End of the World Party Mafia

On February 24 2019 10:34 Tictock wrote:
Humm... Spirit of the last big Hurrah makes me want to /in

But...

My mental state has really only gotten worse since the last time I played so I would likely either remain pretty aloof or just be a detriment to whatever side I end up on.

Yea, assuming I remember this whenever it starts I should prob just obs.

I will totally cave to peer pressure and play though... assuming nobody has issues with me, which I'd totally understand after how I acted last game.

On February 27 2019 20:50 Vivax wrote:
Being a half-blood italian-austrian I'll tell you that I literally dislike most Austrians in interpersonal relationships. I don't know if it's the language which is notoriously rigid but when I'd have to rank people by capacity of socializing and just generally having a good time, the US would rank top (the openness of peeps in the southwest left me baffled), followed by Italy (without being able to estimate other cultures, Spain is probably cool too). Austria would rank somewhere at the bottom along with North Korea.

It seems to me that socializing in Austria either comes down to doing sports together, or hammering yourself with alcohol and cigarettes on weekends. Good luck inviting people to dinner around here (it mostly seems inappropriate unless you're related or really close friends), but in Italy it's like the most common thing in the world, just like simply hanging out.

That said, I'd rather live among chaotic, lazy and sometimes ill-tempered, but friendly peeps than super-efficient hobby-alcoholic bores. If you find political correctness you can keep it.

On February 28 2019 12:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:

No. Talisker.

On March 01 2019 07:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

And not even saying hi? wew

On March 02 2019 10:06 Trfel wrote:
Can't you just check the QT?

Also, to unvote in the mayor election you unmayor someone? That sounds pretty crazy xD And before anyone asks the inevitable question, there are seven mafia in the game, so we don't have to argue about it, cool?

On March 02 2019 10:17 LightningStrike wrote:

He already claimed mafia though didn't you read the opening of the game?

On March 02 2019 10:20 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

Sheeeeiiiit this is more quality analysis I can get behind

Is lightingstrike scum too HF?

On February 18 2019 06:38 calgar wrote:
+

On March 02 2019 10:29 kitaman27 wrote:


He had to drop out.

Trust me, if I abandoned somebody it would be Koshi.

On March 02 2019 10:31 Chezinu wrote:


Holyflare,

Great detective work! I would love to have you on my team as lead investigator! I will be sure that the corporate office hear of this amazing discovery!


Best,

Chezinu Isunizehc

On March 02 2019 10:40 Conversion wrote:
I'm mafia with Damdred, Chezinu, Blazinghand, iamperfection, ExO_, and Vivax

good last game guys GG wp

On March 02 2019 10:45 Tumblewood wrote:

nuh uh this is

On March 02 2019 19:34 rsoultin wrote:
also there's entirely too little damdy in this game :/ and he's still on my bad list with HF for coming to Amsterdam without a word to me or lex

baaaaad list

On March 03 2019 01:33 Tictock wrote:
#484
Well, to be fair my Chez read changes with about every other post from him. I would appreciate insight as I have only played a few games with him. The most noteworthy thing to me is that he is being clear as day with his posts and not at all cryptic and confusing. I was kinda giving that a pass and going more off the "having fun" factor as styles can change, and I know firsthand that trying to keep up a persona is taxing.

+ Show Spoiler +
Ok. I LoL'd. But again, plz... stop...

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Not much to add about this page (25 if anyone cares).

Exo is apparently the guy I thought. Kinda a shitter, does really off the wall shit "for reactions" but basically just calls anyone who reacts to him mafia. Decent chance he is town, but overall detrimental to the game. My recommendation: Vig or Ignore.

On March 03 2019 01:37 iamperfection wrote:

you think hes town why

On March 02 2019 20:33 Holyflare wrote:
If anyone cares my reads align with rsoul. I think. Chez suspicious. Guy posting catch ups was it trfel? Seemed mediocre and not any revelations. Iamp piggybacking me suspicious. Don't care if I like what he's said about people non-posting. That's easy to do.

