On June 07 2018 07:30 kitaman27 wrote:
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I have a couple years of rust to shake off. Go easy on me.
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I have a couple years of rust to shake off. Go easy on me.
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On June 07 2018 07:30 kitaman27 wrote: /in I have a couple years of rust to shake off. Go easy on me. O...M...G... /in | ||
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Lemme give you top tip kita is mafia for going to the effort of splitting kelsier post into mini quotes BiG job right thurr.. and for what??? | ||
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Too stupid to be conceived pregame and too much effort for a game we are too busy to play. | ||
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Keep belittling your own posts bro Supa townie, amirite | ||
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Called me mafia | ||
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Why is kelsier and superbia shining brightly to you? Aside from a humerous start from superbia . All i see is poking at low hanging fruit with zero insight. Also If anything. I believe kitamin is scummy for his suggestive language with you e.g. "confront" rather than what you point out. This is because i think you are over exaggerating the intensity of his vote on you. Not sure yet if intentional. | ||
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Meh list is pretty big. Favourite is all talk no walk ksc. On my day1 vote list Kitamin or one of palmar/rayn I dont like kitamin. Rayn has some good content and some twisted content. Palmar has the most forced content. Preferring palmar than rayn. Preferring kitamin than palmar. | ||
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Twisted content therefore is a matter of perspective of which i am still deciphering style vs malicious. The only reason why i consider you a vote candidate is because your start can only be characterised as odd and you have some perpsectives i absolutely disagree. If it wasnt clear. You are also my least likely to be co sidered or voted. As for ksc and superbia. If thats the sole basis i think tok early to hold that position. And why is hf or koshi different. Who are they avoiding working with? P.s. i find palmar fits ya bill of non townie play moreso than kitamin. | ||
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i still like fuba. i read warm cuddly teddy bears. the feels and joviality is strong with this one. | ||
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On June 10 2018 03:09 kitaman27 wrote: try hard vote. its parsed to meaningless fluff the content and appear more "analytical" that what it isCount me in on the rayn is mafia bandwagon. First dude to whine about the thread not being on track is usually mafia trying to make a town post or a try hard townie and there is nothing to suggest the latter so far. On June 10 2018 03:17 kitaman27 wrote: mafia know the most info day1 and when coupled with our level of play leads this towards a town tell. intentional twisting from kita.Mocsta mafia too for being eager to jump in the thread to call something out and falling way short. Can't imagine he actually thinks my joke post was an attempt to wow the thread for some town cred. On June 10 2018 13:56 kitaman27 wrote: mafia!kitamin presenting a damned if you do, damned if you dont argument.Show nested quote + On June 10 2018 13:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: I also dislike kitaman's reasoning on the vote, because if that's the only two things you can think of then well.. oh boy you're wrong and gonna be wrong a lot. Fine, I'll add party pooper to the potential options. It's the fact that you didn't really follow things up afterwards that looked the worst imo. When you said that Palmar's post couldn't have been genuine it read more like "I haven't posted anything wrong yet so he can't possibly have caught me". Your claim that the initial Palmar post was relevant scumhunting doesn't carry much weight considering the comment was made in passing and you don't directly confront him until now after 3-4 people start pressuring you. Lets hear why. its a core facet of the game to confront ppl hunting you. kitamin calls this scummy on the pretense of 3-4 others pressuring.. well fuck me, thats about as standard play as you can get.. why is this now leaning?? scum!kita.. thats why + On June 09 2018 14:16 kitaman27 wrote: future point. acknowledges slender is a friend of rayn. Is actively hunting rayn, so i suspect should be asking for rayn for feedback if slender posts contentShow nested quote + On June 09 2018 09:16 Grackaroni wrote: Man of 27 kitas, could you send me a banana? I am all out of bananas. I have heard that you have the bananas. We don't speak of that. I think slender is just a random guy rayn knows from Vendetta Strada. They teamed up in a game I hosted a while back. | ||
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If no one will vote kitamin i have to choose between palmar/rayn. I think rayn is still least likely to be scum in this group. I say so because he gives me the impression of being willing to die by the sword he forged. he is maintaining his will to post differently. he is maintaining his reads, instead of throwing shit out there to see what sticks. in short, he is doing what himself what he read superbia/ksc town for: i.e. playing solo - without a team. So, Palmar... I have nothing new to add then what others have commented other than I have mentally noted his extremely light and delicate "scummy" comment about kita. ##Vote: Palmar | ||
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you're just as bad as kita. damned if you do, damned if you don't. what, so i am the only one voting kita and then you would say why i wasted my vote. we dont even know rayn alignment and you are shitting on everyone. GTFO. the only post i have somewhat respect for is #201. keep that up pls. | ||
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i have discussed rayns kita read. In fact, theres probably 3-4 posts between me + rayn on it. how have I misconstrued anything? for someone that is talking about finding information to narrow things down, you are doing a heck of job of predetermining outcomes. secondly. regarding mafia faux pas, and its converse = town mentality. The only person in my opinion that has actively tried to narrow down things beyond early game is rayn. your #1 target. Since the palmar flip, you can paint your posts in whatever colours you want. The facts remain. You have demonstrated zero disposition to reconsider rayn content. You have demonstrated zero disposition to consider people outside rayn. You have demonstrated disposition towards berating those that did not vote rayn. There is too little content in the game to be tunneled. I find this scummy. #207 is outright stupid. Why should i be focused on team pairings. Associations is always POST FLIP. I thought kita was meant to be an analytical player? | ||
