[M][N]MafiacalFeast I

On April 08 2018 04:07 Calix wrote:
First, confirmed town

On April 08 2018 07:07 Holyflare wrote:
Vivax my king who shall we lynch?

On April 08 2018 09:36 Damdred wrote:
I think gb is town btw

On April 08 2018 10:21 Damdred wrote:


Yeah but why is it defensive if he is busy irl, thats kinda a meh read from you vivax.

But really I feel like his thing hes doing with the thing he noticed about calix and dragging ever and rayn into it just seems town to me. Town for GB he generally cant fake enthusiasm like that as scum by my recollevtion.

Vivax was scum-leaning GB until Damdred made a point about why it isn't scummy, then Vivax changed his mind. But then why would you say "yeah he's town"? That's not the response you'd make if someone had changed your mind.

On April 08 2018 20:47 Calix wrote:


Came across as too 'certain'. It reads like you already thought he was town and were just making that explicit. If you had been convinced you'd be more likely to say "yeah good point", or acknowledge if Damdred had changed your mind, or give your own reasons for town reading GB, etc.



If you 'weren't scum leaning GB particularly' then what made you change that into a "yeah he's town" response?

On April 09 2018 00:58 ExO_ wrote:



Starting to read the thread and this is the first thing I see. GB asking Rayn for a read when he hasnt even been inthe thread yet. I don’t buy the idea he just decided to ask an opinion of Rayn in the hopes he’d come into the thread. I think he heard from Rayn in a QT and slipped with this post

On April 09 2018 01:05 Calix wrote:
ExO_ discussing QT slips? Confirmed not hacked.



Terrible argument.

I don't understand why Vivax randomly pops in to question rayn about time-stamps and then fucks off.

Or the actual reasons why rayn "thinks" I am mafia. Yes, there are some smatterings but there is no case as far as I can tell.

Or why rayn is defending himself against "never lying about something like that" (???). Half of rayn's posts seem divorced from anything going on in the thread. I can hardly tell what he is referring to half the time since he seems to mix up who he's talking to when he responds to people.

Basically I do not understand these two and I don't know what they're trying to do this game. Which makes me want to lynch them. Pretty simple stuff.

On April 09 2018 01:11 Calix wrote:


You threatening to scum-read me, Vivax? Because it sure looks it.

On April 09 2018 17:19 n00bKing wrote:

Independent of anything else, this for sure is true. I had already noticed that his posts are more difficult to follow than anyone else's, before reading this from you. And that's with me reading the thread chronologically; I'm sure it'll be even worse if anyone tries to look into his filter later in the game.

If he's Town, then the fact that his posts will later be almost impossible for other Town players to look at, read, and understand, would not be great for his win condition. But if he's Scum, the fact that his posts will later be indecipherable for Town players would not hurt his win condition at all.

On April 09 2018 21:27 Calix wrote:


What game are you reading? rayn's early posts were not 'very coherent'. Multiple players have agreed with this sentiment.

If I was annoying rayn for ""false"" reasons then how am I town? O_______o

On April 09 2018 16:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:

This is actually the most terrible single post in thread:
- follow thread sentiment, check
- make up your own reason so you look like you're doing something, check
- doesn't make any sense at all, check

On April 09 2018 21:50 Holyflare wrote:


I reported this post for being too mafia orientated.

On April 09 2018 21:55 Holyflare wrote:
The last like 5 posts from vivax are all sureties about reads that look really out of place from what I'd expect vivax to be at right now. Hard defend rayn. Pick out a rayn post and defend exo.

On April 09 2018 21:57 Holyflare wrote:


Let's just do this instead

##vote vivax

On April 09 2018 22:03 Holyflare wrote:
I don't question the reads you have and I'm sure you have reasons for them but they look very out of place and unintuitive.

On April 09 2018 22:05 currentlyhomeless wrote:


bro there’s this thing called a vote

sheep me

On April 09 2018 22:22 Calix wrote:


So I've gone from 'town with false reasons to attack rayn' to 'potential ballsy mafia when if one of your reads is wrong', have I? You have fun with that one.