Didn't like rayn that much tbh. He seems to not be saying much but talking in walls of text and circles.

I dunno I'm sorry I'm a bit shit right now but whatever.

On March 03 2019 01:42 iamperfection wrote:

having bad logic makes ticktoc scum ?

On March 03 2019 02:28 Alakaslam wrote:

Whoa nelly homboii

I do that all the time, it can be hard to see stuff on a phone.

On March 03 2019 03:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
Conversion probs town
Felt like mini wagon buillding early and those are bad
Also much attention getting

On March 03 2019 04:54 LightningStrike wrote:

A good ploicy lynch yes but would rather lynch a for certain scum though over policy lynching someone.

On March 03 2019 06:01 Mr. Wiggles wrote:

Yeah, I'd like to see some sort of contribution from you. What makes you want to support HF for mayor? Is it a scumread on Sentinel or some kind of policy lynch? You don't make that clear.

I'm cool lynching scummy people just trying to coast by on the first day without needing to stick their necks out too much. That's people like you so far, and Conversion who's re-hashing the same argument with MZ instead of moving to anything else. Guys like Acrofales and and Sent fall into this bucket for me right now too.

I'm not super thrilled with any of the mayoral candidates so far. I like HF the most from the people who've thrown their hat in since some of our reads jive. Disagree with him about Chez, his play seems par for the course from what I remember.

On March 03 2019 06:17 Grackaroni wrote:
THIS IS A GRACKARONI ANNOUNCEMENT

The scum read of Grackaroni will be revealed at precisely 11:11 PM EST.

Please stay tuned for further Grackaroni announcements.

On March 03 2019 06:21 Oatsmaster wrote:

only hf can assume theres one mafia team in a game with 30 players

On March 03 2019 06:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
mocsta posted one post and peaced ~~ possibly town,

iamp is putting in way too much effort to be town

tictock is reaching real far for their reads

Acro actually is a lawyer and lawyers should be lynched cause they are bad men

HF too serious to be town

Ace actually posted the worst idea ive ever seen what was that nonsense

On March 03 2019 06:44 sicklucker wrote:
People i wouldnt lynch yet.
Sent claimed for some readon
Slam
Ryan
Hf
Ls
Rstoulin
Tube maybe

On March 03 2019 06:50 Trfel wrote:
@sicklucker What?

@Vivax: Sure, go for it.

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Also it's easier to just vote for Oatsmaster than look at his meta so I'll just be doing that.

On March 03 2019 06:49 rsoultin wrote:


I mean yeah, it struck me as dead wrong when he said it, too. And you latching onto this makes me even happier about my townread on you, but what makes him scum rather than bad?

What I personally find more curious is he was quoting the voting thread but then his reads didn't seem to have anything to do with people voting?

On March 03 2019 07:10 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

These are... not great reasons lol.

I also don't like iamp but more because of his useless posting.
Acro and HF are town for me.
I wanted to hear more about your conversion read but after seeing this post I'm not so sure I want to be disappointed again.

On March 03 2019 07:28 Oatsmaster wrote:

quote the non serious posts hf go on

https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/542541-end-of-the-world-party-mafia?user=Holyflare

On March 03 2019 07:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
conversion is nothing, mistakes were made

On March 03 2019 07:46 Oatsmaster wrote:



oh wait i thought you said your filter was not serious at all hmmmmmmmmm

On March 03 2019 08:22 Holyflare wrote:


It's your read that I'm too serious but over 50% of my filter at that point was not serious. Those posts you've quoted are also just reads. In what previous game of mine have I not given reads and instead have just done this amazing nothingness and fun you're trying to portray me as doing as town?

On March 03 2019 08:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
Also hf, so either you are town and you play serious so my read is wrong.

Or you are town and you dont play serious so my read is right in the sense that if you were serious you are mafia. But just that my judgement of your posts is wrong.

It cant be both at the same time like you are trying to portray it here.



So the green part is that you are saying that you arent playing seriously this game in your opinion.