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like fuba to me reads like a feeler rather than a thinker. Why would you hold him to the same cold hard logical disposition of an introverted thinker? in my opinion, a feeler is more likely to cotton onto other arguments to join bandwagons, rather than put up blank positions that people like you can instantly shit on. Happy to be proven wrong from a meta dive if you can point in the right direction. i suspect im not far off the mark though. | ||
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stop trying so much and you might see the forest instead of the trees. i didnt mention kita joke post when i was seeking consolidation on him towards EoD. koshi said his first vote would be on town. He voted rels. THis is why i commented, is koshi declaring rels a town read? kelsier belittled his own contribution by claiming it was subject to a skim read. definition of "berate" 100% applies to you. "scold or criticize (someone) angrily." experience says its normally scum that like to shit on player straight after a lynch. In my opinion, you have only considered people outside of rayn in the past hour because you didnt get the lynch you wanted and are now trying to bully those that opposed the o-so-mighty HF. Clearly the next point is conjecture, but i dare surmise that of those you are berating, none were your second lynch option prior to EoD. | ||
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Early votes to me are the same as a Finger of Suspicion was back in the day. What matters is how it unfolds which is that when I was seeking Kitamin consolidation, I did not reference the initial joke post. This point/item is simply not worthy of further discourse. As for your query to explain the reference below: kitaman27:Mocsta mafia too for being eager to jump in the thread to call something out and falling way short. Can't imagine he actually thinks my joke post was an attempt to wow the thread for some town cred. In retrospect I can see this is written confusingly. Mocsta:mafia know the most info day1 and when coupled with our level of play leads this towards a town tell. intentional twisting from kita. Holyflare:which doesn't make any sense to me and looks like you misconstruing. Please explain it to me (it's also based on his rebuttal from the joke post). The point I was attempting to make is that kitamin27 is calling me mafia for being "outright wrong/stupid". I find rather that it is townies early game that are more likely to make polarizing / wrong / stupid statements early game simply because of the lack of information and that by nature, extroverted people need external stimuli to draw conclusions P.S. I find half the things you write I have to sit and think deeply about, whereas to you, its clear as daylight. We clearly dot i's and cross t's differently. Noted and accepted on renewed vigour. You can look at people that pushed a town lynch as much as you want; but i dont recall you trying to persuade against a palmar lynch nor you stepping up in his absence when the votes were tight. Meaningless now to question whether you thought he was a terrible lynch choice though so will leave this. | ||
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i do not apologise. please shoot me for my ignorance. | ||
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firstly its renewed vigour! and secondly, everyone can misconstrue. Its whether it is malicious in nature or not. | ||
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On June 12 2018 07:38 Holyflare wrote: I could, but I won't.Mocsta perhaps you can outline in which of my posts I show anger towards someone needlessly and don't use any facts to portray them as mafia in an accusatory way? Both the interpretation of anger and (ironically) facts are subjective. In my opinion this was exemplified in your filter. Now, whether you agree or not - I actually don't care and further to the point, don't acknowledge how this could even be relevant to ascertaining my alignment. P.S. This is a similar impasse to you claiming you were not agitated by not securing your primary lynch - Rayn. | ||
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scummy summary list on top of previous stuff + in what world is rayn + mocsta both mafia. | ||
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Slenderman the key difference I see between your position and HF is the read on Rayn. Now in HF world where Rayn is scum, I totally can perceive him going batty on people that voted the alternatve (town) option. In your world where Rayn is town and you know Palmar is town. Why are you concerned about those that voted Palmar? | ||
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On June 12 2018 08:52 Tubesock wrote: Or you are mafia attempting a two-for-one special.Voting Iamperfection. Cause I feel like this nightkill means something. Kill a townie, and then pledge vengeance in their honour! | ||
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Now everything else is dropped.. pfft. Why not kitaman? | ||
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On June 12 2018 09:04 Tubesock wrote: i'm trembling that you could vote me tubesock.Show nested quote + On June 12 2018 08:57 Mocsta wrote: literally you held a relatively strong position before on read with no mention of iamp at all. Now everything else is dropped.. pfft. Why not kitaman? I could vote you also. NK kinda implicates you as well since Superbia was suspicious but then kinda not. But he was pretty flaky on his read so he could probably be a threat to you as well. Why is iamperfection town to you? Because he is bored and not interested in the game? You don’t think a mafia wouldn’t say that to keep lurking? Kitaman is on the funny side of town, so as I said earlier I won’t vote him. Although if Kita does flip mafia then I’ll believe you’re Town so there’s that. The only thing the NK suggests is that mafia may have been concerned about N1 power roles - specifically medic dodge. Nothing is directly implicated as you infer. Who said iamp is town to me? I am commenting on your lack of consistency and after-the-event 'white knighting'. If you want my iamp read, given over 50% of the game is also crap posting or lurking, its firmly null. When are you planning to base your Kitaman read on content, as opposed to joviality? | ||
