanted to know why he put in those names anyway.
Why is that a reason for you to question his motives?
And why does Conversion instantly get on the defensive about it when MZ said it isn't a reason to scumread him? Read again, MZ never said Conversion isn't mafia. He said quite the opposite, and i understood perfectly what Conversion was pushing him about. That being said i think that particular answer later on where he explains his stance on Conversion can come easily come from either town or scum, which is why i dropped the conversation about it. MZ was poking him about it as he said himself and that's how I was reading the entire thing. It's just you and conversion that seemingly are construing it as a scumread. Show nested quote +riddle me this: if you believe me to be mafia, in what world would my first post in a rather dull thread be exposing any of my teammates? if you were to believe I was mafia, as a townie you wouldn't care about my list as you'd have to believe I'm playing against mafia win condition by unnecessarily exposing my teammates for a joke post that wasn't even funny
if you believe I am town, then the order doesn't matter cause I'm just making a dumb joke And this quote from Conversion isn't something a townie would ever write. "Hey I made a joke post about me being mafia. Let me explain why if it weren't a joke post, it wouldn't make me mafia" Eh, Vivax beating something that bugs him into the ground makes me feel somewhat ok Townreading him, but I think he is wrong and am now tired of reading about it.
Wow... And apparently Rayn and I agree about this... Spooky.
+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 21:08 BloodyC0bbler wrote:To also add on to Vivax's point about conversion as a point of context. Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 11:00 Conversion wrote:On March 02 2019 10:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 02 2019 10:56 Conversion wrote:On March 02 2019 10:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 02 2019 10:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: What does it matter who he picked and why if he isn't actually mafia? lol who says he's not mafia? is your ironclad case of me being mafia the fact that I threw 6 random names as mafia? On March 02 2019 10:55 Chezinu wrote:On March 02 2019 10:50 Holyflare wrote:On March 02 2019 10:45 Tumblewood wrote:On March 02 2019 10:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 02 2019 10:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 02 2019 10:33 LightningStrike wrote:Me and Damdred aren't masons even though I wish we were masons Y u say this? This is the most suspicious thing in the game. nuh uh this is On March 02 2019 10:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 02 2019 10:41 Conversion wrote:On March 02 2019 10:41 LightningStrike wrote: [quote] So you saying Trfel lied about being mafia earlier? yeah we should lynch him for lying tbh Hmm. I'm gonna go with the assumption that you're just BSing. But I wanna know why you picked those specific players for you scum team? I can get behind this case. Absolutely. Holyflare, Corporate has heard of your desires to be included in the case concerning Conversion. You are now lead investigator on the manner. The executive committee is proud of your high quality work that has been done in such a short amount of time. I am confident that you will perform well in this investigation. Go forth! Chezinu Isunizehc I don't think he's casing me unless I'm reading his quote wrong I wonder where you read me having an ironclad case on you. riddle me this: if you believe me to be mafia, in what world would my first post in a rather dull thread be exposing any of my teammates? if you were to believe I was mafia, as a townie you wouldn't care about my list as you'd have to believe I'm playing against mafia win condition by unnecessarily exposing my teammates for a joke post that wasn't even funny if you believe I am town, then the order doesn't matter cause I'm just making a dumb joke As Mafia I have more than once bussed my team so that when I died people would ignore all my analysis / reads of who I thought was mafia and pick people I avoided talking about etc... Its led to more wins than it ever should have. Causing chaos / a nice cover for your team is never playing against your win con if you are mafia. Also he said he wanted to lynch Trfel for lying then proceeded to lie himself -_-
Bloody's bolded statement is a fair point (though from my experience with conversion isn't terribly AI, as he just sometimes doesn't make sense), but I have a hard time believing anyone thinks an opening post of "I"m mafia, my team is X,Y,Z" is anything related to bussing their team. Going a bit back and forth on Bloody, also the paper work to remove someone from my watch list is a bitch so he will likely remain there for now.
Also just a bit odd that Bloody has such a strong opinion regarding Conv here, yet just told Rsoul that he doesn't have any solid reads past his opening post...
+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 21:12 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote + if you were to believe I was mafia, as a townie you wouldn't care about my list as you'd have to believe I'm playing against mafia win condition by unnecessarily exposing my teammates for a joke post Or in other words: If you believe I'm mafia, then you believe I actually put my teammates into the list. But I'm not mafia cause that's against mafia wincon. There's so much wrong in that post. The more I read it the more it keeps on giving. Vivax, might I suggest letting it go for now and moving on? You seem rather stuck on this one post and there is already a bunch of other stuff to read.
Ok reading up through page 28 is as far as I get this morning.
Feeling waffley on Bloody still, but no experience playing with him so will just have to wait to read more.
I think I will be working through deadline tomorrow, and not sure I will have much time to catchup with reading. Will likely just leave my vote, but am willing to sheep Rsoul on Chez or move to anyone I included on my WatchList. I will try to make a little time tonight to read a bit more, but not making any promises.
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I'm home, but I don't feel like reading the last 20 pages.
Skimmed the last page, and am ok with Palmar's push on Sentinel.
Darth seems ok too, his list is more or less in line with my reads. Only differences are I'm more waffely on Bloody, and I am pretty sure LS is town. He is apparently unaware that I can tryhard as scum, but I doubt I would tryhard these days.
I think I would rather elect Palmar and have him lynch Sentinel rather than have everyone vote him for not reading his PM. Which is totally against the spirit of the game, only beneficial for scum, and totally a cop-out dickish move btw. I could understand not reading it right away, but outright refusing to read your role all of Day 1 means you might as well have not bothered to play at all.
Will be around for a bit if anyone wants to ask me about something, but I have literally no motivation to spend an hour + reading right now.
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I would rather elect Palmar and have him lynch Sentinel
Yea the more I think about it, lets do this.
##Elect: Palmar
I think having everyone lynch Sent would be a bit of a waste of Day 1 voting as he is kinda a coinflip (and we might get better information via a different lynch and resulting voting patterns), but am totally down with the Mayor killing him.
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On March 03 2019 10:02 kitaman27 wrote: Day One Vote Count
Mayor Holyflare (4): Tubesock, Alakaslam, Holyflare, rsoultin Chezinu (2): Chezinu, Chezinu, sicklucker FecalFeast (1): Fecalfeast Vivax (1): Grackaroni [UoN]Sentinel (1): [UoN]Sentinel Tumblewood (1): Ace Oatsmaster (1): Oatsmaster BloodyC0bbler (1): BloodyC0bbler Ticktock (1): Acrofales Palmar (1): Palmar iamperfection (0): Chezinu, rsoultin
Lynch Oatsmaster (4): Holyflare, Trfel, rsoultin, Alakaslam Meapak_Ziphh (3): Conversion, Chezinu, Tictock Acrofales (1): sicklucker iamprefection (1): BloodyC0bbler Grackaroni (1): Acrofales ExO_ (0): Jockmcplop Chezinu (0): rsoultin Raynpelikoneet (0): Alakaslam [UoN]Sentinel (0): Holyflare
Holyflare is currently leading the Mayor race and Oatsmaster is set to be lynched.
The deadline is Tuesday, Mar 05 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in .
Eww, why are we electing HF right now?
I hadn't read anything from him that made me feel like he was town in the part of the game I read, and the last game I played with him when he was Town he had like the worse reads ever, and spent a shit ton of time pressuring me just kus of how I like to play the game. No plz.
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Thought I'd filter Oats since he is the current lynch.
On March 03 2019 06:16 Oatsmaster wrote: mocsta posted one post and peaced ~~ possibly town,
iamp is putting in way too much effort to be town
tictock is reaching real far for their reads
Acro actually is a lawyer and lawyers should be lynched cause they are bad men HF too serious to be town
Ace actually posted the worst idea ive ever seen what was that nonsense
What is the bolded line? Has IamP suddenly spouted a bunch of tryhard posts, kus I didnt see any when I read and Oats did respond to any in his filter.
So far Oats could be scum, or could just be really really bad.
On March 03 2019 07:29 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 06:43 Trfel wrote:On March 03 2019 06:39 Holyflare wrote: If you don't comment on a really obvious inconsistency I'll be sad. I agree Oatsmaster's play has been quite subpar so far, and I agree that his assessment of your play this game is awful. However maybe I'm wrong in this but I don't feel like his play is mafia-motivated at all. I don't really think mafia would want to enter the thread late and use a bunch of garbage reasons to push suspicion at people, including people like you who are quite likely to respond and respond with a lot of weight. It would be an exceptionally stupid move. Maybe it's dumb but that makes me actually not want to lynch Oatsmaster right now. Or was there something else you were referring to? nice sheep buddy Confused by this, but I kinda like the post from Trfel that he is responding to. From what I can tell Trfel is actually going against the trend of wanting to lynch Oats, and instead gives a line of thought of why Oats might not be mafia.
Course then I note that Trfel is in fact voting for Oats... so yea negate that point in Trfel's favor.
Meh, I kinda doubt Oats is scum here tbh. He is being a bit of a shitter, but is doing it in an agressive idgaf sorta way that seems much more likely to come from town than scum imo. I get he is obnoxious, but I don't see what his goal is here if he were scum.
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Ok, I came, I saw, I did some things. Seems like ppl are not around so gunna do other things. May check in once more before bed but I am pretty sure I am not going to fully read the stuff I missed.
I'd like someone who is wanting to lynch oats to convince me why he is scum.
Similarly as to why ppl are voting HF for mayor.
If deadline was right now/soon I would push for Meap or Grack to lynch.
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On March 03 2019 18:18 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 13:24 Tictock wrote:I would rather elect Palmar and have him lynch Sentinel Yea the more I think about it, lets do this. ##Elect: PalmarI think having everyone lynch Sent would be a bit of a waste of Day 1 voting as he is kinda a coinflip (and we might get better information via a different lynch and resulting voting patterns), but am totally down with the Mayor killing him. Imagine not reading the thread and supporting the guy who has made one or two posts to be mayor when there is someone with a lot of posts advocating the same mayor lynch.
Clearly from my posts, and from me not reading, I did not know what your platform as mayor was.
