End of the World Party Mafia - Page 247

On March 07 2019 20:27 Holyflare wrote:
And if you think I'm town why do you think vivax is mafia?

If he was mafia he's gone out of his way to ask mod questions on something he knows I could only be telling the truth about and he'd look stupid. He's almost invariably town.

On March 07 2019 20:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:

The problem here is Mocsta that there are also players unlike 90% of the people who actually want to get some personal pleasure out of this game besides lynching random lurkers who are afraid (or otherwise incapable) of posting. I would have never had any fun with this game if people just lynched players from post count 0 -> (which is often the most correct play for like the first three days). Sometimes you make mistakes, sometimes you make horrible mistakes, but oh well, that happens.

On March 07 2019 20:27 Mocsta wrote:
i dont have a firm read on him.

i dunno i liked him this cycle actually + im waiting for you to tell me what alignment information is revealed if he flips town or mafia.

i truly have no idea where we will be if hes a mislynch, and that concerns me.

On March 07 2019 20:32 Mocsta wrote:
fair enough

i was assessing based on a heuristic i have of him as town.
Hes even more nitpicky than you, and im not seeing it.

I concede that heuristics are normally context specific, so perhaps its not relevant to apply.

Like i said, im happy to go elsewhere.

Im secretly concerned about rsoultin/rayn.
Dunno, im starting to feel paranoid.

The simplest answer is the best.
Acro/HF/Palmar are all town, and all mafia had to do was sit back and enjoy the fireworks.

Maybe there is one, possibly two active scum. But i suggest the majority are in the lurker pool.
Fuck, thats what I would do.
Why would i want to read 250 pages if i didnt have to..
WHy would i want to read 40pages every 24hrs if i didnt have to..

Damdred #YOLO!

On March 07 2019 20:35 Holyflare wrote:


I mean it's fairly straightforward to piece together. If BH is town and Trfel is town, mafia want to get the least flak possible for it. They are increasingly likely to be the people that voted off of both trfel and BH wagons. I made a whole post on this. It also means that the people that did a last minute vote switch were likely to be town too because why risk looking awful at deadline to save a scum partner aka vivax/conversion.

If BH is mafia then it is incredibly likely mafia tried to save him or look good in lynching him. I don't see anyone that is trying to look good on his wagon all I see is people shitting on it for no discernable reason. Thus it's likely mafia tried to save him by voting trfel.

I think BH was a very easy mislynch to be on if you were mafia and he was town. Somehow it was like pulling teeth and he survived. Thus I think he's mafia based on votes.

Based on play I think he's absolutely mafia. He's not actually giving reads, he's giving advice on how to play and comments. He seems sarcastic in nearly every post he makes. He's only voting me because I'm the wagon that will help him survive because I've already contradicted his only case on me with evidence that I do the same thing in multiple games (claim at night) but he ignores it and carries on.

On March 07 2019 20:39 Holyflare wrote:
The absolutely optimal play here is to ignore vivax because now he will be stuck in this world for the remainder of the game playing as +1 mafia vote.

On March 06 2019 00:29 Acrofales wrote:
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So. Lets see, where does rsoultin go with her investigation into Palmar. I tell you, it's nowhere. She doesn't try to engage with Palmar. She doesn't analyse Palmar's posts. Nada. She just throws shade:


Rayn at the time had a pretty weak scumread on Palmar based on (1) Palmar thinking I was looking townie, and (2) Palmar wanting to policy kill Sent. There really wasn't much there, but this is literally the only justification for rsoultin going after Palmar [...]

iamperfection actually looks really townie from later posts. I am okay with him being mayor. (Or go with Palmars plan, although he is prolly mafia but i cba of he just kills sentinel).

I think Palmar found an easy way out to "play" during weekend on sentinel and os trying to look better. I dont really believe he comes and says "hi see you on monday i dont play on weekends" and then starts reading the thread anyways as town. If you know palmar you probably know what i mean.

On March 04 2019 20:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Yeah i tried to actually talk with you when you asked me to, then you never answered anything but with nonsense posts and then left.. So there is that.

On March 04 2019 20:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[....]
You literally said nothing in your post towards acro except that you basically confessed you had a townread on him based on shit things and that you hadn't actually read him at all and apparently weren't even willing to do that.

So mr. Palmar now you are just lying.

On March 07 2019 20:39 Holyflare wrote:
The absolutely optimal play here is to ignore vivax because now he will be stuck in this world for the remainder of the game playing as +1 mafia vote.

On March 07 2019 08:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax doesnt matter because he counts as three mafia when he is town, i wouldnt be surprised if he started seriously calling marv mafia right now and even that wouldnt make him mafia.

On March 07 2019 18:34 Jockmcplop wrote:



Is it fair to characterize your day 1/night 1 activity as follows?