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On June 12 2018 09:45 Tubesock wrote: thats a fair position. Oh, I don’t think our definitions of white knighting match. Scumming me for trying a two for one, kinda means you town iamperfection... However, I meant it from the perspective I already view you scummier than iamp. Considering it seems only you and I are online: Would you like to continue the witty attempts, or meaningfully engage with me? | ||
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On one hand, it made me instantly think.. ohh, thats a good observation, interesting. On the other hand, I dont believe there are explicit references to this as frankly, I dont know if HF has a strong read beyond Rayn (and now, presumably Kita). The short story is, do you think this is something someone (i.e Kitaman) can genuinely misrepresent? | ||
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+ Show Spoiler [quotes] + On June 11 2018 07:48 Grackaroni wrote: It's SHENNANNY time people On June 11 2018 07:50 Grackaroni wrote: I voted perfect. On June 11 2018 07:58 Holyflare wrote: no shenanigans, lynch rayn with all the people that people scum read On June 11 2018 07:58 Grackaroni wrote: I'd rather lynch rayn than Palmar. That's why I'm not switching. On June 11 2018 07:58 Grackaroni wrote: Thought I'm not sure what Rayn is. On June 11 2018 07:59 fuba wrote: ##Vote: Palmar On June 11 2018 08:03 Calix wrote: Palmar reached 5 votes first and is the lynch. On June 11 2018 07:59 Grackaroni wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: Rayn On June 11 2018 08:06 Holyflare wrote: lynch grack for either being partners with rayn and wanting credit on his eventual flip or wanting to "appear" to want to vote rayn without actually lynching him On June 11 2018 08:16 kitaman27 wrote: At least fuba is consistent for favoring a Palmar vote over rayn. What did you even mean grack when you said "That's why I'm not switching."? That looks really sketchy. On June 11 2018 08:31 Grackaroni wrote: I wasn't really crazy about either of the lynches so I said that anticipating criticism of Rayn being lynched over Palmar and me throwing away my vote instead of voting a main wagon. On June 11 2018 08:38 kitaman27 wrote: Anticipating criticism? How do you know he wasn't going to flip mafia? For what it's worth a rayn + grack scum team doesn't make a ton of sense in my opinion based on the earlier plea from rayn. meh guess we'll see where the night shot goes and go from there. Well yes.. it does read overly dramatic and devoid of town motivation. The filter prior is nothing shining either. I will throw out there that fuba/Grack vote timestamps are the same. So Grack may have tried to hammer Rayn. I acknowledge Kitaman may have alluded to this when claiming rayn/grack doesnt make sense - however, I suspect that this was more tied to rayns multiple posts about Grack not being mafia. In summary, I am probably most curious to uncover why Grack felt the need to ditch his dead vote on iamp (and possibly hammer) if he didnt feel strongly about either lynch. Also, I dont know how I feel about a kita/grack team. Need to let this sink in more.. | ||
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On June 12 2018 14:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: i dunno if this is a hardclaim, but OPTION B on the OP states a medic is possible.There is no such thing as medic dodge in this game. Why aren't you dead Holyflare? Also explain me this: Show nested quote + He made a case on kita that made him "definitely mafiaa", that went nowhere and he forgot all about it or certainly didn't want to push it over a palmar read that's based off of one post and shit. Yeah i did that. It doesn't make me mafia. You are very very likely lying here since we just came out of a game where i decided to not vote for a guy who also happened to be you who is was completely 100% certain is mafia over another dude who ia originally had no idea about but whose play i just hated. I find it simply unbelieveable you actually believe that. Show nested quote + He voted Palmar who he knows can't play on a weekend based on absolutely 0 content and said it was a definitive scum read based on nothing. This is a blantant lie. I did not vote for Palmar based on 0 content, that's just simply untrue. I think HF point on grack is partially dismissed on the basis that grack may have tried to hammer you; though i don't know what this actually means in game context for alignment. | ||
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On June 12 2018 14:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: i genuinely dont follow this logic?Medic save doesn't do anything so medic is an useless role, why would you ever medic dodge? 1-shot doctor enables a one-time KP protect? Or you are arguing that game state is so murky that medic dodge is pointless? | ||
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On June 12 2018 14:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: dayam, next level thinking there.Show nested quote + On June 12 2018 14:10 Mocsta wrote: On June 12 2018 14:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: i genuinely dont follow this logic?Medic save doesn't do anything so medic is an useless role, why would you ever medic dodge? 1-shot doctor enables a one-time KP protect? Or you are arguing that game state is so murky that medic dodge is pointless? LYLO comes the same day regardless of if someone is saved or not so effectively a medic save does nothing. Without save 11-3 -> ML1 + NK= 9-3 -> ML2 + NK = 7-3 -> ML3 + NK= 5-3 -> ML4 + NK = 3-3 = LYLO With save 11-3 -> ML1 = 10-3 -> ML2 + NK = 8-3 -> ML3 + NK = 6-3 -> ML4 + NK = 4-3 = LYLO excellent point. | ||
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On June 12 2018 14:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: is that purely by association with kita?yes | ||