I checked your filter to see why n00b was still in there, because you initially voted for him when he hadn't posted, and your reason for scum-reading him sucks. He made some comments about rayn being hard to understand, therefore he's mafia?

On April 09 2018 22:48 n00bKing wrote:

How do you know he's Town? That seems like something you forgot to mention. Along with you forgetting to mention THAT he's Town, til now. You passed out townreads to multiple players, but he hadn't been one of them.

On April 09 2018 23:31 currentlyhomeless wrote:
hmm I need to sleep but there is no one worth sheeping in this game cause HF is scum

sheep me pls

dont disappoint

On April 09 2018 21:56 Vivax wrote:


Let's play a game then, you tell me where you expect me to be and why and I tell you where I am actually at.

On April 09 2018 23:47 Calix wrote:


Your rayn sentence is weird. He's currently voting for Eversince. It's a bit odd that you qualify rayn being 'sheepable' by saying you wouldn't vote for ExO_, the person who rayn is most likely to switch his vote to.

I also do not know why you think ExO_ is town aside from "too bad to be scum" (?). What did you make of his latest posts?

On April 09 2018 23:50 Holyflare wrote:
The comment about me voting you to derail a mislynch on my partner when eversince was the lead wagon who you didn't even scum read is an example of you just flinging shit that you haven't thought about and pretty much confirms you as mafia to me.

On April 09 2018 23:53 Calix wrote:


If you're 'trying to end up on X' with rayn then that's not you thinking rayn is sheepable, is it?

And why is ExO_ a no-go? Are you ever going to explain your reads? Because I'm this close to parking my vote on you forever.

On April 09 2018 01:02 Vivax wrote:


You can be town for this post. But I don't agree with it.

On April 09 2018 21:53 Vivax wrote:


I was actually thinking that the argument is too bad to come from scum. I'd be ashamed if I used such a line of thought as scum. I'd rather not post anything tee hee. So I of arrived to the opposite conclusion.

On April 10 2018 00:02 Holyflare wrote:


You either think Eversince is mafia with me, which you have not posited once other than your aforementioned post, or you're just struggling to back pedal your stance because you know it doesn't make sense. There was no town thought process behind what you said since you did not call and have not called Eversince mafia.

On April 10 2018 00:09 Holyflare wrote:


Everybody not currently voting vivax, read this post. Explain to me with the team of noobking/skynx/hf that vivax espoused how he makes the bolded when he never said Eversince is mafia (even called her town) ever.

Think carefully and put yourself in a mindset where you believe this comment.

What is the town mindset that makes you able to say the bolded? It's that Eversince is mafia. Which he never says and has never alluded to.

What is the mafia mindset? To try and shovel shit in my direction with rhetoric.

A town vivax would NEVER come up with this sentence UNLESS he thought Eversince was mafia, which he never did!

On April 10 2018 00:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Vivax who is the "teammate up for lynch " in skynx/noobking/hf team and why did uou make that post?

On April 10 2018 00:24 Calix wrote:


If it was 'regardless of who was up for lynch' then why add a comment suggesting HF's push was because of circumstances relating to who was up for lynch?

On April 10 2018 00:25 Calix wrote:
Talk about something better then.

On April 10 2018 00:26 Holyflare wrote:



That doesn't make the slightest bit of sense!! Why would I go all in if Eversince is not my partner??

You can't backtrack it. You say I'm going all in because my partners are close to being figured out or my partner is being lynched while none of the names you mention are up for lynch and you DON'T scum read the wagon!

On April 10 2018 00:27 Calix wrote:


No you don't. You could just tell us to fuck right off before blowing us away with some intelligent scum-reads.

On April 10 2018 00:28 Holyflare wrote:


You haven't voted skynx, you never voted skynx and you made no push on noobking that had any traction.

You also literally just stated "it's regardless of the names I posted" but now you're posting names again.

On April 10 2018 00:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax if youre town you dont need me to prove you are town and honeatly i am not that sure anymore.