The bolded green part is that you are saying that you do play serious as town.

SOOOOOO ARE YOU TOWN THIS GAME HF??

On March 03 2019 13:24 Tictock wrote:


Yea the more I think about it, lets do this.

##Elect: Palmar

I think having everyone lynch Sent would be a bit of a waste of Day 1 voting as he is kinda a coinflip (and we might get better information via a different lynch and resulting voting patterns), but am totally down with the Mayor killing him.

On March 03 2019 13:47 Tictock wrote:
Ok, I came, I saw, I did some things. Seems like ppl are not around so gunna do other things. May check in once more before bed but I am pretty sure I am not going to fully read the stuff I missed.

I'd like someone who is wanting to lynch oats to convince me why he is scum.

Similarly as to why ppl are voting HF for mayor.

If deadline was right now/soon I would push for Meap or Grack to lynch.

On March 02 2019 11:28 Holyflare wrote:
Jesus christ what a boring couple of pages you guys came up with. Just circles.

On March 02 2019 20:33 Holyflare wrote:
If anyone cares my reads align with rsoul. I think. Chez suspicious. Guy posting catch ups was it trfel? Seemed mediocre and not any revelations. Iamp piggybacking me suspicious. Don't care if I like what he's said about people non-posting. That's easy to do.

Didn't like rayn that much tbh. He seems to not be saying much but talking in walls of text and circles.

I dunno I'm sorry I'm a bit shit right now but whatever.

On March 03 2019 04:20 Holyflare wrote:
Don't really get any of the rayn town reads. He's a complete non entity.

On March 03 2019 18:30 Tubesock wrote:




Not really a case but you did scumread him.

On March 03 2019 18:47 Tubesock wrote:


Ok.

If Oats didn’t hilariously get your filter incorrect, or at least say all your posts were serious, would you think he’s any different than his normal grouchy mcgroucherson town self? To me his entrance where every single person in the game is scum is normal town for him. Last I saw him as scum (years ago I know) he threw out maybe 4 scumreads and was a little less abrasive. Much less wave making than this game.

On March 03 2019 19:11 Holyflare wrote:
I don't care that any of you have some amazing read on LS by the way. I don't think he looks towny. He just reappears to not really say anything or give a scum read and keeps essentially defending Sentinel.

On March 03 2019 19:12 Holyflare wrote:


I can understand the honesty read about the masons but that also works if he's mafia.

On March 03 2019 19:14 rsoultin wrote:


-shrugs- He's not scum so...don't care?

On March 03 2019 19:12 Tubesock wrote:


You’re right he spends most his time in you. But that’s because someone asks him, he explained a couple other reads. Much of his scumreads are try hards.

Looks like Sentinel is winning the vote, if he’s lynch would you kill Oats?

@sentinel & Palmar voters, isn’t voting for both of them redundant?

On March 03 2019 19:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
For the record i went to read my filter and i have absolutely never ever in this game talked in circles.

First of all if by talking circles he means me explining same thing in different ways then yes o fucking do that because noone ever understands my reads. Normally i explain the same thing maybe 4 or 5 times as town so go figure of its a legit accusation of me being mafia

On March 03 2019 19:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
fucking seriously?

On March 02 2019 11:28 Holyflare wrote:
Jesus christ what a boring couple of pages you guys came up with. Just circles.

On March 03 2019 19:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Ah so now it's more people than me and THAT'S why you didn't like ME. I see.
Very good read A+

On March 03 2019 19:49 Holyflare wrote:
Rayn can you remember the last game you were mafia and I was town?

On March 03 2019 23:14 LightningStrike wrote:
I just woke up and I saw HF and Rayn were having a fight over what Rayn said was a case of HF lying about his read on Rayn o.o Dunno how to feel I think it was a clash of egos over anything else. Rels didn't post anything over night which made me very sad Hoping Rels post today or tomorrow before EoD so I can get a proper read on him and same with Damdred.
@Tina what you think of the fight from Rayn and HF?