As town: High risk for you - medium risk for town team - some reward for you - no reward for town team

As scum: High risk for you - high risk for scum team - high reward for both you and scum team.

On March 07 2019 21:11 Acrofales wrote:
If someone believes rayn tell me, and I will go find the relevant posts. Until such time as any of my townreads think rayn might have a point, he can go fuck himself. I'm done filtering things that happened yesterday.

On March 07 2019 21:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I an going to tell you if you can find the relevant posts that support your argument that i bolded in red in my post i will promise you i will never call you mafia in this game anymore.

On March 07 2019 20:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Here is the last addition to my points on Acrofales, after this i will stop and probably afk.


This is a big part of his case on rsoultin. rsoultin's early read on Palmar and where it came from. At this point Palmar had said;
- not gonna play, it's weekend
- Policy lynch Sentinel
- HF might be town
- "thanks i hate it" on one of my posts, whatever that meant
- some more posts which say "lynch Sentinel"

rsoultin agreed at the time with my read on Palmar, and Acrofales criticises the reasoning. The problem is that this is Acrofales' reasoning for me thinking Palmar is mafia:
(1) Palmar thinking I [acro] was looking townie
(2) Palmar wanting to policy kill Sent

First of all (1) had never happened at that time.
Second of all, for (2), i have absolutely no idea where he read rayn scumreads Palmar for wanting to lynch Sentinel, because these are all my words on Palmar at that point;


I mean i literally encouraged his policy lynch rather than find it scummy.

Okay so, let's pretend Acrofales made a mistake with timestamps and pretend i had all my stuff on Palmar already. here's the rest of what i updated on my read on him:

this one isn't entirely about acrofales, and definitely NOT because he read him town

I can maybe see how this turns into just "he townread Acro" in some idiots mind, but even if that was the case Palmar himself confessed he was guilty of this so how can rsoultin (or me) be blamed of being mafia because of a "shit scumread" when we actually called out CORRECT things regardless of Palmar's affiliation?? (note that while this is not a reason why rsoultin scumread Palmar, but Acrofales thought it is so it's relevant to the case).

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How can any fucking townie not read things above properly enough to:
1) call rsoultin scum based on that
2) what i bolded in red

?????????????

On March 03 2019 20:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Because giving a list of liek 10 people and calling all of them scum or "let's lynch them" and not havign a single read on anyone else doesn't actually accomplish anything. Like earlier he made a big post which said:
1) rsoultin shouldnt be any alignment atm
2) bc shouldnt be any alignment atm
3) hell everyone should be on your watchlist
4) Grack made a useless list post as first entry and then fucked off again. It seemed quite a lot like scum doing stuff to "seem active"

---> continues making lurker list posts after that all game

On March 03 2019 20:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Palmar, if you are town, go seriously read Acrofales' filter and actually look at what he says. Then look at his case on Grackaroni and read the posts after that again.

On March 03 2019 18:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Quick summary, more on when i get on computer (aka wake up again)..

iamperfection actually looks really townie from later posts. I am okay with him being mayor. (Or go with Palmars plan, although he is prolly mafia but i cba of he just kills sentinel).

Holyflare is mafia. He made a complete trashcan case on me that's factually incorrect and followed it up by "i dont understand any of his townreads", which if he believed in should always warrant a vote on me. Yet he just leaves it to it and does nothing. Very very mafia.

rsoultin made the saddest series of posts basicalöy ever where she calls me "you look very town but i am wary" and after hf's trash case i am suddenly her #2 scumread. I mean this is literally the stupidest thing i have read anywhere this year... i am scum because i look town and hf said things that arent even true? Okay.... sadly enough i dont think it makea her mafia but i am never gonna believe she wiöl make rational decisions towards me / bssed on what i say so i have no intention of wasting my time talking to her.

Then there are tubesock and slam who +1 both of above. I'd say one mafia there. Slam has looked a bit more town lately and certainly isnt even rwading rhe game based on his posts so who knows..

I think Palmar found an easy way out to "play" during weekend on sentinel and os trying to look better. I dont really believe he comes and says "hi see you on monday i dont play on weekends" and then starts reading the thread anyways as town. If you know palmar you probably know what i mean.

Oatsmaster is very likely to be town and hf's meta read on him is completely incorrect. Not that oats is helping much or isn't a headless chicken but that doesnt mean he is mafia, in fact it meeans the opposite quite often.

Acrofales has only talked about lurker after lurker after lurker. More likely to be scum. Only real read he gave was TT based on one post that he disageed with (liked the tone), but then wants him as mayor???!?!?!? Why do yoi want someone you dont think is right to be mayor?!?! Like why the fuck would you ever want that?

Now good more night.