But to be honest, at this point I just hate you. You berate how I read and catch up, you berate me when I don’t do that. I will just be ignoring you for the rest of the game because I will likely only get angry and possibly tilt if I have to deal with you.
Part of me wants to call you scum because you played with me in the last game where you know this had an effect on me, but here you are doing the exact thing again. Seems like you just don’t want to try and play nice and would rather ruffle my feathers. I choose not to put up with your shit.
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Ok I calmed down a bit and moved on.
I may try and read a little more while I am at the gym. But I think my overall game plan may be to sheep Rsoul since I had a strong townread on her and am otherwise not fully aware of what’s going on.
I have given my opinions thus far, hopefully the lynch at least somewhat aligns with them.
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On March 04 2019 00:55 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 00:41 Tictock wrote:On March 03 2019 18:18 Holyflare wrote:On March 03 2019 13:24 Tictock wrote:I would rather elect Palmar and have him lynch Sentinel Yea the more I think about it, lets do this. ##Elect: PalmarI think having everyone lynch Sent would be a bit of a waste of Day 1 voting as he is kinda a coinflip (and we might get better information via a different lynch and resulting voting patterns), but am totally down with the Mayor killing him. Imagine not reading the thread and supporting the guy who has made one or two posts to be mayor when there is someone with a lot of posts advocating the same mayor lynch. Clearly from my posts, and from me not reading, I did not know what your platform as mayor was. But to be honest, at this point I just hate you. You berate how I read and catch up, you berate me when I don’t do that. I will just be ignoring you for the rest of the game because I will likely only get angry and possibly tilt if I have to deal with you. Part of me wants to call you scum because you played with me in the last game where you know this had an effect on me, but here you are doing the exact thing again. Seems like you just don’t want to try and play nice and would rather ruffle my feathers. I choose not to put up with your shit. I am not berating you as a person. I am merely pointing out that it's a very strange platform for you to follow if someone else had said the exact same thing and yet you didn't bat an eyelid. If you did not know I said that and have actual personal reasons to not want to vote for me then fine. I am in no way insulting you as a person, nor do I dislike you as a person. I merely dislike the catch up style because it is contrary with how I like to play, which is conversational, which I believe you've refrained from doing with me for a while. I had genuine points on you this game which you've neglected to answer and then I had seen this vote. Do you think it is in my best interest to just ignore that or push it? I'm sorry you feel this way about me but I truly don't mean any offense by the way I talk. Honestly, I don't even remember the last game I played with you so that's on me I'm afraid. I hope we can get past this and actually talk about the game. Unless you are mafia in which case this post is disgusting.
I appreciate this. I typically prefer to have actually read things before I make time to converse and due to us being in different time zones it is unlikely we are active at the same time.
Just... fucking let me play as I choose and evaluate me based on content not how I play, Yo.
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It is also just impossible to be totally present in a game like this and have a Life. Yet Life has to come first so... yea.
And with that I need to get on with my day.
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Sorry guys, haven’t had any time. Went out for drinks with a girl I work with last night and am working up to deadline today.
My plan to sheep Rsoul is bunk kus she isn’t voting.
So I think I am leaving my mayor vote with Palmar kus supposedly he and HF have the same goal and I have no confidence in HF being town yet, plus my other issues with him.
Will consolidate on Acro as he seemed like a decent Lynch from what I have read.
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Just checking on Flip, way to much shit to read and I have zero motivation to try.
See I had decent reads on Trfel and Palmar, and was correct to not trust HF to be Mayor.
I think I may just ride out the rest of this game as much as I can and just see how good my D1 reads were. I have a long day at work again tomorrow, so Wednesday is the most likely day I will make an effort to do anything in this game.
In other news, I hate my life but I will not spend my time wallowing here.
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On March 05 2019 12:03 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 11:57 Tictock wrote: Just checking on Flip, way to much shit to read and I have zero motivation to try.
See I had decent reads on Trfel and Palmar, and was correct to not trust HF to be Mayor.
I think I may just ride out the rest of this game as much as I can and just see how good my D1 reads were. I have a long day at work again tomorrow, so Wednesday is the most likely day I will make an effort to do anything in this game.
In other news, I hate my life but I will not spend my time wallowing here. Are you kidding?
Why would you think I am kidding?
I work 10 hours days quite often and have been trying to have a life (and mostly failing), this game is not my top priority. In the day and a half that I have been absent this shit blew up like 100 pages, which is an easy 3+ hours of reading... and is very unlikely to be fun reading.
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Honestly, even without reading I'd wager HF is mafia this game.
Mayor Lynching Palmar when there are tons of people who are bound to be less useful and bigger question marks as the game goes on just screams of scum play.
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On March 05 2019 12:25 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 12:15 Tictock wrote:On March 05 2019 12:03 Mr. Wiggles wrote:On March 05 2019 11:57 Tictock wrote: Just checking on Flip, way to much shit to read and I have zero motivation to try.
See I had decent reads on Trfel and Palmar, and was correct to not trust HF to be Mayor.
I think I may just ride out the rest of this game as much as I can and just see how good my D1 reads were. I have a long day at work again tomorrow, so Wednesday is the most likely day I will make an effort to do anything in this game.
In other news, I hate my life but I will not spend my time wallowing here. Are you kidding? Why would you think I am kidding? I work 10 hours days quite often and have been trying to have a life (and mostly failing), this game is not my top priority. In the day and a half that I have been absent this shit blew up like 100 pages, which is an easy 3+ hours of reading... and is very unlikely to be fun reading. Skim if you have to, but it sounded like you said you're just giving up for the rest of the game, with "I think I may just ride out the rest of this game as much as I can and just see how good my D1 reads were.".
Nah, I'll be active and shit when I can, but Fuck reading every damn post in this game.
From the couple of posts I see from Wave here I'd wager he could very well be town. His head is in a pretty sensible place from how it looks like EoD went down. (I am going off of the vote counts and I am assuming Wave wants to lynch BH due to him being in the lead for awhile then last min vote swapping switching it to Trfel)
Conversion is also highly sus for the super last min vote swap to Trfel, and if BH does turn out to be mafia is almost certainly mafia with him.
Oh another Reason why HF should be murdered... Who in the hell thinks it's a good idea to kill the person with the 2nd most Mayor votes? That suggests that a large number of people trusted/supported/townread Palmar and is therefor a VERY shitty choice for a person to execute.
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On March 05 2019 12:37 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 08:46 rsoultin wrote: it's not even for a good reason it just /feels/ like maybe he's town lol >< fml I hate this post, I hate hate HATE it. I'm not going to start in with 'well if she was scum she'd be too self conscious to be wishy washy' fuck that. It reeks of TMI and even more so when she doubles down here Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 08:53 rsoultin wrote: eh it's bugging me more if trfel is town that palmar voted off bh to wiggles at the end, but since we're likely to get a palmar flip too i guess that'll resolve things lol >< When this was not 2 hours before Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 06:10 rsoultin wrote:On March 05 2019 06:07 Koshi wrote: Lynch Tfrel. Gives us info and he is unworthy. Gogogogo I'm on board with this lol >< (now watch Koshi jump off like a hot potato cause he's bad) Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 06:29 rsoultin wrote:On March 05 2019 06:27 Ace wrote:On March 05 2019 06:21 rsoultin wrote: Yeah I still think Palmar is likely to be scum. Have no issue whatsoever mayoring Iam and killing BH (though I'm thinking we're likely to see a town flip there tbh) but I'm not changing my vote if it makes Palmar mayor. If you think BH is going to flip Town, then why not lynch Palmar? I'd be happy to lynch Palmar if anyone wanted to lynch Palmar. I'm also happy to lynch Truffle and Tube. And Rayn if it comes to it. Also LS, but my bad rsoul doubting brain is less confident about him. So assuming she knows Trfel and Palmar are town look at how close to deadline she starts waffling on BOTH of them. Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 08:53 rsoultin wrote: eh it's bugging me more if trfel is town that palmar voted off bh to wiggles at the end, but since we're likely to get a palmar flip too i guess that'll resolve things lol >< Reading this again, the Trfel thing looks bad, but look at how totally ok she was with Palmar flipping, ostensibly when she thought HE PROBABLY WOULDN'T. Then as it becomes more likely a reality it's 'bugging her' that Palmar (her scumread) changed his vote from BH (her townread) to Wiggles. Rather than committing to her scumread on Palmar she drops the hard stance before the flip. Even if you can come up with a towny explanation for this (I can - simply her changing her mind ---without showing much context but whatever, sure), look at how her tone changes from exuding confidence to meek and unsure as the deadline looms closer. She wants to look good because she's supposed to know Trfel and everyone on Palmar is going to look like shit regardless. Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 06:29 rsoultin wrote:On March 05 2019 06:27 Ace wrote:On March 05 2019 06:21 rsoultin wrote: Yeah I still think Palmar is likely to be scum. Have no issue whatsoever mayoring Iam and killing BH (though I'm thinking we're likely to see a town flip there tbh) but I'm not changing my vote if it makes Palmar mayor. If you think BH is going to flip Town, then why not lynch Palmar? I'd be happy to lynch Palmar if anyone wanted to lynch Palmar. I'm also happy to lynch Truffle and Tube. And Rayn if it comes to it. Also LS, but my bad rsoul doubting brain is less confident about him. Also don't like this post because rather than push it she'd be 'happy to' but I digress. It just all looks and feels awful to me, and combined with the fact that she should very well know some of my scumplay (thank you LS, incidentally for bringing to light a game in which rsoul and I were scum together) I think rsoul is highly likely to flip RED
Ehh, this doesn't seem like a great scum case imo. Though I am biased by my early and possibly outdated read on Rsoul.
Mostly this comes down to Someone being rather waffely and indecisive at EoD, which happens a lot. Pressure builds, time is short, and when you are trying to see multiple perspective as well as consolidate shit gets wack yo.
This argument would have to be backed up by scum flips and showing how a scum!Rsoul potentially used not being able to make up her mind as a way to try and save teammates to have any weight, otherwise this is pure WIFOM or just you not liking her not being decisive.