On April 10 2018 00:43 Oatsmaster wrote:

That's not how this works

On April 09 2018 21:55 Holyflare wrote:
The last like 5 posts from vivax are all sureties about reads that look really out of place from what I'd expect vivax to be at right now. Hard defend rayn. Pick out a rayn post and defend exo.

On April 10 2018 00:48 Holyflare wrote:


I am genuinely not being an arse. I see you make reads like rayn being shiny and "never mafia" which sets off alarm bells because you are ALWAYS wary of people like rayn and you just came off a game where he was top town and mafia (yes you called him mafia). That's the first read of many(!) that I don't think you make. Your reads on tubesock/calix/Eversince are also flaky as fuck and you basically give no opinion on Eversince even when she's the leading wagon. There's also your gb/damdred read which I thought looked far too quick and elaborate excuses.

It's all these town reads that I can't get past.

I think your scum read on noobking is actually good though.

On April 10 2018 00:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
Vivax lynch is ehhh.

Seems like typical inconsistent town vivax

On April 10 2018 00:58 Oatsmaster wrote:

Because you think that ever since is town but also think that skynx' scum partner is the leading wagon which also happens to be ever.

On April 09 2018 16:44 n00bKing wrote:

So it's Kush that blows all the smurfs? I knew he looked familiar....


@Holyflare: I see currentlyhomeless already called you out for the fake vote against him. Care to explain?

@currentlyhomeless: Have anything you might use to convince me that Holyflare would flip red? Seems like you're saying he's scum because he felt threatened by your randomly-generated vote against him. Is there more to it than that?

I'll probably read some more of this thread now.

On April 10 2018 01:06 GlowingBear wrote:
Oats, vote skynx with me or I'll have to consolidate on Vivax

On April 10 2018 01:09 GlowingBear wrote:


I won't be here in 10 minutes, that's why I'm concerned about consolidating.

I've talked about you plenty of times.

On April 10 2018 01:14 n00bKing wrote:

Except that it WAS answered. So...you know...there's that.

(Holyflare explained that he was unaware of the existence of a voting thread, and that his in-thread votes should be taken seriously. The next time he voted against someone, he posted it in the voting thread.)

On April 10 2018 01:32 n00bKing wrote:

I assume you've found your Day 1 lynch then: Fecalfeast.

Alright, so duplicate roles are possible. If a Gunsmith happens along who hadn't seen Eversince's claim yet (lets say Damdred, for example) then there would be very minimal value in performing the counterclaim.

On the upside, no such thing as a mafia Gunsmith. If Eversince is able to pass a gun to who we tell her to pass it to, she's verified Town. There also cannot be a mafia Jailer to stop her from passing a gun, so she'll only be stopped by a mafia roleblocker.

I randomly feel like there's a decent chance of there being a mafia roleblocker in the game, so even if her claim is real instead of fake, I don't necessarily expect a gun to get passed on Night 1. But even though she's a better lynch now than before the claim, I'm inclined to at least give her the opportunity.

There are still 2 votes on her, but unless someone disagrees with the above, I think those votes should move off, instead of being added to.

On April 10 2018 01:23 Calix wrote:


Isn't this just asking why I think Vivax is mafia? My current opinion is that his posts are bland and uninteresting. He hasn't said anything engaging. He has an entire scum-team theory yet I do not give a damn about ANY of his scum-reads.

Instead of pushing his reads, he takes on this defeatist attitude about convincing others to vote for his reads.

He called me town despite saying I was pushing rayn for false reasons (which is not a town tell ever) and never explained that despite me asking him about 39580670 times.

His reaction to being called out about the "HF pushing me because a mafia's on the line" quote looks like flailing scum to me.

I also don't get why he's getting emotional. Which is not necessarily scummy by itself but it's not helping me think he's town.

On April 10 2018 01:45 Calix wrote:


Why didn't you clear this up earlier, may I ask?

