Yeah but why is it defensive if he is busy irl, thats kinda a meh read from you vivax.

But really I feel like his thing hes doing with the thing he noticed about calix and dragging ever and rayn into it just seems town to me. Town for GB he generally cant fake enthusiasm like that as scum by my recollevtion.

Yea he's town and you can be town too for this response. Don't see why you wouldn't at least partially agree with me if you were mafia here.

Vivax

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April 08 2018 11:37 GMT

#181

Vivax was scum-leaning GB until Damdred made a point about why it isn't scummy, then Vivax changed his mind. But then why would you say "yeah he's town"? That's not the response you'd make if someone had changed your mind.

Why not?

I also wasn't scum leaning GB particularly. I found his post there defensive and that's it. Damdred came out with a hard townread and I gave him something that would possibly oppose his view, and I found his reaction townie all around. Although with fresh eyes today it probably doesn't mean that much. Was just going off the assumption that mafia Damdred would keep himself the option open for a GB lynch. Will roll with it for the time being though.

Vivax

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April 08 2018 11:58 GMT

#183

On April 08 2018 20:47 Calix wrote:

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Came across as too 'certain'. It reads like you already thought he was town and were just making that explicit. If you had been convinced you'd be more likely to say "yeah good point", or acknowledge if Damdred had changed your mind, or give your own reasons for town reading GB, etc.

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If you 'weren't scum leaning GB particularly' then what made you change that into a "yeah he's town" response?

The enthusiasm damdred mentioned, you can add the bit where he said he will wait for what rayn say. Though I remember GB as being able to be quite pushy as mafia, his posts come with a more negative tone to them when he is.

I think it's quite easy to follow how my attention shifted through those pages. But I'll explicate it in a wild salad of summary: GB somewhere in null land, peaces out. See post from HF about posted from android. Think it's defensive but don't want to scumread him for it alone. Damdred posts townread. Confront him with possible argument for mafia. Nope Vivax. Gloss a bit over GB filter. Agree with GB being town very bluntly worded. Also thinking about what it means for Damdred from that exchange. Damdred can be town too cause not waffly when given opportunity.

Vivax

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April 08 2018 12:09 GMT

#186

Nah haven't done much yet. I'm bit puzzled over what rayn meant with townie dumb on Vivax in one of his first posts. Otherwise I haven't really started scumhunting much yet. But no worries, I will deliver.

I heavily dislike the fact that rayn decided to judge me on paranoia alone though. Cause paranoia means that I scumread someone who is mostly townie looking and as seen from last game that doesn't mean I'm paranoid. It means that I believe a mafia is being widely townread. Since when is going against the grain paranoia?

Vivax

22415 Posts

April 08 2018 14:48 GMT

#203

Rayn can you quote posts from your phone?

Vivax

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April 08 2018 14:55 GMT

#205

The post time is shown while you quote posts tho, so not sure why you said you can't check the time difference.

MIght be dwelling on something insignificant here but idk why you said it cause it's untrue?

Vivax

22415 Posts

April 08 2018 15:23 GMT

#207

Just read calixs case on rayn.

The "you apologize to me while thinking I'm mafia" seems stretchy.
Claiming that rayn doesn't think she's mafia cause he didn't vote her yet is also stretchy.

Reads very overeager to me to call people mafia. But don't think that makes her mafia, also possibly just very sprinkly townie. Why does it make her mafia instead rayn?

Also abandoning this train of thought on your timestamp question cause you could be lying or saying the truth either way.

Vivax

22415 Posts

April 08 2018 16:02 GMT

#215

On April 09 2018 00:58 ExO_ wrote:

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Starting to read the thread and this is the first thing I see. GB asking Rayn for a read when he hasnt even been inthe thread yet. I don’t buy the idea he just decided to ask an opinion of Rayn in the hopes he’d come into the thread. I think he heard from Rayn in a QT and slipped with this post

You can be town for this post. But I don't agree with it.

Vivax

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April 08 2018 16:06 GMT

#218

On April 09 2018 01:05 Calix wrote:
ExO_ discussing QT slips? Confirmed not hacked.

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Terrible argument.

I don't understand why Vivax randomly pops in to question rayn about time-stamps and then fucks off.

Or the actual reasons why rayn "thinks" I am mafia. Yes, there are some smatterings but there is no case as far as I can tell.

Or why rayn is defending himself against "never lying about something like that" (???). Half of rayn's posts seem divorced from anything going on in the thread. I can hardly tell what he is referring to half the time since he seems to mix up who he's talking to when he responds to people.

Basically I do not understand these two and I don't know what they're trying to do this game. Which makes me want to lynch them. Pretty simple stuff.

???

Vivax

22415 Posts

April 08 2018 16:07 GMT

#219

It's a thin border between going guns blazing and openly shit-flinging, Calix.

Vivax

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April 08 2018 16:22 GMT

#223

On April 09 2018 01:11 Calix wrote:

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You threatening to scum-read me, Vivax? Because it sure looks it.

Considering you are spreading false facts about me 1. Only talking to rayn about timestamps and 2. Me fucking off while I'm in the thread at the same time it's very tempting.

Vivax

22415 Posts

April 08 2018 16:29 GMT

#225

But if I don't approach it emotionally, I think you'd be playing a pretty bad scum game considering that you are not really attempting to be friends with the entire thread and stay under the radar. I'd go with the likelihood of you being town as higher. I'd feel reassured if your blatant misreps were some form of reaction fishing.

If I could pinpoint players who fitted the profile above btw it would be tubesock and Eversince. I'd like to see more from them.

Vivax

22415 Posts

April 08 2018 20:15 GMT

#266

I propose to get a wagon on n00bking going to motivate him

Vivax

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April 09 2018 12:07 GMT

#494

I'm catching up would appreciate if thread didn't go instantly empty once I'm done.

Highlights from the reread as well:

Don't like Skynx entry.

Tonal argument: His way of going in is very different from the rest of the thread up until that point and reads almost excessively tryhard to me. Entire post looks like he just didn't know what to do besides forced scumhunting.

Content arguments:
Also I don't believe he actually would believe to have caught skynx just off timestamps as town. His rayn points are all meta and don't leave any wiggle room for a rayn town argument when he said he doesn't post more from work.

Basically skynx entrance screams all lazy mafia trying to look tryhard.

Moving on.