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On March 05 2019 12:43 LightningStrike wrote: Wave that point about Tina was part of my newer reasons for scumreading her as well. Sicklucker did point it out but he townreads her for it though lmao.
SL can be a surprisingly smart dude sometimes.
Hell he might even be town this game, pretty solid chance I'd wager.
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On March 05 2019 12:53 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 12:50 Tictock wrote:On March 05 2019 12:43 LightningStrike wrote: Wave that point about Tina was part of my newer reasons for scumreading her as well. Sicklucker did point it out but he townreads her for it though lmao. SL can be a surprisingly smart dude sometimes. Hell he might even be town this game, pretty solid chance I'd wager. I think SL is wrong about Tina but he did bring forward a good piece of evidence for me (later wave used).
Besides the case Wave just posted (or anything in it), what are your reasons for scum reading Rsoul?
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Figuered I'd take a moment to filter Wiggles since I am pretty sure he was on my watch list earlier, and none of the posts I've read since jumping back in give me any sense of his alignment.
On March 03 2019 06:01 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 04:41 Tubesock wrote:On March 03 2019 04:32 Mr. Wiggles wrote:On March 03 2019 04:25 Tubesock wrote:On March 03 2019 04:20 Mr. Wiggles wrote:On March 03 2019 04:05 Tubesock wrote: There isn’t anyone I want to lynch.
If I were mayor I’d sheep Holyflare most likely for the 2nd lynch. I'm thinking I'd like to lynch you! Or are you making this guy mayor, Ace? That’s fair. I can vote HF for mayor sure. I don’t see how you could get me wanting Ace mayor out of what I said. You were one of the two names Ace threw out to make someone non-contributing mayor. Figure you're reading closely enough to say what you'd do as mayor, which no one else had mentioned but Ace, but still don't want to put forward an opinion about anyone. Reads scummy to me. When I have a lynch target I’ll let everyone one know. Do you want an opinion from me? Am I and Conversion your only scumreads? Who do you want for mayor and why? Yeah, I'd like to see some sort of contribution from you. What makes you want to support HF for mayor? Is it a scumread on Sentinel or some kind of policy lynch? You don't make that clear. I'm cool lynching scummy people just trying to coast by on the first day without needing to stick their necks out too much. That's people like you so far, and Conversion who's re-hashing the same argument with MZ instead of moving to anything else. Guys like Acrofales and and Sent fall into this bucket for me right now too. I'm not super thrilled with any of the mayoral candidates so far. I like HF the most from the people who've thrown their hat in since some of our reads jive. Disagree with him about Chez, his play seems par for the course from what I remember.
On March 04 2019 01:17 Mr. Wiggles wrote: @HF, you seem like a cool guy, but I'm thinking my mayor vote will be going to Palmar. You've got a bit of a loose cannon vibe going on whereas Palmar is essentially Judge Dredd.
@rsoultin: Chezinu is our albatross. If you kill him you'll be thirsty for the rest of your life.
@LS: I don't understand this weird martyrdom thing you're doing. If you're town why the heck would you want to just roll over and die because a couple people scumread you? Bad vibes.
Kinda a weird swap on Mayor votes. Seems odd to like HF kus "our reads jove" to then not liking him for being a "loose cannon" especially since he still seems to like HF (calls him a cool guy). Bit of a samll thing, but it feels inconsistent.
On March 04 2019 02:31 Mr. Wiggles wrote: HF came up with the idea first, but I'm not sure whether I trust HF more to follow through compared to Palmar, especially if HF starts coming up with more cases. Might be the case that they deviate at the last minute and cause a bunch of chaos. In that sense, I like Palmar for mayor because he's colder. This makes more sense, though it is oddly spot on for how EoD seems to have gone down.
On March 05 2019 03:16 Mr. Wiggles wrote: HF, can you mayor lynch trfel?
This shit comes outta left field, I havn't seen Trfel noted once in Wiggles filter, but now suddenly he wants to have him mayor lynched?
Similarly, Wiggles' stance on HF suddenly is back to a solid Townread.
On March 05 2019 01:47 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 01:46 Vivax wrote:On March 05 2019 01:44 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Managed to skim the thread before work. I like the Conversion case better than Acro and Oats right now for a D1 lynch. Missed the asking for permission angle the first time through, but even the recent stuff is weirdly fixated on MZ. Tunnel tunnel tunnel
No one else seems to give a crap about Tubesock. I'd be happier if people came out and argued I'm wrong for whatever reason, but instead Tube's being ignored by my town reads.
Will try to catch you again over lunch if possible, but otherwise won't be active until after lynch Why are you voting for a HF mayor? On March 04 2019 02:31 Mr. Wiggles wrote: HF came up with the idea first, but I'm not sure whether I trust HF more to follow through compared to Palmar, especially if HF starts coming up with more cases. Might be the case that they deviate at the last minute and cause a bunch of chaos. In that sense, I like Palmar for mayor because he's colder. I've got a decent town read on HF and we're not policy lynching Sent
Like I may have missed something, but I didn't notice any switch in stance from Wiggles moving his mayor vote away from HF earlier for being a "loose cannon" but a "cool guy"
On March 05 2019 05:15 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 04:50 iamperfection wrote:On March 05 2019 04:45 Mr. Wiggles wrote: What's with the BH train? If you want to kill a hardcore lurker like that why not use the mayor lynch? I don't see the benefit How can you not understand the train unless your scum. We have a lynch vote where people have to take a stance and justify themselves, and a mayor lynch where scum can push final responsibility away onto the mayor. Let the mayor kill the scummy lurker, vote to lynch more established cases that actually generate information. w We have three or four of them.
This post suggests an odd mindset to me, why is Wiggles thinking about scum pushing any sort of responsibility onto the Mayor? I'm not even sure that makes sense. Also noting this post to see how Wiggles reacts to HF lynching Palmar (who is one of the last people I'd expect to qualify as a "scummy lurker"). ...
And I see no reaction besides,
On March 05 2019 12:04 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Not how I thought the flips would go there
This guy is highly likely Mafia imo. Most of his posts are questions that go nowhere, his reads are not very evident and some that are feel contrived and switch and odd times for weird reasons. I detect almost no effort to analys anything, and the almost total lack of reaction to EoD gives me bad vibes.
Overall seems to just be trying to seen as "doing things" but doesn't seem to ever have very clear reads or goals in his posts.
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On March 05 2019 12:59 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 12:55 Tictock wrote:On March 05 2019 12:53 LightningStrike wrote:On March 05 2019 12:50 Tictock wrote:On March 05 2019 12:43 LightningStrike wrote: Wave that point about Tina was part of my newer reasons for scumreading her as well. Sicklucker did point it out but he townreads her for it though lmao. SL can be a surprisingly smart dude sometimes. Hell he might even be town this game, pretty solid chance I'd wager. I think SL is wrong about Tina but he did bring forward a good piece of evidence for me (later wave used). Besides the case Wave just posted (or anything in it), what are your reasons for scum reading Rsoul? Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 08:23 LightningStrike wrote: Just got home for like 30 minutes I voting Tina I think she's mafia at this point mainly her town around on me and her interactions with Rayn leaves me thinking she's scum. Originally swap to HF because I wasn't feeling the Sent mayor kill anymore but swap back because HF wants to kill Palmar who I think is likely town. TLDR her odd read shifts on me early and her interactions with rayn don't seem to come from Town!Tina from my perspective.(I made that post in on mobile so it did not come out as I wanted to.)
If it's not too much trouble, care to point me to one of these interactions?
The few interactions between them I saw suggested they were both town to me.
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On March 05 2019 13:34 Mr. Wiggles wrote: ?
My read on HF has been consistent through the day once I made it. For the policy lynch I liked Palmar better than HF to stick to it at first. The interaction with Ace made me switch my mayor vote to HF off of Palmar since I figured we'd get more information from how people reacted if HF deviated from the policy vote. Once Sent showed up and posted his role I kept it on HF because of the town read (Palmar was null to me at that point) and some similarity in reads.
The scummy lurker comment was directed at BH. Up to that point he hadn't posted and just showed up to ask people to kill him. I felt it was a derail of the current lynch wagons and would be a big pile on with no useful discussion for scum hunting. Figured the mayor could take him out instead.
I was wrong about trfel, but their post about Fecalfeast looked really bad to me at that point in the day. There wasn't a wagon yet, so again, that could have been a mayor lynch. Once the wagon formed I hopped on. I agreed with the analysis and I felt Conv wasn't happening and felt bad about the interview stuff too
*Shrug* Most of this means next to nothing to me since I haven't read the game fully.
All I can say is, having read your filter I don't see much that suggests you are actively trying to solve the game. You poke and prod a little at people but I find few conclusions and very few fleshed out scum reads. Seems to me like you are just floating through the game. + Show Spoiler +Yes I realize there is some hypocrisy in me saying someone is floating through the game when I am not reading it fully myself. I am however pursuing what strikes my interest and making an effort when I am able.
Makes you very likely to be scum imo.
Ok I def spent more time here than I intended to.
Now, off I go, never to be seen again! Unless I want to be seen... in which case, if you see me before I see you... watch out! + Show Spoiler +Idk, random quote from Red vs Blue
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On March 05 2019 13:45 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 13:21 Tictock wrote:On March 05 2019 12:59 LightningStrike wrote:On March 05 2019 12:55 Tictock wrote:On March 05 2019 12:53 LightningStrike wrote:On March 05 2019 12:50 Tictock wrote:On March 05 2019 12:43 LightningStrike wrote: Wave that point about Tina was part of my newer reasons for scumreading her as well. Sicklucker did point it out but he townreads her for it though lmao. SL can be a surprisingly smart dude sometimes. Hell he might even be town this game, pretty solid chance I'd wager. I think SL is wrong about Tina but he did bring forward a good piece of evidence for me (later wave used). Besides the case Wave just posted (or anything in it), what are your reasons for scum reading Rsoul? On March 05 2019 08:23 LightningStrike wrote: Just got home for like 30 minutes I voting Tina I think she's mafia at this point mainly her town around on me and her interactions with Rayn leaves me thinking she's scum. Originally swap to HF because I wasn't feeling the Sent mayor kill anymore but swap back because HF wants to kill Palmar who I think is likely town. TLDR her odd read shifts on me early and her interactions with rayn don't seem to come from Town!Tina from my perspective.(I made that post in on mobile so it did not come out as I wanted to.) If it's not too much trouble, care to point me to one of these interactions? The few interactions between them I saw suggested they were both town to me. The tone didn't feel natural from one end and felt like it's Scum vs Town and this post from Tina seemed a bit forced in my opinion: Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 07:32 rsoultin wrote:On March 05 2019 07:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: Ftr sorry HF i think i overreacted and i dont think youre mafia. But i dont like stuff that is not true on me. Also i always talk through people when i think they are mafia or id i think the conversation wont help either party. I didnt overreact on rsoultin. Regardless of what i say she wont change her read because her read is not based on not what i actually write, and i read her town, so no discussion is going to be productive.
