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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 06 2019 06:47 GMT
#3986
On March 06 2019 09:51 rsoultin wrote:
-rolls around the thread like a demented potato-

DO NOT FISH HERE THEY ARE RADIOACTIVE.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 06 2019 06:57 GMT
#3988
On March 06 2019 11:16 Fecalfeast wrote:
also I think slam is mafia too

Thou fool!
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 06 2019 07:00 GMT
#3991
On March 06 2019 11:30 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2019 11:17 Holyflare wrote:
On March 06 2019 11:16 Fecalfeast wrote:
also I think slam is mafia too


I just made a case on him being mafia too?????

Oh! you have stances! Cool. Well he did state if he was mafia that getting rid of me would be a bad idea since it would make him vulnerable to getting lynched. He said this indirectly. You know how the trolls speak in this game.

Hehehehehehe
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 06 2019 07:03 GMT
#3994
On March 06 2019 13:16 Chezinu wrote:
Hey guys,

I'm Chezinu.

What's your name and role?

Alakaslamfish
Mercy

Good for close encounters of the third kind, but sexier
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 06 2019 07:08 GMT
#3995
On March 06 2019 14:07 Chezinu wrote:
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On March 05 2019 17:25 Chezinu wrote:
Hey guys,

Thank you far all the love so far this game. I know there is a particular individual out there who did not see me as the town that I truly am. Fortunately, she has started to speak with me not as if I was not another monster out there in this town, but as character to whom she can answer questions and even ask questions towards. It was beautiful. It was all you guys out there that turned her around! Thank you for saving me and allowing me troll freely. I shall troll better and bettter. I will practice my antics to make you guys proud!!!

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On March 02 2019 16:59 Tubesock wrote:
I like Chez because he’s entertaining.

I would love for a couple things in this game to be true. We RNG lynch Blazinghand, and that Chezinu hasn’t played with LightningStrike and falls to the rule of LS. Although that’s just the troll in me. I think Chez and LS are townie.


On March 02 2019 15:58 Tictock wrote:
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On March 02 2019 15:15 Chezinu wrote:
On March 02 2019 14:55 Tictock wrote:
I dunno... This Chez does not seem to be having fun. I don't know if I like this Chez.


Save the Chez?


Sure Save the Chez, but prob not Chez for Pres

You just felt like you were forcing youself to do the letter stuff, even when what you were posting didn't fit it. I would probably be calling you mafia if you were still at it.


On March 02 2019 20:50 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
As I said before. I have night continental shifts so my activity this weekend will be sporadic.

Current reads that matter.

Rsoultin
Iamperfection


Chezinu

Now to go into the why.

Iamperfection has literally done nothing so far this game thus far. He accused chez for posting to post while providing next to - content in his own posts. The one post he makes where he outlines a "read" he doesn't go into it at all then back burners it to harass someone for not playing at the level he wants.
I also hate people who talk about what any power role should do day 1 (actively talking about vig shots) as that leads to the potential of power roles outing themself to be sniped by mafia.

Rsoultin. The guy accuses a player (Chezinu) of posting fluff rp posts that provide no content. This post specifically screams at every core of my being.
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On March 02 2019 20:27 rsoultin wrote:
Pft. Chez was just such a non-entity in his roleplay posts. I don't care about the roleplay. It's just if he's engaged enough in the thread to roleplay, and also to try to communicate with other players and make comments about the game, I expect something shiny and smart from him. It doesn't have to be new.

But what he was giving were non-committal turds and I don't even know what that spoilered lynch list or ls emoticon thing was about.


Chezinu is a known quantity to RP in mafia games. Hes literally done it in some capacity in basically every game I can remember playing in with him. He always provides some form of content in said posts. He has literally given reads on players, and has been providing actual content without RP for a fucking change. Chez has clearly been doing more to push some form of conversation on players to force them to voice opinions. Clearly done more to help this game than most to this point.

Yes the guy has had some shit posts, but hes also playing the game seriously.


On March 03 2019 00:04 Vivax wrote:
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On March 02 2019 23:59 rsoultin wrote:
On March 02 2019 23:54 Conversion wrote:
On March 02 2019 23:21 Grackaroni wrote:
I feel confident in this so far:

Vivax
Rayn
Jockmcplop


I think that Rayn is reading MZ's posts wrong but I believe that he's actually trying to reason out MZ's motivations for the posts that he makes. I don't think MZ's posts have been scummy.

I think Vivax's posts are very very likely to come from town Vivax.

There is one person that I have a gut feeling is scum but it's not worth getting into yet and I want to see more posts.


is that me? what's the point of hiding the name?

On March 02 2019 21:26 rsoultin wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:22 Vivax wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:11 rsoultin wrote:
On March 02 2019 21:02 Vivax wrote:
On March 02 2019 20:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 02 2019 20:51 Vivax wrote:
@ Rayn

MZ said explicitly that he's accepting convs scum claim as a joke, but he wanted to know why he put in those names anyway.

