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Alakaslam
United States17322 Posts
I have mine now “Hussy” | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On March 06 2019 16:13 Mocsta wrote: fine. luckily the case is not predicated on that point. thoughts tina? Lol on phone and have a purring puss in my lap. Let me get breakfast and to my comp first. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17322 Posts
On March 06 2019 15:58 Mocsta wrote: ##Vote: Ace I filtered Ace because I was both suspicious and appreciative of the small post count. Below are my thoughts as I read through: https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/542541-end-of-the-world-party-mafia?user=Ace&view=all This took longer than I thought, so there nicely summarised conclusion. Just a stream of consciousness. This feels good to me, in particular the 180 shift in mindset to HF at the EoD1. + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler [#357/8] + On March 02 2019 11:58 Ace wrote: Is there any power the Mayor has besides having a Day 1 lunch? On March 02 2019 12:01 Ace wrote: Lynch* Focused on mayor. Will he run? + Show Spoiler [#622/654] + On March 03 2019 02:10 Ace wrote: I think we should nominate someone who has barely posted yet as Mayor. There are a lot of thoughts already posted that could help us draw conclusions based on conversations. Giving a semi-lurking/lurking player lynch power and forcing them into the game seems like a good move to me. So a player like Tumblewood or tubesock should be nominated (they've barely posted from a cursory filter check). On March 03 2019 02:13 iamperfection wrote: sounds like a retarded plan to me. On March 03 2019 03:26 Ace wrote: Why + Show Spoiler [#662] + On March 03 2019 03:35 Ace wrote: Only some of us started this game knowing who is town so that premise is moot. I think you should give those players a chance to reveal their motives. You've been asking people about reads already - this idea jives right along with where you supposedly want to go. If the player is bad, then say so and we'll pick a better person with the potential to positively contribute. Emphasising mayor idea as pro-town choice. + Show Spoiler [#1197] + On March 04 2019 02:18 Ace wrote: Holyflare is absolutely hilarious. He/she gets my vote. Abandons mayor idea to mayor HF due to humour? No quote reference. I presume it is this on the same page: On March 04 2019 01:10 Holyflare wrote: Its interesting, because on one hand, you can argue its a "pro-town" move as his mayor idea received no traction, nor did it stimulate discussion. On the other hand, the idea is severed as if there was no connection to it in the first place; which is dissonant with the previous posts advocating it is pro-town.Because I'd rather get rid of cheats and if that means siding with mafia then so be it. People play differently, but I would have expected some sort of acknowledgement that it failed. + Show Spoiler [#1198/1199] + On March 04 2019 02:21 Ace wrote: BTW, if Sentinel doesn't read his role PM leave him for the Mayor Lynch and unvote him in the voting thread. Nezt best suspects should be considered instead. I actually think there is merit to HF stating people voting for Palmar over him when they have similar ideas on who to lunch (Sentinel). On March 04 2019 02:23 Ace wrote: Uhhh *lynch. Basically if they have similar ideas on who should be lynched and HF came up with the idea first(not sure, have to re-read) then why is Palmar gaining more support than he/she is. Could be nothing but I think this is one of the few real "divisive" issues that can show scum motives that we've had so far. Changes gears with the following: (1) Joins what I deem to be thread sentiment by confirming support to mayor policy lynch on Sentintel. (2) Sheeps HF argument that whoever wanted to mayor lynch Sentinel first should be mayor (3) Suggests there could be scum motivation between choosing HF or Palmar As a post in isolation, this reads OK/pro-town in that its sheeping thread sentiment with a hint towards scum hunting motivation. However, what actual scum motive or merit is there to choosing HF>Palmar if both want to lynch Sentintel and HF said it first? Mayor candidate is equally a popularity contest, and this is even moreso if both want to lynch Sentintel. The more I think about this post, the more I think this is a weird mindset for a townie. Ace votes HF due to humour, but agrees that whoever suggested Sentinel first, should be mayor. Given, this could actually be Palmar (as he admits), it indicates a total lack of care for both who is elected mayor, and the content within this post. I acknowledge 24hrs has passed since he proposed his mayor idea; however, there seems to be a full detactment from that idea. There is only focus on the mayor candidate, and who is voting them. Critically, no information is given on who Ace will swing his lynch vote towards. This one in particular is peculiar, and again, indicating a token level of care for the cycle. + Show Spoiler [#1204] + On March 04 2019 02:42 Ace wrote: Wiggles re-read what you wrote here and think about what a non-Sentinel lynch could reveal. I think we're on somewhat similar terms of thinking here. @Acrofales: *nod*. Wiggles is good here and points out one of the issues with Ace supporting the Mayor the first onto Sentinel idea. I think this is very WIFOM-y to suggest. I think everyone knows that HF is capable of swapping