EPTim really tempted to end this game now.
and moosy, you're a piece of shit. you really are.
k, im leaving my vote on Koshi
See you @ flip.
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im really tempted to end this game now. and moosy, you're a piece of shit. you really are. k, im leaving my vote on Koshi See you @ flip. | ||
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On March 27 2018 07:26 Tictock wrote: no, perhaps i phrased poorly.For the record Mocsta, this is why I keep tinfoiling you. You both say you are wavering on me and tell me I can stop playing for the rest of the phase if my vote is on Koshi. So both unsure and 100% sure I am town. my top 3 town reads are: coag, darthfoley, tictock I was merely commenting that posts like those are why I have had difficult stabilising a read on you. - Purely side commentary and does not change you are a NO-HOLDS BARRED town read this game. After sleeping on it, I really, REALLY dont like what rayn did the past 6 hours, not because he hasn't voted Koshi. But because I think is seeking to split votes. Im not really sure what this means for allignment though, as i can see some benefit to it . I merely just dont like it when 3 players have completely unpredictable vote (FF, Moosy, Coag). At this point, I just dont care anymore. Why invest time and effort in this game, when almost 50% of vote is completely uncontrolled. Thats why Moosy is a piece of shit. Of those 3, he is the only one posting to indicate a semblance of reading the thread. And still continues to troll. Anyways, /rant over. Hopefully that clarifies your point above. | ||
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On March 27 2018 07:16 darthfoley wrote: mafia is a team game for both alignments.If koshi is mafia, the game continues and My suspicion was correct If koshi is town, the game is over. Win win have correct suspicion, doesn't meet the game definition of winning. wasnt this already debated prior when damdred got lynched d1 with correct reads. you still need to convince people to lynch them - otherwise pointless. Thats why I will always have respect for marvellosity. There was this game he created a fake account years ago as fivetouch. as a complete nobody he got the entire town onside and lynched mafia day1. Very real crisis leadership. i dont think any of the players in this game could do that; many are relying on reputations due to "correct suspicions". The closest may actualy be Koshi, but for different reasons to fivetouch. Koshi as town *CAN* be very involving from what I have seen in 2018. Again, this is why he is scum this game. ciao. | ||
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Doesnt really matter, my line of conversion was side-commentary. | ||
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is this for real... | ||
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On March 27 2018 02:51 darthfoley wrote: uhhh I posted a case when everyone saw it. I was the first (or second, idk) person to look into Koshi as scum. Specifically, read these two posts: | ||
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On March 27 2018 13:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: that is not D1. no, you are right i am convinced and willing to listen. | ||
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Its really the 4th scum, right? | ||
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so your team is: disfo + palmar + DF + FF my team is: Disfo + palmar + FF + Koshi Fine, I will lynch Disfo, since thats a common element (or we could just lynch palmar  )##Unvote ##Vote: Disfo Now onto more important Do you have any posts on why Koshi specifically is town (and dont say by PoE with others). and to confirm one last time: you do not give RB claim any credence? Regarding DF and the poor scum reads criteria. Remember that HF tried to get me lynched Day1 and was woefully wrong. Like, i havent really read anything from DF so wont defend him other than he maintained activity Night2 (in a way that I think helped me + rsoultin) which I think was important. I dont see scum motivation for that, but can examine filter if needed. | ||
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On March 27 2018 13:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: did he. i havent re-read the discussion nor can i recall it.df helped you in getting onto wrong track and you think it makes him town? ok. i know the post you are talking about ksohi. its incoming in my filter dump about to be unveiled. | ||
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i dont agree he was trying to help he was much helpful in vendee to consolidate. i knwo because in both games i was part of what koshi was trying to band together. | ||