Why is that a reason for you to question his motives?

And why does Conversion instantly get on the defensive about it when MZ said it isn't a reason to scumread him?

Read again, MZ never said Conversion isn't mafia. He said quite the opposite, and i understood perfectly what Conversion was pushing him about. That being said i think that particular answer later on where he explains his stance on Conversion can come easily come from either town or scum, which is why i dropped the conversation about it.


MZ was poking him about it as he said himself and that's how I was reading the entire thing. It's just you and conversion that seemingly are construing it as a scumread.

riddle me this: if you believe me to be mafia, in what world would my first post in a rather dull thread be exposing any of my teammates? if you were to believe I was mafia, as a townie you wouldn't care about my list as you'd have to believe I'm playing against mafia win condition by unnecessarily exposing my teammates for a joke post that wasn't even funny

if you believe I am town, then the order doesn't matter cause I'm just making a dumb joke


And this quote from Conversion isn't something a townie would ever write.

"Hey I made a joke post about me being mafia. Let me explain why if it weren't a joke post, it wouldn't make me mafia"


Okay, you can be in my non-lynch pile. This feels like a vivaxy thing to focus on though I can't say I read his post the same way you do. I'd actually call his post a potential strawman argument.

"Why did you pick those names?"
"Why do you care why I picked those names? It's a joke."

I agree with MP that names come from somewhere, joke or not -shrugs-


That's what I'd rather expect from a townie making a joke. And not try to use your joke post in an argumentation for you not being mafia.


Screaming agreement with you there. It's just I don't read the intention behind Conversion's posting as trying to make an argument that makes him not mafia? And since neither of us are him I don't know how we can know his intent for sure :/


ok this is cool, but if you're in agreement with Vivax, do you still want to lynch Chezinu over me? your trail is kind of soft here, unlike Vivax who is hard for "Conversion is mafia"

On March 02 2019 21:59 Trfel wrote:
I actually kinda want to lynch sicklucker.

He's currently contributed almost no reads (if I recall correctly, dislike of Acrofales and a town-to-meh read on rsoultin). Yet he took the time to defend himself verbosely from the slightest suspicion of rsoultin, which feels highly overdefensive, but his argument was defending his townread of rsoultin while his read, just previously posted, seemed far less committed:
On March 02 2019 17:08 sicklucker wrote:
rsoultin is town dawg. maybe. na. maybe. na

Does that make sense? It doesn't look like he's trying to find mafia, just trying to exist.


There's a ton of people doing this in my perspective, so could you go a little deeper in explaining why you picked sicklucker?


Still pushing for a Chez lynch.

I'm in agreement with Vivax in theory that someone using that type of joke post to say they're town is scummy. And disagree that's what you were doing. Don't have enough to go on to have a strong read on you.


Please why would you ever lynch Chez D1. He's so nice to have around and I think it would make him very very sad.

On March 05 2019 12:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
LOL I just watched that Chez why you are the goddamn greatest

On March 04 2019 07:08 Grackaroni wrote:
I've never seen an angry Chez

On March 03 2019 06:44 sicklucker wrote:
Chez hell no chez must not go



Guys remember that time when the mafia said they loved me?!??!

LOLOLOLLOL

I didn’t want you to die either though

You make it fun man

But

You were speaking of the savior that will always make me think you feel guilty brother lol
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 06 2019 07:10 GMT
#3998
Well sheeeit this thread was boring
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 06 2019 07:26 GMT
#4000
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 06 2019 07:28 GMT
#4001
I keep seeing muppet and baboon and stuff as insults

I have mine now

“Hussy”
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 06 2019 07:29 GMT
#4003
On March 06 2019 15:58 Mocsta wrote:
##Vote: Ace

I filtered Ace because I was both suspicious and appreciative of the small post count.

Below are my thoughts as I read through:
https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/542541-end-of-the-world-party-mafia?user=Ace&view=all

This took longer than I thought, so there nicely summarised conclusion. Just a stream of consciousness. This feels good to me, in particular the 180 shift in mindset to HF at the EoD1.

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+ Show Spoiler [#357/8] +
On March 02 2019 11:58 Ace wrote:
Is there any power the Mayor has besides having a Day 1 lunch?
On March 02 2019 12:01 Ace wrote:
Lynch*

Focused on mayor. Will he run?

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On March 03 2019 02:10 Ace wrote:
I think we should nominate someone who has barely posted yet as Mayor. There are a lot of thoughts already posted that could help us draw conclusions based on conversations.

Giving a semi-lurking/lurking player lynch power and forcing them into the game seems like a good move to me. So a player like Tumblewood or tubesock should be nominated (they've barely posted from a cursory filter check).
On March 03 2019 02:13 iamperfection wrote:
sounds like a retarded plan to me.
On March 03 2019 03:26 Ace wrote:
Why
- Interesting take on mayor. Likely stirring; however in my opinion it can be a constructive tool. I would definitely do stuff like this in real life. Could also be laying foundations to use as a platform to push himself.