On April 10 2018 02:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I really dont like Vivax lynch. If i have to i will save him by voting Skynx but i dont really think he is mafia either. I would suggest strongly against voting for Calix. I have no idea about what noobking is because i dont rrally feel like he has said much anything.

Glowingbear started being terr8ble but thats probably town terrible.

I still want to lynch exo for what i have said earlier.
##unvote
##vote exo_

On April 10 2018 02:03 Skynx wrote:
Hi, I'm at page 16 right now.


I thought my case was fine at the time it was posted (4-5 pages of content).

It's a bit late but rayn and GB can be town for now yes, as they seem to be picked up the game.

On April 10 2018 03:19 Skynx wrote:

I don't like this. You were around when i wrote this case and could pick up on all the points here at the time. Instead you waited an entire day to bring up again why my case is bad? After half of the thread said the same thing?

On April 10 2018 03:26 Skynx wrote:

You really don't have to be a savant to read the thread and come up with the conclusions you did in this case lol. You are parroting Tube, GB, rayn and i don't know who else who called my case shit.

On April 10 2018 04:15 Holyflare wrote:


I'm open to lynch anyone else if you convince me otherwise.

On April 10 2018 04:17 Holyflare wrote:


Have you even tried to convince me on someone else?

On April 10 2018 04:20 n00bKing wrote:
So, Skynx has a very simple path to self-preservation, which is just to vote against Vivax. He votes against me instead, which (regardless of Vivax's own alignment) just SCREAMS "I know someone has my back."

On April 10 2018 04:22 Skynx wrote:

Lol what how do i look more town here?

On April 10 2018 04:51 Calix wrote:


Nah. I think static votes is a bad sign. If mafia wanted to save Vivax then all they have to do is put some votes on Skynx, or me, or n00b (do you think there's any mafia on his train aside from Vivax btw?). And now that n00b's train DID take off, I'm going to look at that sometime this night.

n00b's train happened in like five seconds. Not much time to really take it in.

On April 10 2018 08:21 Eversince wrote:
When have I called you paranoid???

On April 10 2018 08:25 Eversince wrote:
I think your town, I don't think all your reads are right but we just lynched someone I thought would flip red. He was town so I can be wrong too r.r. I think that you being open about saying why you draw conclusion that you do probably makes you town. Even if I don't agree with the read. You're not trying to loll people into following an incorrect read with it. Thus 'if it's wrong' town/scum [t] vs making the same play as mafia.

On April 11 2018 01:29 Oatsmaster wrote:

Who are the obvious townies he is attacking other than ever?

On April 11 2018 05:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
hey rayn, lynch today is who?

On April 11 2018 09:21 currentlyhomeless wrote:


I bet my left nut that n00bking was kush

hell I’ll bet HF’s life that n00bking was kush how about that

On April 11 2018 09:31 Tubesock wrote:


Do HF and you mostly fight it out like this every game? I don’t play often but I remember two of my last few games you two did this and were both town. One of the games you were blue, fakeclaimed, he CC’d as vigi (actually was) and town killed you. Basically, is this not very normal so I should look deeper into this or not? I think you’re both town.

On April 11 2018 09:31 Eversince wrote:
Ok, let me try to break this logic down for you then.

I gave the gun to Rayn

(town!Rayn) Shoots somebody.
(mafia!Rayn) Shoots town.

The fact there was no double kp and Rayn says he did not get the gun confirms Rayn town. If Rayn was mafia they could of doubled kp last night. If their is ever double kp from this point on it is either SK or Rayn is mafia. That is silly to risk in mafia!Rayn so Rayn is town.

On April 11 2018 09:39 Eversince wrote:
I mistoke my role pm that's why I didn't think I had one. The fact there was not double kp and Rayn didn't get it cofirms him town for me. It will confirm both of us after one of us flips.

On April 11 2018 09:59 currentlyhomeless wrote:


are you scum this game???

ever claims rayn is confirmed because only one person died n1

this is way different from “because rayn doesn’t have a gun”

it means ever doesn’t know how the gunsmith role works. which means they aren’t gunsmith

1500% scum

claims to not have a gun then backtracks when called out on it

On April 09 2018 22:33 Eversince wrote:
If I live the night I will either give my gun to Rayn or Calix.
Probably Calix because I like her reads.