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On June 12 2018 14:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: you are writing very clear, but i am having trouble following the thought process.Show nested quote + On June 12 2018 14:25 Mocsta wrote: On June 12 2018 14:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: is that purely by association with kita?yes no, he just came out of a game where he played quite townie. I would assume he would try to emulate that as mafia since he sure as hell is capable of it. Also the eod1 incriminates him for those black-and-white thinkers (which this game is apparently full of) and there is not really any scum reason for him to do what he did unless he wants to gain my trust which isn't really hot fuzz atm. I concluded before that grack may have tried to hammer you. Him and fuba had identical timestamps. so it was happenstance that palmar was lynched. HF either ignores this or was not aware of it in his beat-down of grack. But, i dont understand how that assists with gaining your trust? i can only muster 3 reasons for his odd EoD play. 1 = townie-ish. On the basis of being a stronger town lean, save palmar (via voting rayn) 2 = scummy-ish. Avoid a dead vote on someone with no substantiation. 3 = neutral. Genuinely wanted shennanies. I dont think the post-reaction supports #3 at all. | ||
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Rayn and Palmer were 4-4, with Rayn to be lynched due to receiving 4 first. Grackeroni doesn't take a stance on either mislynch, instead voting iamperfection. This is technically Grack first vote, as the self-vote was mod-imposed to indicate he had not voted yet. Kita IIRC is the one that highlights to Grack that he is leaving a hammer to someone else, of which then both Fuba/Grack attempt to hammer Rayn + Palmar, with fuba/palmar securing first. I think this is relevant because if your read on Grack is not influenced by Kita, then, your interpretation is jumbled (i.e. Grack did not "keep" his vote on you, it was never on you prior). Like you can equally read taht Grack wanted to park his vote nowhere (i.e. iamp), and only took a stance when pressured by Kita. Actually come to think of it, Grack comments he would rather lynch rayn, which is convenient as rayn was the vote leader. I get HF point now. Regardless of fuba/grack being the same timestamp, grack 90% sealed rayn fate when he voted iamp. kita/grack/?iamp? as a 3-way? | ||
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On June 12 2018 15:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: HF laser focus has been rayn + those opposed to rayn.note to self; after work go and see how holyflare treats his scumbuddies when he doesn't "have to" do anything regarding them. I noticed the only people holyflare never talks in any way about are kitaman and iamperfection, i find that weird especially towards iamperfection who is just a trashcan and that's not really his reputation as town. He has had limited to nil comments also relating to rels / slender / tubesockm and you can also throw in KSC. | ||
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On June 12 2018 16:20 Holyflare wrote: u farnyThe nk is super weird and it makes me think about Mocsta being mafia more and more. Not only does he talk about medic dodging but a Superbia kill effectively gives no information and was imo a waste of a nk since he'd done nothing. BTW, do you note the self-contradiction by stating superbia gives no information (optimal for mafia) and in parallel state it was a waste of nk (presumably because it wasnt you lol) i really dont recall you randomly throwing rocks to see what shatters... hmmmm.. should i be reading this last game of yours? | ||
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On June 12 2018 16:37 Holyflare wrote: i may care about no info. But thisvgame is all murkyShow nested quote + On June 12 2018 16:30 Mocsta wrote: On June 12 2018 16:20 Holyflare wrote: u farnyThe nk is super weird and it makes me think about Mocsta being mafia more and more. Not only does he talk about medic dodging but a Superbia kill effectively gives no information and was imo a waste of a nk since he'd done nothing. BTW, do you note the self-contradiction by stating superbia gives no information (optimal for mafia) and in parallel state it was a waste of nk (presumably because it wasnt you lol) i really dont recall you randomly throwing rocks to see what shatters... hmmmm.. should i be reading this last game of yours? This is exactly why I think it implicates you. I don't give a crap about giving no information. I just nk people that oppose me and give the game life via talking a lot until it's a dead thread and you command it. Pointless and stupid item you raise | ||
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On June 12 2018 16:39 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On June 12 2018 07:59 kitaman27 wrote: I kinda doubt I'm getting shot, but if I do rayn and Mocsta should be the ones you guys focus on tomorrow. I still need to do a reread myself since I've only really skimmed the n1 stuff. I really have no idea who the third could be. I could honestly come up for a reason for basically every other player why they could be mafia aside from tube and slender and that's only because they haven't posted anything. They obviously all can't be mafia, but at the same time I'm also starting to get concerned about the assumption that only 1 of them is scum if its rayn + mocsta. Late game is going to be a complete mess at this rate. -super started out okayish, but has shown no interest in yesterday's lynch. -fuba has no reads and then shows up with the ninja Palmar vote -Rels seems like he threw out a post because he needed to say something, but it doesn't seem like he strongly believes anything he has said and just calls a bunch of stuff weird -koshi threw away his vote when he could have hammered rayn, but I guess he wasn't obligated to post that he was around or preferred rayn over Palmar -KSC no idea -iamp is posting nothing but throw away comments that aren't relevant to the game aside from the rayn vote -HF's most recent post about me being mafia has me a bit concerned because we basically share the same top two scum reads. Doesn't seem very consistent from his viewpoint. -grack threw away his vote when rayn was the logical choice for him. Guess we'll see who flips and go from there. I think this is an extremely surface level post that is effectively a glorified list post that says the whole game could be mafia. Pretty bad imo. Other than the shameless +1 this is ironic as its a position you have sort of advocared | ||
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On June 12 2018 17:16 Holyflare wrote: Yes but I didn't make it my "last will" and I didn't waste my time writing about every player in the game when I said it in one sentence. Touche I will pay that the credit it deserves | ||
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On June 12 2018 19:59 Koshi wrote: You sir are getting me confused with this guyI think from all players i like mocsta the least. Mafia wise I mean ofc Really does almost nothing Maybe Ido him short but his posts are the most boring and he just repeats the content of posts others made Yawn | ||