Or she is mafia, but i dont believe it. These sorts of posts are why I hope you're mafia, actually. It's irritating as shit when you actively ignore me because I 'won't change my read'. I think if anything can be said of my play it's that I'm not a fucking mindless bulldog, and it's not as if I can even remember a game where I've tunneled the shit out of you when you were either alignment without reconsidering new information. But whatever. Behaving this way will make it difficult for me to see you as town if you are. And if you are, well, I'm really just sad that we apparently can't play this game together anymore and you know what...it's really not because of me. It's hard to describe but this post from Tina seemed like a good excuse for her to have a shit fight with Rayn? One of them definitely is town and the other is mafia on the tone between these posts from each other and in my opinion it's Tina. Anyways going to retire to my bed and when I wake up I will read everything!
Yea I actually still get the opposite impression between those 2 posts you quoted.
I've seen Rayn many a time bulldog down a scumread of his even when there is tons of evidence that he could be wrong, but since he sees something that colors a person red he will never let it go. Similarly will ignore someone he sees as townie who disagrees since he writes them off in his mind since he has "solved" their alignment. I'd go so far as to say that Rayn often is playing his own game of mafia, called "How right can Rayn be this game" (ok this is a bit unfair, and sorry Rayn, but it's how I perceive it).
Rsoul, conversely tends to want to interact with her Town reads to bounce ideas off another person and get a better sense of where he reads should maybe be. I see her as one of a handful of players who actively try to look at both sides of a player, what they might be thinking as town and what they might be thinking as scum. Sometimes when you do this (I do this as well) it becomes hard to decide which PoV is more likely and you wind up bouncing back and forth between these 2 PoV's.
That is also why I feel like Wave's case on Rsoul is shit, because that sort of waffely behavior is almost exactly what I tend to expect from a player who thinks like this.
So, TLDR: Both are behaving how I'd expect from what I perceive their characters and mind sets to be as town reacting to one another here.
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Ok, for real I am out this time as I need to go to bed.
Thank you LS for sharing your views, I think you are wrong, but I am all the more convinced you are like 80-90% town here form that.
Like I said earlier, don't expect shit from me again tomorrow (wont even be home till about this time) but will be around Wednesday.
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Just checking in quick, I think I will actually try and read from where I was last night, get a sense of how Night went, and then be somewhat active tomorrow.
Don't think I've read a post from Koshi at all this game, and I don't recall what my early read on Conversion was, so them flipping town is moot. IamP flipping town further enforces that I had good early reads though. Sucks we have lost so many blues though now (RIP Cop role, I am making the random assumption that there is a backup Doc)
Hope this game starts to slow down in another cycle or so, I really will never keep up if we keep doing ~50 pages a day.
Oh I find it interesting that Grack is starting off this Day by voting Sentinal, and while I in spirit support a lynch on HF I am going to try and get somewhat caught up before placing my own vote.
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Up for the day and seeing how far I get catchup reading before I get bored.
Reading the most recent few pages I get a strong vibe that Wave is town for how strongly he is pushing HF.
I could also see Vivax being town and doing what he is doing now. Not a very clear read, kinda biased based on my initial vibe from him.
As for HF, well my post about why I would not vote him for mayor still stands. He talks a lot but generally I don't think he has great reads, so yall should feel bad for voting him in because he is always a terrible Mayor. His choice to lynch Palmar was super, SUPER, shitty. Sadly this all boils down to an "Im not sure" conclusion from me though. I could see mafia!Flare taking the opportunity to off Palmar and rely on his ability to talk his way out of shit to dodge the lynch (don't at all buy his excuse of "I wouldn't do this as mafia" shit), I also felt like his recent post of "of the ppl voting me, these are the scum" was pretty shallow (of those I think Bloody is the only clear scummy guy). Yet I could still see this all being town!Flare just being kinda shitty. So I guess I'd say like 60% mafia!Flare for me right now.
Sticking with my not voting till I have read more. I'll try and keep reading the current bit of the thread, so I'll try to respond if people wanna ask me stuff or shout at me. I expect both.
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Geezus, almost a full new page in the time I typed that. Never mind catchup, just keeping up with you guys is all I can hope for right now while getting breakfast.
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On March 07 2019 02:17 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2019 02:16 Holyflare wrote:On March 07 2019 02:14 Grackaroni wrote:On March 04 2019 02:49 Holyflare wrote:On March 04 2019 02:31 Mr. Wiggles wrote: HF came up with the idea first, but I'm not sure whether I trust HF more to follow through compared to Palmar, especially if HF starts coming up with more cases. Might be the case that they deviate at the last minute and cause a bunch of chaos. In that sense, I like Palmar for mayor because he's colder. My vote will never be on anyone other than Sentinel as mayor. If he claims a role pm being read then it will be on whoever is the second highest vote, as I've stated. I don't think I'm a "wild cannon" like you purport. More so Palmar will be just doing what he wants and that is far more detrimental when he self reportedly doesn't play weekends and has only really come up with a Sentinel policy lynch and some mediocre writings (although not awful to read, just no drive). lol. Sorry I'll show myself out. Did I or did I not stick to who I wanted to lynch? :D Palmar was also the second highest vote
This is a big part of why it was super shitty for you to off Palmar. So what is your point here?
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On March 07 2019 02:22 rsoultin wrote: @tictock Please clarify for me your MZ/Grack reads since start of game.
I haven't read anything new from them, so not sure what you expect.
Meap jumped at at me initially for being pretty blendy and seemed more like he was posting to look like he was doing things rather than actually trying to do things.
I have seen extremely little of Grack, and I don't get where his head is at at all from what posts I have seen. Since I recall being able to townread him extremely easily in the "Bastard Hosts game" (forget the actual name), where Grack-Darth-I got basically Mason'd for forming a town circle, this Grack feels very off to me. Just get the vibe he is clunky and unsure of how to approach the game, which suggest scum to me.
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On March 07 2019 02:33 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2019 02:24 Tictock wrote: Up for the day and seeing how far I get catchup reading before I get bored.
Reading the most recent few pages I get a strong vibe that Wave is town for how strongly he is pushing HF.
I could also see Vivax being town and doing what he is doing now. Not a very clear read, kinda biased based on my initial vibe from him.
As for HF, well my post about why I would not vote him for mayor still stands. He talks a lot but generally I don't think he has great reads, so yall should feel bad for voting him in because he is always a terrible Mayor. His choice to lynch Palmar was super, SUPER, shitty. Sadly this all boils down to an "Im not sure" conclusion from me though. I could see mafia!Flare taking the opportunity to off Palmar and rely on his ability to talk his way out of shit to dodge the lynch (don't at all buy his excuse of "I wouldn't do this as mafia" shit), I also felt like his recent post of "of the ppl voting me, these are the scum" was pretty shallow (of those I think Bloody is the only clear scummy guy). Yet I could still see this all being town!Flare just being kinda shitty. So I guess I'd say like 60% mafia!Flare for me right now.
Sticking with my not voting till I have read more. I'll try and keep reading the current bit of the thread, so I'll try to respond if people wanna ask me stuff or shout at me. I expect both. Bleaaaarrrgghhh
Bleargh?
Blarg, Blarg! HOOONK!
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On March 07 2019 02:37 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2019 02:35 Tictock wrote:On March 07 2019 02:22 rsoultin wrote: @tictock Please clarify for me your MZ/Grack reads since start of game. I haven't read anything new from them, so not sure what you expect. Meap jumped at at me initially for being pretty blendy and seemed more like he was posting to look like he was doing things rather than actually trying to do things. I have seen extremely little of Grack, and I don't get where his head is at at all from what posts I have seen. Since I recall being able to townread him extremely easily in the "Bastard Hosts game" (forget the actual name), where Grack-Darth-I got basically Mason'd for forming a town circle, this Grack feels very off to me. Just get the vibe he is clunky and unsure of how to approach the game, which suggest scum to me. To be fair you/me/DF all played much differently in that game than this one.
True, which is expected of a 13 vs 35 person game. But still, gotta go with those gut reads man.
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On March 07 2019 02:41 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2019 02:35 Tictock wrote:On March 07 2019 02:22 rsoultin wrote: @tictock Please clarify for me your MZ/Grack reads since start of game. I haven't read anything new from them, so not sure what you expect. Meap jumped at at me initially for being pretty blendy and seemed more like he was posting to look like he was doing things rather than actually trying to do things. I have seen extremely little of Grack, and I don't get where his head is at at all from what posts I have seen. Since I recall being able to townread him extremely easily in the "Bastard Hosts game" (forget the actual name), where Grack-Darth-I got basically Mason'd for forming a town circle, this Grack feels very off to me. Just get the vibe he is clunky and unsure of how to approach the game, which suggest scum to me. Hmm, okay, then I do have an issue with you. Your approach to the game where you just spewed thoughts I was a fan of, and I like some of your comments even though there were several I disagreed with, but Grack you'd barely commented on despite talking about lynching him and it feels like you forgot MZ entirely. Also not a fan of the phrasing that you find Grack's vote on Sent 'interesting'. What does that mean?
I haven't forgotten Meap, just haven't read anything new from him so I don't have anything new to say.