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On March 03 2019 03:35 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 03:29 iamperfection wrote:
On March 03 2019 03:26 Ace wrote:
On March 03 2019 02:13 iamperfection wrote:
On March 03 2019 02:10 Ace wrote:
I think we should nominate someone who has barely posted yet as Mayor. There are a lot of thoughts already posted that could help us draw conclusions based on conversations.

Giving a semi-lurking/lurking player lynch power and forcing them into the game seems like a good move to me. So a player like Tumblewood or tubesock should be nominated (they've barely posted from a cursory filter check).

sounds like a retarded plan to me.



Why

You want to give a power to a player who you have no idea who is town or scum.

And if the player is bad they might do something stupid if they are town.
The goal is to lynch scum nothing more.


Only some of us started this game knowing who is town so that premise is moot. I think you should give those players a chance to reveal their motives. You've been asking people about reads already - this idea jives right along with where you supposedly want to go.

If the player is bad, then say so and we'll pick a better person with the potential to positively contribute.

Emphasising mayor idea as pro-town choice.

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On March 04 2019 02:18 Ace wrote:
Holyflare is absolutely hilarious. He/she gets my vote.

Abandons mayor idea to mayor HF due to humour? No quote reference.

I presume it is this on the same page:
On March 04 2019 01:10 Holyflare wrote:
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On March 04 2019 01:09 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 04 2019 00:32 Holyflare wrote:
On March 04 2019 00:10 Vivax wrote:
HF are you jealous of Palmar or something. Let him be the mayor, you should know yourself enough to know that you act upon the weirdest impulses at EoDs.
Not jealous, no. I see the same guy advocating the same lynch as me yet people jumping on his bandwagon and citing that the reason they're doing it is that they want sentinel mayor lynched like it's some revelation that only Palmar has brought to the thread. That's suspicious.
If you think mafia is involved in Palmar’s actions, then why have your own not changed? Why are you ok with pushing an agenda mafia is also ok putting forth?
Because I'd rather get rid of cheats and if that means siding with mafia then so be it.
Its interesting, because on one hand, you can argue its a "pro-town" move as his mayor idea received no traction, nor did it stimulate discussion. On the other hand, the idea is severed as if there was no connection to it in the first place; which is dissonant with the previous posts advocating it is pro-town.

People play differently, but I would have expected some sort of acknowledgement that it failed.


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On March 04 2019 02:21 Ace wrote:
BTW, if Sentinel doesn't read his role PM leave him for the Mayor Lynch and unvote him in the voting thread. Nezt best suspects should be considered instead. I actually think there is merit to HF stating people voting for Palmar over him when they have similar ideas on who to lunch (Sentinel).
On March 04 2019 02:23 Ace wrote:
Uhhh *lynch.

Basically if they have similar ideas on who should be lynched and HF came up with the idea first(not sure, have to re-read) then why is Palmar gaining more support than he/she is. Could be nothing but I think this is one of the few real "divisive" issues that can show scum motives that we've had so far.

Changes gears with the following: (1) Joins what I deem to be thread sentiment by confirming support to mayor policy lynch on Sentintel. (2) Sheeps HF argument that whoever wanted to mayor lynch Sentinel first should be mayor (3) Suggests there could be scum motivation between choosing HF or Palmar

As a post in isolation, this reads OK/pro-town in that its sheeping thread sentiment with a hint towards scum hunting motivation.

However, what actual scum motive or merit is there to choosing HF>Palmar if both want to lynch Sentintel and HF said it first? Mayor candidate is equally a popularity contest, and this is even moreso if both want to lynch Sentintel.

The more I think about this post, the more I think this is a weird mindset for a townie.
Ace votes HF due to humour, but agrees that whoever suggested Sentinel first, should be mayor. Given, this could actually be Palmar (as he admits), it indicates a total lack of care for both who is elected mayor, and the content within this post.
I acknowledge 24hrs has passed since he proposed his mayor idea; however, there seems to be a full detactment from that idea. There is only focus on the mayor candidate, and who is voting them.

Critically, no information is given on who Ace will swing his lynch vote towards. This one in particular is peculiar, and again, indicating a token level of care for the cycle.

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On March 04 2019 02:42 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2019 02:31 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
HF came up with the idea first, but I'm not sure whether I trust HF more to follow through compared to Palmar, especially if HF starts coming up with more cases. Might be the case that they deviate at the last minute and cause a bunch of chaos. In that sense, I like Palmar for mayor because he's colder.


Wiggles re-read what you wrote here and think about what a non-Sentinel lynch could reveal. I think we're on somewhat similar terms of thinking here.

@Acrofales: *nod*.

Wiggles is good here and points out one of the issues with Ace supporting the Mayor the first onto Sentinel idea.
I think this is very WIFOM-y to suggest. I think everyone knows that HF is capable of swapping his mayor vote at EoD and justifying it. So it doesn't reveal anywhere near is hinted.