On March 03 2019 23:23 LightningStrike wrote:
Going to put a place holder vote on myself and voting Palmar for mayor since I think it's the best option.

On March 04 2019 00:06 LightningStrike wrote:

He's the best option for mayor because he willing to get rid of a question mark in Sent who I think is just a policy lynch. Dunno about your alignment you're too good I was hoping you and Tina would try to talk to each other.

On March 03 2019 04:54 LightningStrike wrote:

A good ploicy lynch yes but would rather lynch a for certain scum though over policy lynching someone.

On March 04 2019 00:10 Vivax wrote:
HF are you jealous of Palmar or something. Let him be the mayor, you should know yourself enough to know that you act upon the weirdest impulses at EoDs.

On March 04 2019 00:09 LightningStrike wrote:

Because Palmar had more people and I generally can't read you at all.

On March 04 2019 00:41 Tictock wrote:


Clearly from my posts, and from me not reading, I did not know what your platform as mayor was.

But to be honest, at this point I just hate you. You berate how I read and catch up, you berate me when I don’t do that. I will just be ignoring you for the rest of the game because I will likely only get angry and possibly tilt if I have to deal with you.

Part of me wants to call you scum because you played with me in the last game where you know this had an effect on me, but here you are doing the exact thing again. Seems like you just don’t want to try and play nice and would rather ruffle my feathers. I choose not to put up with your shit.

On March 04 2019 00:55 rsoultin wrote:
The whole thing where LS's only 'scumread' out of 34 other people is MZ, and then he wants to kill Koshi screams to me of a Koshi that rolled scum and told his buddies to just lynch him.

If LS flips scum, MZ probably is scum, too, so that's three right there.

On March 04 2019 01:09 Alakaslam wrote:

If you think mafia is involved in Palmar’s actions, then why have your own not changed? Why are you ok with pushing an agenda mafia is also ok putting forth?

On March 04 2019 02:31 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
HF came up with the idea first, but I'm not sure whether I trust HF more to follow through compared to Palmar, especially if HF starts coming up with more cases. Might be the case that they deviate at the last minute and cause a bunch of chaos. In that sense, I like Palmar for mayor because he's colder.

The following players had a win percentage of over .500 since the last update (min 5 games). Nice job.

ritoky 6/6 = 100.0000%
Rels 9/13 = 69.2308%
Tumblewood 6/10 = 60.0000%
Calix 3/5 = 60.0000%
Holyflare 13/22 = 59.0909%
raynpelikoneet 8/15 = 53.3333%
Koshi 9/17 = 52.9412%

On March 04 2019 03:28 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways Koshi would of posted by now if he's town I don't think he would genuinely just afk out like this as town we know he likes being town more than scum. I know it normally goes againist my no lurker lynching policy but I using some meta on Koshi would of posted by now as town as scum he doesn't really post at all.

On March 04 2019 05:33 Grackaroni wrote:
I think we should lynch Tubesock for this post:


I think he asked this question to make Acro seem scummy for pushing low-content posters, and that conflicts with the way that Tubesock has been playing the game so far.





If Tubesock is town I don't see why he should be questioning Acro's lynch choices considering his own so far.

On March 04 2019 05:43 Pandain wrote:
Strongest read is that Ace is definitely town. What an absolutely terrible plan of his. He has to know it's bad and is trying to fish for something, and I think it's way too bad for a mafia to post (they would be self conscious about it).

On March 04 2019 06:17 Acrofales wrote:
I'm here and caught up. There's a few posts in specific that I want to respond to, but in general:

1. Iamp is an idiot. He makes a case on me every game and it's always really bad. I will respond in more detail when I get to it, but his whole case is dumb. For starters, neither sicklucker nor oats are lurkers. Moreover, I quite obviously excluded the real lurkers. I want to kill the people who are popping into the thread, not contributing and fucking off. Not the people who weren't here at all. Iamp wanting to lynch me for dumb shit isn't new, and he's always wrong. He eats out of my hand when I'm scum and wants to lynch me when I'm town. And this is all I remember about him from 5 years ago. It's always fun. I'll decide later whether this was a scummy push, though. He hasn't done much of use other than his "case" on me, whcih he started before I had even gotten into this thread proper. Anyway, I don't think he is a good lynch target for D1. He usually starts to see the light eventually when he's town, and if he isn't, we can kill him tomorrow. Better stuff to do today.

