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Palmar
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I just think it's a weak play if he's mafia, and I like the fact he's not just focusing on the things in the thread right at that moment. I didn't actually read much of his cases. I got the feeling, possibly wrong, that he was reading and responding in the thread while still trying to filter out a few people. It looks like he's trying. Like even if Sentinel flips town, lynching him is a good move for town right now. I have absolutely no qualms about killing people for playing anti-town. | ||
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On March 03 2019 20:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: First of all there is no figuring out if your policy lynch is ideological or scum, because its ideological regardless of your affiliation. I am not arguing lynching Sentinel is a bad thing i just dont come to games participating into policy lynches on people who dont post or dont read their role pm, because they should not join the games in the first place and should just fuck off and get modkilled. I play because i want to play and lynch mafia and there is no way to tell if those people are mafia or not. Well not everyone knows I'm ideologically inclined to policy lynch people. However that's moot, the main thing is that you will find mafia by policy lynching. People constantly underestimate the power of a policy lynch like this. As you can already tell anyone who says "Well we gain no information if everyone just votes Sentinel" is completely full of shit because that NEVER EVER happens. Pulling together policy lynches is hard work, this thread is proof of that. People are gonna have opinions on the notion and talk about other things in the process. Hell we have two lynches so other shit needs to be discussed too. Now give me my policy lynch (or vote me mayor) and I can spend my time not arguing with a bunch of people who think they're smarter than they are. On March 03 2019 20:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: I feel like the whole first chapter is full of nonsense because it doesn't really say anything. Second chapter also doesn't say anything because Sentinel isn't playing, it's like saying "i wouldn't call you mafia if you were more town". Second part is actually good. If you're gonna draw attention to yourself with some ridiculous stunt, you better have a play to follow up. He has nothing, it's just a mechanic to skate by on. Now I don't believe he hasn't read his role PM, I think he's full of shit and using it as cover. But that's just me. On March 03 2019 20:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: Another thing; Do you think a guy who jumps guns blazing on people who jokingly (or not) claim mafia at the start of the game can somehow thing it is less suspicious to fake claim masons than to say that they are not actually masons? I mean like if your principles that strong on stuff like that (like for example you and your policies) how on earth does it makes sense the guy who is telling the truth is more worth questioning than the guy who is lying? I call big big BS on Meapak's stuff on that. I don't know what you're talking about. Wasn't it Damdred who claimed masons (as a pretty obvious joke). I actually liked Damdred's early posting. I haven't read/noticed anything by MZ. | ||
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On March 03 2019 23:18 LightningStrike wrote: Since we know Palmar wants to use his mayor thing on Sent why is Sent the leading vote again guys? Because the only thing better than Palmar controlling 1 kill is Palmar controlling 2 kills. | ||
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On March 04 2019 00:10 Vivax wrote: HF are you jealous of Palmar or something. For years now. | ||
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On March 04 2019 03:45 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I'm VT btw Now apologize for playing anti town. I'm probably still going to kill you for playing anti town. Just so we're on the same page. | ||
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Palmar
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The only reservation I have about iamp is he has a lot of sort of... overly aggressive "questions", like responding to LS's outburst, asking who tina is. But that's a minor concern, he is 100% off the table is a lynch candidate today. He's probably one of my stronger townreads at the moment. | ||
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On March 04 2019 17:47 Acrofales wrote: Can't you just give him a slap on the wrist or something? Or at least tell us why his earlier shit outweighs the later stuff in deciding who to kill? Because this just sounds lazy to me. And I need you to be not-lazy so I can sheep you. He needs to repent for his sins and respect authority. I am authority. Also, I don't believe a word he says, I'm like 90% sure he's lying. I think one of two options is the real one here: a) He read his PM initially, claimed this gambit, got called out on his bullshit and is now trying to pull back from it. b) He didn't read his PM initially, and he didn't read it now. As soon as night falls he'll post "haha I didn't actually read my role PM suckers". I don't think for a second he just didn't read his role PM and then read it without question when told to. People are prideful and his turnaround was... too easy. He didn't resist enough, didn't try to spite me at all for forcing him to do this. Once you do anti town shit it takes a very, very long time for you to get back on my good side. | ||