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On March 04 2019 03:09 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2019 02:49 Holyflare wrote:
On March 04 2019 02:31 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
HF came up with the idea first, but I'm not sure whether I trust HF more to follow through compared to Palmar, especially if HF starts coming up with more cases. Might be the case that they deviate at the last minute and cause a bunch of chaos. In that sense, I like Palmar for mayor because he's colder.


My vote will never be on anyone other than Sentinel as mayor. If he claims a role pm being read then it will be on whoever is the second highest vote, as I've stated. I don't think I'm a "wild cannon" like you purport. More so Palmar will be just doing what he wants and that is far more detrimental when he self reportedly doesn't play weekends and has only really come up with a Sentinel policy lynch and some mediocre writings (although not awful to read, just no drive).


I really, really hope you and Wiggles are putting things together without it having to be explicitly stated 😁

So btw who is the case for second best vote?

More hinting at ?nothing?
The question on the second highest vote is OK, as to me its unclear if HF means he will lynch the second biggest thread consensus wagon.

The thing is, why ask HF for this clarification? Is he preferring Sentinel to be lynch regardless of role PM confirmation? Is he concerned that HF may turn loose cannon and not follow through with the second highest vote? Is he seeking to know whoelse is on HF scum list? A

The thing is, I would be asking this to HF if i was concerned about him, because its indicating HF has lack of care in direction of the mayor lynch and would be following thread sentiment. My expectation is for Ace to follow this through. Again, who is Ace interested in placing his vote on? This all seems to be superficial/1-dimensional care for the game.

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On March 04 2019 06:01 Ace wrote:
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On March 04 2019 05:58 Rels wrote:
I don't care who becomes mayor as long as he promises to follow the town consensus for his lynch. I voted rsoul but I'll switch to whoever is the leading vote near deadline if they make that promise


Town consensus is influenced by scum posts. Mayor shouldn't follow it to the tee. Mayor should be someone with their own ideas about who is likely scum while considering "the town's" opinions. We want a leader not a sheep 😁
Ace is talking mafia theory which I happen to agree with. However, I dont understand why he is suggesting this though, because its hypocritical with the position he has taken with HF. I also dont understand what that means for Aces mayor vote on HF if Sentinel role PM saga is resolved.

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On March 04 2019 06:03 Ace wrote:
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On March 04 2019 05:57 Grackaroni wrote:
Also pretty dumb idea that I had, but this post is weird:

On March 03 2019 02:10 Ace wrote:
I think we should nominate someone who has barely posted yet as Mayor. There are a lot of thoughts already posted that could help us draw conclusions based on conversations.

Giving a semi-lurking/lurking player lynch power and forcing them into the game seems like a good move to me. So a player like Tumblewood or tubesock should be nominated (they've barely posted from a cursory filter check).


If Tumble/Tube are actually scum there is a non-trivial chance that he just wanted to slip in the names of teammates into a post.


I think you should ask on what premise would I want to skip scum mates into the post for Mayoral candidates and then avoid seriously pushing them.

WIFOM argument. Tone is indicative that the idea was "pro-town" yet all posts since dropping it are detached.

People play differently, when it comes to admitting an idea is sunk, so I will treat this as neutral.

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On March 04 2019 06:06 Ace wrote:
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On March 04 2019 06:02 Rels wrote:
On March 04 2019 06:01 Ace wrote:
On March 04 2019 05:58 Rels wrote:
I don't care who becomes mayor as long as he promises to follow the town consensus for his lynch. I voted rsoul but I'll switch to whoever is the leading vote near deadline if they make that promise


Town consensus is influenced by scum posts. Mayor shouldn't follow it to the tee. Mayor should be someone with their own ideas about who is likely scum while considering "the town's" opinions. We want a leader not a sheep 😁

was your mayor plan a bait?


No. I wanted an issue to force strong opinions to hold players to. I just picked two players at random who didn't post a lot at the time.

Later on the HF/Palmar runs served that idea even better. Both seem headstrong, have the same "plan", and from what I can read command some sheep in this game. As a starting point I think that's pretty good.

This reads good at face value. I wouldnt classify his campaign for this mayor idea as creating an issue in the thread that required resolving.

I actually dont get his comment about the HF/Palmar.
Where is the contemplation that this could be town vs town?
I interpret this as one side is good, and the other is evil. -> i.e. It seems Ace is happy to pick one side of HF/Palmar and sit there.

Again, where is Ace preference for lynch?

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On March 04 2019 05:26 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
My response is more or less going to be impacted by your response to my question.
On March 04 2019 05:40 iamperfection wrote:
i probably wont give my full reads until tomorrow.

i think your probably town though cause i think your confused by my play and are trying to figure out my alignment
On March 04 2019 06:11 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
see shit like this makes me still see you as mafia whereas your analysis post was one that was making me second guess my read -_-

On March 04 2019 06:12 Ace wrote:
Awww shit it's ScumC0bbler 😁

Intent is unclear. I presume Ace reads iamp as town.