2. No longer want to kill Sent. But the reason Palmar gets the votes is because he was clear and concise about his aims, whereas HF had many different goals. Now that sent claims he read his PM, and has actually started playing a bit, I don't think he's a good kill anymore. @Palmar: do you still plan on murdering sent?

3. I'm still quite happy with Palmar for mayor, his posts have been townie enough for me and I trust him to find scum a lot more than I do HF.

4. Lets lynch Oats. I'm on board with damdred, but he promised to contribute in 10 mins, so I'll give him until then. Oats has given no sign he has read the thread beyond looking for stuff to troll and throw out random names. Grackaroni has managed to look a bt more townie in his posts today. He pulled himself together and he is totally buddying me and I'm falling for it. Deal with it.

On March 04 2019 06:54 Holyflare wrote:


3. I trust Palmer to find mafia a lot more than Holyflare.

4. Let's lynch the wagon Holyflare started.


Ok Acro. Have my vote.

On March 04 2019 06:35 Acrofales wrote:

Yes, they are... you'll note that you weren't on there either. Although I'm not entirely sure anymore why not.

Palmar isn't on there because I was (and am) voting for him for mayor. So no, I don't think he's scum
BH falls in the Koshi, Mocsta, Pandain, Rels, Onegu list of people who hadn't posted at all, and thus I couldn't make my mind up either way.
DarthFoley doesn't seem too scummy and had been posting.

Sentinel was the only guy there who was mostly policy, and only partially because he was doing nothing of value. The rest were all there because I read their filter and found nothing much to believe they're town:

Oats posted a craptastic bunch of "reads" and then went away again without adding anything to the thread except for a bunch of troll posts. Lets get this show on the road. Kill Oats for justice

FF wants to be mayor, but a town FF would know he stands no chance with HF, Palmar, Cobbler, Ace, rayn, BH and iamp. Yet that is literally the only thing he has posted about all thread. Other than that he's thrown some shade around without any conviction.

WoS, ExO_. Entered, trolled, fucked off. Basically did nothing beyond phone in their presence, promise better and fuck off.

sicklucker: I'll call him "Oats light".

Wiggles: don't really want to lynch him anymore, but he was there in the WoS, ExO_ list.

Other people aren't on there because I think they're probably town or there simply isn't enough information to figure it out yet.

On March 04 2019 06:17 Acrofales wrote:
I'm here and caught up. There's a few posts in specific that I want to respond to, but in general:

1. Iamp is an idiot. He makes a case on me every game and it's always really bad. I will respond in more detail when I get to it, but his whole case is dumb. For starters, neither sicklucker nor oats are lurkers. Moreover, I quite obviously excluded the real lurkers. I want to kill the people who are popping into the thread, not contributing and fucking off. Not the people who weren't here at all. Iamp wanting to lynch me for dumb shit isn't new, and he's always wrong. He eats out of my hand when I'm scum and wants to lynch me when I'm town. And this is all I remember about him from 5 years ago. It's always fun. I'll decide later whether this was a scummy push, though. He hasn't done much of use other than his "case" on me, whcih he started before I had even gotten into this thread proper. Anyway, I don't think he is a good lynch target for D1. He usually starts to see the light eventually when he's town, and if he isn't, we can kill him tomorrow. Better stuff to do today.

2. No longer want to kill Sent. But the reason Palmar gets the votes is because he was clear and concise about his aims, whereas HF had many different goals. Now that sent claims he read his PM, and has actually started playing a bit, I don't think he's a good kill anymore. @Palmar: do you still plan on murdering sent?

3. I'm still quite happy with Palmar for mayor, his posts have been townie enough for me and I trust him to find scum a lot more than I do HF.