Grack felt like a non-entity D1 so was a reasonable lynch for me, given I have different expectations from him for reasons I just explained. His Sent vote was both against the grain for how I saw votes happening so far today (I only saw flips and checked vote-thread when I first came home last night), my first thought was actually "Old news - Odd vote" but since I am so far behind on reading this game I don't actually know why he was making that vote.
Re: SL making a comment about me being a possible lynch... I would actually be so grateful to have the responsibility of reading this game removed from my shoulders. I am thankful I have learned how to put my own "life" first and sorta not give a shit or else I would be sleepless and tearing my hair out at this game.
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On March 07 2019 02:44 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2019 02:41 rsoultin wrote:On March 07 2019 02:35 Tictock wrote:On March 07 2019 02:22 rsoultin wrote: @tictock Please clarify for me your MZ/Grack reads since start of game. I haven't read anything new from them, so not sure what you expect. Meap jumped at at me initially for being pretty blendy and seemed more like he was posting to look like he was doing things rather than actually trying to do things. I have seen extremely little of Grack, and I don't get where his head is at at all from what posts I have seen. Since I recall being able to townread him extremely easily in the "Bastard Hosts game" (forget the actual name), where Grack-Darth-I got basically Mason'd for forming a town circle, this Grack feels very off to me. Just get the vibe he is clunky and unsure of how to approach the game, which suggest scum to me. Hmm, okay, then I do have an issue with you. Your approach to the game where you just spewed thoughts I was a fan of, and I like some of your comments even though there were several I disagreed with, but Grack you'd barely commented on despite talking about lynching him and it feels like you forgot MZ entirely. Also not a fan of the phrasing that you find Grack's vote on Sent 'interesting'. What does that mean? On the other hand I did like the Wiggles case and will have that up when filtering him so -shrugs-
Whateves, you do your thing. You are pretty much irrevocably Town in my head so...
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On March 07 2019 02:48 Rels wrote: this HF situation is annoying. I think he is town. I'm not as sure as rayn and rsoul seems to be, like HF is a super strong scum and could easily do whatever he's done in this game. BUT, him not shitting up the thread feels weird if he's scum. He has the potential to throw the game into chaos easily, like he did when he got red checked in ... Himalayas probably?, saying he's the best lynch while posting a lot, and he is not doing it.
Now. IF HES SCUM AND HE LIVES AND WINS. He's gonna mock me and whoever townread him forever. I know this is a ridiculous way to handle this situation but that's waht I think.
So the solution: he msut be lynched in LYLO. I won't be there to push it probably, but if he's alive in LYLO, no matter what, lynch him. IF YOURE READING THIS DURING LYLO, LYNCH HF IF HES STILL ALIVE
This is a solid approach imo, and kinda jives with where my head is at with HF.
Rels can have a townie-brownie.
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On March 07 2019 02:56 rsoultin wrote: See for me, if grack isn't playing like you think he should when he was super easy for you to read when you were town together, and then he's placing a vote off on a different wagon than your other scumread HF, my reaction would not be, oh, hm, that's interesting, I need to read before I vote for HF. My reaction would be these two are probably scum together and I'd drop my vote so quick.
I haven't really had a solid reason to think HF is scum, and while Grack felt off to me at the start of the game he was still more "low hanging fruit" than someone I actually read as scum.
I've really not had a solid read on HF at all this game. I haven't seen much that makes me think he is town, and despite his insistence otherwise everything I have seen fits in his scum-range. This is why I gave him a 60% chance of being scum just a little while ago. I am salty about his choice of mayor-lynch but that doesn't solidify his alignment for me.
So, yea I figuered I'd rather read and vote later. I rarely drop votes super quick and fast anyways, even though this gets me some heat sometimes.
Right now, I'd say the ppl I feel are most likely scum are: Meap (though he warrents a re-read since I haven't read anything from him in days), Mr. Wiggels, and Bloddy (his recent reads post felt far more opportune than genuine reads, and I had bad vibes from him earlier).
In other news, I'd wager that Oats and Rels are both town this game. Both are pretty off the cuff gut reads right now though. Ehh, maybe a bit stronger on Oats since I felt like his Entry to the game was much more "towny doing his thing" and seemed counter to a scum-agenda.
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On March 07 2019 02:57 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2019 02:55 Tictock wrote:On March 07 2019 02:48 Rels wrote: this HF situation is annoying. I think he is town. I'm not as sure as rayn and rsoul seems to be, like HF is a super strong scum and could easily do whatever he's done in this game. BUT, him not shitting up the thread feels weird if he's scum. He has the potential to throw the game into chaos easily, like he did when he got red checked in ... Himalayas probably?, saying he's the best lynch while posting a lot, and he is not doing it.
Now. IF HES SCUM AND HE LIVES AND WINS. He's gonna mock me and whoever townread him forever. I know this is a ridiculous way to handle this situation but that's waht I think.
So the solution: he msut be lynched in LYLO. I won't be there to push it probably, but if he's alive in LYLO, no matter what, lynch him. IF YOURE READING THIS DURING LYLO, LYNCH HF IF HES STILL ALIVE This is a solid approach imo, and kinda jives with where my head is at with HF. Rels can have a townie-brownie. Okay let’s take a walkthrough here of the possibilities of Rels alignment 1. Rels is mafia and hf is mafia. HF stays alive for the longest amount of time, good for mafia. 2. Rels is mafia and hf is town. Mafia has like a 100% chance of winning at lylo and Rels gets cred if hf is flipped today anyway. Where are the downsides of Relsmafia! Proposing this plan?
None, but where are your 2 situations where Rels could be town?
I know full well that Rels could be mafia and just being sensible and reasonable here. I can like where his head is at and still have a little sus about him in the back of my head.
A townie-brownie is worse than Brownie-Points... which I have TO THIS DAY never been able to trade in for an actual Brownie... this disillusionment of my childhood will forever haunt me.
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On March 07 2019 03:13 Vivax wrote: Look at the facts wave, he KILLED PALMAR.
If he killed scum, I'd be willing to reconsider, but he killed a guy who not only posted very well and is actually able to make himself heard over HF, but also not scummy at all. On top of it you can be 100 % sure that mafia either piled their vote on HF or anywhere but Palmar.
Humm, this bolded line is actually probably very true regardless of HF's alignment.
@ Vivax, I just have to ask (I don't really mind the tirade though) do you 100% not believe a town!Flare could be bad enough to kill Palmar?
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@HF
I am tempted to ask you why you did kill Palmar, but given I haven't read much of the game it prob souldn't mean much to me.
So instead, and partially kus all I see you doing is defending yourself, who do YOU think we should lynch today and why?
Actually finished chasing the up-to-date point in the game... and it only took 1.5 hours.
Going to move on with my day and do some things for myself. Will be checking in over the day though, and yea, fuck catching up. I just give up at this point, will have to resign to trying to filter ppl later to get a better sense of things.
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On March 07 2019 03:35 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2019 03:29 Tictock wrote:On March 07 2019 03:13 Vivax wrote: Look at the facts wave, he KILLED PALMAR.
If he killed scum, I'd be willing to reconsider, but he killed a guy who not only posted very well and is actually able to make himself heard over HF, but also not scummy at all. On top of it you can be 100 % sure that mafia either piled their vote on HF or anywhere but Palmar. Humm, this bolded line is actually probably very true regardless of HF's alignment. @ Vivax, I just have to ask (I don't really mind the tirade though) do you 100% not believe a town!Flare could be bad enough to kill Palmar? I wasn't lying during N1 when I thought he was town and just enjoying throwing everything into chaos and being able to influence the game to his leisure. So yea, I have entertained the thought. Ultimately though, looking at the big picture with the night kills, three conf townies wanting him dead, HF slowly starting to pile suspicion on me starting N1 and the scum fiesta I popped into today with rayn, mocsta and rsoultin all trying their hardest to deflect from a HF lynch (I know you will perceive it differently cause simply, you weren't experiencing the same context), I dismissed the thought.
Ah I see... all good, carry on...
Though following that line of thought I liked. Who do you think are the likely mafia who voted HF to be Mayor?
I will look into this myself when I come back in a couple hours.
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Sorry, never mind what I said about getting back to this game today.
Work wants me to come in and cover a shift.
Finally got some word about my roommate (hadn't really heard anything since "he is in the hospital, he is ok" from his fam), sounds like he is still suicidal and no clue when he will be released. Which tells me I am stuck in Limbo for a bit in this situation but probably need to break my lease and move out or somehow find a new roommate for a few months. Either way I think I need to take all the hours I can and go into work.
Sorry I have nothing related to the game, I probably should not have signed up with this shit going on.
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##Vote: Blazinghand
Prob wont be able to be around till basically EoD.
Mostly Sheeping, but of the 2? posts from BH I have read I got weird vibes so yea... seems fine. Only concern is that Mr. Wiggles is leading the wagon, but I have no time to look at things myself so, yea.
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Why is there a HF death link but not a Day 3 link? I think I have about a 25 hours before next deadline ya?
Good shit on the Bloody shot. Also more confirmation for me that my D1 reads were pretty good.
Am going to make some time tonight to be around. I think my RL situation is ok for a little while.
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So just having read the first chunk of Day 3 I am surprised nobody is pushing one of Mocsta or Ace.
Pretty sure they are scum buddies.
Sential is probably scum just for the way overblown explanation/defense of his townread on Ace. Or whatever the hell that post was supposed to be.
Wiggles also scum for saying he was reading/catching up and the first thing after he says is "Chez and Onegu were also off wagon D1" in response to LS's vote coloring. Literally provides no other thoughts besides this before saying he's off to watch a movie as well.
Rels would be my first solid townread into the day for having similar reads/thoughts, and he is jumping right in with a Vote on Ace. Glad to see my early brownie wasn't given away in vain. Oh and gut still tells me LS is town, but have no real reasons for it.
Still a good dozen pages or so behind, but these are my general thoughts after an hour of reading.
Chez lynch vaguely feels like a cop-out lynch because he can be hard to read, but I may have just not read enough yet to understand why people are lynching him.
##Vote: Ace
Am either going to finish reading a little later tonight, or tomorrow morning. Should be around a little tomorrow and I think even for deadline.