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On March 05 2019 05:01 Ace wrote:
@holyflare: just voted you for Mayor. I haven't fully caught up but I've been skim reading. Assuming you win the election your plan is what again? Just restate for clarity so I'm not confused or in case I missed any new developments.

This is acceptable because of possibility that Sentinel issue was resolved.
However, I am not a fan, as it again is shedding no information on who Ace finds scummy.
I get Ace doesn't need to share, but other than an ambiguous post to BC, it appears hes only interested in locking down a mayor candidate because of a policy lynch?

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On March 05 2019 05:08 Ace wrote:
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On March 05 2019 05:01 Blazinghand wrote:
On March 05 2019 04:59 iamperfection wrote:
Even you aren't this bad you have to be scum


On March 05 2019 04:59 Acrofales wrote:
On March 05 2019 04:52 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 05 2019 04:48 Trfel wrote:
Voting Palmar for mayor because of all of the mayors' targets I want to see [UoN]Sentinel lynched most. Him having a townread on himself while claiming to have not read his role PM is super suspicious, moreso the more I think about it. Other than his huge list post he hasn't shown much thought at all, he's been just following the thread sentiment. His overall play makes his effort seem fabricated. A few reasons being quoting my reasoning in one area while highly scumreading me in another, and more importantly not seeming at all invested in his reads. If he put all that effort into reading and making his scumreads, he wouldn't not actually push those reads and follow the thread sentiment like a headless chicken. It feels forced, and like he's trying to use the effort to prove he's town.

##Mayor Palmar

Catching up but nearly everything in this post is either wrong or disingenuous

BH isn't in this game and unless this is some sort of last minute ploy to get him to come out, seeing as we've got 4 hours to deadline I don't approve of wasting a vote on a player who isn't even around to defend himself

Turns out he was here all along, lurking until his train took out from the station. If he flips scum, I'm looking at you next.


I just didn't expect this game to be so high in activity. I gave up on reading the thread and just did a couple searches of my name to see who was talking to me. Since I don't have an important role and I don't think I'll ever be able to catch up with all this, I figure I might as well be lynched first. Even if I'm spared, how will I catch up on these scores of pages? I don't know how I did this in the past, tbh.
Dang homie. I remember you being fun to play with. Don't give up so early ^_^
On March 05 2019 05:44 Ace wrote:
Blazinghand don't get yourself lynched for bs. If you're town you just waste a day as there's no real discussion being generated regarding you, and it's an easy wagon for Scum to hop on.

On March 05 2019 05:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ace why are you trying so hard for someone you don’t know the alignment of?
On March 05 2019 06:13 Ace wrote:
Define trying
On March 05 2019 06:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
Posting exclusively about how we shouldn’t lynch BH in your last like 5 posts
On March 05 2019 06:23 Ace wrote:
Might want to read that carefully champ. I didn't address you or anyone else. Just Blazinghand.

In my opinion a null series of posts. I think this is more a personality thing, that some people gravitate towards outside of being mafia/town.

+ Show Spoiler [#2366] +
On March 05 2019 06:27 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 06:21 rsoultin wrote:
Yeah I still think Palmar is likely to be scum. Have no issue whatsoever mayoring Iam and killing BH (though I'm thinking we're likely to see a town flip there tbh) but I'm not changing my vote if it makes Palmar mayor.


If you think BH is going to flip Town, then why not lynch Palmar?

This is really odd. I haven't checked, but I presume HF declared he is voting Palmar at this point.
So ace who was advocating two headstrong people in Palmar/HF is good for town, seems pretty non-chalant about Palmar.
It also gives some viability to Oats calling out Ace for calling about BH before. Does Ace think BH is town?
Again, who is Ace scum read? Is it BC? There seems to be no care in the outcome of the game.

+ Show Spoiler [#2399] +
On March 05 2019 06:51 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 06:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 05 2019 06:37 Koshi wrote:
On March 05 2019 06:33 Holyflare wrote:
On March 05 2019 06:22 Koshi wrote:
On March 05 2019 06:20 sicklucker wrote:
na I need a confirmation too many rambos on this site who will shot vivax day 1 and waste are shit or something

Iamp is advocating to lynch bh constantly. It is our best bet.

Palmar tje fucker will shoot sentinel because palmar might be mafia.

Holyflare will shoot Palmar because town!HF is not really top tier and he doesnt know better.


Still no comprendo. Me no speak English.

He wants you to pad his ego.


Hey ace why koshi?


Random vote. Got a prod that I didn't have a vote on anyone. I'll change if Im around before EOD.

Is this a scumslip?

WHO PRODDED ACE THAT HE DIDNT HAVE A VOTE?!?!?!?


Again, why is there a total lack of care in the game to place a random vote on Koshi.. What about BC?

If ace flips red, Oats is confirmed green for picking this up and calling ace out on it.

+ Show Spoiler [#2451] +
On March 05 2019 07:51 Ace wrote:
@Trfel you're close to being lynched by deadline. Claim.