4. Lets lynch Oats. I'm on board with damdred, but he promised to contribute in 10 mins, so I'll give him until then. Oats has given no sign he has read the thread beyond looking for stuff to troll and throw out random names. Grackaroni has managed to look a bt more townie in his posts today. He pulled himself together and he is totally buddying me and I'm falling for it. Deal with it.

On March 04 2019 06:39 Acrofales wrote:

Given that I want to lynch Oats, I don't want to vote HF to mayor kill him. It defeats the purpose.

On March 04 2019 06:52 Acrofales wrote:
EBWOP: also, HF's case on Oats was based on some nonsense that made no sense. Not on the reasons that Oats is actually scummy (although it did start that way). It was about Oats changing his mind when Oats never changed his mind (just threw out an unsubstantiated read and never commented on it again).

On March 03 2019 06:25 Holyflare wrote:


No, it just makes it obvious you haven't read the thread carefully enough to piece together coherent reads and are just throwing whatever you can in the open in the hopes something sticks. Pretty scummy oats tactic.

On March 03 2019 06:44 Holyflare wrote:
No, it's that. That's quite a common oats mafia play. Throw darts blindfolded and be controversial and hope something sticks.

On March 03 2019 18:56 Holyflare wrote:


I don't think he's any different from his scum or town game that I remember. It seems to be a scum team strat to push me though because I don't think I've done anything underhanded or misguided this entire game. Just been honest and forthcoming yet have two people with somehow overwhelmingly strong scum reads on me. Seems majorly fabricated.

Oats had x amount of scum reads based on people that voted other people for mayor (which I didn't!) yet have you heard anything in depth about anyone other than me?

On March 04 2019 07:14 Acrofales wrote:

Really, not paying attention? In a 65 page day 1 i was mostly afk for? You're obviously right there.

On March 04 2019 07:14 Grackaroni wrote:
Holyflare is your whole Oats case that he scum read both you and the person you were scumreading?

On March 04 2019 07:24 Grackaroni wrote:

Yeah and my question was from reading the quotes that you just posted and that's exactly what you said.

You said Oats called you mafia and the guy you were calling mafia in the space of a post, so his reads are inconsistent.

And then you said that people scum reading you must be fabricated and some sort of conspiracy...
I mean... I'd think you'd be used to people scum reading you by now.

For what it's worth I read Oats from making the same headless chicken behavior that Rayn does:



Though if your case is the three posts you quoted in that Acro post then that's really bad.

On March 04 2019 07:29 Acrofales wrote:

Acro is town.

Wave, oats I'm on board with.

Rayn is a no. Your fight with him didn't give me scum vibes on either of you. Just made me want to tear my hair out.

Chez also a no. He seems fine.

LS I can't figure out, and can't be bothered to right now as I already have enough ppl I want to lynch.

Mocsta said before the game he wouldn't be around and he wasn't around. His few posts don't seem scummy, but he'd better start playing tomorrow.

On March 03 2019 23:35 Mocsta wrote:
My god. Im not gonna catch up at 55 already lol

Im guessing best filters to read are sentinrl + palmar/hf?

So far i read sentinel / sicklucker / palmar

On March 04 2019 07:49 iamperfection wrote:

that seems a bit of a leap

On March 04 2019 07:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
Ok but srsly that one thing rsoul said about me bugs me.
Everyone else is able to pinpoint exactly what I've been doing wrong this game, but somehow rsoul can't figure me out? Also there was some scum game a while back where rsoul caught me straight up when nobody else did.

Seems like a weird cop out from her.

I wish I cared more about this game honestly

Hf make me care more

On March 04 2019 14:05 Mocsta wrote:

Not true

I was going to read urs last of the three. But palmars led me down the path it did and i was content

I havent read urs and will avoid it as long as i can. Mainly because i suspect ur filter is big and cos i havent seen anything untoward from you that others quoted

On March 04 2019 18:01 WaveofShadow wrote:
Stop talking about mod stuff HF i hate that

On March 04 2019 18:09 Jockmcplop wrote:


I can get behind this, but what's the reasoning behind it?