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On March 10 2019 00:46 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2019 21:35 Onegu wrote: Wait nvm I though Damdred flipped green for some fucking reason.
Yeah he shot marv like 100%
Smh almost wanna town read him for this
I think I can call SL town for finding this dumbtell from Onegu and reacting like this.
I was a bit torn myself by trying-Hard confused as shit Onegu, but SL pointing this out makes me belive Onegu is town here as well.
As for Pandain, I have a hard time seeing that Shot come from scum because HF's flip gives town a decent bit of Info and it's possible he would have been lynchable today given how close he came yesturday (scum will always prefer to get a mis-lynch than just a kill). Also his reasoning on pg 321 is totally legit.
Like all of Acro, TW, and Pandain are effectively confirmed town. Even if you doubt one of these claims there is a huge pool of players to lynch from that 100% contains scum.
Humm, ok so I don't believe either of the Hatter Claims.
On March 10 2019 10:55 Fecalfeast wrote: I am a mad matter
I would lynch this one though. My take was Chez was messing around and FF figured he could just CC due to their being so many claims happening and weird roles. This is kinda just my Gut feeling though, main thing I have to back it up is that Chez never really claimed, he just played to people's expectations from his wording. (I still have no real way of reading Chez)
Anyone know how many Scum to expect in a game like this? I might have too many scum reads atm.
Meap almost gets points for having similar reaction to me about FF, but then pushes Pandain so I have to leave him on my scum pile.
@Rels, not that I am sure about my logic on Chez/FF but what besides the claim would lead you to think FF might be town? I'm pretty sure one of them has to be scum, and there could even be a chance they both are.
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On March 10 2019 17:20 Mocsta wrote: Ticktock
Why am i scum with ace?
Your whole opening position of lynching into Vig claims is just a stupid bad plan for town, I can't believe that would be a town!Mocsta suggestion.
The way you two interacted in thread felt off to me as well, it was far too buddy-buddy with you two practically slapping each others backs and being in very much so the same head-space.
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On March 10 2019 17:46 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 11:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 03 2019 11:34 Palmar wrote:On March 03 2019 11:32 LightningStrike wrote: Sent is policy at best I wont lynch him unless there is no better option honestly. There is literally no better option on day 1 than policy. Those are the best lynches on day 1 because you get rid of trash on a day with no information. Getting rid of trash on a day with no information = no further information besides whether or not said trash was scum or town I'm not reading my PM, pile those votes on Ok. So you literally read your role PM right after this defiant yell in the face of Palmar's mayor run. Why? What changed your mind?
Just kus I didn't mention it, that sudden wall from Sentinal after being pushed hard for "not having read his role" really looked scummy to me (reading it today was the first I've seen it). Kus it's just a shit ton of random thoughts on people without any conclusions and it looked to me like a bunch of "work" he did to make up for getting a bunch of people so mad at him.
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So that puts me at something like...
Scum Ace Mocsta [UoN]Sentinal Mr.Wiggles
Probably Scum FF Meap
Null Chez
Possibly Town Onegu SL
Town Rels LS TW Acro Pandain
If I left your name off this list I have forgotten you are in this game (kus I'm not bothering to check the 1st page right now).
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On March 10 2019 17:52 Acrofales wrote: People who know rels and rsoultin: how good is she at sussing out a scum!Rels?
And would a scum!Rels risk that, knowing he was never getting lynched D2, and was gonna kill rsoultin right after?
Having not read a bit about this role Rels has or whatever that stuff is about, I am fairly confident he is town here.
If Rsoul was willing to give Rels any sort of solid townread without a bunch of caviotes as to how he might be scum, I think you can trust her read. I can't speak to how good Rsoul was at reading Rels, but I know she would not put her paranoia about his scum game behind her easily.
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I should prob do filters at some point. Besides that I will never actually go back and read anything I have missed this game.
That just sounds like a terrible use of my time.
I'd much rather if you could just convince me you are town from this point onward.
Think I'm going to need to call it a night, I knew about daylights but somehow missed the connection that that meant I was gunna loose an hour of sleep (or just that staying up late was a bad idea).
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On March 10 2019 18:39 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2019 18:22 Tictock wrote: I should prob do filters at some point. Besides that I will never actually go back and read anything I have missed this game.
That just sounds like a terrible use of my time.
I'd much rather if you could just convince me you are town from this point onward.
Think I'm going to need to call it a night, I knew about daylights but somehow missed the connection that that meant I was gunna loose an hour of sleep (or just that staying up late was a bad idea). What is this bullshit Ur scum read on me s based on completely false data points I gave u a hall pass and said to read 3 pages. Im ur fucking scum read and u cant be bothered... Total bullshit anf quite scummy
My read on you was based on what I read from the start on Day 3, and maybe a little bit because I don't recall having a read on you at all earlier in the game.
Calling that "based on false data points" is just straight up false.
This reaction to me telling you
I'd much rather if you could just convince me you are town from this point onward. tells me you are not confident you can shine as town and I was likely quite correct to call you scum.
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On March 11 2019 00:16 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2019 00:12 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Quick dive tells me Tictock is still mafia
##Vote: Ace Why are you voting Ace? You literally just wrote an enormous post town reading Ace the other night. If you're going to change reads you have to give people some idea of why you're doing what you're doing.
Also why would Sentinel go from being somewhat confident in calling me Mafia to voting with me on Ace in the same post?
Noting that his vote puts Ace as the Lynch atm as well. Humm...
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On March 11 2019 00:33 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2019 17:51 Tictock wrote:
@Rels, not that I am sure about my logic on Chez/FF but what besides the claim would lead you to think FF might be town? I'm pretty sure one of them has to be scum, and there could even be a chance they both are.
not much, I think he's town purely because of the counterclaim. I don't see why scum fake cc there just to get Chez lynched, when Chez is a no-entity this game
uhhh, maybe?
I'm a bit dubious that there is a Hatter in this game at all, but I suppose that is a bit silly with several other "not-totally vanilla" Vigs in this game. Hatter just seems a bit too themed and potentially too powerful, depending on how the role actually was setup.
Also note FF "claimed" but did not say anything about who he bombed and offered literally no explanation or evidence. He literally just made the claim to CC Chez and thus to push Chez into the noose.
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On March 11 2019 01:02 sicklucker wrote: Oh sent soft claiming cop with a check on ace. Very nice
This makes no sense.
Sent made a post fairly hard defending Ace near the start of Day, and is now voting Ace while calling me Mafia.
No way is he a Cop with any kind of check on Ace.
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I am totally open to a Sent lynch, his last post gave me heebies and a bit of the geebies. Pretty open to lynching anyone I put down as Scum last night.
Personally I'd rather know why you (Acro) suspect Rels rather than hear what Rayn and Rsoul thought about him. Like as much as I had faith in my Rsoul read earlier in the game, or that we know know the 2 of them were Town, does not lead to the conclusion that their reads should have more weight than your own.
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So looking at the last Vote count, I apparently forgot Tubesock, Darth, and Exo are in this game.
If people want to lynch into Question marks, is there any reason why those 3 have not been discussed at all today?
All I recall of Exo was him being a troll early on, I think I recall Darth making some posts (and not being swayed one way or another), and don't remember TS at all.
I'd filter them but have to leave in a few so kinda just surface level doing stuff atm.
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Meh, idk. I have and odd feeling this lynch could be TvT again right now.
Thread is pretty dead and only ~5 hours till deadline (it is a weekend though, so...)
Number of non-voters is a bit dis-concerning.
Sent's post, Calling me Scum but Voting with me on Ace (and effectively hammering him) when I think he is likely Mafia is giving me some pause on Ace.
However I still kinda think Ace could be mafia, and it's possible I am wrong about Sent or he could be scum trying to WIFOM or distance.
Ace's play to me today just felt like he was shifting alot to see where it would be safe to push. None of his stuff felt like he had solid reads or wanted to take real stances.
Can't be arsed to look it up, but he made a post about some kinda reads post getting Mod-Deleted at EoN but the only thing of note he mentioned from it was My Vote on BH being bad, but then he called me likely town anyways.
From my notes: #6208 - Weird how he soft pushes Acro as scum due to role shit, but then goes "So Chez?" at the end
#6261 - Makes up some bizarre shit about a "scum Mason", which I now assume was in reference to Rels.
So I am generally still fine lynching Ace despite feelings atm.
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On March 11 2019 02:06 sicklucker wrote: If theres scum on the kill hf wagon which their should be since lol nks its propably slam. He would probably have scum lead all of these nks and based on whos left would probably be a scum leader. Ill dive him later
Oh yea, I forgot about Slam too...
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##Unvote ##Vote: Sentinel
Jumping in closer to EoD than I'd like, but I like this lynch much better than where we were.
Also realized while digesting thoughts on the game that I was giving Rels a town pass far too easily, and need to dig into things more before I can be in anyway confident with a read on him.
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Also, I'm still like 80% sure that Wiggles and Meap are scum with those off wagon Votes.
Especially considering I don't remember them having anything to say to weigh in on the main wagons.
Which makes this...
On March 10 2019 13:27 Rels wrote:just finished Wiggles filter and I think he's alright. He's been consistent with his activity and reads, he looks like he's having fun with his radio show (please continue it's pretty to read too ) but is not using it to hide behind RP to not play. Not the strongest read but I think he's town. If anyone thinks he's scum I would like to know why
One of the biggest issues I have with Rels atm.
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Anyone else around to rock the boat on today's snooze fest Chez v Ace lynch and wanna join this Sential train for Town Glory?
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Can we deal with Role stuff after deadline?
I'd rather we try and focus on lynching mafia atm.
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On March 11 2019 06:51 Tumblewood wrote: i havr several conflicting impulses regarding chez and FF: one is that i don't know why chez would claim hatter as mafia because it is way outta left field. potentially if there is a rolecop he found out and knew he could start a claim war but why would he start a war that he probably wouldn't win? the second is that mafia could definitely capitalize on this weird semi-claim war and make the thread a total shitshow all day if chez and FF are town, but everyone seems to be ignoring it. if FF is scum it would be reasonable perhaps to push it but only sorta (esp. with FF saying "i could believe there are two" perhaps preserving himself if chez flips town) third, i think FF is town from his filter, and his claim is plausible (besides him describing it as a "yolo claim" in the first claim post, which feels a little off) in conclusion idk
Hence why I say, Table it for now and deal with it tomorrow?