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Real bad Declares tubesock town based on a post suggesting i am mafia. Then declares me most likely mafia. Blatantly hiding behind others reads. I would like to know if koshi read on kitaman | ||
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On June 12 2018 22:40 kitaman27 wrote: What is this even saying in red and bold? Red = scummy, Point in bold is absolutely neutral, yet is written as townish.Alright I'm mostly caught up. I should have more time to play after this evening. I'm not really sure what to make of the superbia shot as his day one was rather lackluster. Tube looks pretty good now that he's entered the thread. Koshi I kinda have a gut read as the townish side of null for #198. Grack's reasoning for his vote pattern was scummy, but the way he admitted to screwing up rather than trying to justify things seems a bit genuine. I don't want to lynch into anyone other than rayn or mocsta this cycle at this point. More on them when I get the chance. What is it... | ||
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On June 12 2018 23:31 Grackaroni wrote: I am seeing the light.Mocsta Rayn HF In order of towniness. I feel pretty good about this much. I misread HF last game but there were a lot of signs that I didn't pick up on in retrospect. His posts are much more investigatory and I think he picks up on worthwhile things to push in his Fuba/Grackaroni posts. Last game he basically just chose strong targets and attempted to spew them as scum like Fuba said. I have a different feel towards him this game than last game. I want to lynch Koshi for his Mocsta read. We usually have pretty similar reads on things and Mocsta's posts after the day 1 flip are extremely townie and (imo) entertaining to read: + Show Spoiler + On June 11 2018 08:22 Mocsta wrote: right HF. keep being big mommy and berating everyone. you're just as bad as kita. damned if you do, damned if you don't. what, so i am the only one voting kita and then you would say why i wasted my vote. we dont even know rayn alignment and you are shitting on everyone. GTFO. the only post i have somewhat respect for is #201. keep that up pls. On June 11 2018 08:51 Mocsta wrote: #208 regarding me is highly superficial i have discussed rayns kita read. In fact, theres probably 3-4 posts between me + rayn on it. how have I misconstrued anything? for someone that is talking about finding information to narrow things down, you are doing a heck of job of predetermining outcomes. secondly. regarding mafia faux pas, and its converse = town mentality. The only person in my opinion that has actively tried to narrow down things beyond early game is rayn. your #1 target. Since the palmar flip, you can paint your posts in whatever colours you want. The facts remain. You have demonstrated zero disposition to reconsider rayn content. You have demonstrated zero disposition to consider people outside rayn. You have demonstrated disposition towards berating those that did not vote rayn. There is too little content in the game to be tunneled. I find this scummy. #207 is outright stupid. Why should i be focused on team pairings. Associations is always POST FLIP. I thought kita was meant to be an analytical player? On June 11 2018 08:58 Mocsta wrote: #213 i can see your perspective, but i dont undrestand why you hold it. like fuba to me reads like a feeler rather than a thinker. Why would you hold him to the same cold hard logical disposition of an introverted thinker? in my opinion, a feeler is more likely to cotton onto other arguments to join bandwagons, rather than put up blank positions that people like you can instantly shit on. Happy to be proven wrong from a meta dive if you can point in the right direction. i suspect im not far off the mark though. Show nested quote + On June 12 2018 19:59 Koshi wrote: I think from all players i like mocsta the least. Mafia wise I mean ofc Really does almost nothing Show nested quote + On June 12 2018 20:01 Koshi wrote: Maybe Ido him short but his posts are the most boring and he just repeats the content of posts others made Yawn I think Koshi is just choosing Mocsta because he seems lynchable based off HF/Kitaman pressure rather than this being his own read. Also I suspect that the Superbia night kill was made by either Koshi or Rels. Voting Koshi. I note that Koshi avoided giving me a read on Kitaman too. | ||
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On June 12 2018 23:40 kitaman27 wrote: I believe the Day4 post was a joke in spite.. about how ppl say, we will save HF to the end, and then as mafia he convinces you to vote town.... self-fulfilling prophecy.Part of rayn's scum read on Palmar is that Palmar had a mafia read on rayn, but wanted to put it off for a later date. Now rayn has a "100% mafia" read on HF and tells us to lynch him day 4?! How isn't that blatantly scummy? People that are defending rayn are focusing too much on whether or not rayn had a valid reason for thinking Palmar was mafia. Palmar's play sucked. It's whatever. That's not what makes rayn look so bad in my opinion. It's the way he waited to go hard against Palmar until later and the way all his views on players in this game are based on whether they town or mafia read him. 1) Palmar scum reads rayn but doesn't want to deal with it during the weekend 2) rayn calls the read in-genuine but leaves it at that 3) Several players including Palmar vote rayn making him the top vote candidate. 4) Palmar is 100% mafia and votes him 5) rayn attacks kita for his vote 6) casts suspicion onto iamp for his vote 7) rayn buddies up to the individuals who are on his side of the wagon 8) rayn survives the lynch 9) Kita is 100% mafia and votes him 10) HF is now 100% mafia and votes him too after a very leading question about "why is he alive" and having the chance to engage him in the thread. Wants to vote for HF day 4 though so why isn't he still pushing kita as the main lynch? He seems more interesting in attacking whoever is directly opposing him at the time. Can you please walk me through why Rayn delaying on Palmar is so clutch to your case? I think its normal to brush off pressure until more join the party. What actually makes that scummy? Rayn as town is known to OMGUS pretty hard, this doesn't seem to be placed in consideration at all for your read. This is another summary list post blown out like a hot air balloon. | ||
