EPTOn March 21 2018 17:47 Holyflare wrote:
Don't really wanna lynch noob over other names that I haven't created a narrative for yet.
Don't really wanna lynch noob over other names that I haven't created a narrative for yet.
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Alakaslam
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On March 21 2018 17:57 rsoultin wrote: -facedesks- And this is yet another reason why I say 'ppl probably won't see what I see'. Managing expectations. If I don't get anyone to talk to me about slam my head might explode >< Tell me I am not the only one who knows about his chupazi game theory? You’re not, I’m surprised you don’t see the people sleeping you. They aren’t discussing because they think you’re certain. In fact you sound certain to me until this. | ||
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Alakaslam
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On March 21 2018 18:01 n00bKing wrote: So...the answer to my question of "how do you get him lynched, while saying that other people won't see what you're scumreading him for?" is...what, this? "Doesn't mean he can't be lynched for other reasons that I might find less compelling but others like." Otherwise, no, I don't see how you expect to get him lynched, by doing what you're doing. Which is why I said that it doesn't really seem like you care whether he's the lynch. (Or whether I am. Or who it is.) Yeah, people who don't care who get lynched are more likely to be scum. agree And yeah, people who are certain they've got the right D1 lynch are bad/dumb, because they're probably wrong. agree Town players should care who the lynch is, and try to get their preferred target into the Noose. agree And then they should expect to be wrong, NO and see that player flip Town. They should not prefer the lynch then. Say what you mean, not demonstrative hyperbole. Yes, if people reach higher understanding, they should be open to being wrong as it is rather likely. But they should not vote for something they expect to be wrong, as that is playing into scum’s hands. They should vote for who they expect to be scum, but be willing to consider a world where they are wrong due to the likelihood of that. But I was dead certain of your alignment quite early last game, more certain than I usually ever am, and I was also quite right. But since I did it so early, I purposely second guessed myself a LOT. Did that really improve your opinion of me? Or did it give you opportunity to manipulate my thinking into almost lynching Holyflare instead? Narcissism is really unhealthy and your next step toward the same rep here that you have on SB and elsewhere is basically ditching Narcissuses. Because both the math AND the game mechanics work together to give you a Day 1 mislynch. Sure- but never tell Han Solo the odds. Nor me, or most of TL Mafia. It’s like playing Star Wars battlefront; Heros and Villains is a very different experience from the main game proper. And unless someone on the scum team seriously BOTCHES the Phase, a mislynch is exactly what you'll get. hold on now we are the site with the good scum players. ... Well, or I’m wrong and everyone on your site is more rigid to combat the amazing potential scum play? Idk. I was meta lynched too early. | ||
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On March 21 2018 18:03 rsoultin wrote: yes! that is exactly it! thank you I wish I could say which game he's explained it in. I think more than one. But yes. You will only be able to discredit my new word once | ||
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On March 21 2018 18:06 KelsierSC wrote: It was ... a joke. You typically go super hard down a rabbit hole of nonsense. I feel my genius is unappreciated I really like noobking , I can actually understand what he writes which elevates him above half the game. I have no reason to lynch him other than HF says he is playing like some other scum game. I don't like using that argument and I enjoy his posting so not lynching. I think there is a bit of a gang up here on NK and I don't like it, definitely scum in the people voting him. @DF I gave reasons why I found the persona scummy, Then I noticed you had left exo off your town list after calling him smart to start with. I found that scummy at the time but I didn't go hard in the paint trying to lynch you. I just made early game observations. I questioned you about it and your response that exo went down in your estimation fits with the timeline because that is when he starts defending his moosy vote and not understanding my post. I'm not holding that against you anymore. I already gave an explanation for the dis vote, exo's inability to read the game is disappointing but not without precedent exo just didn't see the explanation. You saw it but didn't buy it, so what is your problem with the explanation exactly? The way I caught you last time we played was I started pressuring you and you went full retard trying to OMGUS me and call me scum in return. Seems to be happening again. My lynch pool is moosy,df,dis and slam as a last resort. Everyone is saying exo is town and our fight was TvT , upsetting if true but If I try and get a lynch going everyone will just say he is stupid not scum and we get nowhere. Slam you took up an entire page with unintelligible nonsense. You’re lazy. But I won’t call you a damn fool because I’m self aware now. I am a bad communicator. | ||
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On March 22 2018 03:38 Holyflare wrote: Why is he not scum? I’m catching up. He just isn’t is what I have for now. | ||
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On March 21 2018 18:24 Koshi wrote: Not many can understand a prophet his divination. But we as mere mortals can only follow the direction his words lead us. However, we should not believe every spirit blindly, but test the spirits whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out in this world. Amen. Let us go forward and give test: I confess Jesus Christ is Lord of heaven and Earth. Go | ||