his mayor vote at EoD and justifying it. So it doesn't reveal anywhere near is hinted. + Show Spoiler [#1210] + On March 04 2019 03:09 Ace wrote: I really, really hope you and Wiggles are putting things together without it having to be explicitly stated 😁 So btw who is the case for second best vote? More hinting at ?nothing? The question on the second highest vote is OK, as to me its unclear if HF means he will lynch the second biggest thread consensus wagon. The thing is, why ask HF for this clarification? Is he preferring Sentinel to be lynch regardless of role PM confirmation? Is he concerned that HF may turn loose cannon and not follow through with the second highest vote? Is he seeking to know whoelse is on HF scum list? A The thing is, I would be asking this to HF if i was concerned about him, because its indicating HF has lack of care in direction of the mayor lynch and would be following thread sentiment. My expectation is for Ace to follow this through. Again, who is Ace interested in placing his vote on? This all seems to be superficial/1-dimensional care for the game. + Show Spoiler [#1378] + On March 04 2019 06:01 Ace wrote: Town consensus is influenced by scum posts. Mayor shouldn't follow it to the tee. Mayor should be someone with their own ideas about who is likely scum while considering "the town's" opinions. We want a leader not a sheep 😁 + Show Spoiler [#1383] + On March 04 2019 06:03 Ace wrote: I think you should ask on what premise would I want to skip scum mates into the post for Mayoral candidates and then avoid seriously pushing them. WIFOM argument. Tone is indicative that the idea was "pro-town" yet all posts since dropping it are detached. People play differently, when it comes to admitting an idea is sunk, so I will treat this as neutral. + Show Spoiler [#1387] + On March 04 2019 06:06 Ace wrote: No. I wanted an issue to force strong opinions to hold players to. I just picked two players at random who didn't post a lot at the time. Later on the HF/Palmar runs served that idea even better. Both seem headstrong, have the same "plan", and from what I can read command some sheep in this game. As a starting point I think that's pretty good. This reads good at face value. I wouldnt classify his campaign for this mayor idea as creating an issue in the thread that required resolving. I actually dont get his comment about the HF/Palmar. Where is the contemplation that this could be town vs town? I interpret this as one side is good, and the other is evil. -> i.e. It seems Ace is happy to pick one side of HF/Palmar and sit there. Again, where is Ace preference for lynch? + Show Spoiler [#1393] + On March 04 2019 05:26 BloodyC0bbler wrote: My response is more or less going to be impacted by your response to my question. On March 04 2019 05:40 iamperfection wrote: i probably wont give my full reads until tomorrow. i think your probably town though cause i think your confused by my play and are trying to figure out my alignment On March 04 2019 06:11 BloodyC0bbler wrote: see shit like this makes me still see you as mafia whereas your analysis post was one that was making me second guess my read -_- On March 04 2019 06:12 Ace wrote: Awww shit it's ScumC0bbler 😁 + Show Spoiler [#2184] + On March 05 2019 05:01 Ace wrote: @holyflare: just voted you for Mayor. I haven't fully caught up but I've been skim reading. Assuming you win the election your plan is what again? Just restate for clarity so I'm not confused or in case I missed any new developments. This is acceptable because of possibility that Sentinel issue was resolved. However, I am not a fan, as it again is shedding no information on who Ace finds scummy. I get Ace doesn't need to share, but other than an ambiguous post to BC, it appears hes only interested in locking down a mayor candidate because of a policy lynch? + Show Spoiler [#2205/2297/2340/2361] + On March 05 2019 05:08 Ace wrote: Dang homie. I remember you being fun to play with. Don't give up so early ^_^ On March 05 2019 05:44 Ace wrote: Blazinghand don't get yourself lynched for bs. If you're town you just waste a day as there's no real discussion being generated regarding you, and it's an easy wagon for Scum to hop on. On March 05 2019 05:47 Oatsmaster wrote: Ace why are you trying so hard for someone you don’t know the alignment of? On March 05 2019 06:13 Ace wrote: Define trying On March 05 2019 06:16 Oatsmaster wrote: Posting exclusively about how we shouldn’t lynch BH in your last like 5 posts On March 05 2019 06:23 Ace wrote: Might want to read that carefully champ. I didn't address you or anyone else. Just Blazinghand. In my opinion a null series of posts. I think this is more a personality thing, that some people gravitate towards outside of being mafia/town. + Show Spoiler [#2366] + On March 05 2019 06:27 Ace wrote: If you think BH is going to flip Town, then why not lynch Palmar? This is really odd. I haven't checked, but I presume HF declared he is voting Palmar at this point. So ace who was advocating two headstrong people in Palmar/HF is good for town, seems pretty non-chalant about Palmar. It also gives some viability to Oats calling out Ace for calling about BH before. Does Ace think BH is town? Again, who is Ace scum read? Is it BC? There seems to be no care in the outcome of the game. + Show Spoiler [#2399] + On March 05 2019 06:51 Ace wrote: Random vote. Got a prod that I didn't have a vote on anyone. I'll change