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On March 20 2018 23:23 Koshi wrote: Sticks by this read and tell heavily throughout Day1.[...] "Disfo scum for helping" On March 21 2018 17:41 Koshi wrote: Sick read on Ex0 who majority of thread read as town.The only thing you should expect is a letter from my lawyer demanding royalties. It is a good analogy though. If it is true and not about rsoultin which I suspect it is. Because I already said she was town. Exo is also town. Free read. No insight unlike NK or myself towards that sick town read. On March 21 2018 20:32 Koshi wrote: Sick prediction for mafia team. Not a scumtell in isolation, but written very much in confidence.5 mafia would be unbalanced unless town has 3 protection roles so I am assuming 4 mafia. If there are 5 mafia hosts fucked up. Or should asap change the amount of night kills. So if there are 5 mafia. Contact the hosts that their balance is potentially shit. Remember mafia has members/2 night kills rounded up. So 4 makes a lot of sense. Calix is probably smart. Note the only 2 players to speculate with this much confidence is Ksohi + Palmar On March 22 2018 03:40 Koshi wrote: LOL. sick read on NK & last paragraph almost written as matter of fact / tongue-in-cheek.I really dont want to lynch anybody xcept disformation. All others are ok. And the fact somebody like nk still has r votes on him and I feel like he could get more still is suspicious enough. Well nai for disformation but telling for nk being town. Mafia played lowkey and made decent posts most likely. On March 22 2018 04:20 Koshi wrote: Same, dig @ Vivax with matter of fact / tongue-in-cheek. Guess what, all town them except Koshi. FU vivax too !Impressive Vivax. That is somewhat my towncircle given some paranoia on rayn and mehish on HF. On March 22 2018 04:55 Koshi wrote: For someone that has been so cavalier all game, Koshi is now very explanatory with his unvote. SCUM TELLIf you are blue spill it out so I can vote somebody else. I am not lynching any blue claim till I am sure it is mafia. With the back up role I take it mafia doesn't care about losing roles anyway. On March 22 2018 08:13 Koshi wrote: Really shitting town post given this prior:You guys fucked up. RIP Rels. I take no responsibility. On March 22 2018 05:00 disformation wrote: yo koshi: regardless if you want to lynch me now or not: say I was not an option, who would be your #2, don't recall you having a second sr. On March 22 2018 05:14 Koshi wrote:Yeah I don't have one. So I will join the majority. Hmm. Veteran.. Pff. Maybe. I am afk and will ninjavote later. On March 23 2018 06:03 Koshi wrote: first mention of DF, who is then a scum read in his list post.I like this comment. You are in the null category atm but this is good. On March 23 2018 08:31 Koshi wrote: interesting position to take.TT, fefe, Palmar are good names here. Palmar only on d3 I think. rayn vs df is a really annoying riddle. I think df is mafia and rayn can be. Even together. [...] On March 23 2018 08:32 Tictock wrote: Odd Koshi knew there was gunna be 3 townies dead. Also feel weird he townreads me when I feel like I should probably be null at best for most people. Eh I guess it would be a pretty weird scum slip to announce how much KP they have, on the other hand this is Koshi... On March 23 2018 08:35 Koshi wrote: This is interesting quote. It could reinforce the town!RB, but Koshi never points this out as a crumb. So doesnt count now. Just like Mocsta I think we blocked 1 kp tbh. Mafia kp is 4/2=2 and I think they have either a vigi or strongarm. The balance seems fine this game. Further, the block on conversino doesnt really line up with his filter progression. yes, conversion is listed as scum; but hes definitely more interested in darthfoley. Now, rsoultin cannot target the same player twice as JK & KP across the 2 nights is indicative of mafia limited to 2-KP. Thus I find it very unlikely that she managed to block mafia from delivering KP 2 nights in row; more likely that she blocked a save on night 2, missed on night 1. Again, i think this points out to bullshit from koshi On March 23 2018 08:57 Koshi wrote: DF why is rayn not mafia? You not talking about him at all when the only interesting thing during the night was calling you mafia. If you are town. rayn did nothing. And his EoD was non existing as well. On March 23 2018 08:58 darthfoley wrote: I never said he wasn't mafia. Let me look through his eod On March 23 2018 09:01 Koshi wrote: To me, this progression is Koshi baiting DF to shit on Rayn and fan the fires.Exactly. You are not solving this game friend. One of the big players is playing underwhelming and calling you mafia and you dont bring his name up talking to us... His name should pop up way more in your posts. But it isnt. I wonder why. On March 23 2018 09:07 Koshi wrote: Very flipfloppy on Palmar... interesting, no?Well. I am not reading a lot of posts tbh. I'll read your filter later df. Hopefully what you say is true. Palmar seems like a friend to town. At least we think alike. I have like 6 names I could lynch today. At best there is 3 mafia in them. 1 mafia is probably within my townier people so that is why my townier people need to democratically vote within the 6. Highest chance to hit mafia. Dont only advocate for your own lynch. Think globally. On March 23 2018 19:14 Koshi wrote: Overly justified vote##vote n00bKing For somebody who put in effort you are not where the other people are who are putting in effort. You are not where rsoultin, Mocsta, Vivax or HF are. You made a post with 3 scumreads and I didnt feel excited about a single one. Mistakes were made yesterday. Rest of filter after claim doesnt matter. | ||