I am like 99% sure Mafia want Chez v Ace to be happening right now.
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I feel like people are forgetting that DST happened and this lynch is over in 5 min...
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On March 11 2019 06:55 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2019 06:53 Tictock wrote:On March 11 2019 06:51 Tumblewood wrote: i havr several conflicting impulses regarding chez and FF: one is that i don't know why chez would claim hatter as mafia because it is way outta left field. potentially if there is a rolecop he found out and knew he could start a claim war but why would he start a war that he probably wouldn't win? the second is that mafia could definitely capitalize on this weird semi-claim war and make the thread a total shitshow all day if chez and FF are town, but everyone seems to be ignoring it. if FF is scum it would be reasonable perhaps to push it but only sorta (esp. with FF saying "i could believe there are two" perhaps preserving himself if chez flips town) third, i think FF is town from his filter, and his claim is plausible (besides him describing it as a "yolo claim" in the first claim post, which feels a little off) in conclusion idk Hence why I say, Table it for now and deal with it tomorrow? I am like 99% sure Mafia want Chez v Ace to be happening right now. why 99%? What?
Chez just feels like a scape-goat lynch to me, and a lot of people were settling on him even before the role stuff happened.
I mean he's a solid lynch just for info, I just am going by my instincts atm.
I just think this lynch has the same feeling as D1 and D2 which were also both TvT. I'm reffering to how there have been 2 people up for lynch all day with no real alternatives being pursued.
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On March 11 2019 07:00 Dandel Ion wrote: Reminder that the lynch is in an hour from this post due to daylight savings.
This is not the time that your last Vote count suggested, but ok. I am just confused.
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On March 11 2019 06:58 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2019 06:42 Tictock wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: Sentinel
Jumping in closer to EoD than I'd like, but I like this lynch much better than where we were.
Also realized while digesting thoughts on the game that I was giving Rels a town pass far too easily, and need to dig into things more before I can be in anyway confident with a read on him. Right... your voting the wagon that has BOTH of your other scum reads on it Ace + Mocsta fuck me. how are you meant to read you when you do this bullshit?
I suggest taking deep breaths.
Really it has just continued to bug me that Sent would call me scum, then vote with me on Ace. This mixed with my general feelings about the stagnant lynch...
I am adjusting my reads on the fly.
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On March 11 2019 07:05 Tumblewood wrote: does anyone wanna lynch slam? it's just feeling right. no one has pushed him at all this game despite not being townread very much either
Seems like a poor time to start considering it tbh, but can't say I have much feelings against it.
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On March 11 2019 07:07 Pandain wrote: I'm down with lynching Slam but I think Sentinel is worse for the reasons I posted earlier. I don't think others are there quite yet.
Sent lynch will overall give us more info in the case he flips scum. Some good associative reads can probably be built.
Slam would be removing a question mark.
I'd keep my vote on Sent every time.
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On March 11 2019 07:12 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2019 06:43 Tictock wrote:Also, I'm still like 80% sure that Wiggles and Meap are scum with those off wagon Votes. Especially considering I don't remember them having anything to say to weigh in on the main wagons. Which makes this... On March 10 2019 13:27 Rels wrote:just finished Wiggles filter and I think he's alright. He's been consistent with his activity and reads, he looks like he's having fun with his radio show (please continue it's pretty to read too ) but is not using it to hide behind RP to not play. Not the strongest read but I think he's town. If anyone thinks he's scum I would like to know why One of the biggest issues I have with Rels atm. Do you disagree with my read? That siad, Wiggles keeping his vote offwagon until deadline would definitely alter my view of him
I've been calling Wiggles scum all game dude.
I am super sure of it, and your weak ass town-read of him here doesn't sway me at all.
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On March 11 2019 07:13 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2019 07:09 Tictock wrote:On March 11 2019 07:07 Pandain wrote: I'm down with lynching Slam but I think Sentinel is worse for the reasons I posted earlier. I don't think others are there quite yet. Sent lynch will overall give us more info in the case he flips scum. Some good associative reads can probably be built. Slam would be removing a question mark. I'd keep my vote on Sent every time. what do you think you will learn if sent flips town/mafia?
Probably not much if he flips town, but I think it would at least clear Ace if he flips Mafia.
Possibly more if I ever read through his filter.
Basically, a lot more than I would learn from a Slam lynch.
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Shit I gotta go deal with something, and am prob gunna miss deadline.
I'd really like to see a Sent flip here, but if Chez gets lynched I am ok with it. Especially kus it should clear up the FF cc situation.
Right now I think Ace flips town here.
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Boom!
Ty for giving me the lynch I asked for town!
Time for a bit of tinfoil before I read what I missed: This probably means Rel's role shit would be mafia related as it is the most likely way that Mafia would recruit a traitor.
However I don't really think role related reads work very well and I kinda now heavily suspect Rels due to some other stuff (such as calling Chez v Ace as Scum v Scum, when I noted the EoD felt dead and possibly meant TvT).
Actually it's probably dinner time for me and then will come back to this game tonight. Need to think as well because Sent being a traitor could mean he didn't know anything about the full mafia team, which makes my earlier conclusion of him flipping scum clearing Ace possibly moot.
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I'm back to the Catch-up Post!
Have fun.
On March 11 2019 08:37 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2019 08:35 Tictock wrote: Boom!
Ty for giving me the lynch I asked for town!
Time for a bit of tinfoil before I read what I missed: This probably means Rel's role shit would be mafia related as it is the most likely way that Mafia would recruit a traitor.
However I don't really think role related reads work very well and I kinda now heavily suspect Rels due to some other stuff (such as calling Chez v Ace as Scum v Scum, when I noted the EoD felt dead and possibly meant TvT).
Actually it's probably dinner time for me and then will come back to this game tonight. Need to think as well because Sent being a traitor could mean he didn't know anything about the full mafia team, which makes my earlier conclusion of him flipping scum clearing Ace possibly moot. What do you mean by the bolded part...
Random assumptions about Traitor role that are probably bad, is what I was thinking. Last time I played with a Mafia Traitor they needed to reach out to the Scum Team to be joined with them, but now I'm pretty sure that was in the Bastard Mod game or w/e it was called.
On March 11 2019 08:43 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2019 08:35 Tictock wrote: Boom!
Ty for giving me the lynch I asked for town!
Time for a bit of tinfoil before I read what I missed: This probably means Rel's role shit would be mafia related as it is the most likely way that Mafia would recruit a traitor.
However I don't really think role related reads work very well and I kinda now heavily suspect Rels due to some other stuff (such as calling Chez v Ace as Scum v Scum, when I noted the EoD felt dead and possibly meant TvT).
Actually it's probably dinner time for me and then will come back to this game tonight. Need to think as well because Sent being a traitor could mean he didn't know anything about the full mafia team, which makes my earlier conclusion of him flipping scum clearing Ace possibly moot. This seems plausible. If Rels picks a townie, it's a new qt. If Rels picks the traitor, he gets access to the mafia qt. He picked tina N1 cause idk, and apparently rayn N2 maybe because of this post. Show nested quote +On March 08 2019 04:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 08 2019 04:09 Acrofales wrote:On March 08 2019 04:08 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2019 04:01 Tubesock wrote:On March 08 2019 03:45 Acrofales wrote:On March 04 2019 23:45 Tubesock wrote:On March 04 2019 23:30 Palmar wrote: go after mocsta -> threatens to kill himself go after conversion -> leaves the game
I may have a problem. You’re not the problem. Neither is HF. ? If Palmar wasn't a problem then why was your vote to have him killed at this point? I actually dived into your filter to find where you strong townread HF... and I don't see it at all. You made up your mind HF was town at the start of the game based on... nothing? And your comment after nightfall was about me, not about HF at all. In fact, it's the post that is continuously quoted here that has the whole ramble about how wonderful it would have been if HF had killed scum!Palmar. Why are you townreading HF? It started with agreement on a semi long stream of posts. And other small things that he did that I doubt mafia HF would bother with. While I certainly will semi ignore someone I town from time to time, HF’s townread can disappear quite fast. I’m always watching what he does. I’ve been called contrarian many times. But I truly believe that him sticking to what he said he’d do (shoot Palmar) is far more likely to come from town HF. I do think MafiaHF would have never pushed Palmar and instead gone after one of the other prominent towns and killed them instead. Rayn he could have killed at the time as most were lukewarm on him at the time. Or whoever. Lol if he killed rayn he 100% dies today Not if rayn is scum. But that'd be an amazing bus. i am super scum though.
In a Scum!Rels world, these picks make sense. Far more important for Rels to prove to good townies that he is town. Honestly I threw out that tinfoil, but I'm kinda ignoring Rels' role in regards to reading him as it is pure WIFOM.
On March 11 2019 08:48 Onegu wrote: day vig can be red/blue While true, the amount of paranoia and kinda odd attitude Onegu is showing here makes me question the townpass I gave him based on SL's dumbtell. Especially since they kinda have been sharing the same attitude towards EoD and post flip. Also again, Role speculation is unlikely to be helpful and Night Kills will likely be more telling than any speculation we can do right now.
On March 11 2019 09:34 LightningStrike wrote: Is it bad that if we got another vig I want them to shoot Ace just see this last wagon? Actually Ace's flip would still be pretty telling... so No. I will get to this in a sec.
#6992 This post was 100% written out before EoD, but Ace is sharing it now as current info. I haven't actually read the post yet, but this automatically feels a bit scummy to me.
+ Show Spoiler +How do I know? He didn't add Sentinal, but included BC. Which seems an odd thing to forgot for a town writing out a post and then editing it for post flip, but forgets that flip.
Ok so my thoughts about Traitor role, and then I am done talking about Roles. + Show Spoiler [Bonus Tinfoil] +Sent's opening could have been him trying to project his role to mafia I think we need to assume the Traitor role is unknown to Mafia, just as he does not know who is mafia. It would be kinda nice to get Mod confirmation about this, but it seems to me we kinda need to assume that.