Interesting post.
Its a typical post from either alignment, but I find it interesting how clear, direct and engaged Ace seems about this. You could argue town!ace was trying to avoid a mislynch, but i could WIFOM counter that it was to discern if worthy of a bluesnipe; or that mafia!ace was bored and had a surge of excitement.

+ Show Spoiler [#2597] +
On March 05 2019 08:49 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 08:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Wait. I go to fucking work then sleep and come back to this clusterfuck? Why for the love of god are we lynching Palmar of all fucking people. You may hate his fucking guts right now but of all the "vet" or big name players in this game hes actually put in more effort than anyone fucking else.

Do you disagree with his reads? Likely. Do I? On some of them yes. But the guy is clearly playing for the town. Have any of you guys played with him? or remember games with him? He does this shit consistently with town. He polarizes everyone in the game for or against him to get reads / generate discussion. Sometimes it may just be because hes being an asshole or believes hes better than you.

So no I am not down for lynching him -_-


If you were going to off an old school player at this point just to do it you'd be better served with offing Me, Ace, BH, or MZ tbh. We all have done basically nothing in comparison.

We as an entire group have literally designed a day that lets mafia just slide by and do sweet fuck all and based on thread sentiment could get away with it for way way way too long. Sure you could after the fact try and harass suspects for reasons but basically everyone can regurgitate the same horseshit and you get borderline nothing.

So. HF get the fuck off Palmar. You may hate his fucking guts / think hes the worlds shittiest player but the guy is clearly attempting to help the town at this point and has done far more to push that then most in this game.


How about instead we look into this pool.

Onegu
Why?
1) Says he will be try hard. Is clearly not thus is not living up to what he said he would attempt.
2) Reads currently given have no substance to them
3) Clearly skirting by the activity requirements
4) Basically just has posts with 0 content


Iamperfection

I have already brought him up in my last analysis post. Basically it is very similar however to expand on it.

On March 04 2019 05:40 iamperfection wrote:
On March 04 2019 05:26 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
My response is more or less going to be impacted by your response to my question.

i probably wont give my full reads until tomorrow.

i think your probably town though cause i think your confused by my play and are trying to figure out my alignment


Since I have been waiting now for awhile to see what reads he has. Let me sum it up for you. He hasn't posted any of value. Why? Because he hasnt posted any reasonable reasons.
He has also asked for what? 3 vig shots now on players
Someone like this whos played as long as he had know better. This isn't behaviour IMO of a townie. Its scum.



This post reeks. Why would you pop up near EOD to post this? You even segregated players and faked outrage. Heavy FoS here.

I dont like this post.
Hes called BC scum twice, and kept a random vote on Koshi.
No follow through to BC.
Everything with Ace seems superficial / lack of care; otherthan when he demanded Trfel claim

+ Show Spoiler [#2668] +
On March 05 2019 08:58 Ace wrote:
@BC: where did I say I want Palmar killed???

@trfel: I think you should seriously claim if lynch noise bout to drop.

Ace cant remember he asked Rsoultin about lynching palmar?

The trfel claim thing is odd to me, given, ace hasnt taken a position on trfel, nor is it clear who Ace sees as a viable alternative. Note, ace vote is still on Koshi, not BC who is his ONLY read.

You can argue taht its near EoD and panic modes, but the whole game, the only item ace has shown some direct interest in, is with trfel claiming. I dont find that townie.

+ Show Spoiler [#2821] +
On March 05 2019 10:21 Ace wrote:
Well that was terrible.

@Trfel: Really wish you claimed :'(. GG tho dude/dudette.


There are no mafia doctors so vigis can shoot Holyflare at will. If he somehow does not die tonight he is an auto-lynch tomorrow.

Earlier in the thread when I was talking to HF and Wiggles, I was alluding to the fact that Hf or Palmar have to stick to their plan on the lynch (Sentinel). It would take a very convincing reason to lynch someone else. For all his talk, Palmar never came across as a strong scum read. HF lynching him instead of Sentinel or even BH means he has to die. He did not stick to his guns and did not have good reason to lynch Palmar.

side note:Would have been funny (and rage inducing) if Trfel flipped Cop and Palmar flipped back up Cop.


Anyway, we kill HF asap. No fucking around.

Interesting how Ace gears up instantly against HF.
Ace is fleeting from moment to moment, no actual investment in the game.

Ace is mafia, im not going to bother reading into the Night1 posts.

Shit up and vote Holyflare


Hussy
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 06 2019 07:29 GMT
#4004
On March 06 2019 16:29 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2019 16:13 Mocsta wrote:
On March 06 2019 16:09 rsoultin wrote:
On March 06 2019 16:02 Mocsta wrote:
For those that cant be bothered reading my stream on Ace.

Heres an interesting tease about Ace voting Koshi.
I would love to hear this one explained....

On March 05 2019 06:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
Hey ace why koshi?
On March 05 2019 06:51 Ace wrote:
Random vote. Got a prod that I didn't have a vote on anyone. I'll change if Im around before EOD.

Is this a scumslip?