On April 11 2018 10:25 Oatsmaster wrote:

I dont see how scum doesnt do all of this too.

On April 11 2018 10:32 Tubesock wrote:


Those could be true realities. I think she’s town GS and is derping. Lots of townies derp massively concerning their claims. Scum generally have polished ones.

On April 11 2018 10:34 Oatsmaster wrote:

Dont make me laugh

On April 11 2018 10:41 Eversince wrote:
TS what's Calix done to get everyone so rallied up? I caught up but she seemed ok to me. Did I miss something?

On April 11 2018 10:44 Eversince wrote:
Meh, I don't think so she probably just got busy with the start of the week was what I was thinking.

On April 11 2018 10:51 Eversince wrote:
I don't like Oats at all. I don't like CH except I feel ok with the exchange we just had. But it's been what he's done a few times. I'm sitting on it for now because I don't want to OMGUS. GB fell off the radar. which might be rl (assumed). Damdred's been non exsistant this game. The problem I'm having this game is a lot of the active players I don't feel like are mafia. Which leaves me to lynch into the people that I do know that feel like they should be doing more (Screw meta reads.) or lynching in-actives.

On April 11 2018 22:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay. That was not what i was talking about. I was only talking about D2. I will look into it tonight when i am home.

On a sidenote today is the first day i am happy at work this week because everything isnt going completely retardedly. <3

On April 12 2018 07:23 currentlyhomeless wrote:


yo wtf who exactly caught ES??

aight vivax I no longer like you, clearly not reading

On April 12 2018 07:26 Holyflare wrote:


Of course it matters what the shit? If someone finds an inconsistency like that then you want to know who does it first because you are likely to town read them??

On April 12 2018 07:30 Holyflare wrote:


You town read him originally for pointing out the inconsistencies you called me mafia for pointing out.

On April 12 2018 07:37 Holyflare wrote:
That you SCUM READ me for.

On April 12 2018 07:45 currentlyhomeless wrote:
holy shit what is this game just sheep me already. why are people still talking about whether i am kush or sicklicker or blazinghand? if you read the 1st 2nd and 3rd words of 3 of my posts you will see who I am

half the players are playing for scum win condition

last few pages are just wtf go to n2 this is a waste of space

i’m gonna go wash my genitals now since i have to go to work

eversince is scum since they didnt read daypost but knew only 1 nk. when ever flips scum we kill exo cause the posts sound smart but the conclsion is scummy

On April 12 2018 08:35 Holyflare wrote:
So what exactly am I mafia for now?

On April 12 2018 23:39 Skynx wrote:
So that logic works for clearing you but not me?

On April 12 2018 23:44 Skynx wrote:
Actually don't worry. Even without rayn and homeless stuff I believe you fabricated skynx scumlean and damdred townread out of thin air so i think that makes you mafia.

On April 12 2018 23:47 Vivax wrote:


You had the same amount of votes but were not the hammer cause I got there first. Either way you have a point there now that I look at the count again cause a vote on me would have made more sense if you were mafia.

On April 13 2018 00:07 Holyflare wrote:
Yeah all those people lynching es sure are mafia with es.

On April 13 2018 00:50 Oatsmaster wrote:

This whole team makes like noooo sense wtf vivax

On April 13 2018 01:31 Oatsmaster wrote:

WHY IS HF MAFIA WHEN HE DIDNT ACTUALLY WANNA LYNCH YOU?!?>

On April 13 2018 01:38 Holyflare wrote:
I could have easily made a hard push and convinced someone to vote you??

On April 13 2018 01:43 Oatsmaster wrote:

errrrrrrrrrr no?