On March 04 2019 18:21 Palmar wrote:


Hold on a second... the bolded? What's that?

On March 04 2019 18:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
AND PARANOIA KICKS IN
Too many warm fuzzy townfeels going around from so many active people and there are a bunch of people in agreement with this (includingme aaaaaa)

Will probably look some people up and make a real dumb case no one will listen to tomorrow when I think I've found scum.
Stay tuned.

On March 04 2019 17:55 Palmar wrote:


He needs to repent for his sins and respect authority. I am authority.

Also, I don't believe a word he says, I'm like 90% sure he's lying. I think one of two options is the real one here:

a) He read his PM initially, claimed this gambit, got called out on his bullshit and is now trying to pull back from it.
b) He didn't read his PM initially, and he didn't read it now. As soon as night falls he'll post "haha I didn't actually read my role PM suckers".

I don't think for a second he just didn't read his role PM and then read it without question when told to. People are prideful and his turnaround was... too easy. He didn't resist enough, didn't try to spite me at all for forcing him to do this.

Once you do anti town shit it takes a very, very long time for you to get back on my good side.

On March 04 2019 18:42 Acrofales wrote:

Cool. You can be my mayor of you wanna kill Oats with me.

On March 04 2019 19:06 Acrofales wrote:

K. I'm comfortable sheeping Palmar. Rayn not being abusive feels like he's trying to fly under the radar.

Now, if you can just vote Oats, I can afk the rest of the day

On March 04 2019 07:29 Acrofales wrote:

Acro is town.

Wave, oats I'm on board with.

Rayn is a no. Your fight with him didn't give me scum vibes on either of you. Just made me want to tear my hair out.

Chez also a no. He seems fine.

LS I can't figure out, and can't be bothered to right now as I already have enough ppl I want to lynch.

Mocsta said before the game he wouldn't be around and he wasn't around. His few posts don't seem scummy, but he'd better start playing tomorrow.

On March 04 2019 19:35 Acrofales wrote:

I have. The longer rayn goes without shitting up the thread the more I suspect him of scummy shenanigans.

That's not to say scumrayn isn't an abusive asshole. He's generally more tunnelly as scum than as town, at least in my obviously imperfect recollection. But rayn is being uncharacteristically passive and the longer it goes the more I suspect him.

Town rayn shits up the thread trying to find scum. Scum rayn shits up the thread for the sake of shitting up the thread. But rayn never doesn't shut up the thread. New behavior is weird. And probably scum weird.

On March 05 2019 00:24 Vivax wrote:


Do you really want to turn the first promising game in ages into a goddamn shithole by doing something that idiotic?

On March 05 2019 00:30 Vivax wrote:
I think you should cancel the flight, go to a coffee shop and try something else than what you've been smoking so far.

Who the fuck is supposed to be mafia on the Palmar for mayor wagon?

On March 05 2019 00:44 WaveofShadow wrote:
Like in HF's head:
'behold! I am scum leader palmar and I want all you lesser scums all to vote for me so I can waste the mayor lunch! Bwahahaha!'

Wave/mocsta/ls/chezinu/mz- 'yes sir'

On March 05 2019 00:54 Palmar wrote:


LS is weird, bunch of us know him very well, that whole bunch seems to think he's town.

I can't explain a read based on just knowing a person.

On March 05 2019 00:57 Palmar wrote:


Well, Damdred, rsoultin and I all agree

On March 04 2019 07:03 rsoultin wrote:


I don't have to agree on anything other than I'm floundering all over the place trying to find a good lynch today and will probably just end up sheeping iam or hf like a boob ^^

But I think you and LS and palmar and rayn all have good chances of flipping scum and maybe koshi and maybe chez but maybe not for #reasons and MZ is someone no one is talking about and Iam may be right on acro which gives me what? 8? So I'm wrong somewhere lol ><

On March 04 2019 06:52 Damdred wrote:
@sen,

I wanted to give your post a response that was not based on my feeling or tone.