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interesting inconsistenies on rayn; but do they actualy push a scum agenda, or more gut-feelings? like. i get having a town circle is nice, but it seems we cant even agree on who the lynch pool is, considering you dont seem to want a disfo or palmar lynch as per above. i dont want a rayn or moosy lynch as the first scum wagon to fall. + coag is a complete coinflip too. i wont bother asking you for feedback on my koshi notes, given we both scum raed him. | ||
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On March 27 2018 14:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: I dont think this is a black or white answer.See that's funny, Koshi claims df isn't talking about me at all at that point (which is correct), df says he has been calling me scum even before (which is incorrect -- proven by the "let me look at his filter" thingy).  I standby "To me, this progression is Koshi baiting DF to shit on Rayn and fan the fires." Also note, HF was calling me mafia for yonks before it snowballed to a near lynch. At no point during that did I call him mafia, or acknowledge his case either. Like, just DF and you are "arguing" does not mean he has to think you are scum. My main concern was that DF seemed happy to argue with you vs. doing something else productive in accordance with his filter. Now, you might fill the gaps to come to the conclusion being productive = following scum read, ergo rayn is DF scum read. But that is precisely why this is fanning a burning fire. I wrote it explicitly = town Koshi wrote it vaguely = scummy to fill in blanks. | ||
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##Vote: Koshi tictock, looks like its just you + me | ||
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On March 27 2018 14:14 Tictock wrote: Sarcasm or no in some of the smaller posts... You clearly TR Koshi for very little reason all over your D1 and D2 filter, he keeps showing up as town in posts and in lists. I also literally found a townread of yours where you say "I am trusting Koshi here" You really want to argue this? the pre-flip associations going on in my head are: Koshi + Rayn is a team, given how try-hard and biased Rayn is playing to derail this. The problem then is Disfo is town as the counter-wagon. I dont believe Disfo is town due to 3 blues. If there realy was a vet, I would be expecting a strongman.. so why hasnt this been shot? No way rsoultin blocked it twice, cos she cant RB the same person 2 nights in a row. NK dont line up with a strongman. hence, fake claim. hence scum... i just dont see a world where koshi + rayn + disfo is scum. im still certain palmar is scum too in any combinatino (same with koshi) tictock, are my heuristics flawed; or do you see what im seeing? | ||
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every game, townies never know whom mafia is and as they solve the game, their reads will change. mafia can be much more consistent and adjust to game-state. like, everytime you say you dont like me; is precisely why im town. I dotn actually KNOW who scum is and its fuckn LYLO and fuckn the lurkers are not wagoning on Koshi.. so its arse-twitching. You are actually doing the same thing as me, so just shut up and accept im town ffs. dude. im not resistant to rayn or moosy, its more, in lylo with 4/4 scum players left, i want to hit the highest percentage chance. That is Koshi or Disformation or Palmar to a lesser extent. Everyone else is lower percentage, and honestly, not worth investing time in discussing. frankly, that has not been wishy-washy all cycle. | ||
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and i dont think its relevant to make a case on palmar. not, cos i dont want to for you. but because, whats the point? Hes not a primary lynch today, and I could do it @ night phase if we make it. whats wrong with 4 blues. i said it above. i expect it to be paired with a strongman... (which I know is a leap).. and to me, the Night Kills do not suggest mafia have addition KP. | ||
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im sorry to say this, but this feels like me taking to vivax all over again. | ||
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i wrote poorly about coag hes not a coin flip.. the seal makes him town. im saying COAG VOTE is a coinflip like to me, this whole game is a waste of time. so much effort for what? the deciding vote will always be COAG. my reads align with rsoultin. I thought you were aligned that way night2. as mentioned, my only care is whether we make it to night 3. Lynch highest % scum. that is koshi.. like what more is there to discuss.. other than rayn trying his hardest to derail this. | ||
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