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On June 13 2018 00:03 Koshi wrote: Take back comment b4.Kita tries hard but I like it This read is consistent with the comment made about rayn Didnt see this. What makes you say he is trying hard? all i see is surface level content and questions that lead no where... | ||
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On June 13 2018 04:09 kitaman27 wrote: Not valid. Grack actually did a pretty decent job of disputing.Do you find my posts on rayn and mocsta convincing or do you not feel that the arguments are valid? I think you are also misrepresenting the vote intensity stuff.. even if you are pushing a mislynch, mafia dip the toes in all the time before jumping in the pool - thus its equally, if not more, applicable. | ||
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On June 13 2018 05:35 Holyflare wrote: I think we can all agree to that.Sure, his eod points make sense. His early day points don't exist and if they do they're wildly exaggerated or tmi. So the question then becomes, is mafia more likely to have a bad start and snowball . Or is town more likely to have a bad start and snowball. I think option #2 is more likely, especially, as rayn has kept up activity, logic and his new writing style. Can we move on please. Lynches for today should be kitaman, koshi and possibly fuba subject to me checking out a mafia game of his (as I that link grack sent is showing a marked difference in play) | ||
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On June 13 2018 07:34 kitaman27 wrote: thats my case in point.Show nested quote + On June 13 2018 07:12 Mocsta wrote: On June 12 2018 22:40 kitaman27 wrote: What is this even saying in red and bold? Red = scummy, Point in bold is absolutely neutral, yet is written as townish.Alright I'm mostly caught up. I should have more time to play after this evening. I'm not really sure what to make of the superbia shot as his day one was rather lackluster. Tube looks pretty good now that he's entered the thread. Koshi I kinda have a gut read as the townish side of null for #198. Grack's reasoning for his vote pattern was scummy, but the way he admitted to screwing up rather than trying to justify things seems a bit genuine. I don't want to lynch into anyone other than rayn or mocsta this cycle at this point. More on them when I get the chance. What is it... I lean town on him if it wasn't clear. admitting to screwing up things is a completely neutral thing. what does genuine have to do with town? what in particular about that exchange leans town, as being bona fide/genuine/authentic by itself is neutral. | ||
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But this is why you are scum kita... Your forte... the associated analysis.. well, its terrible. See, to me, bar KSC.. rayn has organically shown how those reads were reached in my opinion. This makes your observation a coincidence. Like, we cant get hamstrung on the KSC/superbia thing because IT WAS EARLY GAME. and unfortunately, KSC has done fuck all since so there is no genuine opportunity to ask Rayn (or others) to re-evaluate. | ||
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On June 13 2018 08:16 kitaman27 wrote: That is far-fetching.Show nested quote + On June 13 2018 07:29 Mocsta wrote: rayn has kept up activity, logic and his new writing style. What? He's been a non-factor this cycle. The only the he even mentions me is "kitaman is not town. can you please go and read what i have wrote on him and actually think about it?". Then he catches HF but has done not much at all to get him lynched. Hes in the top 3 posters this cycle surely. Hes definitely less of a non-factor than: tubesock/Koshi/Rels/KSC/iamperfection/Slenderman | ||
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On June 13 2018 08:24 Grackaroni wrote: *BANGS HEAD AGAINST WALL*There's not much to be done when it's just the same people posting all day. I actually think Kitaman is town too now I just want to hear more from Rels and Koshi. fine, i will stop posting for a bit. | ||
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I clearly mention the early game points you refer to. I don't think its heavily relevant unless Rayn still thinks KSC is town - which frankly I would be shocked. To say that Rayn threw out a town read early game as a crucifiable point is you being obtuse; because you haven't demonstrated how that read lead to a scum agenda. Its not like those people were under pressure to be lynched and that was used as a defense, and arguably it wasnt a pocket attempt either. Not everyone is so smart and wise that they are so consistent in their thought process from start to finish to not have contradictions or opposting points of view - unlike you HF of course... | ||
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We dont play the same and frankly you call me mafia every game no matter what i do, because of this. I'm pretty tired of you getting fixated on round pegs that fit round holes, thinking they should be square. I'm going to keep calling out these posts of yours, so get used to it. This is where i am at anyways Holyflare Rayn fuba kitaman27 tubesock koshi Rels KelsierSC iamperfection Grackaroni TheSlenderMan Holy is intention half green as hes the weakest of my town circle. Whilst the timing of fuba claim is questionable, I am inclined to outright believe it because of the observation Grack identified prior. That observation solidifies Grack as confirmed town for me as well. I think HF is focusing on whats in front of him, cos 40% of the game is AFK. But overall I think the game is solved in that list of red and black. In short this cycle: Kitaman27 >> Koshi >> Anyone else. | ||
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On June 14 2018 06:49 TheSlenderMan wrote: if i get lynched.. lynch this guy d3 please.Feeling better about Mocsta after some of the early D2-posts. Tubesock OTOH seemed a bit weird during their discussion. Feeling better about rayn after his words on HF. Not for the content, I'm not able to judge HF's meta or standing here, but the way they are spoken sounds like Town!rayn. Is there a reason no one is interested in Lynching fuba? Haven't read all of D2 but this is stuff I wanted to say rn. End of day is in 70minutes, not 10 minutes, right? | ||
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On June 14 2018 07:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: i am not schizophrenic.....For the record mocsta is playing a very mocstaish game where isnt trying to please anyone or go with the flow. Its like... ugh... his "personality" changes from one to anothrr when he is mafia regardless of what he says and not this game. I have mistakenly read him scum for dumb shit he has done like claiming acum basically and shit... he just is not scum in this game. but i do have a separate personal agenda each time i play. | ||