WHO PRODDED ACE THAT HE DIDNT HAVE A VOTE?!?!?!?


Everyone with no vote 4 hrs in got a prod.
fine. luckily the case is not predicated on that point.

thoughts tina?

Lol on phone and have a purring puss in my lap. Let me get breakfast and to my comp first.

Shut up and vote Holyflare, huss-

Well shit

I probably should not call you hussy
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 06 2019 16:24 GMT
#4293
On March 06 2019 21:54 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2019 21:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I really think we should lynch Acrofales and i don't think anything is going to change my mind this phase anymore. He has now given himself a perfect narrative to do absolutely nothing than sound like a broken record repeating Holyflare is mafia because he did a stupid thing. The problem is if you don't kill him right now even if we lynch another mafia after N2 too many influential players are going to be dead and he will simply yell over anyone who's left and town and you will get irritated and lose interest to play. I know this because it's how i used to play as scum.

Here is a list why Acrofales is mafia:
  • He called out Grackaroni for making a useless list post and then continued doing nothing but listing lurkers / low volume posters for like next 24 hours. Neither of those are in itself necessarily scummy but saying someone is scum for doing a "universal mafia trait" -thing and then doing the same thing yourself is scummy as fuck and never comes from town, you'd have to be the biggest fucking hypocrite on earth to do that.

  • He scumread iamperfection for too long, he should know wayyyyy better regardless of the fact iamp made a case (that everyone should read) on him.

  • During the EoD he wasn't actively trying to do stuff, all he did was yelling and causing chaos. The most notable thing is he perfectly knew both Palmar's and Holyflare's mayor lynch choices don't align with his reads yet never ever during the whole time the debate was on tries he convince either of them to agree on a different lynch. Especially Palmar when they both share a scumread on Mocsta. There is simply no reason why a townie shouldn't care about this.

  • Fake anger after D1 flips and anger directed at wrong place. Tubesock had a good post about this.

  • After D1 Acrofales hasn't done a single productive thing. He has given himself a narrative in calling Holyflare mafia, hiding behind it, and doing nothing else. Even if he genuinely thinks Holyflare is mafia for doing a bad / stupid thing (which isn't even a good reason to scumread someone) it's simply pure mafia play to excuse yourself for not doing anything other than calling him mafia and everyone stupid and bad.


I encourage everyone to put your votes on Acrofales.

All these Lighntingstrikes and Alakaslams need to get their heads out of their asses. Wave if you want to spend the rest of the game with scum 5-years-ago-rayn then be my guest and have your vote on HF as policy but don't complain after the game, especially in case Acrofales at some point decides to call you mafia and wants to have you lynched. You will not like it a single bit. The truth is Holyflare executing his scumread Palmar, however bad or stupid you may think that is, isn't actually even close to a good reasoning of him being mafia.





I agree on the case on Ace. I had more thought on it and i think the fact that he was actually aware of Trfel (or at least looked like he is) suggests that it is more likely he did in fact know what Holyflare was about to do. I know a lot of people are saying Ace is too good as scum to do something like that but i don't believe that is the case. I think Ace decided he can use his activity as an excuse to "not know HF is gonna lynch Palmar", aka that he didn't see it, and did the numbers and thought he can get away with it. Also Ace is not like some fucking mafia god that doesn't make any mistakes.
+ Show Spoiler +
I caught him once because scum nuked meapak and i went to fakeclaim the nuke when for any player who doesn't have TMI that nuke never comes from mafia. Ace got confused and started gunning on me being mafia completely ignoring the fact before. And he couldn't even keep his story straight. So yeah, it's not like Ace alwasy does the most optimal play as mafia.


Mr.Wiggles is also mafia but that's for tomorrow.

That's quite a pretty narrative you've spun. It's all quite plausible, as I do believe we have a similar playstyle. It's also completely wrong, as I try to mimick my townplay as scum, and my townplay is what I'm doing right now. So if you build a meta case, at least do it properly.

It's blatantly false that I haven't done anything other than hound HF. I am principally hounding HF, because he needs to die. But saying I haven't done anything else since D1 is absurd. Did you even open my filter to write this case?

But more generally, something changed quite radically in how you're playing the game.
Show nested quote +
The truth is Holyflare executing his scumread Palmar, however bad or stupid you may think that is, isn't actually even close to a good reasoning of him being mafia.

What did you do with the rayn that absolutely always wanted to kill people for doing really dumb shit and would hound them relentlessly. This isn't even about your alignment, as you'd do it as both scum or town. The lack of you hounding people makes it seem like you're not invested at all in the game, which just makes me sad, as you made a case on me without actually puzzling over my filter. You just lazily threw together your "HF town" with "Acro tunneling HF" notes, and made a case for me to be scum, disregarding everything around it. You didn't even bother to double check your "HF town" read even after he shot Palmar and gloated about it.


This so looks like a base level scumslip wtf
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 06 2019 16:29 GMT
#4294
On March 06 2019 22:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Is there someone else that thinks this Vivax sheeping dead confirmed townies stinks?