On April 13 2018 01:52 Oatsmaster wrote:

you're kidding right? town hf gets off on people thinking he is town and sheeping him

On April 13 2018 02:01 Oatsmaster wrote:

just gets really mad people arent listening to him

On April 13 2018 02:06 Oatsmaster wrote:

I mean, he doesnt care why people are townreading him as any alignment obviously

On March 22 2018 05:18 Holyflare wrote:
I would ABSOLUTELY lynch mocsta for keeping me in a don't know pile but scum reading noobking who I fecking cased.

On April 13 2018 02:21 Oatsmaster wrote:

thats actually not a townread?

On April 13 2018 02:44 Skynx wrote:
homeless filter is so meh, I dunno how ppl are townreading him.

He could be a matured chezinu

On April 13 2018 03:04 Skynx wrote:

Yeah but what if the gut read is wrong and you could've lynched mafia following reason and logic?

On April 13 2018 03:08 Skynx wrote:

I think you're the only one who's acknowledging that

On April 13 2018 03:34 Skynx wrote:
Scum don't care these days and either way it doesn't matter. It is well within the realm of possibilities that town can do stupid stuff like that and you might aswell be like "lol ok i guess i hammer n00b". Plus i was clueless at eod and it looks more and more like you took advantage of it. You're the only one that sees d1 flip as confirming you as town. I suggest you take a walk or something to free your mind.

On April 13 2018 04:57 Calix wrote:
Hey, I'm back.

I think town just loses here. Because I die D3 and then town goes into triple LYLO. So this isn't great.

To be perfectly honest with you guys, I do not really want to play. But if I do not then people will be tilted post-flip for not trying harder so I feel obliged to put in some effort.

I know that the only viable D2 wagons were town. And I am the only townie who knows this. I'm probably going to look at the Eversince progressions that people had. Mostly because people didn't really 'change' their reads on me. Aside from HF, rayn (I think) putting aside their scum-read on me. Off the top of my head, I remember ExO's reads shifting on ES when I was catching up.

I think there is at least one mafia in the people defending Eversince using bad WIFOM.

Tubesock is possible. I read his case and all he did was regurgitate points that HF made on N1.

ExO probably mafia regardless of Eversince's alignment just because he literally spent most of D2 defending Eversince for bad reasons.

Oats looks townie for sticking to his guns and not having retarded read progressions but I need to reread him.

I know Skynx posted some reads but I don't recall them so I also have to filter him.

On April 13 2018 05:42 Holyflare wrote:
Also, just to add insult to injury, if someone had voted on the vivax wagon I would have absolutely maintained my vote on him to lynch him rather than switching to homeless.

On April 13 2018 06:29 Oatsmaster wrote:

is this the part where you call me scum with HF?

On April 13 2018 06:45 Oatsmaster wrote:

the part where hf is talking about his actions this game compared to me talking about his hypothetical actions in a game where hes mafia?

On April 13 2018 01:31 Oatsmaster wrote:

WHY IS HF MAFIA WHEN HE DIDNT ACTUALLY WANNA LYNCH YOU?!?>

On April 13 2018 01:43 Oatsmaster wrote:

errrrrrrrrrr no?

On April 13 2018 05:42 Holyflare wrote:
Also, just to add insult to injury, if someone had voted on the vivax wagon I would have absolutely maintained my vote on him to lynch him rather than switching to homeless.

On April 13 2018 06:58 Oatsmaster wrote:

so is HF still mafia or you dropped that because you "caught" me

On April 13 2018 07:10 Oatsmaster wrote:

that makes no sense

On April 13 2018 06:51 Vivax wrote:
HF confirmed my version you have BEEN ATTACKING FOR ZERO REASONS unless you either are 1) scum with HF or 2) filled with TMI to the brim that makes you defend townies for the worst of reasons.

On April 13 2018 07:13 Oatsmaster wrote:

that 3 other people agreed with me?
man, thats such a strong argument

On April 13 2018 07:14 Oatsmaster wrote:

Im telling you that reading ES as town isnt scummy?

On April 13 2018 07:21 Oatsmaster wrote:

So if mafia HF is seeing that, he sees that ok, noobking is town, i dont really care if he dies so then ill just try to lynch CH for no particular reason?
It makes 0 sense.