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On June 14 2018 07:17 Koshi wrote: Obviously you already know the answer to this, so I am expecting that apology.. br0Blah. If Kita is mafia I should apologize to Mocsta. I wont. But the idea will cross my mind. That's annoying. I also note that you are being aggressively rude this game. something wrong in personal life? or that concerned about your teammate getting lynched? thats a genuine question btw if it didnt come across that way. | ||
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fuck you. i want that apology from koshi, and i want to wipe that stupid grin from your face + i just got super tied up with EoFY stuff as well ##Unvote ##Vote: Mocsta | ||
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On June 14 2018 07:28 Koshi wrote: Well its pointlessShow nested quote + On June 14 2018 07:25 Mocsta wrote: HF you know what fuck you. i want that apology from koshi, and i want to wipe that stupid grin from your face + i just got super tied up with EoFY stuff as well ##Unvote ##Vote: Mocsta I cannot apologize for calling you a dumb townie if you go out like a dumb townie. Just an fyi. im dumb for wanting to vote kita im dumb for wanting to vote koshi that only leaves myself.. | ||
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disgraceful really you internet warrior | ||
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if i cant self-vote. i need to vote obtuse koshi i need to distance myself from TSM who wants to koshi. i dont know what to do.... | ||
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On June 14 2018 07:40 iamperfection wrote: do you even have a read this game?people realize there is a reason i dont play anymore right? I'm in a very different situation now. IIRC of all the lurkers, u are the only one to post.. nothing. | ||
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On June 14 2018 06:40 kitaman27 wrote: l0l0l0l0l0l0liamp and slender are going to show up 2 minutes before the deadline and hammer me. I can feel it. On June 14 2018 07:51 kitaman27 wrote: ##unvote ##vote iamp | ||
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On June 14 2018 08:06 Holyflare wrote: acknowledged... vindiction but i prefer koshiLet it be known that I fell for his emotional appeal and wanted to vote iamp. Who is also probably mafia too but still. who came out to play when kitaman was in pressure.. koshi who did koshi target.. kitaman primary voter.. me maybe kita/koshi/iamp is possible too. slenderman also comes to my mind rels is still unknown need to recheck why ksc chose iamp over kitaman too on that note, adios | ||
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On June 15 2018 07:05 Tubesock wrote: pool is def there.Koshi, Rels, KelsierSC covers the last two. It’s still theoretically possible Iamperfection is mafia but I think low chance. i think with the kita lynch, this could be auto? | ||
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ok, pool of 5 i dont htink is auto. makes more sense. | ||
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Slender i cant tell is a hipster thinker or turning bullshit stones for thr sake of it. Def not enough for me to consider this cycle. Iamp is trash on the same level as rels. I dont agree with comments that kita intentionally ignored iamp as buddies. The other side of the WIFOM is that s an analytical player i suspect its within kita spectrum to consider that he would be hammered. Thus if he voted iamp to save homself it would confirm iamp. Instead once i vote myself he releases a case to try and flow to me as his prior scum read. So voting for me today is either ksc or hf. Ksc has followed thread sentiment in a sterile way and didnt seem to really want to lynch kitaman. Theres also the odd joke post early game from kota which could be scum banter. My issue with hf all stems this cycle. Since the flip he isnt actively reevaluating and forcing his will like i know him too when town. Instrad no matter what is happening, he still trys to twist actions into me = scum. No reconsideration. Just subtle "dont forget about mocsta". Or the just ad simplr iamp is scum eith no consideration for what i mentioned prior. | ||
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On June 16 2018 07:19 Tubesock wrote: Show nested quote + On June 14 2018 06:40 kitaman27 wrote: iamp and slender are going to show up 2 minutes before the deadline and hammer me. I can feel it. Why would a mafia say this if one of iamp or Slender are his partners? He’s worried about losing control of the lynch and wants it in a direction he likes. But he can’t control two of the afkers. But why not all the afkers? Like KelsierSC? Ezcellent point and aligns eith what i mentioned too Totally can see kita / hf / ksc as a unit On that note. Its the weekend. Will be back later but aus v france tonight so.... sorry. Priorities | ||
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On June 16 2018 08:13 Holyflare wrote: by accident ,yes you did.Show nested quote + On June 16 2018 07:35 Mocsta wrote: On June 16 2018 07:19 Tubesock wrote: On June 14 2018 06:40 kitaman27 wrote: iamp and slender are going to show up 2 minutes before the deadline and hammer me. I can feel it. Why would a mafia say this if one of iamp or Slender are his partners? He’s worried about losing control of the lynch and wants it in a direction he likes. But he can’t control two of the afkers. But why not all the afkers? Like KelsierSC? Ezcellent point and aligns eith what i mentioned too Totally can see kita / hf / ksc as a unit On that note. Its the weekend. Will be back later but aus v france tonight so.... sorry. Priorities I hammered kita you pleb. You vote swapped tk iamp and it didnt count. The person you are pushing, conveniently | ||
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On June 16 2018 09:50 Holyflare wrote: dud3Show nested quote + On June 16 2018 09:38 Mocsta wrote: Thats as silly an argument as you are purporting for kita avoiding iamp Sometimes regarsleas of desire, things can happen outside our control. I think you've confused me for a lesser mafia player. It could have been as easy as you and kita were arguing how to proceed and he demanded the vote swap to iamp which you did late Theory mongering aside Its actually very impressive the conviction and coordination needed to land 2 votes on the phone in less than 1 minute | ||