if Im around before EOD. Is this a scumslip? WHO PRODDED ACE THAT HE DIDNT HAVE A VOTE?!?!?!? Again, why is there a total lack of care in the game to place a random vote on Koshi.. What about BC? If ace flips red, Oats is confirmed green for picking this up and calling ace out on it. + Show Spoiler [#2451] + On March 05 2019 07:51 Ace wrote: @Trfel you're close to being lynched by deadline. Claim. Interesting post. Its a typical post from either alignment, but I find it interesting how clear, direct and engaged Ace seems about this. You could argue town!ace was trying to avoid a mislynch, but i could WIFOM counter that it was to discern if worthy of a bluesnipe; or that mafia!ace was bored and had a surge of excitement. + Show Spoiler [#2597] + On March 05 2019 08:49 Ace wrote: This post reeks. Why would you pop up near EOD to post this? You even segregated players and faked outrage. Heavy FoS here. I dont like this post. Hes called BC scum twice, and kept a random vote on Koshi. No follow through to BC. Everything with Ace seems superficial / lack of care; otherthan when he demanded Trfel claim + Show Spoiler [#2668] + On March 05 2019 08:58 Ace wrote: @BC: where did I say I want Palmar killed??? @trfel: I think you should seriously claim if lynch noise bout to drop. Ace cant remember he asked Rsoultin about lynching palmar? The trfel claim thing is odd to me, given, ace hasnt taken a position on trfel, nor is it clear who Ace sees as a viable alternative. Note, ace vote is still on Koshi, not BC who is his ONLY read. You can argue taht its near EoD and panic modes, but the whole game, the only item ace has shown some direct interest in, is with trfel claiming. I dont find that townie. + Show Spoiler [#2821] + On March 05 2019 10:21 Ace wrote: Well that was terrible. @Trfel: Really wish you claimed :'(. GG tho dude/dudette. There are no mafia doctors so vigis can shoot Holyflare at will. If he somehow does not die tonight he is an auto-lynch tomorrow. Earlier in the thread when I was talking to HF and Wiggles, I was alluding to the fact that Hf or Palmar have to stick to their plan on the lynch (Sentinel). It would take a very convincing reason to lynch someone else. For all his talk, Palmar never came across as a strong scum read. HF lynching him instead of Sentinel or even BH means he has to die. He did not stick to his guns and did not have good reason to lynch Palmar. side note:Would have been funny (and rage inducing) if Trfel flipped Cop and Palmar flipped back up Cop. Anyway, we kill HF asap. No fucking around. Interesting how Ace gears up instantly against HF. Ace is fleeting from moment to moment, no actual investment in the game. Ace is mafia, im not going to bother reading into the Night1 posts. Shit up and vote Holyflare Hussy | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17322 Posts
On March 06 2019 16:29 rsoultin wrote: Lol on phone and have a purring puss in my lap. Let me get breakfast and to my comp first. Shut up and vote Holyflare, huss- Well shit I probably should not call you hussy | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On March 06 2019 16:29 Alakaslam wrote: Shut up and vote Holyflare, huss- Well shit I probably should not call you hussy Yeah you should already know I'm not doing this lol >< | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On March 06 2019 16:13 Mocsta wrote: fine. luckily the case is not predicated on that point. thoughts tina? I agree with most of your thoughts on his filter, but in particular the detachment and hyper focus only on truffle. I'd have to imagine that if anyone in the scum qt knows truffle they'd have to suspect he was blue given his play (imo) is pretty strong. And I've already said how fucking disingenuous it is to sit there and go oh god HF you lynched Palmar like you said you would almost all day phase! My pre-associative brain wants to weave tube in here. His filter really stood out to me the other day as having nothing whatsoever of interest in it other than a half-hearted truffle push that I originally interpreted as bussing. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
And I'm a bit sad at how eager Rels has been to do stuff with me and still he's not doing anything with me.* | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9212 Posts
On March 06 2019 10:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Soo post one suggests that you think trfel is town and then you decide to vote for him as scum bc "you don't know whats going on with BC" HMMMMMM Also you're one of those HF lurker voters... This is literally hours after the flip dude. What about him literally killing palmar is making you question his motives. Jock you've waffled so many times on HF in the last 24 hours I can't help but feel like you're setting yourself up for either side of an HF lynch and you're just waiting to see which way the thread goes. You also ask a lot of questions and push very few reads. You have only one substantial post detailing who you think is scum and have done nothing to advance your case... my goodness we're gonna have quite the docket of scum once I'm done sifting through the HF voters. Yeah but this is a stupid case, and heavily cherry picked. Unfortunately you accidentally cherry picked the part that shows exactly why I did what I did. I'm sure you'll be gone for a week or whatever now though so you just left this here like a fart before you left. Great job. Is there