HELL NO.

In fact I now have a lynch order assuming a scum flip of HF:

Rayn
Tubesock

For me, that’s damn impressive. I never get this far in solid belief.

No, HF must die or we will argue about it until the cows come home, and your illogical defenses of it are suboptimal play regardless of your alignment.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 06 2019 16:36 GMT
#4298
On March 06 2019 23:45 Jockmcplop wrote:
Alakaslam explain yourself.
Let's lynch ace. Or sent they are both super scummy.

Sentinel even has a 'scum' t shirt in a frame on his wall the scum that was gifted to him by the only person more scummy than he is.
Which is ace.

Holyflare is scum.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 06 2019 16:38 GMT
#4302
On March 06 2019 23:44 Acrofales wrote:
Because the ninja vote is on the right train, I'm gonna let it slide:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2019 23:39 Alakaslam wrote:
##Vote: HolyFlare


You bothering about this will make me fos you if he flips town
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 06 2019 16:45 GMT
#4313
On March 07 2019 01:31 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Why HF over BH, slam?

Because HF is actively being too defensive and too heartily defended, at this point, while the dead hate him

Hell I don’t even need other reasons now
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 06 2019 20:27 GMT
#4568
On March 07 2019 04:44 Holyflare wrote:
Even attempting to make a case on Slam is the most jarring and headache inducing thing I think I've ever done but I must persevere for the good of mankind.

For your own preservation you mean.

Continue to scrape the bottom of the barrel at the risk of getting splinters in your fingernails.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 06 2019 20:29 GMT
#4571
On March 07 2019 04:49 Holyflare wrote:
I think a BH lynch is key to solving a lot of people's alignments to be honest.

......

And strangely enough I am down with this but would rather HF.

Both may have to go.

I prefer HF first.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 06 2019 20:32 GMT
#4572
On March 07 2019 05:12 Holyflare wrote:
You may not like me in this game, you may think I'm mafia, you may think I'm town. None of those things do I care about. This is the information you have that is the most important thing in this game:

Show nested quote +

Trfel (11): Tubesock, sicklucker, [UoN]Sentinel, Koshi, Mr. Wiggles, Tumblewood, Fecalfeast, Jockmcplop, Acrofales, Vivax, Conversion
Blazinghand (10): Holyflare, Grackaroni, iamperfection, Oatsmaster, WaveOfShadow, raynpelikoneet, Trfel, rsoultin, ExO_, LightningStrike
Conversion (3): Mocsta, Alakaslam, darthfoley
Acrofales (2): Damdred, Tictock
iamperfection (2): BloodyC0bbler, Blazinghand
Koshi (1): Ace
Fecalfeast (1): Pandain
Grackaroni (1): Meapak_Ziphh
LightningStrike (1): Rels
[UoN]Sentinel (1): Chezinu
rsoultin (1): Onegu
Mr. Wiggles (1): Palmar


You had a vote on a guy that literally trolls for a mafia career telling us to lynch him and the vote was so close somehow that our doctor got lynched instead of him. That leaves some serious question marks hovering around, we have absolutely imperfect information that can easily be solved by either BH playing a game of mafia or lynching him and figuring it out.

If you can think of any reason not to lynch this guy to further your information gain today please let me know. I'm mainly looking at:

Tubesock, sicklucker, [UoN]Sentinel, Koshi, Mr. Wiggles, Tumblewood, Fecalfeast, Jockmcplop, Acrofales, Vivax, Conversion, Mocsta, Alakaslam, darthfoley, Damdred, Tictock, BloodyC0bbler, Ace, Meapak_Ziphh, Pandain, Rels, Chezinu, Onegu

These people didn't vote for BH (didn't even realise Koshi didn't, what a travesty). I think it's best to look into them first because BH would have been such an easy no qualms mislynch if he was town I don't think there should be any hesitation to lynch him from them. Which is suspicious as to why they did not and instead afkd on really pointless wagons or Trfel.

I was away for deadline serving sushi, but, nonetheless I hate that I am actually down with this plan
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 06 2019 22:09 GMT
#4637
On March 07 2019 05:39 Vivax wrote:
Theres maybe a 20 % chance we lynch HF today with how this is going.

All the mafias will just pile on a counterwagon and probably also the same noobs that elected him mayor.

THis is what I see
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 06 2019 22:13 GMT
#4638
On March 07 2019 06:24 Tictock wrote:
Sorry, never mind what I said about getting back to this game today.

Work wants me to come in and cover a shift.

Finally got some word about my roommate (hadn't really heard anything since "he is in the hospital, he is ok" from his fam), sounds like he is still suicidal and no clue when he will be released. Which tells me I am stuck in Limbo for a bit in this situation but probably need to break my lease and move out or somehow find a new roommate for a few months. Either way I think I need to take all the hours I can and go into work.

Sorry I have nothing related to the game, I probably should not have signed up with this shit going on.

Ok I’ll replace you with saitama
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