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On March 04 2019 18:00 Holyflare wrote: Sentinel should have been modkilled. To be fair that was pretty clearly a joke (timestamp etc). But you should also not ask him questions like that. Stop inviting people to break the rules. | ||
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On March 04 2019 18:01 WaveofShadow wrote: Stop talking about mod stuff HF i hate that instant townread for WoS for being cool. | ||
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On March 04 2019 18:10 Tubesock wrote: For new reasons or stuff you’ve already said? I so much liked the second wagon bit. He's just envious mate. | ||
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The reason I think mafia is unlikely to be on HF's wagon is that it's a raggedy bunch of contrarians, baddies and outright trolls. I think these protest votes are actually more likely to be town. I think my wagon (and iamp's to a lesser extent) is a much safer bet for mafia. I'm the conventional choice, the easy choice to make. I'm playing pretty townie, I'm a well known name in all eras of TL Mafia, I have a clear objective etc. I think mafia is less likely to be contrarian like that. It's somewhat similar to my thoughts on sentinel, he might be mafia because he wasn't enough of a difficult assholes. If there is one way to describe the people on HF's wagon, including HF himself, it's "difficult assholes". | ||
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On March 04 2019 18:14 Holyflare wrote: Only talks about town reads, has no suspicions on pretty much anything in the game. Perpetuates nonsense policy lynch after he likes Sentinel's effort when he hasn't even read it. His last post about acro is entirely a wall of hedge whereby he looks like he's falsely weighing up Acro's alignment but really it's wishy washy and says nothing. His iamp read looks completely bs too for similar reasons to his acro read. Iamp is town but wait here's reasons I can say he's not town later in the game. None of this is concrete town palmar stuff. There's also the fact we can acknowledge that mafia were pushing for his candidacy if he does flip mafia  Hold on a second... the bolded? What's that? | ||
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On March 04 2019 08:14 Mocsta wrote: alarm bell Berates town when not even caught up..... He's not berating town at all, he's making an argument on how to play the game. It's actually put forward in a pretty respectful way. Of course it's fucking wrong but that's not the point. I fully believe Pandain actually believes what he's say. Overall I dislike Mocsta's filter. On March 04 2019 00:28 Mocsta wrote: Bad post and trfel knows it Town can have all these symptoms.. which is why he hesitates with i kinds want to... Okay, so you think it's a bad post... and then what? I mean, Mocsta is not wrong, town does stupid shit, but the entire point of the exercise is to figure out which stupid shit is done by mafia. Even the wording on "Town can have all these symptoms" doesn't invalidate Trfel's point that mafia could have those symptoms. If it's such a bad post do you want to investigate Trfel? Because you didn't post about him ever again since then. Or was it simply a defense of sicklucker? I didn't think your "not posting shit in the thread" read on sicklucker is strong enough to warrant defending him. Overall the feeling I get from Mocsta is he's either attacking or complimenting single posts (the two I quoted, some post by BC etc) without much direction. He's not trying to get anything done, he's just... posting. He's a really good candidate for mafia. | ||
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On March 04 2019 18:40 Holyflare wrote: I think there's quite a few obvious reasons Sentinel could do what he's done, as town, and none of them should make him the lynch today. No I know townies do stupid shit all the time. Including playing anti-town. It's the way he's gone about doing the things he did that's suspicious to me. In general people who play mafia think they're better than everyone else and are spiteful assholes. If he genuinely hadn't read his role PM I believe there is absolutely no way he just caved in I read it, thus option b). Now option b) says nothing about his alignment of course, as he still doesn't know it, but that's irrelevant. The option I think cannot be true is c) He didn't read his role PM, then caved in when I pressured him and read his role PM and claimed his role. I just don't think people work like that. Maybe I'm wrong, but yeah. I am very, very certain that either a) or b) is the truth, not c). | ||
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Town read: iamperfection Damdred Town lean: Holyflare Lightningstrike WaveofShadow Acrofales rsoultin Scum lean: rayn Scum read: Sentinel Mocsta As I write this... holy shit do I need to form opinions ona bunch of people. | ||
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On March 04 2019 02:53 Rels wrote: nope, the special feature we have over the regular forums is the filter button which we got after Nazgul played a game here and realized that it was awesome and felt sorry the rest of us didn't have it. | ||
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