anything about my explanation for my questioning of hf yesterday that doesn't make sense? I had him as a townread and he's probably the most influential guy in the game at the moment. The way he went for the will I/won't I that you quoted here with Palmar and then explained it as just trying to have a laugh and inject fun into the thread (which is his explanation for all his anti-town actions) was something that got me thinking... So given that during the night phase I have nothing pressing to take care of I thought I'd try and get more information to try and see where he's coming from (this is also why I'm didn't make alot of reads yesterday - no-one's listening to me anyway so it wouldn't help with town decision making either). You guys read each other and make cases based off years of meta knowledge (which probably explains this weakass shit I wake up to), I only have people's actual posts to go off, and HF's were something I found a little weird. He is by no means the most suspicious guy in the game to me, but he's the most important at the moment so I don't want to be caught with my pants down accidentally townreading him. Same goes for rsoultin. My thinking was exactly the same - although as the day went on it became clear that no-one's really paying her any attention so I dropped it. When it comes to the trfel vote I was mostly concerned with making sure acro didn't get voted out as he's definitely town and useful. I wanted to get on a wagon and BH seemed like an interesting guy to keep around which was enough to go on for what was basically a coinflip. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On March 06 2019 17:16 rsoultin wrote: @HF where is the Viva town or could be town read coming from? And I'm a bit sad at how eager Rels has been to do stuff with me and still he's not doing anything with me.* I'm not sure if I believe it myself but I didn't get the reaction I was expecting from vivax which was a bit scummy. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9212 Posts
Rsoul I'm not still not sure on though. She sure wants to think and write exactly the same opinions as hf more often than not. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9387 Posts
On March 06 2019 16:29 rsoultin wrote: talk about double entendre.Lol on phone and have a purring puss in my lap. Let me get breakfast and to my comp first. Jeebus | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
What benefit does my flip bring other than drawing you closer to end game? BH at least gives you the information about wagons. I'm also pumping out content comparatively to BH who is just sitting there with the most information in the game about his wagon and instead he's still just repeating to kill him. You may not agree with what I'm writing but that's your choice. You can look at MZ's spreadsheet to see how stupid lynching palmar would have been if I was mafia. I'm not stupid as mafia, I demand thread consensus and people town reading me because it's the path of least resistance. I will look into you Holyflare voters and if I see that you complained that BH isn't dead I will know your motivation about lynching me is completely feigned. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On March 06 2019 17:20 Holyflare wrote: I'm not sure if I believe it myself but I didn't get the reaction I was expecting from vivax which was a bit scummy. So I stopped at your giant associative read post cause it took me like 10 minutes to read through mocsta's shit cause my brain is wandering but if you're not reading viva town why even bother? Isn't that all based off marv being town and viva being town so scum wasn't trying to save bh? | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
 totally edited post too i'm kinda unfilteredish half-awake | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On March 06 2019 17:21 Jockmcplop wrote: BTW hf is 100% definitely town is the conclusion I came to after yesterday. Rsoul I'm not still not sure on though. She sure wants to think and write exactly the same opinions as hf more often than not. How have you reached this conclusion? | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On March 06 2019 17:24 rsoultin wrote: So I stopped at your giant associative read post cause it took me like 10 minutes to read through mocsta's shit cause my brain is wandering but if you're not reading viva town why even bother? Isn't that all based off marv being town and viva being town so scum wasn't trying to save bh? Yes? Nobody in the thread said anything about saving bh. It was just really those votes. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9387 Posts
Some point this cycle. Preferably after ace responds. I want ur take on my ace case | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On March 06 2019 17:27 rsoultin wrote: not gonna lie i really want to believe chez's maybe claim for #reasons but lol i doubt there's anything like another cop role in this game anyway You want to believe we have 3 cops? What | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On March 06 2019 17:28 Mocsta wrote: Hf Some point this cycle. Preferably after ace responds. I want ur take on my ace case I don't agree with it. Why would someone fabled for being so good at mafia make such blatantly false accusations? If he doesn't come up with some read based on those posts then yeah, probably mafia. | ||
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