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On June 16 2018 10:03 iamperfection wrote: one read this game...are my posts not going through ? One fucking read pls | ||
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Give a read on slender pls | ||
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On June 16 2018 10:18 iamperfection wrote: Yesare you stupid and I am need of your wisdom on slenderman | ||
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No new reasons to add | ||
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Sup Can i get a quick summary Cant believe this exploded in 1 day | ||
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On June 17 2018 19:38 Koshi wrote: awesomeShow nested quote + On June 17 2018 19:27 Mocsta wrote: Im still on p40 Sup Can i get a quick summary Cant believe this exploded in 1 day We sang kumbaya together and lynched mafia. well my last words before i get shot tonight is, keep it up! | ||
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June 17 2018 12:01 GMT
#1000
So yeah Good shot choice Eat dem old wordz | ||
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June 17 2018 12:28 GMT
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On June 17 2018 21:14 Holyflare wrote: so you haven't read past page 40 but know iamp died and was mafia? Who is now guilty of reada not evolving Its not hard to do a filter on calix br0ski But yes still on p40 | ||
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June 17 2018 12:29 GMT
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On June 17 2018 21:17 Holyflare wrote: let me get this really straight for the crowd you "think" i'm the last mafia and killed both my partners and have you cased in a massive wall of text x 100 and you're going to get shot???? Yes hf You have summarised accurately for the crowds | ||
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June 17 2018 13:13 GMT
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On June 17 2018 21:54 Holyflare wrote: can yoy stop being such a try hard.. its night br0so mocsta why exactly am I mafia? | ||
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June 17 2018 13:16 GMT
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Need to reqd the rest Figure out if that influences my reads And im not gonna put that effort in unless im still in tomorrow Afterr having like 2 pages for a day cycle. 10 feels like a chore lol | ||
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June 17 2018 13:17 GMT
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On June 17 2018 22:15 Holyflare wrote: lol make me.I can just make you concede tonight so we don't have to wait 48 hours of you wasting our time Tough words internet warrior | ||
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June 17 2018 13:28 GMT
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See ya @ flip | ||
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June 17 2018 22:06 GMT
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June 17 2018 22:07 GMT
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I made my case in the vote thread | ||
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June 17 2018 22:23 GMT
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On June 18 2018 07:21 Holyflare wrote: Yes, if I'm alive, I have 48hrs to discount everything you have said all game.are you really going to drag this out for another 48 hours just so we can vote you mocsta? you're 0.5 for 4. Wrong on Rayn Copied thread on Kita = 0.25 Copied thread on Iamp = 0.25 Wrong me. Go figure. | ||
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June 17 2018 22:40 GMT
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June 17 2018 22:46 GMT
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Im not any less defensive as mafia then town, I happen to have low interest in this game for a variety of factors, but mainly EoFY timing. However, I will take the tap on the shoulder that you think I like to work with people. Cos most games you case me for exactly that. Damned if you, damned if you dont, amirite! | ||
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June 17 2018 22:50 GMT
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On June 18 2018 07:48 Holyflare wrote: Dude, whilst true in isolation, its a poor argument in context of both alignments.I think the only time I've scum read you incorrectly was the first game you returned to after like a million year gap. Every other time since then I've been pretty damn on point. I think this is my 4th game this year? So far, 1 mafia, 2 town. I believe all 3 games you have scum read me. You definitely tried to get me lynched when I was afk in the last game AS CONFIRMED TOWN. P.S. you were town. So no, comment above is poor. | ||
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June 17 2018 22:57 GMT
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On June 18 2018 07:56 Holyflare wrote: Either me or TL Mafia. Can only be you, TL Mafia is already dead. I must say, its annoying ppl signed onto thtis game last minute to expand from 9 to whatever it was, to then fuck off and not play. | ||
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June 17 2018 22:59 GMT
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June 17 2018 23:26 GMT
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On June 18 2018 08:20 Koshi wrote: Yeah, I think that was fascinating.ggwp Damn we did well. Slow as fuck game with a lot of lynchbaits but we pulled it together quite nicely. My perception from this is that if a majority of the game is lurker, its quite difficult for mafia to blend in the sense that, the town lurkers just have a clear IDGAF factor. e.g. Kelsier. The mafioso feel a need to lurker and feign contribution.. e.g. those scummy as fuck list posts which I believe only kita + iamp did and contributed gravely to sealing their fate. | ||
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June 17 2018 23:34 GMT
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i must say i was a bit surprised how poorly everyone thought of superbia. my recollection is that he is up there (when he puts effort in). | ||
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June 18 2018 00:05 GMT
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June 18 2018 00:17 GMT
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On June 18 2018 09:10 kitaman27 wrote: i signed up to this game to play with you as BOTH TOWN! lolgg wp town Thanks for hosting Calix and Conversion damn you calix! thnx for hosting. | ||
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