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On March 21 2018 18:44 n00bKing wrote: I don't have any context on whether it's suspicious for Alakaslam to think that "lazy mafia" are pushing him early game, instead of saving him to be mislynched late game. I DO find it odd that he so confidently named me town in this game. When people voting against me (like HF and Moosy) say they're doing so on the basis that I'm playing the same as the last game. They're right, I'm playing the same as the last game, because I just played my town game for 95% of the last game. HF doesn't seem to know anything about my Town game, and doesn't care. He's just "blah blah, same as other game, blah." Yet while I AGREE with the people voting against me that I'm playing the same as the last game, Alakaslam correctly labels me Town in this game, after all his "classic scum m8" crap from the previous game. Now yes, I pushed him off of his scumread on me in the prior game, and even had him voting against MY lynch target, eventually. But even so, the speed and accuracy of his townread on me here is cause for pause. However, I can't help you lynch him, cuz then he'll OMGUS me, and then once Slam gives the go-ahead, Koshi will lynch me with the heat of a thousand suns. And then I flip town, and people are sad. :D (In all seriousness, Slam is probably fine as a fallback option, with the likes of Rels. From your recent "remove from the lynch pool" list, the only one I disagree with is Rels. I would add to that "remove from the lynch pool" list by putting Tictock in it. I don't have any interest in lynching him. Oh, and me! I should be removed from it too. hehe. I also am not too excited about lynching Conversion, though he's been almost entirely useless, it seems. I can at least hope that he might be useful later. I can't hold out much hope for that in the case of like...Fecalfeast.) You’re blind. Gonna abandon this. | ||
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On March 21 2018 18:50 rsoultin wrote: @NK, don't agree on conv, but your slam point is solid. @KSC...I still don't remember reading his filter. Would have to check the filters of the people voting him. Which I'll probably do, but honestly I don't want to lynch him anyway because: - viva read feels genuine to me <- this was my hesitance earlier - focus on finding scum in those scumreading him feels super natural from town - he's actually trying to engage me on slam <- entirely selfish reason Removing disinfo from the lynch pool You know what? Fuck you folk, I’m out. Lynch the slot if you want. | ||
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That being said I haven’t read anything since the “here is the size of slam’s box” bs. Therefore, well, hi. | ||
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On March 24 2018 03:20 Palmar wrote: Does anyone know why slam ragequit? I read the last posts of his filter but I don’t really understand what pissed him off Yeah I can explain it now that I’m back. It’s a question of IRL shit already making me pissy and n00bking claiming it was his badassery leading to me questioning my read on him last game, “after” I detailed the reasons for that Because I was pissed, I didn’t consider that even though I read it after writing my shit Doesn’t mean He wrote that After I wrote my shit :E | ||
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On March 24 2018 03:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: Palmar are you around tomorrow? It would make me glad to scumhunt with someone who actually listens to me. I’ll listen, what’s up | ||
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On March 24 2018 04:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: No you dont. I said tomorrow. Ok | ||
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On March 24 2018 04:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am starting to shutting down the factory soon and then im gonna get drunk so no more reading until tomorrow. Fair enough | ||
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Ness- but used to be Peach. For Project M, I play Zero Suit Samus or Ness. | ||
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On March 24 2018 08:05 n00bKing wrote: More fake or less fake than Slam's, in your opinion? More fake or less fake than rayn's, in your opinion? -_- Bad basis to read anyway. Rayn is always mad. | ||
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On March 24 2018 08:38 n00bKing wrote: Wrong. It's important to the game because it explains me continually treating Exo as Town (both throughout Day 1 and Night 1) without it meaning I have "TMI." The rationale behind me thinking that early post was town-indicative is relevant. How his exchange with rsoul made me upgrade him to even townier status is also relevant. It explains why during Night 1, I would encourage him to battle through his disappointment over the D1 mislynch, understand that we're expected to mislynch on D1, and keep working at the game. And why I chose him specifically to ask what he thought a town Vigilante should do, if there was one. I trusted HIM to provide an untainted, Town-motivated answer. As it turns out, I didn't like his suggestion of shooting disformation (because of the possibility of an actual mafia Veteran) so I explained that, in case there was a town Vigilante listening, who was waffling on what to do. But I at least trusted him to not try and lead the Vigilante astray in his answer. I certainly did not foresee that the player I was trusting to give untainted advice to the Vigilante might then be shot BY that Vigilante, as may have happened. (It's been mentioned already that a 4-man mafia team that contains a Vigilante could be fine for game balance, but I still have trouble explaining Exo as a kill target for that mafia Vigilante, which is why I am not worrying about mocsta yet for Day 2. If he's scum, he'll need to be caught later, imo) It loses its importance if you’re ignored for it. But it is what it is. | ||
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On March 24 2018 08:43 n00bKing wrote: Every town player should be stepping back to think about things from a mafia POV from time to time. That's how counterintelligence works. This is what makes me want to see more of you ☺️ | ||
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