So, officially ignoring Role shit, and not giving any town passes just off that flip. We can deal with Role stuff tomorrow.
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On March 11 2019 08:50 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2019 08:49 Grackaroni wrote:On March 11 2019 08:48 Alakaslam wrote: What did Chezinu claim? MaD HaTTeR Fitting I guess Ok. Well I’ll just believe that claim then
Just making sure you know FF counterclaimed.
On March 10 2019 10:54 Fecalfeast wrote: I'm also a mad hatter yolo claim fight me
On March 11 2019 06:39 Fecalfeast wrote:It's only one person per night and I get the bomb back if i don't die so it's irrelevant but ok N1 i put it on HF N2 I put it on onegu but changed it closer to deadline to ace
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On March 11 2019 08:46 Mocsta wrote:Dead Scum = Red Dead Town = Green Alive with claim = Blue (My only edit was changing Day2 AMG vote to "Pandain")
Show nested quote +Day One final Vote Count
Mayor Holyflare (16): Tubesock, Holyflare, rsoultin, Ace, Mr. Wiggles, Jockmcplop, Mocsta, [UoN]Sentinel, Pandain, sicklucker, raynpelikoneet, Fecalfeast, ediamperfection, Damdred, ExO_, Trfel Palmar (12): Palmar, Ticktock, Meapak_Zipphh, WaveofShadow, Grackaroni, Conversion, Alakaslam, LightningStrike, Vivax, BloodyC0bbler, Acrofales, Blazinghand iamperfection (4): darthfoley, Tumblewood, Koshi, Oatsmaster Chezinu (1):Chezinu Onegu (1): Onegu rsoultin (1): Rels Not Voting (0):
Lynch Trfel (11): Tubesock, sicklucker, [UoN]Sentinel, Koshi, Mr. Wiggles, Tumblewood,Fecalfeast, Jockmcplop, Acrofales, Vivax, Conversion Blazinghand (10): Holyflare, Grackaroni, iamperfection, Oatsmaster, WaveOfShadow, raynpelikoneet, Trfel, rsoultin, ExO_, LightningStrike Conversion (3): Mocsta, Alakaslam, darthfoley Acrofales (2): Damdred, Tictock iamperfection (2): BloodyC0bbler, Blazinghand Koshi (1): Ace Fecalfeast (1): Pandain Grackaroni (1): Meapak_Ziphh LightningStrike (1): Rels [UoN]Sentinel (1): Chezinu rsoultin (1): Onegu Mr. Wiggles (1): Palmar
Show nested quote +Day Two final Vote Count
Blazinghand (13): Mr. Wiggles, Rels, Holyflare, [UoN]Sentinel, rsoultin, Pandain, Mocsta, LightningStrike, WaveofShadow, Tictock, Tubesock, ExO_, Tumblewood Holyflare (9): Blazinghand, sicklucker, BloodyC0bbler, Alakaslam, Oatsmaster, Ace, darthfoley, Acrofales, Vivax Acrofales (2): raynpelikoneet, Fecalfeast Ace (1): Jockmcplop rsoultin (1): Onegu [UoN]Sentinel (1): Grackaroni, Mr. Wiggles (1): Meapak_Ziphh Not voting (2): Damdred, Chezinu
Show nested quote +Day Three final Vote Count
[UoN]Sentinel (10): Pandain, Grackaroni, Mocsta, Ace, Ticktock, Acrofales, LightningStrike, Mr. Wiggles, Tumblewood, Meapak_Ziphh Ace (7): Oatsmaster, Rels, Jockmcplop, Chezinu, [UoN]Sentinel, darthfoley, Vivax Chezinu (4): Alakaslam, Fecalfeast, Onegu, sicklucker Not voting (2): ExO_, Tubesock
Humm, I noted this post to use to look at votes.
But then I'm noticing that Mocsta colored FF blue, but left Chez black....
Honestly I think my reads haven't changed that much from my last list post if I am correct that Mafia and Traitor are both unaware. Expect I am a bit more sus of Onegu and SL...
Mocsta and Ace still just feel like scum buddies for reasons I'm not sure I can explain. They just seem to be taking the exact same approach and and spending a lot of effort calling claims into question.
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Ok, I guess you did color Chez blue once.
But you DID color FF blue in every count...
And calling me a Moron for noticing things, that's cold-hearted Yo.
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On March 11 2019 12:36 Mocsta wrote:Tictock, since you are here, can you please comment as well. its on previous page. Show nested quote +On March 11 2019 12:17 Mocsta wrote:On March 11 2019 12:11 LightningStrike wrote: I'll be honest I am extremely happy about Sent's flip being scum since it give us more breathing room. Hopefully we find our 2nd scum. Can you my thoughts on BC filter on this page pls Agree/Disagree/neutral?
Nothing you said impressed me nor made any impact.
I did think it was interesting you filtered Oats first then BC, but meh. Pretty much a bunch of disjointed WIFOM you posted imo.
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On March 11 2019 12:38 Ace wrote:Ticktock be careful driving that WIFOM wagon
I'm not much of a Drinker Actually, so wifom is something I try not to engage in.
I do however, REALLY enjoy Tin Foil!
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I think Meap or Wiggles would be fantastic follow up lynches tomorrow. For sure one if not both of them are mafia.
I think lynching into role claims from D3 is always a bad move when there are plenty of better lynches decent pool of players to pick from outside of those.
I thought about doing some filters, but think I ran out of gumption, and would rather see where we are at D4.
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On March 11 2019 13:58 Mocsta wrote: Deadzone wiggles.
I would contest its a scum-favoured role. Even if the entire scum team did not vote *OR* posted less than 5 times. There would probably be a higher total of townies that are also eligible.
Thats the beauty, it sounds so good at face value. If it was this great, TL would have implemented the role as a deterrent yonks ago.
Anyhow, if you wouldnt use it to influence your read, where do you currently stand on acro?
I disagree with this.
An anti lurker Vig is fairly Townsided in a game this large (free flip = saves a mislynch, more info, removal of question marks).
I've also explained several times why I feel like it is wasted effort to lynch into claims right now.
You just mad I'm calling you scum or do you have to be an ass to me?
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On March 18 2019 00:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: pandain - adam - pandain was disgusting, really, just modkill if one doesnt want to play kita...
I kinda agree with this.
Especially as someone who had stuff going on, and in the end probably spent ~5 hours actually playing/reading.
On March 18 2019 00:45 Mr. Wiggles wrote:On the other hand the high page count put a ton of townies off playing or even reading the game. Maybe people should stop spamming
I actually had quite a bit of fun playing with the idea that I would never really go back and read and instead just focus on how people were playing and interacting in smaller portions. My Scum-reads were not amazing and I often focused the wrong people, but I think I was able to identify enough Town and had a fair few scum in my sights.
Overall was nice to try and play again, but I think time investment vs the return is no longer there for me in Mafia. People did a good job keeping the atmosphere pretty tolerable as well (well ok, maybe I shouldn't say that when I read like 5% of the last 450 pages).
I do think 35 players is pushing what I find an enjoyable mafia experience, so easy to forget people in that mass. Hosts did a good job balancing roles for the game size, but might have been better to be clearer about how the setup might have been changed from OP.
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On March 18 2019 01:40 Mr. Wiggles wrote:All vigis next game
This was a fun game.
Holy shit I've been playing games here for 4 years?!?
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On March 03 2019 03:06 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 19:54 rsoultin wrote: Also, even though I'm using the mayor slot to demonstrate where my townreads are, it's pretty irrelevant. Regardless of who we pick they should just be held accountable for lynching who town wants to lynch -shrugs-
Or are you suggesting rayn that we just leave that to the mayor and not simply use it as a second lynch mechanic? 100% agree with this. Going off this logic Rsoul would be my vote for Mayor. Also, just enjoying this interaction between Rayn and Rsoul. + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 20:33 Holyflare wrote: If anyone cares my reads align with rsoul. I think. Chez suspicious. Guy posting catch ups was it trfel? Seemed mediocre and not any revelations. Iamp piggybacking me suspicious. Don't care if I like what he's said about people non-posting. That's easy to do.
Didn't like rayn that much tbh. He seems to not be saying much but talking in walls of text and circles.
I dunno I'm sorry I'm a bit shit right now but whatever. Pretty sure that's me, and I don't give a shit kus you always seem to hate the way I interact with the game. I also strongly disagree about Rayn, I see him pushing his own thoughts and thinking and explaining why, nothing circular at all. HF seems to be posting to post and I don't like it, but it's not really a scum read right now. It's just him coasting. + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 20:35 rsoultin wrote: Like for me it breaks down like this:
You've got trolling people. You've got lurking people. You've got lazy people. You've got some overly aggressives that aren't giving me warm fuzzies (MP). You've got people I'm not sure about who when I'm not sure about them have a nasty habit of being scum (Rayn) but because he's burned me so often I'm not sure if that's not where the uncertainty's coming from.
And then you have seemingly excited to play, I respect the shit out of his intelligence Chez playing but not saying anything interesting. That first group can hide a lot of bad town play. But doing something without doing anything ticks off my scum meter to a higher degree. Rsoul is starting to convince me... Idk. I don't particularly want to lynch Chez myself but I get where her read is coming from, and I am not opposed to a Chez lynch. #540Bloody's entry doesn't jive well with me, but mostly due to their reads being pretty opposite to my own. I can sorta see the logic in Bloody's reads, but it's very much in a scum-range of what to post to enter the game. Gut read leans scum, but I think deserves more to be on my watch list.
Speaking of my Watch List, I think it's something like this right now: Meap Grack Jock Mr. Wiggles Acro Bloddy HF (just not comfortable with him just floating around the game making no impact, yet being relatively present) Rels is also close to being on this list for "playing" but only making a "Hi" post then laughing at something rayn did. He only escapes this list because I know he has actively avoided playing D1 as town in recent games. It's the fact that he tried to play a little but didn't actually that almost has him on it.
Finally got around to looking at my D1 reads for self gratification.
Called out most of the Mafia team in this post, FeelsGoodMan
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