So here we go,

The first thing I will point to is meta for LS, generally speaking he gives a good bit of town reads that seem flimsy early and he always seems to be noncommittal early. This is based off of meta and just not this game precisely. I do not think that this is a good point to have against him, he is always flip floppy on reads and super paranoid.

However there is a great point that his reads lack many scumspects or anything revolving actual verifiable reads that say x is scum.

He also is not as helpful this game as he generally would be, q lot of time he would dig in past games to figure out if player x does x or y.

There is also the point of his weak rage, seemed to be under almost no pressure but this is a bull tell he generally only goes it as town but he broke this as scum years ago so is not something to fall back on.

I think, that there is a chance that he is scum and you are correct Sen just based off the laziness and the lack of discernable scum reads that he is not pushing.

However I do not think hes the best lynch today. But you did lit together a good case.

On March 05 2019 00:58 WaveofShadow wrote:
Does ls needlessly martyr as scum? Usually a townie thing to do

On March 05 2019 01:09 Palmar wrote:


By the way:

Holyflare knows me mistaking earlier positions of rsoultin and Damdred from here:



and not realizing they had changed their view, is actually not scummy at all. It simply means I haven't read or followed every post in the thread. I'm just as likely to make that mistake as town and scum, and again, HF is perfectly aware of this.

I'm like 90% sure he's just posturing, but in case he is not, if something like this is what he justifies lynching me on, that's only mafia HF play.

On March 05 2019 01:09 Tumblewood wrote:

actually i take this back. it made me laugh but why would mafia ever ever want to install a town!palmar as a mayor?
this does not help wave’s logic, but i suppose mafia do not want town!HF as mayor either, and his wagon is IMO scummier than palmar’s. but forget those two, iamp’s wagon is all town except maybe damdy or rayn.

On March 05 2019 01:38 Vivax wrote:


He claimed VT

On March 05 2019 01:44 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Managed to skim the thread before work. I like the Conversion case better than Acro and Oats right now for a D1 lynch. Missed the asking for permission angle the first time through, but even the recent stuff is weirdly fixated on MZ. Tunnel tunnel tunnel

No one else seems to give a crap about Tubesock. I'd be happier if people came out and argued I'm wrong for whatever reason, but instead Tube's being ignored by my town reads.

Will try to catch you again over lunch if possible, but otherwise won't be active until after lynch

On March 04 2019 05:49 Mr. Wiggles wrote:

What do you think of Tubesock's deflection of my pressure earlier in the game?



I asked for some kind of read, and instead got an answer of "later". I responded to their own questions and was ignored when they returned to the thread. Their posting has been very non-committal, and they still haven't really pushed a lynch target yet. The pressure votes don't come out and say, "I think this guy is scum", but are hedged as an activity motivator.

On March 05 2019 02:06 Holyflare wrote:


You are correct this is very non-committal but it's also very ballsy. Why not just make up some names or anything to placate you? Seems like he's figuring out who mafia is still possibly.

I'll give him a read through to double check though.

On March 04 2019 17:59 Holyflare wrote:
I think exo is a mafia robot who is finding it awkward to ask questions to blend in.

On March 05 2019 02:33 Fecalfeast wrote:
I am working and decided not to finish reading the thread. I'll be home about 3 hrs before deadline and try to check in on my breaks. Anyone have a quick recap for me?

On March 05 2019 03:54 Alakaslam wrote:

It’s due to voting analysis. HF doing a very scummy thing there.

On March 05 2019 04:34 Acrofales wrote:
Hey Holyflare, is your mayorial shank still aimed straight at Palmar's heart? If so, this mayor train that's forming up on you is pretty damn troubling.

On March 05 2019 05:12 Holyflare wrote:


Nobody piled onto me and nobody really went to save palmar so I've learnt either mafia don't care or palmar shouldn't die.

On March 05 2019 05:23 Blazinghand wrote:


I actually tried to self-vote in the voting thread and was told by the host that it's not allowed